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[2710.60 --> 2711.50] Your riddle was bad.
[2711.64 --> 2711.92] Yeah.
[2712.66 --> 2713.70] No I agree with that.
[2713.78 --> 2713.90] No.
[2714.04 --> 2715.34] So I don't even feel bad about that one.
[2715.38 --> 2715.98] But that's it.
[2716.06 --> 2719.66] Like everything else I have figured out on my own for better or for worse.
[2719.72 --> 2721.20] So it has taken a very long time.
[2721.26 --> 2722.44] And then sometimes I'll drop in.
[2722.72 --> 2724.84] I'll spend an entire flight just accomplishing nothing.
[2724.84 --> 2728.16] Just like going around and finding Korok seeds and crap like that.
[2728.24 --> 2730.76] So it's been like my brain off travel mode thing.
[2730.90 --> 2731.96] I only play on flights.
[2732.32 --> 2734.14] And yeah pretty much only flights actually.
[2734.20 --> 2735.66] I almost never play when I'm actually there.
[2735.84 --> 2739.84] But so when the game first came out I got a good amount of time on it.
[2740.00 --> 2740.16] Yeah.
[2740.28 --> 2742.26] And then almost immediately it was like nope.
[2742.40 --> 2743.86] I have traveled so much this year.
[2744.04 --> 2744.20] Yeah.
[2744.56 --> 2745.44] It's been stupid.
[2746.70 --> 2747.10] Anyway.
[2749.14 --> 2751.26] Speaking of which if you're at IEM Chicago say hi.
[2751.26 --> 2756.22] Trusted Reviews pays a million pounds after Red Dead Redemption 2 leaks.
[2756.30 --> 2761.00] So this is where I need to plead ignorance and say look.
[2761.10 --> 2763.50] We're going to walk through what we have in our notes.
[2763.94 --> 2766.28] And I'm going to tell you my knee jerk reaction.
[2766.46 --> 2767.12] And it might be wrong.
[2767.30 --> 2767.42] Okay.
[2768.22 --> 2772.28] Trusted Reviews has pulled an article published in February 2018.
[2772.28 --> 2774.80] That was earlier this year.
[2775.24 --> 2779.10] That revealed unannounced gameplay details about Red Dead Redemption 2.
[2779.10 --> 2786.26] And they have donated a one million pound settlement fee to charities of Rockstar's choice.
[2787.34 --> 2791.92] At the time the website said it received the documents in August 2017.
[2792.56 --> 2796.40] But decided not to share them as they were unsubstantiated.
[2796.86 --> 2801.68] However in February 2018 after the information was validated by official promotional material.
[2802.32 --> 2806.32] Trusted Reviews went ahead with the story stating it had contacted Rockstar for comment.
[2806.32 --> 2806.76] Okay.
[2807.96 --> 2810.98] The link to the article has now been replaced by an apology.
[2811.50 --> 2814.82] We published an article that was sourced from a confidential corporate document.
[2815.30 --> 2818.80] We should have known this information was confidential and should not have published it.
[2819.38 --> 2822.10] We unreservedly apologized to Take Two Games.
[2822.20 --> 2825.08] And we have undertaken not to repeat such actions again.
[2825.52 --> 2829.86] We have also agreed to donate over a million pounds to charities chosen by Take Two Games.
[2832.30 --> 2832.78] What?
[2832.78 --> 2835.74] Am I missing something here?
[2835.90 --> 2836.86] I'm really lost.
[2837.18 --> 2842.32] Because if they had illegally obtained the documents, which they haven't said that they did.
[2842.76 --> 2849.12] And in fact, it's not in our notes, but I believe they said that they were provided by an anonymous source for free.
[2849.92 --> 2856.60] Which is how sourcing for rumor mill stories happens.
[2856.60 --> 2861.78] What exactly is going on here?
[2863.92 --> 2866.08] So, yeah.
[2866.32 --> 2867.42] Twitch chat?
[2867.76 --> 2869.00] Why don't we talk to Twitch chat?
[2871.06 --> 2873.36] Everyone else seems to be confused.
[2875.00 --> 2875.60] I, like...
[2877.20 --> 2878.36] And, yeah, yeah.
[2878.48 --> 2881.88] So, what did you call a cat or whatever your name is?
[2881.90 --> 2882.32] I don't know.
[2882.58 --> 2883.82] I think you're a Prime subscriber.
[2884.00 --> 2884.42] So, cool.
[2884.50 --> 2884.88] That's neat.
[2884.88 --> 2888.94] Um, if someone leaked a confidential document, that's on them, not the reporter.
[2889.10 --> 2889.34] Yes.
[2890.04 --> 2896.24] As far as I'm aware, it works the same way in the UK, which is where this whole thing took place, as it does here.
[2896.66 --> 2906.64] Where, if you don't have an NDA, and you don't have any other kind of confidentiality agreement or legal obligation,
[2906.64 --> 2910.16] it's completely not your problem.
[2910.16 --> 2915.34] So, like, did they have some partnership agreement of some kind or something?
[2916.76 --> 2920.12] Like, there must be something else going on that we don't know.
[2920.12 --> 2929.32] Yeah, because if they, like, if they stole the documents, like, if reporters from, uh...
[2929.32 --> 2929.82] Oh, shoot.
[2929.90 --> 2930.48] Who was it again?
[2930.64 --> 2930.84] I'm...
[2930.84 --> 2931.48] Trusted Reviews.
[2931.48 --> 2931.70] Yeah.
[2931.80 --> 2946.92] If reporters from Trusted Reviews, like, literally donned ninja outfits and snuck into the Red Dead Redemption 2, like, development studio and stole documents, that's illegal.
[2946.92 --> 2954.72] If somebody else stole the documents and provided them without them buying stolen goods, you don't want to pay for stolen goods, okay?
[2955.04 --> 2964.06] But if someone just provided them free of charge, to my knowledge, that's not illegal for Trusted Reviews.
[2965.02 --> 2965.52] Um...
[2965.52 --> 2970.06] So, I am not getting anyone...
[2971.60 --> 2973.24] Yeah, see, this is another thing.
[2973.24 --> 2977.70] Rubien says, I'm more surprised that Trusted Reviews has a million pounds to donate.
[2978.14 --> 2980.82] I've been trying to figure out who they are.
[2980.84 --> 2983.62] Yeah, Trusted Reviews is owned by, um...
[2983.62 --> 2988.50] Crap, I can't remember, but I was doing a little bit of research into this before the show, actually.
[2988.84 --> 2989.18] Wow.
[2989.38 --> 2993.84] It does happen from time to time, because I was just like, what is going on right now?
[2994.00 --> 2995.74] I do not understand this.
[2995.74 --> 2997.74] Um...
[2997.74 --> 2998.96] I just...
[2998.96 --> 2999.30] What?
[3002.98 --> 3008.16] If it was confidential, there could have been something in their terms of service, um...
[3008.16 --> 3008.60] Putting...
[3008.60 --> 3010.38] Making them liable if it wasn't for their eyes.
[3010.52 --> 3011.96] Yeah, but that's not enforceable.
[3012.20 --> 3018.58] Like, I remember having this argument with Luke, where I was like, look, on all of our email signatures, we need to have that confidentiality for your eyes only.
[3018.66 --> 3020.86] If you are the unintended recipient, please delete this.
[3020.88 --> 3022.62] And he's like, those are completely unenforceable.
[3022.68 --> 3023.14] This is stupid.
[3023.20 --> 3024.06] And I'm like, look, I don't care.

