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[534.32 --> 541.80] And what I would say is if you've got no backup, I mean, literally zero, don't try and aim for perfect.
[541.80 --> 553.66] Just get a 128 gig USB stick off Amazon and then just get in the habit of downloading your data once a month, once a year even.
[553.94 --> 559.84] Because I'm sure right now you wish you'd had something, even if it was 11 months old, you'd have something.
[559.84 --> 571.82] Something I've seen really common is a lot of people these days, when they have cheap cloud hosting, they're going for like a NUC with a disk hanging off it or something that they're syncing to locally.
[572.04 --> 576.72] And getting that peace of mind by having the data on their local network.
[576.72 --> 583.72] And I got to admit, it's kind of what I did for the Jupyter Broadcasting stuff is we have NextCloud up at Linode.
[583.88 --> 589.82] And then we have NextCloud installed on the server at the Jupyter Broadcasting Studio on the LAN.
[590.22 --> 593.48] And we sync the stuff that I really care about.
[593.58 --> 596.02] We don't sync everything because it's hundreds of gigs.
[596.32 --> 600.42] But locally, we actually will also archive.
[600.62 --> 603.88] So I should probably back up the studio server now that I think about it.
[603.88 --> 609.10] But we back up the cloud locally to anything that's not ephemeral.
[609.36 --> 611.22] And anything that's not ephemeral, we try to keep locally.
[611.46 --> 615.14] And then my intention is to back that server up somewhere.
[616.00 --> 618.70] Alex's house, Backblaze, I don't know what.
[618.88 --> 620.86] But I've got the cloud part covered.
[621.16 --> 623.98] I just don't necessarily have the local part fully covered right now.
[624.18 --> 629.94] Because I ended up, and this is sort of where I connected with what Carrie was saying, is I just ended up with terabytes of data.
[630.60 --> 630.92] Terabytes.
[630.92 --> 634.66] And I don't know, I don't really know how to even get that offsite over the wire.
[634.76 --> 635.32] It's so much data.
[636.14 --> 644.08] Never underestimate, I think the saying goes, the bandwidth of a truck driving down a highway full of hard drives.
[644.74 --> 646.72] Get it on a hard drive and mail it to me.
[646.82 --> 647.72] That's the best way.
[647.94 --> 652.04] What you're saying is I should pack up the RV and drive a hard drive down to your place.
[652.62 --> 653.90] That makes the most sense, right?
[653.94 --> 654.76] You can if you want.
[654.92 --> 656.50] $3,000 backup trip.
[656.50 --> 660.78] But, you know, so that's something we all struggle with.
[660.78 --> 670.00] But you remember when we went and saw Wendell, how he was implementing at his data center on his LAN, he was backing up his place was nuts.
[670.12 --> 670.24] Yeah.
[670.30 --> 675.38] And he was backing up his client's cloud data for them to his servers, just in case their cloud providers had issues.
[676.10 --> 681.28] It's something you do kind of have to think about is when I'm building something, what is the risk to losing this?
[681.28 --> 688.70] Like there's some things I have on the cloud that if they were lost, it'd be inconvenient, but we could regenerate from source material.
[689.68 --> 690.50] Not everything.
[690.92 --> 691.00] Yeah.
[691.16 --> 698.28] It is about evaluating the, I don't want to say like opportunity cost or whatever, but everything has a cost.
[698.82 --> 702.76] And, you know, photos, for example, are irreplaceable.
[702.98 --> 705.28] You can't recreate those moments, videos, whatever.
[705.28 --> 717.66] But, you know, a PDF with an invoice of some work you did 10 years ago, maybe that, okay, it might be nice to have it, but that's all just nice.
[717.66 --> 738.84] But, you know, the cost of a one-time backup offsite to a pen drive or something like that is so small compared to the amount, just the amount of time you're going to spend noodling after you've lost some data whilst you reconstruct what was actually on that file system and remember, oh yeah, that ...
[738.90 --> 739.82] I lost that too.
[740.06 --> 743.40] And some of that stuff won't occur to you until years later.
