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[1400.92 --> 1401.88] Portainer was pretty neat. |
[1401.94 --> 1403.46] Now, if you're not familiar with Portainer, |
[1403.62 --> 1407.20] it is a web UI that sits on top of, |
[1407.24 --> 1407.94] it runs in Docker, |
[1408.12 --> 1409.78] and it sits on top of your Docker host, |
[1409.86 --> 1412.12] or it can connect to a remote Docker system |
[1412.12 --> 1414.18] either via the Docker API |
[1414.18 --> 1416.06] or their Portainer agent, |
[1416.46 --> 1418.76] or just through direct Azure integration, |
[1418.76 --> 1420.24] if that's your choice. |
[1420.98 --> 1424.56] And then what you get is a management GUI |
[1424.56 --> 1426.14] that's pretty sophisticated. |
[1426.62 --> 1430.44] And it substitutes some common Docker parlances |
[1430.44 --> 1433.06] like Docker compose files for Portainer stacks |
[1433.06 --> 1435.04] and things like that. |
[1435.04 --> 1437.60] And it gives you a way to visualize |
[1437.60 --> 1440.74] everything going on Docker-wise on your system. |
[1441.12 --> 1443.02] And you can look at multiple systems. |
[1443.14 --> 1444.24] So that's one thing that's kind of nice |
[1444.24 --> 1446.02] is you can install Portainer like I did |
[1446.02 --> 1447.26] to my compute module four |
[1447.26 --> 1449.46] on my OpenSeus Dumbleweed install. |
[1449.90 --> 1453.38] And then I added other remote Docker hosts |
[1453.38 --> 1454.72] to that Portainer instance. |
[1454.88 --> 1455.92] And that's kind of nice, right? |
[1455.98 --> 1456.54] I like that. |
[1457.38 --> 1462.64] And I tried really hard to love it |
[1462.64 --> 1463.30] because I thought, |
[1463.80 --> 1464.98] boy, wouldn't it be neat |
[1464.98 --> 1467.64] that to just bring all of the JB systems |
[1467.64 --> 1471.64] into one Portainer management instance |
[1471.64 --> 1474.22] and keep tabs on all of them? |
[1474.26 --> 1474.80] Because in total, |
[1475.14 --> 1475.82] I mean, I don't know, |
[1475.90 --> 1477.80] 30, 40 containers of different applications |
[1477.80 --> 1478.96] that we're running. |
[1479.88 --> 1482.86] I would say 70% of those |
[1482.86 --> 1485.38] are for behind-the-scenes software |
[1485.38 --> 1487.18] that we use to produce the shows. |
[1487.42 --> 1488.66] Maybe 60%. |
[1488.66 --> 1493.56] And I don't know how diligent we are |
[1493.56 --> 1496.74] about staying on top of those updates. |
[1496.94 --> 1499.06] We are good about the public-facing stuff, |
[1499.10 --> 1501.04] but not so good about the internal stuff. |
[1501.04 --> 1502.62] And so I kind of like the idea |
[1502.62 --> 1503.56] of just bringing it all under |
[1503.56 --> 1505.42] one management roof. |
[1506.62 --> 1508.30] But man, you know, Alex, |
[1508.54 --> 1509.14] and I don't know, |
[1509.48 --> 1510.64] I know you don't have the love |
[1510.64 --> 1511.94] for Portainer either, |
[1512.00 --> 1514.44] but I found it frustrating |
[1514.44 --> 1515.80] and tedious to use. |
[1516.38 --> 1517.42] You know, I have to, |
[1517.46 --> 1518.48] say on my remote systems, |
[1518.54 --> 1519.94] I have to enable Docker Swarm. |
[1520.30 --> 1521.62] I have to install their agent. |
[1521.80 --> 1522.66] You have to have Docker |
[1522.66 --> 1523.74] of a certain version. |
[1523.94 --> 1525.00] So immediately that means |
[1525.00 --> 1526.30] some rail boxes are out. |
[1526.30 --> 1529.26] And I found the entire thing |
[1529.26 --> 1532.72] to just be about 15 layers of lacquer |
[1532.72 --> 1534.22] on top of something |
[1534.22 --> 1538.00] that I just didn't need anything. |
[1538.18 --> 1539.92] It's like it was too complicated |
[1539.92 --> 1540.88] for what I need |
[1540.88 --> 1542.40] and also too restrictive |
[1542.40 --> 1543.34] at the same time. |
[1543.46 --> 1545.46] And it felt like a lot of fuss |
[1545.46 --> 1546.54] to get it up and going. |
[1546.76 --> 1548.90] And I don't really see it scaling out |
[1548.90 --> 1549.76] itself long-term |
[1549.76 --> 1550.46] without getting to like |
[1550.46 --> 1552.52] some paid version of Portainer, |
[1552.70 --> 1554.46] which I really have zero interest in doing. |
[1554.46 --> 1555.86] And so I found myself |
[1555.86 --> 1557.00] sort of hitting the walls |
[1557.00 --> 1557.56] of using it |
[1557.56 --> 1558.86] within the first couple of days. |
[1559.00 --> 1560.58] And I felt bad |
[1560.58 --> 1563.06] because we've gotten |
[1563.06 --> 1564.16] so many positive emails |
[1564.16 --> 1565.78] from the audience about it. |
[1565.98 --> 1567.18] I really wanted to love it. |
[1567.20 --> 1568.12] And I thought I'd figured out |
[1568.12 --> 1569.00] my angle on it. |
[1569.18 --> 1570.22] And at the end of it, |
[1570.24 --> 1570.52] I thought, |
[1570.58 --> 1571.82] I'm not going to use this. |
[1572.08 --> 1573.44] I just don't like it. |
[1573.58 --> 1574.84] And I'm curious to know |
[1574.84 --> 1576.70] why it didn't stick for you. |
[1577.42 --> 1578.74] Well, they do offer a paid service. |
[1579.52 --> 1580.70] You know, their business model |
[1580.70 --> 1581.44] from the beginning |
[1581.44 --> 1584.38] has been their community edition. |
[1584.90 --> 1586.02] Is available for free. |
[1586.16 --> 1587.54] And then you have a business edition as well, |
[1587.56 --> 1589.22] which probably has extra Chrome |
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