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[1312.20 --> 1319.08] There's a higher threat level, a broader threat attack surface, if you will. |
[1319.14 --> 1325.28] And so I feel like you have to be a little more secure when you are willing to ride the IoT train, you know? |
[1325.28 --> 1330.26] Because the problem is any one of those individual devices one day could become compromised. |
[1330.54 --> 1333.98] And then that becomes a launching off point where they can go after other devices on your LAN. |
[1334.04 --> 1335.34] And we see it happen. |
[1335.84 --> 1342.18] And to that point, Troy actually makes this point in his article that LinkedIn, I mean, we're talking a proper website here, |
[1343.06 --> 1348.64] had a data breach because one of their developers' home networks had a weak SSH password, |
[1348.64 --> 1356.04] which allowed people to pivot through that developer's home network into LinkedIn servers and compromise LinkedIn that way. |
[1356.48 --> 1357.82] Yeah, they brute forced his iMac. |
[1357.96 --> 1363.58] And so, you know, I put myself in that developer's shoes and I think, well, holy crap, someone could pivot into Red Hat from here. |
[1363.62 --> 1364.94] And I wouldn't want that. |
[1365.12 --> 1368.96] So I think to myself, OK, actually, Troy, you've probably got a point here. |
[1369.00 --> 1370.74] I do need to step up my game. |
[1370.74 --> 1372.72] And he uses 1Password. |
[1372.82 --> 1374.80] I think he's on the advisory board for 1Password. |
[1375.02 --> 1377.66] But we talked last episode about Bitwarden. |
[1378.20 --> 1385.34] And I really cannot emphasize enough, you know, there are command line clients and stuff like that that you can use. |
[1385.38 --> 1388.98] So you can put it in scripts and do all sorts of fun stuff if you want to. |
[1389.10 --> 1399.78] And I think that's going to have to become a 2021 rather late New Year's resolution for me is to try and use that CLI stuff more on my LAN at least. |
[1399.78 --> 1404.22] Yeah, good passwords, I think, matter when we're kind of riding the cutting edge of technology. |
[1404.22 --> 1411.94] Even if you're not intentionally exposing your LAN to the Internet, you never know when some crazy thing could happen. |
[1412.30 --> 1413.78] It's unlikely, but it could happen. |
[1413.98 --> 1424.82] But really, you also never know if one day somebody's going to be able to rock up onto your Wi-Fi or something or somebody joins your LAN that you put on intentionally, but they have some misconfiguration or infection. |
[1424.82 --> 1430.32] So it's kind of like multiple layers of protecting yourself is the best kind of protection. |
[1430.58 --> 1438.78] And I think when you look at logins, you could look at maybe not only unique passwords, but when possible, also using keys to do SSH sign-ins. |
[1438.98 --> 1440.80] So that way you have to have maybe a key and a password. |
[1441.18 --> 1442.98] And that just takes it a little bit step further. |
[1442.98 --> 1451.64] Like that LinkedIn developer, if he had had a decent password or password and a key, then the attackers would have never gotten onto his iMac and then never gotten into LinkedIn. |
[1452.12 --> 1465.80] And when the whole COVID lockdown thing started and we had a lot more people all of a sudden working from home, that was one of my first concerns is, well, now all of these corporations are as insecure as people's home networks are. |
[1465.80 --> 1468.46] And you never know when that could be an issue as well. |
[1468.60 --> 1475.92] I just think as much of a pain in the arse as it is, there's enough tools and we know enough information now that it's worth doing. |
[1476.22 --> 1483.10] The only thing I would have changed with how Home Assistant has implemented this is give me an option to turn it off for a bit. |
[1483.82 --> 1486.16] You know, I'm not fixing it while I'm out here in the woods. |
[1486.94 --> 1490.32] Silence that checkbox for seven days or something, you know. |
[1490.56 --> 1493.38] Or until next update even, you know, that could work too. |
[1493.38 --> 1497.86] I do believe they're actually working on making it opt-in or opt-out now. |
[1498.38 --> 1503.54] So for what it's worth, the outrage has had some effect on the feature. |
[1504.24 --> 1505.44] But I mean, I think it's great. |
[1505.56 --> 1510.76] I think anything that we can do, and here's another point about the Home Assistant community being a special case as well, |
[1511.48 --> 1517.98] is a lot of people are coming to servers for the first time because of Home Assistant. |
[1517.98 --> 1522.78] They're running a box in their house for the first time that's got SSH listening on something. |
[1523.38 --> 1524.90] Maybe for the first time ever. |
[1525.84 --> 1533.60] And anything that Home Assistant can do for those kind of newer users that aren't, you know, |
[1534.00 --> 1541.10] enterprise-grade buffoons like me that just reminds them that, hold on, you know, |
[1541.14 --> 1546.02] if you're exposing your house to the internet through Nebukassar, through WireGuard, |
[1546.16 --> 1548.86] through whatever it might be, there is some risk. |
[1548.86 --> 1555.28] And then when you couple that up with some leaky washing machine that's running an old firmware from eight years ago, |
[1556.14 --> 1557.62] there are risks to these things. |
[1557.68 --> 1562.00] And I, for one, applaud the Home Assistant project for having the stones to put this in. |
[1562.00 --> 1562.36] Yeah. |
[1562.66 --> 1568.00] And it definitely, I think, will improve the community security overall, which is a good thing for them. |
[1568.56 --> 1572.96] And as they make this a commercial product one day, because you know this has got to be the direction this thing's going, |
[1573.04 --> 1579.54] when they try to make it a consumer product and not just a, you know, a more advanced prosumer or enthusiast product. |
[1579.84 --> 1580.52] Nerd product. |
[1580.84 --> 1581.54] Go on, you should say it. |
[1581.66 --> 1582.20] Nerd product. |
[1582.48 --> 1583.58] It's a nerd product right now. |
[1583.58 --> 1589.24] But one day, maybe one day they're going to try to sell it to average Joes who have bought all these smart devices. |
[1589.24 --> 1591.26] And now they just need something to make it all work together. |
[1591.72 --> 1594.30] And, you know, buy the $100 Home Assistant appliance. |
[1594.60 --> 1596.22] And you need these kind of things built in. |
[1596.70 --> 1600.76] And they just recently had a run-in with add-ons that were leaking information. |
[1600.76 --> 1603.04] So I could see why this is an area they're investing into. |
[1603.50 --> 1604.52] And I say good on them. |
[1604.68 --> 1606.42] And I think it'll be a smooth transition. |
[1606.42 --> 1614.08] There is also something worth looking into is they're working with K-Anonemy, which is a Cloudflare-hosted service. |
[1614.30 --> 1617.62] So Cloudflare is kind of proxying some of these requests to anonymize them. |
[1617.92 --> 1620.74] That's also made some people uncomfortable in all of this. |
[1621.18 --> 1622.54] But I did a read-through of the setup. |
[1622.66 --> 1626.08] And it actually, it seems like they've done a really, really solid job here. |
[1626.20 --> 1632.08] So we'll have a link in the show notes at selfhosted.show.40 for the Cloudflare information on that. |
[1632.08 --> 1637.48] And if that has also perhaps gotten the hairs on the back of your neck up a little bit, it's worth reading about. |
[1637.56 --> 1638.26] We'll have information. |
[1638.80 --> 1643.48] I'm super curious to hear what you all do for your local LAN password situations. |
[1643.64 --> 1644.80] Do you use a password manager? |
[1645.38 --> 1648.78] Are you like me and reuse the same password on every box? |
[1649.66 --> 1650.16] Let us know. |
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