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[2450.68 --> 2454.88] a real programmer or whatever don't worry about any of that but give it a try and i can name three |
[2454.88 --> 2460.58] different reasons to do it and i think all of them are sufficient on their own so first rsi it'll |
[2460.58 --> 2464.72] prevent injury it's a really important thing as a programmer if you want to make a career out of |
[2464.72 --> 2470.50] this the second is speed vim is unambiguously faster than other editors it's not even remotely |
[2470.50 --> 2475.42] controversial to say that but the question of course is going to be whether you value speed over |
[2475.42 --> 2479.46] what you may be giving up things like deep language support from something like visual studio |
[2479.46 --> 2484.50] or or a jetbrains ide or whatever so you're making a trade-off there but for me speed is even |
[2484.50 --> 2488.58] sufficient on its own because every time you have to stop and like slowly make some edits is a chance |
[2488.58 --> 2492.26] for you to forget what you were doing to lose the state in your brain and maybe you're like eight |
[2492.26 --> 2496.70] levels deep in your stack and you're going to start losing those levels right if you have to get |
[2496.70 --> 2503.48] distracted it's also just fun honestly to be fast and then the third reason is that vim unlike most |
[2503.48 --> 2507.88] other editors is not going to go away the vim keystrokes in particular so many people have them |
[2507.88 --> 2512.72] so deep in their brains that 30 years from now you will absolutely be able to get an editor that has |
[2512.72 --> 2516.44] those keystrokes i don't know whether it'll be vim i don't know whether bram molinar will be |
[2516.44 --> 2521.34] maintaining it but you will be able to use those keystrokes so any of those for me is sufficient |
[2521.34 --> 2525.74] especially for the last one if you think about the timeline just for me right 15 years at the |
[2525.74 --> 2530.14] beginning of that time textmate was just becoming popular then it was sublime text was cool |
[2530.14 --> 2535.56] then atom was cool then vs code was cool a lot of people switched between two of those three of |
[2535.56 --> 2539.38] those maybe all four of those and that whole time i was just getting better and better and better at |
[2539.38 --> 2544.12] vim and you multiply that out by the length of a career use vim for 40 years you're going to be |
[2544.12 --> 2548.10] so good at it by the end and it's still going to be totally relevant i think |
[2548.10 --> 2558.06] as a companion to this episode we have three youtube videos of our guests viming with me to |
[2558.06 --> 2563.66] give you a taste of what their vim life looks like links to those videos are in your show notes if |
[2563.66 --> 2569.42] you've never given vim a serious try hopefully this episode of the changelog convinced you it's worth |
[2569.42 --> 2575.96] your while how to go about learning vim is another conversation in and of itself drew and su's both |
[2575.96 --> 2582.28] recommended vim adventures which has been described as zelda meets text editing i know i know it had |
[2582.28 --> 2587.72] you at zelda unfortunately julia doesn't have any vim related zines for you but gary does plan to make |
[2587.72 --> 2593.48] a vim course real soon now we also have a channel in our slack dedicated to vim i encourage you to join |
[2593.48 --> 2599.12] the community which is totally free at changelog.com slash community and hop in that channel there's lots |
[2599.12 --> 2604.16] of friendly and vim passionate folks in there the channel is called vim party so you know it's good |
[2604.16 --> 2609.10] we put a lot of love into this episode so if you enjoyed it and want to hear more like this |
[2609.10 --> 2613.76] please let us know post it on twitter submit it to hacker news and reddit tell your programming |
[2613.76 --> 2618.34] pair it's a must listen write a reaction blog whatever is your pleasure we love hearing from |
[2618.34 --> 2623.64] you special thanks to source graph once again for helping us ship this interruption free to break |
[2623.64 --> 2628.58] master cylinder for all of the beats to adam stokowiak for his storytelling and production skills |
[2628.58 --> 2634.20] and to our very special guests julia evans drew neil suce hinton and gary bernhardt y'all are awesome |
[2634.20 --> 2639.64] if this is your first time listening don't forget to subscribe at changelog.com and if you love our |
[2639.64 --> 2645.12] work support us directly by joining changelog plus plus that'll get you closer to the metal and make |
[2645.12 --> 2651.84] the ads disappear check it out at changelog.com slash plus plus i'm jared santo and we'll talk to you next time |
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• Mat Ryer joins the Go Time podcast as a world-renowned Captain Jack Sparrow impersonator |
• Discussion of Mat's involvement with Go Time and how it's not just about the Go programming language |
• Mat shares his history with Go, starting with using it for App Engine before it was released |
• Discussion of the Go community's welcoming nature and diversity efforts |
• Go Time podcast's origins and its relationship with the Go community |
• The origins of the Go Time podcast and its welcoming, fun community |
• The importance of Go Time to the Go community and its role in delivering value to listeners |
• The creation of the Unpopular Opinion segment and its impact on the show |
• Jerod Santo's unpopular opinion that JS Party is a better podcast than Go Time |
• The lighthearted, humorous nature of the segment and the podcast |
• The discussion of tech wars and the importance of collaboration and using different languages and technologies together |
• Mat Ryer's experience producing JS Party and Go Time podcasts |
• The idea of a "gang fight" between the two podcasts, but it's not a serious rivalry |
• Mat Ryer's involvement with Bitbar, a menu bar app he created in 2014 to track Bitcoin prices |
• The app's development and features, including its hackability and plugin capabilities |
• Bitbar's popularity after being featured on Hacker News in 2016 |
• Mat Ryer's current use of Bitbar and its ongoing development |
• The Hacker News post about a plugin ecosystem for a specific tool led to a surge in contributors and a community of users. |
• The ease of contributing to the project, including the ability to see immediate results, was a key factor in its success. |
• The original creator, Mat Ryer, attributes the project's success to a "happy accident" in its design, which allowed for a nice abstraction layer. |
• The project's popularity led to a rewrite in Go, and later, a further rewrite in a new project called Wails. |
• The Wails project allows for building desktop applications using JavaScript as the frontend and Go as the backend, with a native-like appearance. |
• Mat Ryer and the Wails creator, Lee Anthony, discussed the possibility of creating a desktop app for the original project, but it was eventually discontinued due to lack of contributors and maintenance issues. |
• Discussing the benefits of rewriting code, with a focus on the xbar project |
• The importance of backwards compatibility in code rewrites |
• The concept of a "prototype" or "first version" of code, and the idea of iterating and improving upon it |
• The parallel between writing code and writing words, and the idea that rewrites are a natural part of the creative process |
• The benefits of a rewrite in terms of learning and improving upon initial ideas |
• The future of the xbar project, including its potential to become cross-platform and the need to adapt plugins to new platforms |
• The design of the xbar API and the use of metadata to handle platform-specific plugins. |
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