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[515.12 --> 516.06] Gotta have my tabs.
[516.10 --> 516.68] Work computer.
[517.56 --> 520.20] Like partway through the week, I just was maxed out.
[521.44 --> 524.52] I was trying to figure out like why pages weren't really loading properly and stuff.
[524.56 --> 525.22] And I was like, what the heck?
[525.46 --> 528.08] Open task manager, a hundred percent of physical memory used.
[528.44 --> 531.62] I was like, I only have browser tabs open.
[531.88 --> 532.96] That's the only thing I'm doing.
[532.96 --> 534.76] And because it's Chrome, that's like 17.
[534.76 --> 535.24] Yeah.
[535.24 --> 535.92] It was wild.
[535.92 --> 538.14] It was wild.
[538.76 --> 539.50] All right.
[539.62 --> 546.22] So speaking of Google and their infinite wisdom, this first tech here, this first topic here
[546.22 --> 549.72] was posted by Aluminium Tech on the forum.
[549.88 --> 550.08] Yeah.
[550.08 --> 552.44] And the original article here is from The Verge.
[552.48 --> 554.80] Let's go ahead and pop that up.
[554.86 --> 555.14] Google.
[555.94 --> 562.00] To start charging Android device makers a fee for using its apps in Europe.
[562.00 --> 566.02] And then Android will still be free and open source.
[566.66 --> 567.26] So that's...
[567.26 --> 569.18] So the operating system will be, but not the apps.
[569.32 --> 569.46] That's good.
[570.00 --> 572.34] So they want people to make their own apps?
[572.40 --> 577.44] So basically they're changing the way that they license their suite of Android apps in
[577.44 --> 582.80] Europe, leading the company to charge a licensing fee for the Play Store and other Google apps
[582.80 --> 584.42] for the first time.
[584.44 --> 585.14] Play Store.
[585.24 --> 585.98] For the Play Store.
[586.50 --> 590.08] So in the past, I actually...
[590.08 --> 594.46] You know, this is something that I wish I had kind of looked into before the show,
[594.46 --> 601.82] because I remember going back like six, seven years ago, you could get Android devices that
[601.82 --> 603.06] didn't have the Play Store.
[603.20 --> 604.94] Like it'd be like weird knockoff ones.
[605.06 --> 606.46] Remember that super terrible...
[606.98 --> 607.28] Yeah.
[607.62 --> 607.84] Yeah.
[607.92 --> 609.00] That didn't have the Play Store.
[609.12 --> 609.84] What's that stupid thing called?
[609.90 --> 610.44] Neptune Pine.
[610.56 --> 610.96] Neptune Pine.
[610.96 --> 615.06] I had to like do a bunch of crap to it to like force the Play Store on you.
[615.06 --> 618.72] And then I remember back at NCIX, one of the other product managers brought in this
[618.72 --> 623.00] like, I don't remember, whatever the price point was, it was like unheard of at the
[623.00 --> 626.08] time, like $150 tablet or something stupid like that.
[626.64 --> 628.98] And it didn't have the Play Store.
[629.10 --> 631.74] And I like, I picked it up and I kind of went, wow.
[632.38 --> 635.94] I mean, at that time, I think it was called the, what'd they call it?
[635.98 --> 637.62] Market, Android Market?
[637.92 --> 638.74] Something like that.
[638.74 --> 638.92] Marketplace?
[639.18 --> 639.20] Marketplace?
[639.20 --> 639.34] Yeah.
[639.44 --> 639.72] Anyway.
[639.92 --> 640.26] I don't know.
[640.72 --> 641.90] Anyway, it didn't have it.
[641.96 --> 643.44] And I kind of had this realization.
[643.58 --> 647.16] I was like, wow, without apps, this is really stupid.
[647.52 --> 648.90] It doesn't really do anything.
[648.90 --> 653.50] And you could install it, but I think it might've involved rooting it or something ridiculous
[653.50 --> 653.96] like that.
[653.98 --> 655.24] It's a pretty annoying process.
[655.38 --> 655.56] Anyway.
[655.62 --> 656.46] It's not very user-friendly.
[656.78 --> 657.60] It's a dumb process.
[657.96 --> 660.98] And so that whole thing kind of went away.
[661.20 --> 666.14] And I'm sure Twitch chat or YouTube chat is like flipping out about, you know, me not
[666.14 --> 667.00] knowing exactly.
[667.24 --> 668.82] It was Android Market or something like that.
[668.88 --> 670.60] I think you were pretty, pretty accurate on that one.
[670.64 --> 672.16] Oh, I was, I was on the phone with Google.
[672.28 --> 673.54] Someone, who is this?
[673.86 --> 675.92] The birdie T says, you were on the phone with Google.
[676.02 --> 677.20] Finish a story for once.
[677.20 --> 677.96] Come on.
[678.48 --> 679.44] I was on the phone with Google.
[679.52 --> 682.16] The first thing I said was thank you very much for going down last week.
[682.28 --> 682.98] It was hilarious.
[683.54 --> 686.18] And also, yay, float plane.
[687.56 --> 688.38] Float plane for life.
[688.98 --> 689.38] Okay.
[689.84 --> 689.98] So.
[690.16 --> 691.32] So yeah, it was called Android Market.
[691.60 --> 692.08] Android Market.
[692.20 --> 692.40] Yes.
[693.16 --> 694.44] I said Marketplace didn't.
[694.54 --> 695.28] I shouldn't have hedged my bets.
[695.32 --> 695.88] I think you said both.
[696.10 --> 696.50] That's okay.
[697.44 --> 698.04] All right.
[698.84 --> 703.14] So basically the changes came in response to a July ruling by the European Commission,
[703.14 --> 709.44] which fined the company $5 billion for antitrust violations in order to stop illegally tying
[709.44 --> 711.66] Chrome and search to Android.
[711.80 --> 712.30] Super chats.
[713.00 --> 715.20] You have got to be kidding me.
[717.36 --> 717.78] That.
[718.50 --> 720.10] He's actually doing it.
[720.10 --> 721.02] He's actually doing it.
[721.42 --> 725.10] See, little does he know that he's screwing himself.

