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[476.00 --> 476.80] they pride themselves.
[476.80 --> 477.00] Like,
[477.06 --> 477.14] oh,
[477.14 --> 478.26] this will get your kids off their phone.
[478.32 --> 478.42] I'm like,
[478.46 --> 478.64] actually,
[478.66 --> 478.74] no,
[478.74 --> 479.78] I want this on the phone.
[479.86 --> 481.72] So the kids will do this on their phone because it's,
[481.80 --> 482.54] it's that good.
[483.10 --> 483.42] Anyway,
[483.56 --> 484.32] really good stuff.
[484.54 --> 484.70] So,
[484.84 --> 486.96] but I thought that was on my list and Ron was terrific.
[487.04 --> 487.26] All right.
[487.28 --> 487.92] Now I'm down to four.
[488.40 --> 488.76] Exactly.
[488.92 --> 489.18] Jess.
[489.52 --> 493.80] So this one's probably not on anyone else's list because it's something that we
[493.80 --> 496.40] found out after an episode aired.
[496.40 --> 501.30] So Kenneth was telling me that during Rick's episode where he's talking about how he
[501.30 --> 504.20] scan the internet for all the vulnerable VMCs.
[504.38 --> 506.86] He did that from Kenneth's infrastructure,
[507.36 --> 507.60] which is,
[507.78 --> 509.98] it's such a great on the metal tie.
[510.20 --> 510.38] And yeah,
[510.44 --> 510.72] exactly.
[510.72 --> 513.20] Cause I love the interconnected world.
[513.32 --> 515.22] The interconnected worlds are great.
[515.22 --> 516.26] And I thought,
[516.34 --> 516.56] I mean,
[516.56 --> 519.50] there's so much about Kenneth story that really,
[519.50 --> 520.10] I thought it was,
[520.20 --> 525.18] what was interesting is the degree that one really resonated with people listening to
[525.18 --> 525.62] on the metal.
[525.72 --> 526.08] Yeah.
[526.16 --> 526.34] Well,
[526.34 --> 529.40] because it's like the Forrest Gump of like an internet exchange.
[529.50 --> 529.80] Okay.
[529.82 --> 530.12] Careful,
[530.12 --> 530.42] careful.
[530.42 --> 530.92] Cause this is,
[531.00 --> 532.62] we're starting to like get into other ones.
[532.96 --> 533.40] Okay.
[534.18 --> 535.40] Steve clearly getting finished.
[535.62 --> 540.44] Go watch myself.
[540.66 --> 540.86] Yeah.
[541.04 --> 541.50] But that,
[541.50 --> 541.98] but that,
[541.98 --> 543.12] that is amazing that.
[543.22 --> 545.58] So Rick was obviously aware of Kenneth's,
[545.58 --> 547.34] of the Fremont internet cabal.
[547.46 --> 547.62] And,
[547.62 --> 548.24] um,
[548.24 --> 548.46] it's,
[548.50 --> 548.98] it's great.
[550.14 --> 550.80] All right,
[550.82 --> 551.22] Steve,
[551.66 --> 553.88] you want to get that one out there before it gets accidentally stolen?
[554.26 --> 554.70] Uh,
[555.02 --> 555.54] well,
[555.60 --> 556.08] so yes,
[556.08 --> 561.74] because it was Kenneth's where he was describing basically the DIY ASP,
[561.74 --> 562.90] like do it yourself,
[563.14 --> 564.10] create an ASP network.
[564.10 --> 564.40] And,
[564.40 --> 568.08] and just the way that he was describing,
[568.08 --> 576.76] putting this thing together in building blocks and how folks across the aisle from each other in racks were running cables illegally.
[576.76 --> 578.52] And before you know it,
[578.52 --> 578.92] you know,
[578.92 --> 580.30] with a low ASP number,
[580.76 --> 581.14] he's,
[581.22 --> 581.56] uh,
[581.56 --> 581.88] he's,
[581.88 --> 582.82] he's created something that,
[582.98 --> 583.16] you know,
[583.16 --> 583.82] I personally,
[584.12 --> 584.86] thank you.
[585.10 --> 585.28] Yeah.
[585.28 --> 585.60] Uh,
[585.60 --> 586.90] I personally had thought of as,
[586.98 --> 587.22] you know,
[587.26 --> 587.74] being these,
[587.80 --> 588.42] these very,
[588.54 --> 593.64] very large companies with tons of infrastructure to be able to connect out in that way.
[593.74 --> 596.84] Can I tell you how hard I tried in doing the show notes for Kenneth?
[597.00 --> 600.78] I wanted to find the architectural firm that was sitting on his ASN.
[600.78 --> 600.80] Yes,
[600.80 --> 601.24] that had the low ASN.
[601.32 --> 601.56] God,
[601.66 --> 601.80] I tried,
[601.90 --> 603.34] because he just said it's an architectural firm.
[603.36 --> 603.64] And I'm like,
[603.72 --> 606.16] I got to know the story of this architectural firm.
[606.40 --> 609.96] And I tried really hard to find the architectural firm sitting on that ASN.
[610.00 --> 610.18] And I,
[610.18 --> 611.02] I couldn't find them.
[611.98 --> 612.86] And unfortunately,
[612.96 --> 614.30] like we know that they went out of business,
[614.30 --> 616.00] but that's how Kenneth got the number.