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[3036.52 --> 3039.46] Or just like repeatedly buying a TV and returning it so they can have... |
[3039.46 --> 3041.68] Yeah, or some kind of other discernible pattern like that. |
[3042.46 --> 3042.84] Yeah. |
[3043.00 --> 3047.74] I feel like it'll have to be pretty blatant for them to like keep your ban after an appeal. |
[3048.38 --> 3048.72] Yeah. |
[3048.96 --> 3050.02] I know that they do. |
[3050.28 --> 3051.86] They're pretty savage with some other things. |
[3051.96 --> 3054.50] I was talking to a friend who has an Amazon... |
[3054.50 --> 3057.82] He's like an Amazon seller for a business as his business. |
[3058.32 --> 3061.48] And they're really strict about fake reviews, right? |
[3061.80 --> 3065.80] But what they're doing was like, they'll actually send you a product for you to review. |
[3066.80 --> 3068.66] So you bought it from them. |
[3068.66 --> 3071.24] You can be a real buyer of the product. |
[3071.40 --> 3072.44] And then you get the product. |
[3072.64 --> 3074.38] And then you're supposed to give a five-star review. |
[3074.96 --> 3081.08] And the way that they did this was that they gave discounts to all of those potential reviewers. |
[3081.96 --> 3084.80] Because you don't want to like sell an item full price. |
[3084.92 --> 3088.60] Amazon takes a large part of that just to get this. |
[3088.66 --> 3090.28] That's like a high cost for a fake review. |
[3090.36 --> 3093.22] You want to get your fake review at the cheapest level possible. |
[3093.40 --> 3094.28] So then you just... |
[3094.28 --> 3096.30] If it's a $100 item, you send it... |
[3096.30 --> 3097.32] Give them 95% off. |
[3097.32 --> 3098.22] So it's like five bucks. |
[3098.22 --> 3100.20] And then Amazon just gets a dollar or whatever. |
[3100.40 --> 3101.58] And then you get your fake review. |
[3101.70 --> 3106.24] So what Amazon did is they went through and they said any item that was sold at a discount was... |
[3106.24 --> 3107.30] All those reviews are gone now. |
[3107.66 --> 3109.98] So you just lost like a third of your reviews. |
[3110.20 --> 3110.34] Good. |
[3111.34 --> 3111.94] I don't know. |
[3112.16 --> 3113.28] I think that's completely okay. |
[3113.50 --> 3114.74] Because the amount of like... |
[3114.74 --> 3117.56] Well, unless you actually just had a discount code or something like that. |
[3117.62 --> 3118.28] That was legit. |
[3118.62 --> 3120.08] And all those people were like super happy. |
[3120.14 --> 3121.30] Yeah, I tried it for the first time. |
[3121.56 --> 3122.08] It's great. |
[3122.08 --> 3127.28] I just came to Amazon.com slash WAN or whatever and got my product and I loved it. |
[3127.72 --> 3131.74] And here's a five-star review that's legit, but it's gone now because they're throwing at the baby with the bathwater. |
[3132.08 --> 3132.22] Yeah. |
[3132.26 --> 3132.48] Okay. |
[3132.52 --> 3132.90] That's fair. |
[3133.48 --> 3134.04] I just... |
[3134.04 --> 3136.74] Something that drove me insane was I was... |
[3136.74 --> 3142.04] I'm not going to disclose who largely because I don't know if they ever actually ended up doing anything with this guy. |
[3142.70 --> 3146.16] I know the guy was there, but I don't know what type of association there was. |
[3146.20 --> 3148.42] I don't know if they were actually doing any business, etc, etc. |
[3148.42 --> 3149.54] So I'm not going to say the company name. |
[3149.64 --> 3154.46] But one year at CES, I went to a company's hotel suite to film a video. |
[3155.08 --> 3157.86] And there was a dude there and he was hanging out and I was waiting for my meeting. |
[3157.94 --> 3159.46] So I was just like, hey, let's talk. |
[3160.74 --> 3161.80] We're both overtired. |
[3161.90 --> 3162.42] We're at CES. |
[3162.56 --> 3163.36] Let's chat about stuff. |
[3163.70 --> 3164.64] Just asked him what he did. |
[3164.64 --> 3174.04] He was one of the business acquisition guys for a company that posts fake reviews on Amazon. |
[3174.96 --> 3176.50] It was a whole giant company. |
[3176.80 --> 3178.70] There's a huge industry of click farms. |
[3179.20 --> 3181.94] People do all days create accounts and then like pages. |
[3182.40 --> 3184.04] He was essentially one of those guys. |
[3184.28 --> 3188.28] And I remember I may have not been the nicest person. |
[3190.10 --> 3190.92] You're evil. |
[3191.16 --> 3191.52] You're a jerk. |
[3192.18 --> 3193.26] You are a dirt. |
[3194.64 --> 3196.42] You are a single unit of dirt. |
[3197.56 --> 3199.08] Because it kind of pissed me off. |
[3199.26 --> 3201.44] But like these are absolutely a thing. |
[3201.86 --> 3202.12] Oh, yeah. |
[3202.32 --> 3204.20] They're running around CES with badges. |
[3204.56 --> 3205.66] Like this was this was. |
[3205.88 --> 3208.16] Yeah, this is a pretty big industry. |
[3208.16 --> 3209.48] So I'm very happy that they're shutting it down. |
[3209.48 --> 3212.34] I think that in some countries it's like a large sector. |
[3212.92 --> 3215.16] Just like tourism is a big sector in some countries. |
[3215.40 --> 3215.54] Yeah. |
[3215.72 --> 3219.86] Click farms is like a big deal in individual particular countries. |
[3219.86 --> 3222.42] Just like scams are in some parts of Western Africa. |
[3222.56 --> 3225.90] It's like we're all we're all making money just scamming North America. |
[3226.04 --> 3229.50] Those phone numbers that call you and try to get your banking info. |
[3229.62 --> 3229.98] Hackerville. |
[3230.74 --> 3231.18] Hackerville. |
[3231.74 --> 3232.86] Hackerville is an interesting thing. |
[3233.10 --> 3235.00] Anyways, the show is over. |
[3235.52 --> 3235.78] Oh. |
[3236.76 --> 3237.18] Boom. |
[3237.38 --> 3237.72] See ya. |
[3238.30 --> 3238.76] Later. |
[3240.38 --> 3241.20] See ya never. |
[3241.64 --> 3242.66] Whatever, guys. |
[3242.66 --> 3244.00] I'll see you next week. |
[3244.22 --> 3244.58] Bye. |
[3245.72 --> 3248.10] Can I say what we're doing next week? |
[3248.44 --> 3249.28] I don't know. |
[3251.90 --> 3255.16] Better just sign up for Plotflame Club. |
[3255.50 --> 3258.54] And then get early access to whatever it is we're doing. |
[3258.94 --> 3260.04] On Plotflame Club. |
[3260.86 --> 3261.16] Yes. |
[3261.90 --> 3262.24] All right. |
[3262.46 --> 3262.92] Bye, guys. |
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