[515.12 --> 516.06] Gotta have my tabs.

[516.10 --> 516.68] Work computer.

[517.56 --> 520.20] Like partway through the week, I just was maxed out.

[521.44 --> 524.52] I was trying to figure out like why pages weren't really loading properly and stuff.

[524.56 --> 525.22] And I was like, what the heck?

[525.46 --> 528.08] Open task manager, a hundred percent of physical memory used.

[528.44 --> 531.62] I was like, I only have browser tabs open.

[531.88 --> 532.96] That's the only thing I'm doing.

[532.96 --> 534.76] And because it's Chrome, that's like 17.

[534.76 --> 535.24] Yeah.

[535.24 --> 535.92] It was wild.

[535.92 --> 538.14] It was wild.

[538.76 --> 539.50] All right.

[539.62 --> 546.22] So speaking of Google and their infinite wisdom, this first tech here, this first topic here

[546.22 --> 549.72] was posted by Aluminium Tech on the forum.

[549.88 --> 550.08] Yeah.

[550.08 --> 552.44] And the original article here is from The Verge.

[552.48 --> 554.80] Let's go ahead and pop that up.

[554.86 --> 555.14] Google.

[555.94 --> 562.00] To start charging Android device makers a fee for using its apps in Europe.

[562.00 --> 566.02] And then Android will still be free and open source.

[566.66 --> 567.26] So that's...

[567.26 --> 569.18] So the operating system will be, but not the apps.

[569.32 --> 569.46] That's good.

[570.00 --> 572.34] So they want people to make their own apps?

[572.40 --> 577.44] So basically they're changing the way that they license their suite of Android apps in

[577.44 --> 582.80] Europe, leading the company to charge a licensing fee for the Play Store and other Google apps

[582.80 --> 584.42] for the first time.

[584.44 --> 585.14] Play Store.

[585.24 --> 585.98] For the Play Store.

[586.50 --> 590.08] So in the past, I actually...

