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[405.26 --> 410.16] And so when you update your container, all your dependencies are thrown away.
[410.16 --> 414.56] We make sure you have the latest and greatest dependencies all work together.
[414.56 --> 417.82] And that way it just works.
[418.16 --> 418.74] Yeah, that makes sense.
[419.06 --> 423.64] I can see how that also is just much more manageable and supportable by you guys as well.
[423.80 --> 426.68] And I got to say, you know, on the blue, it's working really great.
[426.80 --> 431.14] I kind of am, I'm a user of both use cases, just the core version and the whole OS stack.
[431.42 --> 434.32] And I do really like the snapshots.
[434.46 --> 439.82] I feel like the more recent updates that have also set it so you can have a snapshot right before you upgrade is brilliant.
[439.96 --> 441.72] All that kind of stuff just keeps getting better.
[441.72 --> 445.50] Yeah, and I think, you know, the features are really driven.
[446.20 --> 448.40] You know, we look at the way people use Home Assistant.
[448.70 --> 452.76] And we look at the issues we see on our forums and on our Discord.
[453.08 --> 456.00] And then we just ask ourselves, like, why is this?
[456.12 --> 458.44] What can we do to make it easier and better?
[458.64 --> 461.88] And we just constantly try to, like, kind of tackle this.
[461.88 --> 471.52] And, you know, we're really focused on making Home Assistant easier to use while still also, you know, making sure that our power users, of course, can do their things.
[472.16 --> 474.76] And, you know, it's been really paying off.
[474.80 --> 479.40] I think that, like, we launched Home Assistant Analytics, like, a month ago, two months ago already.
[479.40 --> 479.72] Right?
[480.40 --> 484.82] And I think, like, around, we didn't do much promo, but, like, 45,000 people have opted in.
[485.20 --> 488.70] And you can actually see our operating system is, like, 65% of our users.
[488.92 --> 489.38] Oh, okay.
[489.76 --> 491.60] I mean, that was pretty unexpected.
[492.08 --> 493.86] Like, we knew it was high.
[494.02 --> 497.82] I think, you know, internally we were like, ah, that's probably, like, 50%.
[497.82 --> 499.48] But it's actually 65%.
[499.48 --> 503.26] And I also understand it because it's just convenience, right?
[503.26 --> 507.96] Like, if you want to be a system administrator at home, you can be, of course.
[508.04 --> 511.64] But if you want to be, like, automating your home, you can be that, too.
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[525.12 --> 528.80] And, sure, maybe ultimately you decide to self-host something on your LAN.
[528.80 --> 538.90] But every now and then, and that's more and more these days, there's a job that's really perfect out in the cloud on a service provider you can trust and you have full control.
[539.24 --> 545.58] That's one of the things I like about Linode is, unlike entry-level hosting services, they don't try to lock you into their platform with gimmicks.
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[588.96 --> 593.26] And that $100 credit means you can play around with all kinds of different hardware and configuration stacks,
[593.42 --> 595.26] which has been a massive advantage for me.
[595.70 --> 600.20] Before I deploy something in production, I'll sometimes spin up a couple of versions of it on different stacks.
[600.52 --> 602.62] You know, maybe this one's on Nginx and this one's on Apache.
[602.78 --> 603.62] Maybe this one's on Ubuntu.
[603.76 --> 604.80] Maybe this one's on CentOS.
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[606.86 --> 608.52] And then I'll just keep the winner and destroy the others.
[608.52 --> 614.28] That kind of flexibility and not having to mess around with some slow VM software on my laptop to test that stuff out.
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[637.52 --> 644.74] Yes, I mean, Home Assistant's been headed down the more turnkey route for quite a while now.
[645.26 --> 648.92] And I think HASSOS is, or am I calling it the right thing?
[649.04 --> 650.76] I'm still confused by the name change.
[651.76 --> 655.10] It's been headed down the turnkey route for quite a while.
[655.90 --> 657.76] What else do you have planned in that space?
[657.84 --> 660.36] I mean, there's been a lot of work around automations recently,
[660.36 --> 664.32] as well as some other aspects of the experience.
[664.32 --> 668.30] So I think that our goal really, like in the longer term,
[668.34 --> 674.88] is that we want to make sure that a lot of people have access to having like great home automation at home
[674.88 --> 677.72] that, you know, focuses on local control and privacy.
[677.94 --> 681.44] And so having Home Assistant be accessible is important to us.
[681.50 --> 685.86] But for example, we've also, you know, the company behind Home Assistant,
[685.86 --> 689.08] my company, Nabucasa, we've also recently acquired ESP Home.
[689.82 --> 694.20] ESP Home is a firmware for ESP devices that runs on a,
[694.58 --> 698.50] which is a firmware that can run on a lot of products that come from China,
[698.66 --> 700.82] like light switches, lights.
[700.82 --> 705.38] And with ESP Home, we are also trying to make it easier for people to get,
[705.64 --> 711.52] you know, access to devices that work locally and work private and work with Home Assistant.
[712.52 --> 716.24] So yeah, our long-term goal is really just to make it accessible to everybody.
[716.38 --> 720.82] And I think that launching hardware was a really obvious step.
[721.08 --> 725.68] I feel that for a long time, I didn't want to go down that route because logistics,
[726.00 --> 727.50] just like all that stuff.
[727.50 --> 731.04] But at the end of the day, we were looking at it and we were like,
[731.32 --> 733.76] we've been working on making it so much easier to use.
[734.04 --> 737.78] But then the first step of instructions is download Etcher,
[737.98 --> 740.18] download this image and flash it to an SD card.
[740.42 --> 742.36] And most people don't even know those words.
[743.06 --> 743.74] Yeah, it's true.
[744.16 --> 747.48] That has me thinking about something like, you know, the Made for iPhone program?
[747.74 --> 747.92] Yeah.
[748.06 --> 752.32] Makes me think with ESP Home in particular, I know it's aimed primarily at hackers
[752.32 --> 756.60] and people that want to build and make and solder and all that kind of stuff.
[756.60 --> 759.04] But it's got me thinking, it's acquisition of ESP Home.
[759.16 --> 761.36] Why isn't there a Made for Home Assistant program?