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[1000.92 --> 1004.78] Like I really dedicated time to trolling Steve because heart that guy.
[1005.70 --> 1006.58] Oh, wow.
[1006.64 --> 1007.92] There's a, that's weird.
[1008.00 --> 1008.80] They're not loading here.
[1009.50 --> 1011.66] The super chats aren't loading on my laptop, but they're loading up here.
[1011.72 --> 1012.94] He is still sending them.
[1013.92 --> 1016.88] Apparently I was informed that he intends to send 100.
[1017.50 --> 1018.62] He intends to send 100.
[1018.78 --> 1019.50] There's no way.
[1019.58 --> 1020.62] There's no way.
[1020.84 --> 1021.68] Now tech deals.
[1022.10 --> 1024.36] Now tech deals is sending super chats.
[1025.32 --> 1026.10] All right, Jason.
[1027.50 --> 1027.90] Chill.
[1029.10 --> 1031.16] Everybody just, everybody just calm down.
[1031.50 --> 1033.60] I need everybody to relax for a minute here.
[1035.92 --> 1036.66] All right.
[1036.72 --> 1037.06] All right.
[1037.08 --> 1042.70] So let's go ahead and jump back into our topic here because I take, I take user feedback to heart.
[1042.88 --> 1044.60] And we should just finish the story.
[1044.60 --> 1045.12] Finish the story.
[1045.14 --> 1046.98] Finish the story for once.
[1047.48 --> 1054.62] So the European commission fined the company 5 billion for antitrust violations, ordered it to stop illegally tying Chrome and search apps to Android.
[1055.36 --> 1055.84] Okay.
[1056.18 --> 1057.38] Now, hold on.
[1057.38 --> 1057.72] Okay.
[1057.76 --> 1059.10] I will finish the story.
[1059.24 --> 1059.52] I promise.
[1059.96 --> 1066.90] But how is it that Microsoft has somehow slipped under the radar with the-
[1066.90 --> 1067.42] With Edge?
[1067.54 --> 1069.64] And I'm not trying to like engage in whataboutism here.
[1069.64 --> 1070.22] And OneDrive?
[1070.22 --> 1071.80] How is it?
[1071.80 --> 1072.44] And everything else?
[1073.48 --> 1073.92] Seriously.
[1074.24 --> 1078.94] What they do now is so much worse than what they got fined for before.
[1078.94 --> 1086.76] The way that Edge pervasively prompts you to use it without any way to disable the behavior.
[1087.46 --> 1089.64] Like, and there's probably a reg edit somewhere or whatever.
[1089.82 --> 1091.18] I'm sure there's a way to disable it.
[1091.40 --> 1097.62] But without any user-friendly way to disable the message should be illegal.
[1097.62 --> 1097.70] Google.
[1099.34 --> 1103.94] And yet we're concerned about Google.
[1103.94 --> 1104.94] Google.
[1104.94 --> 1105.94] Google.
[1105.94 --> 1106.94] So anyway.
[1106.94 --> 1111.94] Google was bundling its search engine and Chrome apps into the operating system.
[1111.94 --> 1117.28] They also blocked phone makers from creating devices that ran forked versions of Android.
[1117.56 --> 1124.64] And it made payments to certain large manufacturers and mobile network operators to exclusively bundle the Google Search app on handsets.
[1124.64 --> 1131.44] So before, Google didn't charge for Android and its apps because of the revenue brought in through Chrome and Search.
[1131.52 --> 1133.48] And for whatever reason, our notes doesn't contain this.
[1133.56 --> 1134.76] But also the Play Store.
[1134.90 --> 1135.04] Yeah.
[1135.22 --> 1136.06] Google takes the cut.
[1136.12 --> 1145.82] That's why Epic Games wants you downloading Fortnite directly through their site and enabling the trust third-party side installs thing.
[1145.82 --> 1148.64] Because they didn't want to give, what is it, like 30% or something stupid like that?
[1148.72 --> 1148.78] It's a lot.
[1148.78 --> 1149.84] Like, it's a significant portion.
[1149.84 --> 1155.56] And when you're like a multi-billion dollar business like Fortnite, you know, 30%.
[1155.56 --> 1157.66] A lot of money.
[1157.76 --> 1158.80] Heck of a lot of money.
[1158.98 --> 1159.10] Yeah.
[1160.78 --> 1162.56] So before they didn't charge for it.
[1162.74 --> 1168.42] But since the pre-installation of Google Search and Chrome together with our other apps helped us fund the development and free distribution of Android,
[1168.54 --> 1173.00] we will introduce a new paid licensing agreement for smartphones and tablets shipped into the European economic area.
[1173.00 --> 1182.62] So now, in Europe, Android is free, but the Play Store and many of Google's other apps, like Gmail, Google Maps, and YouTube,
[1182.98 --> 1185.78] will be bundled together under a paid licensing agreement.
[1186.84 --> 1192.08] Chrome plus Google Search can be added on top of that agreement for free, but it isn't required.
[1192.34 --> 1195.88] So it's not clear yet at this time how much the fees will be.
[1195.88 --> 1204.32] One thing we do know is this won't be driving costs down for Europeans who already pay more than North Americans for the equivalent devices.
[1204.90 --> 1212.92] Isn't that, like, should we do, like, a dedicated video on the utterly craptastic pricing of tech in Europe?
[1213.88 --> 1214.72] That would be really cool.
[1214.90 --> 1219.22] Because how often do you see it where, for some reason, it's...
[1219.22 --> 1226.40] Remember, okay, this is a slightly behind-the-scenes thing, but remember when I wanted to make that video of, like, buying technology,
[1226.52 --> 1228.50] the experience of buying technology in different countries?
[1228.54 --> 1230.18] Yeah, we did one episode in, like, Switzerland.
[1231.26 --> 1232.54] Did we actually do it?
[1232.74 --> 1233.10] Yes.
[1233.66 --> 1234.32] You filmed it.
[1234.34 --> 1235.48] I didn't think we released it.
[1235.60 --> 1235.88] Yeah.
[1236.22 --> 1236.54] Oh.
[1236.78 --> 1237.90] It wasn't very well received.
[1238.04 --> 1238.18] Yeah.
[1238.18 --> 1238.86] It was kind of rushed.
[1239.10 --> 1240.02] But it was a concept.
[1240.08 --> 1240.52] It was quite rushed.
[1240.68 --> 1240.94] But, yeah.
[1241.04 --> 1241.66] Could have done better.
[1241.76 --> 1242.66] It kind of sucked.
[1243.14 --> 1245.92] Like, there was a store that was really cool.
[1246.08 --> 1246.78] I remember that.
[1246.78 --> 1249.00] There was a, like, I think it was called Media Markt.
[1249.68 --> 1252.74] And it was a really cool store because they had lots of keyboards on display and all this kind of stuff.
[1252.92 --> 1254.32] But everything was wicked expensive.
[1255.62 --> 1256.58] Like, it was rough.
[1258.22 --> 1258.74] Brutal.
[1259.00 --> 1262.84] And, like, dealing with different mods on the forum, on the Linus Tech Tips forum,
[1263.04 --> 1268.42] that happened to be in Europe or Australia or New Zealand or, like, other areas kind of like that.
[1268.56 --> 1271.18] It's always just wicked how expensive their stuff is.
[1271.36 --> 1272.74] For a long time, I thought it was VAT.