[590.08 --> 594.46] You know, this is something that I wish I had kind of looked into before the show,

[594.46 --> 601.82] because I remember going back like six, seven years ago, you could get Android devices that

[601.82 --> 603.06] didn't have the Play Store.

[603.20 --> 604.94] Like it'd be like weird knockoff ones.

[605.06 --> 606.46] Remember that super terrible...

[606.98 --> 607.28] Yeah.

[607.62 --> 607.84] Yeah.

[607.92 --> 609.00] That didn't have the Play Store.

[609.12 --> 609.84] What's that stupid thing called?

[609.90 --> 610.44] Neptune Pine.

[610.56 --> 610.96] Neptune Pine.

[610.96 --> 615.06] I had to like do a bunch of crap to it to like force the Play Store on you.

[615.06 --> 618.72] And then I remember back at NCIX, one of the other product managers brought in this

[618.72 --> 623.00] like, I don't remember, whatever the price point was, it was like unheard of at the

[623.00 --> 626.08] time, like $150 tablet or something stupid like that.

[626.64 --> 628.98] And it didn't have the Play Store.

[629.10 --> 631.74] And I like, I picked it up and I kind of went, wow.

[632.38 --> 635.94] I mean, at that time, I think it was called the, what'd they call it?

[635.98 --> 637.62] Market, Android Market?

[637.92 --> 638.74] Something like that.

[638.74 --> 638.92] Marketplace?

[639.18 --> 639.20] Marketplace?

[639.20 --> 639.34] Yeah.

[639.44 --> 639.72] Anyway.

[639.92 --> 640.26] I don't know.

[640.72 --> 641.90] Anyway, it didn't have it.

[641.96 --> 643.44] And I kind of had this realization.

[643.58 --> 647.16] I was like, wow, without apps, this is really stupid.

[647.52 --> 648.90] It doesn't really do anything.

[648.90 --> 653.50] And you could install it, but I think it might've involved rooting it or something ridiculous

[653.50 --> 653.96] like that.

[653.98 --> 655.24] It's a pretty annoying process.

[655.38 --> 655.56] Anyway.

[655.62 --> 656.46] It's not very user-friendly.

[656.78 --> 657.60] It's a dumb process.

[657.96 --> 660.98] And so that whole thing kind of went away.

[661.20 --> 666.14] And I'm sure Twitch chat or YouTube chat is like flipping out about, you know, me not

[666.14 --> 667.00] knowing exactly.

[667.24 --> 668.82] It was Android Market or something like that.

[668.88 --> 670.60] I think you were pretty, pretty accurate on that one.

[670.64 --> 672.16] Oh, I was, I was on the phone with Google.

[672.28 --> 673.54] Someone, who is this?

[673.86 --> 675.92] The birdie T says, you were on the phone with Google.

[676.02 --> 677.20] Finish a story for once.

[677.20 --> 677.96] Come on.

[678.48 --> 679.44] I was on the phone with Google.

[679.52 --> 682.16] The first thing I said was thank you very much for going down last week.

[682.28 --> 682.98] It was hilarious.

[683.54 --> 686.18] And also, yay, float plane.

[687.56 --> 688.38] Float plane for life.

[688.98 --> 689.38] Okay.

[689.84 --> 689.98] So.

[690.16 --> 691.32] So yeah, it was called Android Market.

[691.60 --> 692.08] Android Market.

[692.20 --> 692.40] Yes.

[693.16 --> 694.44] I said Marketplace didn't.

[694.54 --> 695.28] I shouldn't have hedged my bets.

[695.32 --> 695.88] I think you said both.

[696.10 --> 696.50] That's okay.

[697.44 --> 698.04] All right.

[698.84 --> 703.14] So basically the changes came in response to a July ruling by the European Commission,

[703.14 --> 709.44] which fined the company $5 billion for antitrust violations in order to stop illegally tying

[709.44 --> 711.66] Chrome and search to Android.

[711.80 --> 712.30] Super chats.

[713.00 --> 715.20] You have got to be kidding me.

[717.36 --> 717.78] That.

[718.50 --> 720.10] He's actually doing it.

[720.10 --> 721.02] He's actually doing it.

[721.42 --> 725.10] See, little does he know that he's screwing himself.