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[1132.04 --> 1138.84] on floatplane you do. So this pricing structure really doesn't make a ton of sense. Yeah. Um, |
[1139.74 --> 1144.54] YouTube has features that we simply won't be able to deliver on floatplane at this time, |
[1144.54 --> 1149.46] like stories. Okay. So, so there's, there's that, I guess, but that has nothing to do with |
[1149.46 --> 1155.30] memberships because right now there's no way to do a members specific story. And then, um, |
[1156.32 --> 1161.24] they're both going to get live streams from now on. Actually, it was just a total like brain fart that |
[1161.24 --> 1166.14] the, uh, oil PC build stream earlier today didn't go on floatplane. We'll deal with that next time. |
[1166.68 --> 1173.82] Um, and then floatplane also has sort of other things that are going to be coming later, |
[1173.82 --> 1178.48] but that won't be over there. So we, we just, we just really don't know what to do right now. |
[1179.22 --> 1186.40] There, I said it. Some people are pointing out that the forum is at $2.99 and floatplane, |
[1186.56 --> 1197.64] it is $3.00. Really? So we got rid of the penny in Canada. Um, yeah. If you guys want to catch up, |
[1197.64 --> 1208.22] $2.99 is actually, actually $3.00. Um, I mean, okay, no, you know what? No, I'm not conceding on |
[1208.22 --> 1214.58] this one. I was going to say, okay, that is 10 cents in a year, 12, but like, |
[1214.58 --> 1221.24] I think it's fine. Okay. I think we're fine. Oh, why don't we talk about the Carlton dance? |
[1221.36 --> 1226.94] What the hell is a Carlton dance? I don't know. Okay. Cause like, I didn't really, I wasn't like, |
[1226.94 --> 1231.10] I know it's a thing. I think you like swing your arms back and forth and like do something, |
[1231.26 --> 1236.98] but I don't really know. Okay. Here we go. Here we go. Oh man. What is this? Okay. This video is |
[1236.98 --> 1244.06] restricted from playing in your current geographic region. Wow. Well, you know what? I think we can kind of |
[1244.06 --> 1249.70] get the point. Yeah. I think you like throw your hips out and like flail your arms up and then |
[1249.70 --> 1256.28] snap and then the other way. So the article here is blah, blah, blah. The Carlton dance was a |
[1256.28 --> 1263.90] trademark of Ribeiro's iconic character. And he's now claiming that the fresh emote in Fortnite is an |
[1263.90 --> 1272.90] exact replica of his well known moves. Has Alfonso Ribeiro checked the year lately? |
[1274.06 --> 1277.86] Does that matter? Are those moves that well known anymore? |
[1279.52 --> 1282.92] The emote's called fresh. I think people are pretty aware. |
[1283.86 --> 1289.56] I think the developers were aware of what they were doing, but I think in the context of anyone |
[1289.56 --> 1299.02] under 25, it's a Fortnite dance. Yeah. Yeah. Also, I still don't think that gives you grounds. |
[1299.02 --> 1302.40] At what point does John Travolta be like, you can't do this? |
[1305.18 --> 1313.50] I mean, I would make the argument that that Saturday Night Fever, that movie cover is far |
[1313.50 --> 1316.58] more iconic than anything Alfonso Ribeiro has ever done. |
[1316.72 --> 1320.20] To go, I, in the end, I agree with you, but to go against you for a second. |
[1320.20 --> 1321.90] Oh, I'm playing devil's advocate right now. Okay. Yeah. |
[1321.90 --> 1325.16] I'm just having some fun. So go ahead. Say whatever you want to say. |
[1325.16 --> 1328.26] I was going to say, it doesn't matter that something's more iconic. You still defend your trademark. |
[1329.34 --> 1335.96] Like, like, like, yeah. Apple's kind of a bigger deal or YouTube or, or Patreon or Apple or Microsoft. |
[1335.96 --> 1340.24] They're all kind of a bigger deal than Floatplane and Lime's Media Group, but we would defend our trademark |
[1340.24 --> 1343.32] to a certain degree. We'll do our best. |
[1343.32 --> 1349.44] Like if someone put like LTT edition on like some hardware in a computer, we'd be like, hey dog. |
[1349.44 --> 1350.58] You actually can't do that. |
[1350.60 --> 1351.28] What are you doing? |
[1351.38 --> 1351.50] Yeah. |
[1351.56 --> 1352.50] That's not okay. |
[1353.44 --> 1356.00] But this dance. |
[1357.62 --> 1361.64] Dance moves are traditionally very hard to protect this way. |
[1363.08 --> 1363.52] Yeah. |
[1364.20 --> 1371.46] Like, as far as I've heard, you can protect the specific choreography, but you can't actually |
[1371.46 --> 1377.14] protect like performing the dance. And then that gets weird because it's like in a game. |
[1377.14 --> 1381.88] Another thing I was actually really confused about is what actually gives him the right |
[1381.88 --> 1382.34] to sue. |
[1383.08 --> 1387.66] That is something that I was kind of going to bring up as well. |
[1387.66 --> 1389.16] Because it's his character. It's not him. |
