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[2558.42 --> 2559.96] So iMessage is great because it's fine. |
[2560.12 --> 2562.22] Yeah, but Facebook chat has a built-in phone book. |
[2562.44 --> 2562.80] I don't – |
[2562.80 --> 2564.44] That's what's useful about Facebook chat. |
[2565.70 --> 2565.98] Eh. |
[2566.10 --> 2567.22] I don't have everyone on Facebook. |
[2567.58 --> 2570.08] Right, but if you wanted to find someone, that's the point of a phone book. |
[2570.14 --> 2570.92] Not an address book. |
[2570.92 --> 2573.96] Yeah, but I don't want to add Facebook to having access to all my stuff, though. |
[2574.32 --> 2574.90] You don't have to. |
[2575.10 --> 2577.68] You just search Facebook for a person. |
[2577.94 --> 2579.24] And you're like, oh, right, that person. |
[2579.32 --> 2580.04] And you contact them. |
[2580.04 --> 2580.84] Oh. |
[2580.84 --> 2581.92] Like, that's what I mean by a phone book. |
[2581.98 --> 2582.70] Not an address book. |
[2583.70 --> 2584.02] Okay. |
[2584.22 --> 2585.32] Like a directory. |
[2585.82 --> 2586.06] Right. |
[2586.06 --> 2589.88] So that's the only reason I give any Fs whatsoever about Facebook Messenger. |
[2589.88 --> 2591.38] Who do you contact that way on Facebook? |
[2591.52 --> 2591.74] I don't know. |
[2591.78 --> 2596.04] Like, people that I, like, met at badminton once and, like, want to play with again sometime, |
[2596.26 --> 2597.84] but I didn't exchange phone numbers with them. |
[2598.66 --> 2598.98] Wow. |
[2598.98 --> 2599.78] But I remember their name. |
[2599.92 --> 2603.74] Because it'll come up automatically because they'll be friends with a bunch of other badminton people. |
[2604.00 --> 2604.34] Okay. |
[2604.52 --> 2609.16] So it'll know, like, if I'm searching for Andy, it'll be like, oh, yeah, probably this Andy, |
[2609.26 --> 2610.60] even though you don't have him in your contacts. |
[2610.94 --> 2612.06] I've never used that. |
[2612.14 --> 2612.32] Yeah. |
[2612.32 --> 2612.46] Okay. |
[2612.46 --> 2613.60] It's, like, super useful. |
[2613.60 --> 2615.20] Or, like, if there was someone that you... |
[2615.20 --> 2616.06] I don't go outside, so... |
[2616.06 --> 2618.46] You ran into at a LAN party or something. |
[2619.20 --> 2620.08] It might know from... |
[2620.08 --> 2621.46] LAN parties aren't cool anymore. |
[2621.56 --> 2621.84] I know. |
[2622.12 --> 2622.26] I know. |
[2622.26 --> 2622.90] I wish they were. |
[2623.20 --> 2624.22] I would love that. |
[2624.22 --> 2631.58] So it might know from their association with other gamers that that's the, you know, Tom Smith that you were most likely to be looking for. |
[2631.64 --> 2632.24] So it's just... |
[2632.24 --> 2633.58] That's why I use that. |
[2633.66 --> 2635.02] That's the only reason I care about that. |
[2635.42 --> 2638.76] iMessage, other than Animojis, which is a completely artificial lockdown. |
[2638.92 --> 2639.44] Thank you, Apple. |
[2639.74 --> 2644.24] There's no reason why you couldn't send Animojis as a video clip in Hangouts, for example, other than that. |
[2644.24 --> 2645.06] They just don't want you to. |
[2646.12 --> 2647.14] I don't really get it. |
[2647.74 --> 2648.76] What's so amazing about it? |
[2649.06 --> 2651.38] Maybe people are telling me in Twitch chat what's so amazing about it. |
[2651.40 --> 2651.68] There's really... |
[2651.68 --> 2652.70] There isn't much else, though. |
[2653.00 --> 2653.68] Group messages. |
[2654.78 --> 2656.96] On iMessage and WhatsApp are much better than SMS. |
[2657.12 --> 2659.34] Okay, that's fine, but WhatsApp has that. |
[2659.40 --> 2660.98] And you can do that on Facebook Messenger. |
[2662.70 --> 2663.86] iMessage is end-to-end encrypted. |
[2664.04 --> 2665.04] SMS is open to snooping. |
[2665.46 --> 2668.16] iMessage is much less creepy than Facebook. |
[2668.16 --> 2674.92] So if you care about that, then you can be using a third-party messaging service in general. |
[2675.12 --> 2681.00] Because iMessage is just automatically turned on and turned off, depending on what kind of phone the other person has. |
[2681.00 --> 2681.64] So it's like... |
[2681.64 --> 2686.18] It's like only sometimes running your VPN when you talk to some people. |
[2686.38 --> 2687.74] So I don't really get that either. |
[2688.74 --> 2689.92] Why don't you use Discord? |
[2690.56 --> 2691.76] We're talking about privacy stuff. |
[2691.76 --> 2693.46] I can text on my computer with it, too. |
[2693.46 --> 2694.78] Okay, yes. |
[2694.94 --> 2696.48] Integration with the desktop experience. |
[2696.48 --> 2697.04] That's pretty cool. |
[2697.04 --> 2697.64] That is a good one. |
[2699.44 --> 2700.94] Facebook Messenger, same thing. |
[2701.08 --> 2702.08] WhatsApp, same thing. |
[2702.60 --> 2703.64] Hangout, same thing. |
[2703.64 --> 2706.44] People are like, it just works. |
[2707.16 --> 2708.24] It kind of does, though. |
[2708.24 --> 2710.08] Yeah, it kind of does, but like... |
[2710.08 --> 2713.52] And I know it's a funny tagline, but it kind of does just sort of work. |
[2714.32 --> 2718.50] It just sort of works the way you would expect SMS to, but it doesn't. |
[2718.56 --> 2719.06] You know what I mean? |
[2719.74 --> 2731.04] So then in a nutshell, chat is like a back-end upgrade to SMS that other messaging apps, this is cool, like Samsung's messaging app, will support. |
[2733.46 --> 2737.28] Google actually has a fair number of partners signed on for this thing. |
[2737.58 --> 2740.82] So, like, I mean, I guess I'm excited, and that's cool. |
[2740.82 --> 2746.00] But I just, yeah, I guess that's cool. |
[2748.54 --> 2749.12] I don't know. |
[2749.20 --> 2753.70] I just, I don't feel like iMessage needed to be something that had to be competed with. |
[2754.22 --> 2755.14] But apparently it does. |
[2755.42 --> 2755.58] I do. |
[2755.82 --> 2765.42] And I guess maybe what I'm forgetting is that a lot of people, like when I message my mom, she doesn't have WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger even or anything. |
[2765.96 --> 2768.22] Like, to her, text message is text message. |
[2768.22 --> 2776.80] And so if this upgrades the text message experience that normies are probably just using by default because they don't know anything else, then I guess that's good. |
[2777.30 --> 2786.54] But even then, we're still not going to have perfect coverage because we're going to be relying on iOS to Android and vice versa to kind of translate to each other. |
[2786.62 --> 2788.82] But maybe Apple and Google will find a way to cooperate on that. |
[2788.86 --> 2789.28] I'm not sure. |
[2789.34 --> 2796.76] I haven't looked into it carefully enough to know if that's, oh, no, yeah, right here in Tom's article, there's no clue as to whether or not Apple will support chat. |
[2796.76 --> 2798.94] So, there you go. |
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