[2710.60 --> 2711.50] Your riddle was bad.

[2711.64 --> 2711.92] Yeah.

[2712.66 --> 2713.70] No I agree with that.

[2713.78 --> 2713.90] No.

[2714.04 --> 2715.34] So I don't even feel bad about that one.

[2715.38 --> 2715.98] But that's it.

[2716.06 --> 2719.66] Like everything else I have figured out on my own for better or for worse.

[2719.72 --> 2721.20] So it has taken a very long time.

[2721.26 --> 2722.44] And then sometimes I'll drop in.

[2722.72 --> 2724.84] I'll spend an entire flight just accomplishing nothing.

[2724.84 --> 2728.16] Just like going around and finding Korok seeds and crap like that.

[2728.24 --> 2730.76] So it's been like my brain off travel mode thing.

[2730.90 --> 2731.96] I only play on flights.

[2732.32 --> 2734.14] And yeah pretty much only flights actually.

[2734.20 --> 2735.66] I almost never play when I'm actually there.

[2735.84 --> 2739.84] But so when the game first came out I got a good amount of time on it.

[2740.00 --> 2740.16] Yeah.

[2740.28 --> 2742.26] And then almost immediately it was like nope.

[2742.40 --> 2743.86] I have traveled so much this year.

[2744.04 --> 2744.20] Yeah.

[2744.56 --> 2745.44] It's been stupid.

[2746.70 --> 2747.10] Anyway.

[2749.14 --> 2751.26] Speaking of which if you're at IEM Chicago say hi.

[2751.26 --> 2756.22] Trusted Reviews pays a million pounds after Red Dead Redemption 2 leaks.

[2756.30 --> 2761.00] So this is where I need to plead ignorance and say look.

[2761.10 --> 2763.50] We're going to walk through what we have in our notes.

[2763.94 --> 2766.28] And I'm going to tell you my knee jerk reaction.

[2766.46 --> 2767.12] And it might be wrong.

[2767.30 --> 2767.42] Okay.

[2768.22 --> 2772.28] Trusted Reviews has pulled an article published in February 2018.

[2772.28 --> 2774.80] That was earlier this year.

[2775.24 --> 2779.10] That revealed unannounced gameplay details about Red Dead Redemption 2.

[2779.10 --> 2786.26] And they have donated a one million pound settlement fee to charities of Rockstar's choice.

[2787.34 --> 2791.92] At the time the website said it received the documents in August 2017.

[2792.56 --> 2796.40] But decided not to share them as they were unsubstantiated.

