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[616.00 --> 616.24] Right. |
[616.24 --> 617.40] So it's like, |
[617.52 --> 618.48] like they're already, |
[618.66 --> 619.18] you can't find it. |
[619.22 --> 619.36] Yeah. |
[619.36 --> 620.52] It's actually already not. |
[620.60 --> 622.02] And they probably went out of business because they're like, |
[622.04 --> 623.08] not a very good architectural firm. |
[623.10 --> 624.34] So it's like already like the, |
[624.34 --> 624.54] the, |
[624.98 --> 625.94] it was against me and like, |
[625.98 --> 626.66] I did not find it. |
[626.66 --> 629.10] But learning the lengths people would go to save, |
[629.16 --> 629.32] you know, |
[629.38 --> 636.06] 50 bucks a month and bring a concrete drill into a data center to drill in from the floor above and run cabling. |
[636.30 --> 638.20] That was another one of those that was just very evocative. |
[638.32 --> 641.64] I felt like I was in the data center and I loved kind of like, |
[641.84 --> 644.28] you just got to like walk in with a hard hat and a clipboard. |
[644.30 --> 645.86] And just look like you're official. |
[646.00 --> 646.74] It'll look like you're official. |
[649.04 --> 649.90] That'll get you anywhere. |
[650.10 --> 650.32] Yeah. |
[650.44 --> 650.62] No, |
[650.66 --> 651.22] that was, |
[651.30 --> 651.70] uh, |
[651.70 --> 652.48] that was terrific. |
[653.20 --> 653.52] Uh, |
[653.52 --> 655.16] so another favorite moment of mine. |
[655.24 --> 655.38] It says, |
[655.46 --> 655.64] Steve, |
[655.68 --> 657.12] this is the one that you missed. |
[657.16 --> 658.56] You were out of town when, |
[658.70 --> 658.86] Oh, |
[658.92 --> 659.60] Tom Lyon. |
[659.76 --> 659.98] Yeah. |
[659.98 --> 661.96] And Tom talking about data point. |
[661.96 --> 666.08] And he mentioned this company data point and he recommended a book in particular. |
[666.92 --> 668.62] So book we put in the show notes at the time, |
[668.62 --> 669.38] but data point, |
[669.46 --> 672.38] the lost story of the Texans who invented the personal computer revolution. |
[672.54 --> 675.72] I got the book and read it and really enjoyed it. |
[675.72 --> 676.00] I mean, |
[676.06 --> 680.10] really interesting story about a, |
[680.10 --> 682.40] a company that had been forgotten about. |
[682.46 --> 682.86] And I thought, |
[682.96 --> 683.48] you know, |
[683.56 --> 690.72] one of the things I love about Tom is that Tom is also likes the history of the industry. |
[690.72 --> 691.76] And of course, |
[691.76 --> 694.38] because he's been in it for so much longer than we have, |
[694.94 --> 698.88] he's got this incredible depth of knowledge and interest. |
[699.58 --> 699.98] And, |
[699.98 --> 700.66] and he, |
[700.98 --> 702.52] after the podcast, |
[702.74 --> 702.86] he, |
[703.00 --> 703.16] we, |
[703.26 --> 705.18] he was showing us his manual collection, |
[705.34 --> 705.56] Jess. |
[705.60 --> 706.30] And that was, |
[706.76 --> 708.22] that was just such a great day. |
[708.22 --> 713.10] It was so much fun and just delightful stories. |
[713.10 --> 715.04] And I just loved his interest. |
[715.28 --> 718.28] And I guess he has the belief that I think the three of us have, |
[718.32 --> 719.86] and I think our listeners have, |
[719.86 --> 722.72] which is that history has got a lot to teach us that it, |
[722.94 --> 725.34] we're not just interested in this out of, |
[725.56 --> 727.92] because out of a kind of an antiquarian fascination, |
[727.92 --> 731.66] it's because we see a lot of parallels with the present and future. |
[731.86 --> 734.70] And we think that there's really something to understanding this stuff. |
[734.80 --> 735.50] So I love that. |
[735.58 --> 737.60] I love Tom's description of data point and arc net. |
[737.96 --> 738.28] Yeah. |
[738.28 --> 738.58] I was, |
[738.64 --> 739.58] I was bummed to miss that one, |
[739.62 --> 741.96] but also it was nice to be able to listen to one. |
[742.18 --> 742.54] Oh, |
[742.58 --> 742.90] interesting. |
[743.02 --> 743.20] Yeah. |
[743.46 --> 744.16] And he, |
[744.22 --> 744.98] he was fascinating. |
[745.24 --> 745.60] And, |
[745.66 --> 746.06] and I mean, |
[746.14 --> 746.38] God, |
[746.48 --> 747.10] one of what, |
[747.32 --> 747.88] nine kids. |
[747.88 --> 749.08] That was another moment. |
[749.24 --> 749.84] Like that family, |
[749.86 --> 750.60] the family, |
[750.88 --> 751.22] the family, |
[751.22 --> 753.58] I know family took over. |
[753.82 --> 754.06] They, |
[754.14 --> 754.96] I know you think, |
[755.02 --> 756.94] and like this family should be, |
[757.00 --> 758.40] and he was talking about this family reunion. |
[758.40 --> 758.80] Yeah. |
[759.16 --> 762.04] And it's like the computer history museum should, |
[762.16 --> 765.52] should send a documentary crew or just this family reunion, |
[765.66 --> 766.56] let them hold it there. |
[766.56 --> 766.96] You know, |
[767.02 --> 767.80] I guess. |
[767.98 --> 768.26] Right. |
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