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**Mat Ryer:** It is about ten years. It might be a bit more than ten years. Go isn't even that old, or it might just be... It's about 10-12... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Our birthdays are very similar. Because we interviewed Rob Pike - I think it was episode 3, I wanna say... I have to check the catalog, but this was so early days... We were like "Should we even do this show? It's a new language from Google... Yes, of course." But I didn't know who Rob Pike was, tha... |
**Mat Ryer:** Yes, that's amazing, isn't it? And I remember the first GopherCon in 2014... And I happened to be living in Denver, Colorado at the time, and that's where the conference was. So it was just like down the street. So I just walked down the street and went to this conference, and just met all these great peo... |
One thing that stood out to me is it made a point of diversity. It was something it kept repeating on stage. They wanted to make the community a welcoming place for everybody... And that's something that's always been important to me, so that really resonated... And it just felt like "Yeah, this is the right way to do ... |
**Jerod Santo:** We definitely felt that love too, because neither Adam nor I are gophers in the sense of Go programmers... But Go Time was the second show. That was the one that we launched into. Or was it RFC? Those were both around the same time. But Go Time was definitely-- |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Go Time was first... |
**Jerod Santo:** First second. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. |
**Jerod Santo:** Because we felt the love too, specifically from Brian and Eric and many others in the Go community. It was just like "This is a really welcoming, fun group, and they want us here, so hey, let's do a show with and for them." It was really why Go Time started. |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah, that's great. And I actually think Go Time has become quite an important part of the community as well... That's why it really is an honor, if I'm being genuine for five minutes... |
**Jerod Santo:** \[laughs\] You have to say it again, because we're never sure with you. Is it sarcasm, is it straightforward? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** This is genuine sarcasm. |
**Jerod Santo:** This is genuine here. |
**Mat Ryer:** You're eating in to the five minutes where I'm gonna be genuine. |
**Jerod Santo:** \[laughs\] We don't give anybody five minutes. You've got 2,5. Go ahead. |
**Mat Ryer:** \[08:05\] Okay. Well, I think Go Time has become a big part of that story as well, and it's nice to go back and listen to random episodes in the past as well. It's a very fun thing to do. And it's all just kind of open and free for everyone to listen to. I think it's great, so I'm really glad you did star... |
**Jerod Santo:** So are we. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. I think it's also an honor on this side to be a steward of that thing, of that importance. We hold that responsibility very dear to our hearts to deliver that. |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. I can tell. |
**Jerod Santo:** Well, I'm not being sarcastic when I say Go Time today wouldn't be what it is without you, because you invented the Unpopular Opinion segment, which really has become a staple of the show, and something that brings people to listen who don't care about Go or write Go, but they wanna hear about these un... |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. |
**Jerod Santo:** That was all you, man. That was all you. |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. Well, I remember -- you know, it was a kind of meme on Twitter, which it still is... And it was sort of this idea -- it's a very tongue-in-cheek segment. There's something cheeky about the spirit of Go Time that I think people do appreciate... And I get feedback in that vein occasionally. So yeah, i... |
**Jerod Santo:** Exactly. |
**Mat Ryer:** I always find it to be very funny. |
**Jerod Santo:** So seriously that we take polls to find out if they're actually unpopular... \[laughter\] Like I say in the intro, this is very serious business. We've gotta find out how unpopular these opinions are. |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. That's it. It's unpopular opinions. And if your opinion is popular, you've really failed. |
**Jerod Santo:** Yeah, you're really not good at this. \[laughs\] Well, I do hold a record as one of the most unpopular unpopular opinions of all time, so I like to hold that over your head... I hold one of the most unpopular, which -- should I just tell them what it was, or should we hold out and make them go listen? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Please. |
**Jerod Santo:** Yeah, so my unpopular opinion was that I believe that JS Party is a better podcast that Go Time. And I make a great case for it on the show, so maybe we should link that one up. But the Go community did not agree with me whatsoever... \[laughter\] |
**Adam Stacoviak:** How long is the segment on there, do you know? |
**Jerod Santo:** My part? 60-90 seconds... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Well, play that right now. |
**Extract begins:** \[10:29\] |
**Jerod Santo:** So I’m not gonna come on a podcast about Go and say that JavaScript is a better programming language; I’m no fool. I wanna walk out of here alive. But. I will happily start a proxy war by saying that JS Party is a superior podcast to Go Time. |
**Mat Ryer:** Ooooh… |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** You’re off our show. You’re off our show. |
**Jerod Santo:** \[laughs\] Let me quantify this a bit, okay? I have some evidence. So more is better, okay? We have more panelists, we have more male panelists, we have more female panelists, we have more variety, we play game shows, we host formal debates, we write and rehearse poems, we explain things to each other ... |
Go Time records on Tuesdays, one of the worst days of the week. JS Party records on Thursdays. Thursday is closer to the weekend; obviously, better. We cover more topics… Go Time is about Go. JS Party is about JavaScript and the web. That’s twice as many things. |
**Mat Ryer:** That's cheating. That's cheating. |
**Jerod Santo:** That's twice as many things, and we know the web is huge, so tons of variety... |
**Mat Ryer:** You can't take HTTP to a JS Party... |
**Jerod Santo:** \[laughs\] So in review -- |
**Mat Ryer:** See, we do poetry... |
**Jerod Santo:** ... we have more awesome panelists, we have more variety, it’s on a better day… And this is the big finale point. You’re gonna like this one. JS Party has 100% less Mat Ryer, which means we really cut down on those awkward silences. \[laughter\] |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Wow...! |
**Mat Ryer:** That is quite the pitch. |
**Extract ends:** \[11:51\] |
**Mat Ryer:** It was good, wasn't it? |
**Jerod Santo:** Really well said, I would say. |
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