[743.82 --> 744.40] That's very true.
[744.40 --> 749.28] And it feels so, you just feel like you've, like somebody's cut a hole out of you sometimes.
[749.64 --> 759.40] And I think that, especially when it comes to the pictures, I have opted to leave on for the iPhone members of my family our iCloud photo backup for everybody.
[759.88 --> 762.70] I even ended up paying for like some sort of family storage plan.
[762.84 --> 772.32] So that way I knew, because my mom's on there and, you know, my wife, and I just wanted to know that everybody's photos were backed up, even though I also back them up.
[772.32 --> 782.32] My phone, every picture I take goes off to Nextcloud in 100% quality, but Google Photos also duplicates everything.
[782.68 --> 789.78] I'm off the Google Photos sauce because I'm using the iCloud photo, but it's like, you know, trading one service for the other.
[789.78 --> 798.10] I mean, there are arguments to be made for Google's privacy policies versus Apple's, but I'm not sure I fully trust either, to be honest with you.
[798.42 --> 799.12] Yeah, yeah.
[799.22 --> 803.36] I mean, I'm kind of gambling that Apple's are a little better and that they're not mining it for data, but...
[803.36 --> 804.42] No, make no mistake, bro.
[804.54 --> 806.18] Apple are mining you for your cash.
[806.44 --> 806.80] Right.
[807.00 --> 807.44] No kidding.
[807.66 --> 808.10] No kidding.
[808.10 --> 814.30] And we have talked about Google Photos alternatives, and it's not that I'm not going to implement one of those.
[814.34 --> 815.36] That's actually been my intention.
[815.90 --> 821.36] But I still feel like I get some value out of just paying Apple to back that thing up because they are so valuable.
[821.98 --> 823.52] And that's really, photos are it.
[823.72 --> 827.08] Like, pretty much everything else, I'm comfortable how I back it up.
[827.82 --> 830.44] Although I know there's a couple of areas that I could probably do better.
[830.64 --> 835.66] I mean, do you feel like there's an area where if you were to audit your backups right now, you'd look at it and go, oh, no, Alex, you got to fix it.
[835.66 --> 836.60] Yeah, I do.
[837.20 --> 840.32] So the last couple of months have been a bit crazy for me.
[840.38 --> 847.46] My wife and I had our first daughter, and she came a little bit early, and she spent a couple of months in the hospital.
[848.20 --> 851.56] So things have kind of been decaying whilst I've been there.
[852.06 --> 854.34] Congratulations, an official on-show congratulations.
[854.66 --> 854.86] Yay.
[855.92 --> 856.28] Yay.
[857.00 --> 859.98] I've known, but this is the first time you've said anything on the show, so it's exciting.
[859.98 --> 863.88] Yeah, I didn't want to go public until she was home, just in case, because, anyway.
[864.66 --> 868.64] She's home, she's healthy, everything's good with the world.
[869.02 --> 875.80] So, yeah, I purchased the Helios as to be my on-site replication backup device.
[875.96 --> 876.10] Right.
[876.10 --> 888.52] And then when everything went down in January, and Ella was born, I was in the middle of rebuilding my server at that point, because that's when the whole GVTG thing started playing up and not working quite as I'd hoped.
[888.68 --> 895.66] So, you know, I was at the hospital most of the day, but I'd come back here for two or three hours just to unwind and just mess around with hardware and stuff.
[895.66 --> 899.06] And I never quite got to putting my backups back in place.
[899.16 --> 902.24] And it's one of those things you think, oh, I'll get to it, I'll get to it.
[902.26 --> 906.00] And then before you know it, a year later, you have a problem, you think, crap.
[906.44 --> 907.20] I never got to it.
[908.56 --> 908.90] Yeah.
[908.90 --> 914.94] I do have plans, which we'll share with you soon, as to what's going to replace the Helios in that situation.
[915.20 --> 923.68] But I'm tight-lipped for now, but we do have an upcoming segment on backups that will hopefully give you some ideas and inspiration.
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