[2796.86 --> 2801.68] However in February 2018 after the information was validated by official promotional material.

[2802.32 --> 2806.32] Trusted Reviews went ahead with the story stating it had contacted Rockstar for comment.

[2806.32 --> 2806.76] Okay.

[2807.96 --> 2810.98] The link to the article has now been replaced by an apology.

[2811.50 --> 2814.82] We published an article that was sourced from a confidential corporate document.

[2815.30 --> 2818.80] We should have known this information was confidential and should not have published it.

[2819.38 --> 2822.10] We unreservedly apologized to Take Two Games.

[2822.20 --> 2825.08] And we have undertaken not to repeat such actions again.

[2825.52 --> 2829.86] We have also agreed to donate over a million pounds to charities chosen by Take Two Games.

[2832.30 --> 2832.78] What?

[2832.78 --> 2835.74] Am I missing something here?

[2835.90 --> 2836.86] I'm really lost.

[2837.18 --> 2842.32] Because if they had illegally obtained the documents, which they haven't said that they did.

[2842.76 --> 2849.12] And in fact, it's not in our notes, but I believe they said that they were provided by an anonymous source for free.

[2849.92 --> 2856.60] Which is how sourcing for rumor mill stories happens.

[2856.60 --> 2861.78] What exactly is going on here?

[2863.92 --> 2866.08] So, yeah.

[2866.32 --> 2867.42] Twitch chat?

[2867.76 --> 2869.00] Why don't we talk to Twitch chat?

[2871.06 --> 2873.36] Everyone else seems to be confused.

[2875.00 --> 2875.60] I, like...

[2877.20 --> 2878.36] And, yeah, yeah.

[2878.48 --> 2881.88] So, what did you call a cat or whatever your name is?

[2881.90 --> 2882.32] I don't know.

[2882.58 --> 2883.82] I think you're a Prime subscriber.

[2884.00 --> 2884.42] So, cool.

[2884.50 --> 2884.88] That's neat.

[2884.88 --> 2888.94] Um, if someone leaked a confidential document, that's on them, not the reporter.

[2889.10 --> 2889.34] Yes.

[2890.04 --> 2896.24] As far as I'm aware, it works the same way in the UK, which is where this whole thing took place, as it does here.

[2896.66 --> 2906.64] Where, if you don't have an NDA, and you don't have any other kind of confidentiality agreement or legal obligation,

[2906.64 --> 2910.16] it's completely not your problem.

[2910.16 --> 2915.34] So, like, did they have some partnership agreement of some kind or something?

[2916.76 --> 2920.12] Like, there must be something else going on that we don't know.

[2920.12 --> 2929.32] Yeah, because if they, like, if they stole the documents, like, if reporters from, uh...

[2929.32 --> 2929.82] Oh, shoot.

[2929.90 --> 2930.48] Who was it again?

[2930.64 --> 2930.84] I'm...

[2930.84 --> 2931.48] Trusted Reviews.

[2931.48 --> 2931.70] Yeah.

[2931.80 --> 2946.92] If reporters from Trusted Reviews, like, literally donned ninja outfits and snuck into the Red Dead Redemption 2, like, development studio and stole documents, that's illegal.

[2946.92 --> 2954.72] If somebody else stole the documents and provided them without them buying stolen goods, you don't want to pay for stolen goods, okay?

[2955.04 --> 2964.06] But if someone just provided them free of charge, to my knowledge, that's not illegal for Trusted Reviews.

[2965.02 --> 2965.52] Um...

[2965.52 --> 2970.06] So, I am not getting anyone...

[2971.60 --> 2973.24] Yeah, see, this is another thing.

[2973.24 --> 2977.70] Rubien says, I'm more surprised that Trusted Reviews has a million pounds to donate.

[2978.14 --> 2980.82] I've been trying to figure out who they are.

[2980.84 --> 2983.62] Yeah, Trusted Reviews is owned by, um...

[2983.62 --> 2988.50] Crap, I can't remember, but I was doing a little bit of research into this before the show, actually.

[2988.84 --> 2989.18] Wow.

[2989.38 --> 2993.84] It does happen from time to time, because I was just like, what is going on right now?

[2994.00 --> 2995.74] I do not understand this.

[2995.74 --> 2997.74] Um...

[2997.74 --> 2998.96] I just...

[2998.96 --> 2999.30] What?

[3002.98 --> 3008.16] If it was confidential, there could have been something in their terms of service, um...

[3008.16 --> 3008.60] Putting...

[3008.60 --> 3010.38] Making them liable if it wasn't for their eyes.

[3010.52 --> 3011.96] Yeah, but that's not enforceable.

[3012.20 --> 3018.58] Like, I remember having this argument with Luke, where I was like, look, on all of our email signatures, we need to have that confidentiality for your eyes only.

[3018.66 --> 3020.86] If you are the unintended recipient, please delete this.

[3020.88 --> 3022.62] And he's like, those are completely unenforceable.

[3022.68 --> 3023.14] This is stupid.

[3023.20 --> 3024.06] And I'm like, look, I don't care.