[1000.92 --> 1004.78] Like I really dedicated time to trolling Steve because heart that guy.

[1005.70 --> 1006.58] Oh, wow.

[1006.64 --> 1007.92] There's a, that's weird.

[1008.00 --> 1008.80] They're not loading here.

[1009.50 --> 1011.66] The super chats aren't loading on my laptop, but they're loading up here.

[1011.72 --> 1012.94] He is still sending them.

[1013.92 --> 1016.88] Apparently I was informed that he intends to send 100.

[1017.50 --> 1018.62] He intends to send 100.

[1018.78 --> 1019.50] There's no way.

[1019.58 --> 1020.62] There's no way.

[1020.84 --> 1021.68] Now tech deals.

[1022.10 --> 1024.36] Now tech deals is sending super chats.

[1025.32 --> 1026.10] All right, Jason.

[1027.50 --> 1027.90] Chill.

[1029.10 --> 1031.16] Everybody just, everybody just calm down.

[1031.50 --> 1033.60] I need everybody to relax for a minute here.

[1035.92 --> 1036.66] All right.

[1036.72 --> 1037.06] All right.

[1037.08 --> 1042.70] So let's go ahead and jump back into our topic here because I take, I take user feedback to heart.

[1042.88 --> 1044.60] And we should just finish the story.

[1044.60 --> 1045.12] Finish the story.

[1045.14 --> 1046.98] Finish the story for once.

[1047.48 --> 1054.62] So the European commission fined the company 5 billion for antitrust violations, ordered it to stop illegally tying Chrome and search apps to Android.

[1055.36 --> 1055.84] Okay.

[1056.18 --> 1057.38] Now, hold on.

[1057.38 --> 1057.72] Okay.

[1057.76 --> 1059.10] I will finish the story.

[1059.24 --> 1059.52] I promise.

[1059.96 --> 1066.90] But how is it that Microsoft has somehow slipped under the radar with the-

[1066.90 --> 1067.42] With Edge?

[1067.54 --> 1069.64] And I'm not trying to like engage in whataboutism here.

[1069.64 --> 1070.22] And OneDrive?

[1070.22 --> 1071.80] How is it?

[1071.80 --> 1072.44] And everything else?

[1073.48 --> 1073.92] Seriously.

[1074.24 --> 1078.94] What they do now is so much worse than what they got fined for before.

[1078.94 --> 1086.76] The way that Edge pervasively prompts you to use it without any way to disable the behavior.