[1389.36 --> 1394.14] It's his character. I mean, that's, that's another really tricky thing. |
[1394.14 --> 1399.52] Like I could never, this isn't really relevant anymore, but I could never, it's not the same |
[1399.52 --> 1402.68] thing. It's a name, whatever. Ignore that part. I could never see someone over the use |
[1402.68 --> 1404.14] of slick as a thingy. |
[1404.92 --> 1405.20] No. |
[1405.20 --> 1408.80] Because that was, or like, uh, that was not me that did that. |
[1408.82 --> 1413.48] But then here's the thing. Catchphrases have been successfully trademarked. Like the let's |
[1413.48 --> 1415.10] get ready to, I'm not going to say it. |
[1415.16 --> 1419.04] Okay. Yeah. But wasn't that because he was an independent actor? |
[1419.72 --> 1420.10] Yes. |
[1420.36 --> 1425.32] This is, he was on a show. There was producers, there was executive producers, there's people |
[1425.32 --> 1427.20] that owned the trademark of Fresh Prince. |
[1427.20 --> 1432.08] Yes. There's, there's, there's copyright holders involved in this process that are not |
[1432.08 --> 1436.10] him. He was paid to be on the show. I don't think he owned, he might, I could be wrong. |
[1436.10 --> 1439.70] No, I don't think so. But let's assume he isn't. Um, so here, here's just a bit more |
[1439.70 --> 1443.86] of a summary here. So he's filed suit against Epic Games, claiming he's in the process of |
[1443.86 --> 1448.60] copywriting the dance. So to be clear, he hasn't already copyrighted it. Um, it's widely, |
[1448.60 --> 1453.68] and this is, this is a quote. It is widely recognized that Mr. Ribeiro's likeness and intellectual |
[1453.68 --> 1457.98] property have been misappropriated by Epic Games and the most popular video game currently in |
[1457.98 --> 1462.88] the world. Fortnite. There's also plenty of games that have this dance. Epic has earned |
[1462.88 --> 1466.84] record profits, profits off of downloadable content in the game, including emotes like |
[1466.84 --> 1472.74] Fresh. Okay. So they're selling it, which I guess is a bit more of a gray area. Yeah. |
[1472.92 --> 1477.28] Um, yet Epic has failed to compensate or even ask permission from Mr. Ribeiro for the use of |
[1477.28 --> 1481.40] his likeness and iconic intellectual property. Someone said he improvised the dance. That's why |
[1481.40 --> 1487.86] he's claiming it. If you improvise something on a show you are paid to act on, that does not |
[1487.86 --> 1493.46] at all mean you just get it. Guess who owns a catchphrase that Luke says on the WAN show? |
[1497.90 --> 1502.96] That's just how it works. Yeah. He has a contract that says that. Yeah. Um, in fact, |
[1502.96 --> 1509.64] that's like the whole point. If, if Luke invents something at Floatplane Media Incorporated, |
[1509.64 --> 1516.50] um, now that's like, okay, that's a little bit more complicated, but, but the, the entity that will own |
[1516.50 --> 1524.34] his invention will be Floatplane Media Incorporated. It's in his contract and I'm, it's probably in his |
[1524.34 --> 1531.62] contract. With that said, it was the eighties. Maybe it was a wilder time. Um, but I, I find it very, |
[1531.92 --> 1538.76] very hard to believe. Now, earlier this month, rapper 2Milli launched nearly identical legal action |
[1538.76 --> 1544.82] against the game, claiming the swipe it emote rips off the Millie rock dance he invented. Um, and they |
[1544.82 --> 1549.58] have also filed suits against 2K games for featuring their dance moves as player emotes in that franchise |
[1549.58 --> 1557.52] too. So where exactly is the line here? It's sort of my feedback on this. |
[1560.24 --> 1566.22] I don't know. Because the argument's being made that they're using his likeness, but I would make |
[1566.22 --> 1572.56] the counter argument that a Fortnite character's likeness is really not very close to a real person. |
[1572.56 --> 1579.88] These are very cartoony. And as far as I can tell, um, who the heck was it that tried to, |
[1579.92 --> 1582.52] was it Lindsay Lohan or something that tried to claim that the- |
[1582.52 --> 1582.90] GTA? |
[1583.32 --> 1583.56] Yeah. |
[1583.66 --> 1584.58] Yeah. She lost. |
[1584.68 --> 1585.66] Yeah. She lost. |
[1585.84 --> 1592.28] In, in a hilarious way. The judge was like, that's just like an average, like whatever, |
[1592.50 --> 1595.10] skimpily clad female. Doesn't matter. |
[1595.10 --> 1602.46] Yeah. So I think that, that arguing that this likeness is, arguing the likeness is tough. |
[1603.34 --> 1606.16] Arguing the dance move. Oh man. |
[1607.82 --> 1613.64] Again, I think that's really hard. And like to say that putting your hip in one direction and |
[1613.64 --> 1615.16] swinging your arms in the other. |
[1615.34 --> 1615.76] Yeah. |
[1615.76 --> 1623.74] Is like the most unique thing. I think that's pretty much the whole dance. Like, I don't know. |
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