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[2270.88 --> 2272.16] no, this is how it works. |
[2272.26 --> 2272.80] This is how it works, yeah. |
[2272.80 --> 2273.28] It's interesting. |
[2273.46 --> 2276.96] It's confusing for someone who isn't from there and didn't like grow up in the system. |
[2278.24 --> 2280.26] I think it's confusing for the people there too. |
[2280.90 --> 2281.42] Yes, it is. |
[2281.76 --> 2282.72] It really, really is. |
[2282.98 --> 2283.34] I agree. |
[2283.56 --> 2284.38] Google chat. |
[2285.32 --> 2285.76] Yeah. |
[2285.76 --> 2287.68] The original article here is from Tom's Guide. |
[2289.92 --> 2290.32] Wow. |
[2290.38 --> 2290.86] So, okay. |
[2291.10 --> 2296.28] You had a comment that all the – the Allo team was dissolved and brought over here, apparently. |
[2296.54 --> 2296.82] Yes. |
[2297.96 --> 2300.20] This is not the first time this has happened. |
[2300.40 --> 2301.84] Do you think this is the last time? |
[2302.80 --> 2308.22] Man, I don't know what to tell you because the article that I was reading about this |
[2308.22 --> 2314.96] basically had like a timeline of the whole experience of – |
[2314.96 --> 2320.44] of Google and chat applications going all the way back to I think Google Talk was the first one. |
[2320.52 --> 2325.36] So to give people a little bit of background, Google Chat is a newly proposed thing from Google. |
[2325.36 --> 2334.26] It is set to rival iMessage and displace SMS, which is probably the exact same lines that we've had with previous chat applications from Google. |
[2334.26 --> 2337.50] But they are taking a different approach this time. |
[2337.60 --> 2345.74] So to be clear, this is not Google Talk turning into GChat, turning into – oh, man, was it then integrated with Google Plus? |
[2346.14 --> 2347.68] And then turning into Hangouts? |
[2347.68 --> 2348.04] It was. |
[2348.52 --> 2349.26] And then – |
[2349.82 --> 2350.36] Allo. |
[2350.42 --> 2350.90] Allo. |
[2351.16 --> 2352.20] And the other one. |
[2352.20 --> 2353.30] Was there another one? |
[2353.36 --> 2354.08] What was the other one? |
[2354.48 --> 2360.88] They released like two – I remember last time the most confusing thing was that they released two at basically the same time and they were only marginally different. |
[2362.08 --> 2362.60] Yeah. |
[2363.18 --> 2365.28] It was Allo and like something else. |
[2365.44 --> 2368.90] I've had a hard time keeping track of exactly what's been going on. |
[2368.90 --> 2380.64] And yet like I just – I find the whole experience of both SMS and chat on Android very frustrating because the feature sets are divergent in like little stupid ways. |
[2380.90 --> 2389.54] So for example, the messages team, like, you know, just the default vanilla stock Android – I shouldn't say vanilla because that might be an Android at some point. |
[2389.54 --> 2401.32] Like the stock Android messages app is like so back-ass words in some ways where like it doesn't have cloud backup. |
[2401.54 --> 2402.70] And I'm kind of sitting here going, what? |
[2402.70 --> 2405.12] What if that's a way to get around YouTube demonetization, saying it that way? |
[2405.90 --> 2406.60] Bass-ackwards? |
[2407.16 --> 2407.62] Yeah. |
[2407.74 --> 2408.00] I don't know. |
[2408.10 --> 2408.38] Probably. |
[2409.44 --> 2411.12] So it's like it's so backwards. |
[2411.24 --> 2418.52] It doesn't even have cloud backup, which just blows me away that that's not completely automatic when I switch from one Android phone to another one. |
[2418.52 --> 2420.02] All my SMS messages are gone. |
[2420.76 --> 2434.10] But that team apparently still exists because it must have – I don't think it was that long ago that they looked at how, well, a lot of people are busy using Facebook Messenger because SMS is sort of trash by today's standards. |
[2435.12 --> 2438.22] And basically the only thing they're using SMS for is verification codes. |
[2438.42 --> 2443.98] So when you get your notification for messages, it has mark as red, which is like awesome. |
[2444.66 --> 2445.98] So you never have to touch it again. |
[2446.06 --> 2447.90] You don't have to click through it to mark it as red. |
[2447.90 --> 2451.00] You don't have to – if you swipe it away, it doesn't stay unread. |
[2452.30 --> 2452.74] Awesome. |
[2453.66 --> 2454.60] That is pretty great. |
[2454.82 --> 2456.00] Hangouts doesn't have that. |
[2456.70 --> 2457.96] Gmail doesn't have that. |
[2458.64 --> 2464.52] And pretty much – I mean pretty much any app now is just notification spam as far as I can tell. |
[2464.98 --> 2470.90] And so the ability to mark a notification as red when it comes in without actually opening the notification. |
[2470.90 --> 2472.84] Very nice. |
[2472.84 --> 2476.04] If I can – the more I can do in the notification tray, the better. |
[2476.28 --> 2476.42] Yes. |
[2476.42 --> 2480.72] Because if I can just do everything I need to without even opening anything, that's fantastic. |
[2481.94 --> 2486.16] Also, the app I was thinking of was Duo, which was their video chat thing. |
[2486.16 --> 2490.38] So they launched Allo and Duo at pretty much the same time, and they were both for communicating. |
[2490.62 --> 2490.72] Yeah. |
[2491.70 --> 2492.14] Okay. |
[2492.24 --> 2502.30] But this is not – this is not like a new app that's just another Hangouts or Allo replacement or whatever the case may be. |
[2502.36 --> 2504.28] This is more of a back-end upgrade. |
[2504.52 --> 2504.70] Yeah. |
[2504.70 --> 2504.74] Yeah. |
[2505.98 --> 2508.22] So they're calling it – |
[2508.22 --> 2508.66] Rich communication services. |
[2508.96 --> 2509.64] What is this? |
[2509.66 --> 2509.78] Yeah. |
[2509.84 --> 2511.34] Rich communication services. |
[2512.14 --> 2514.92] So unlike SMS, it'll support video. |
[2515.78 --> 2517.18] It'll have red receipts. |
[2517.84 --> 2519.64] It'll support higher res images. |
[2520.30 --> 2523.22] And the mobile networks will have to opt in. |
[2523.48 --> 2526.22] But the idea is that – |
[2528.22 --> 2531.68] And you know, it's a funny thing to me. |
[2531.94 --> 2533.96] Why do people even care about iMessage that much? |
[2535.26 --> 2535.94] iMessage is great. |
[2535.98 --> 2536.50] What are you talking about? |
[2536.64 --> 2537.26] What's great about it? |
[2537.44 --> 2537.70] I don't know. |
[2537.78 --> 2538.66] It just feels nice. |
[2539.26 --> 2539.92] It goes quick. |
[2540.00 --> 2541.96] You can tell what phone they have, which is cool. |
[2542.90 --> 2543.28] I don't know. |
[2543.40 --> 2545.12] Every time I've had an iPhone, I liked iMessage. |
[2545.92 --> 2546.22] Right. |
[2546.32 --> 2550.18] But did it really make a difference to you one way or the other if the bubble was blue or green? |
[2550.38 --> 2552.60] I mean, SMS sucks, as you know. |
[2553.10 --> 2555.22] How much better really is Facebook chat? |
[2555.38 --> 2556.04] It's not. |
[2556.04 --> 2556.56] It's not. |
[2556.68 --> 2558.42] The only reason I use Facebook chat is for people – |
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