[1087.46 --> 1089.64] Like, and there's probably a reg edit somewhere or whatever.

[1089.82 --> 1091.18] I'm sure there's a way to disable it.

[1091.40 --> 1097.62] But without any user-friendly way to disable the message should be illegal.

[1097.62 --> 1097.70] Google.

[1099.34 --> 1103.94] And yet we're concerned about Google.

[1103.94 --> 1104.94] Google.

[1104.94 --> 1105.94] Google.

[1105.94 --> 1106.94] So anyway.

[1106.94 --> 1111.94] Google was bundling its search engine and Chrome apps into the operating system.

[1111.94 --> 1117.28] They also blocked phone makers from creating devices that ran forked versions of Android.

[1117.56 --> 1124.64] And it made payments to certain large manufacturers and mobile network operators to exclusively bundle the Google Search app on handsets.

[1124.64 --> 1131.44] So before, Google didn't charge for Android and its apps because of the revenue brought in through Chrome and Search.

[1131.52 --> 1133.48] And for whatever reason, our notes doesn't contain this.

[1133.56 --> 1134.76] But also the Play Store.

[1134.90 --> 1135.04] Yeah.

[1135.22 --> 1136.06] Google takes the cut.

[1136.12 --> 1145.82] That's why Epic Games wants you downloading Fortnite directly through their site and enabling the trust third-party side installs thing.

[1145.82 --> 1148.64] Because they didn't want to give, what is it, like 30% or something stupid like that?

[1148.72 --> 1148.78] It's a lot.

[1148.78 --> 1149.84] Like, it's a significant portion.

[1149.84 --> 1155.56] And when you're like a multi-billion dollar business like Fortnite, you know, 30%.

[1155.56 --> 1157.66] A lot of money.

[1157.76 --> 1158.80] Heck of a lot of money.

[1158.98 --> 1159.10] Yeah.

[1160.78 --> 1162.56] So before they didn't charge for it.

[1162.74 --> 1168.42] But since the pre-installation of Google Search and Chrome together with our other apps helped us fund the development and free distribution of Android,

[1168.54 --> 1173.00] we will introduce a new paid licensing agreement for smartphones and tablets shipped into the European economic area.

[1173.00 --> 1182.62] So now, in Europe, Android is free, but the Play Store and many of Google's other apps, like Gmail, Google Maps, and YouTube,

[1182.98 --> 1185.78] will be bundled together under a paid licensing agreement.

[1186.84 --> 1192.08] Chrome plus Google Search can be added on top of that agreement for free, but it isn't required.

[1192.34 --> 1195.88] So it's not clear yet at this time how much the fees will be.

[1195.88 --> 1204.32] One thing we do know is this won't be driving costs down for Europeans who already pay more than North Americans for the equivalent devices.

[1204.90 --> 1212.92] Isn't that, like, should we do, like, a dedicated video on the utterly craptastic pricing of tech in Europe?

[1213.88 --> 1214.72] That would be really cool.

[1214.90 --> 1219.22] Because how often do you see it where, for some reason, it's...

[1219.22 --> 1226.40] Remember, okay, this is a slightly behind-the-scenes thing, but remember when I wanted to make that video of, like, buying technology,

[1226.52 --> 1228.50] the experience of buying technology in different countries?

[1228.54 --> 1230.18] Yeah, we did one episode in, like, Switzerland.

[1231.26 --> 1232.54] Did we actually do it?

[1232.74 --> 1233.10] Yes.

[1233.66 --> 1234.32] You filmed it.

[1234.34 --> 1235.48] I didn't think we released it.

[1235.60 --> 1235.88] Yeah.

[1236.22 --> 1236.54] Oh.

[1236.78 --> 1237.90] It wasn't very well received.

[1238.04 --> 1238.18] Yeah.

[1238.18 --> 1238.86] It was kind of rushed.

[1239.10 --> 1240.02] But it was a concept.

[1240.08 --> 1240.52] It was quite rushed.

[1240.68 --> 1240.94] But, yeah.

[1241.04 --> 1241.66] Could have done better.

[1241.76 --> 1242.66] It kind of sucked.

[1243.14 --> 1245.92] Like, there was a store that was really cool.

[1246.08 --> 1246.78] I remember that.

[1246.78 --> 1249.00] There was a, like, I think it was called Media Markt.

[1249.68 --> 1252.74] And it was a really cool store because they had lots of keyboards on display and all this kind of stuff.

[1252.92 --> 1254.32] But everything was wicked expensive.

[1255.62 --> 1256.58] Like, it was rough.

[1258.22 --> 1258.74] Brutal.

[1259.00 --> 1262.84] And, like, dealing with different mods on the forum, on the Linus Tech Tips forum,

[1263.04 --> 1268.42] that happened to be in Europe or Australia or New Zealand or, like, other areas kind of like that.

[1268.56 --> 1271.18] It's always just wicked how expensive their stuff is.

[1271.36 --> 1272.74] For a long time, I thought it was VAT.