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It took me a long time to figure that out, because you're not looking at the headers when you're looking at the response codes, and you look at the header -- you're a lot like a browser, right? When I see a 301 or a 302, then I look at the location header. But otherwise, I didn't realize "No, the location header is bei... |
Lots of detail there, lots of little Fastly changes... Talking about testing in production - like, "Well, I'm gonna roll this one out real quick and see if that works", and scripting up requests to hit all the endpoints that I wanna make sure they had the right responses... But got that fixed, and now we're 100%, every... |
**Gerhard Lazu:** That's right. I remember experimenting with this in production, and the last time when I've done this - I think i was like a year ago - I introduced at least an hour's worth of downtime... And it wasn't like constant downtime, which I think is more manageable; it was flaky downtime. It'd be down for f... |
So this time around I used another domain, which I just had sitting... Because each and every one of us has at least ten domains that we bought, but don't use... |
**Jerod Santo:** Right. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** So I had one of those, and I tried setting a new Fastly service and configuring a few things, but I missed this... This one thing which was setting the location header, but the status code was wrong, I missed. So you're very welcome for that surprise... \[laughs\] |
**Jerod Santo:** Right. \[laughs\] |
**Gerhard Lazu:** It was like, "How sharp is Jerod? Can he figure this one out?" No, I didn't think that. |
**Jerod Santo:** Well, what's funny - there's like a bias when you're going into somebody else's work, where with myself I always know my incompetence... But when I'm editing your work, I'm assuming every change is fully competent, with full knowledge... You know, I just give you way more respect than I give myself, so... |
**Gerhard Lazu:** I really appreciate that, by the way, the respect part; thank you very much, Jerod. \[laughs\] That means a lot. But I do make mistakes, actually a lot... So a lot of the time I fix them so quickly that people don't even know I've made them. But trust me-- |
**Jerod Santo:** That's the key right there. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** ...mistakes - there's so many I make. All the time, every single day. Hundreds and hundreds of them. Because it's essential to learning. Experimenting. At least that's how I see it. |
**Jerod Santo:** So when you were describing your DNSimple findings earlier in the conversation, and now we have you guilty again, it reminds me of this amazing quote by Filipe Fortes. I'm not sure if he originated this or if he just has the tweet... But he says "Debugging is like being the detective in a crime movie w... |
**Gerhard Lazu:** That's exactly what it feels like. "I murdered the infrastructure. It's my fault, and I have to fix it. I messed it up. \[laughs\] Why, Kubernetes, why?!" |
**Adam Stacoviak:** There's three people here... That closes the loop too, your mention of the extra domains hanging around and testing them, because I was like "What is that weird domain in Fastly?" |
**Gerhard Lazu:** Yeah. Do you remember which one it was? Do you still remember it? It's a very special domain. That's my future. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Well, I didn't wanna call it out and dox you in case it was private, or something like that... |
**Gerhard Lazu:** No, it's okay... It's my surname. But the TLD means a lot to me... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Gotcha. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** Do you wanna check it out real quick? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Well, I was like, "What is this domain doing there?" It was interesting. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** Yeah. It is a special one, I have to say. It is the future. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I went to it too, and I don't recall it being memorable in terms of going to it... I think it actually just said like -- yeah, "Pong." That's right. |
**Jerod Santo:** It just replies with Pong when you go there? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** \[28:10\] Yeah. Ping Pong, yeah. That's like an Erlang joke. Or not like an Erlang joke, but whenever you ping nodes, they respond with pong. And they respond Pang if they can't ping other nodes... So yeah, it's very relevant to the Changelog infrastructure and our app... But anyways. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I checked it out, I was like "What is this domain?" I'm like, "That's weird. Okay... Surely, Gerhard must know what he's doing..." \[laughs\] |
**Jerod Santo:** I knew exactly what it was. As soon as I saw Lazu, I was like, "Oh, he's got a test domain out there he's been trying to futz with." Because it is kind of -- I mean, when you're basically editing Varnish cache configs via a web interface... And they have some nice tools for diffing, and they'll do a st... |
**Gerhard Lazu:** That's right. |
**Jerod Santo:** So that was a good move. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** That's exactly like -- okay, so the domain is lazu.ch. And ch is really special to me, but we'll talk about it another time. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Like today, or a different day? |
**Gerhard Lazu:** It's up to you. You ask me the question, okay? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** What .ch do you mean? Let's resolve this now. What is it? |
**Gerhard Lazu:** Okay. So ch is a TLD for Switzerland. Switzerland is a really special place for me. It's the one place where I feel like home; it doesn't matter when I go, whether it's summer, whether it's winter... Every single opportunity I have to go there, I go there. DevOps Days Zurich happens today, and I think... |
**Jerod Santo:** Yeah, I saw some of your recent Insta posts, or your wife's posts as you guys were vacationing there, and I was like, "Their vacations look amazing. They're really good at photography and great locations", you know? |
**Gerhard Lazu:** Yeah. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** And there was nobody else around. It was just you. You had the mountains to yourselves. You essentially owned them. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** Yeah. It's not many people out there, because it's so big and wild... |
**Jerod Santo:** Pretty cool. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** And yes, you have to reach these spots, but you get some nice and quiet places. You can be walking for hours and not see another soul... It's great. I love it there. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** Anyways, coming back to the issue at hand - this ClickOps, Dan Mangum, in episode 15... |
**Jerod Santo:** Yes, ClickOps. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** He mentions it. That's a great one. |
**Jerod Santo:** I love that. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** Yeah. We were meant to write - or at least attempt to start - a Fastly provider for Crossplane. Didn't have time; too many things happened. But we must, must version control and GitOps our Fastly config. ClickOpsing is just - no. It's not gonna work. |
**Jerod Santo:** Plus, they have their own little version of version control in there... So I'm in there, reading your comments and seeing what you changed, and just like you would, I would love to have that with all of our existing tooling and not have to go into their web interface, and blah-blah-blah. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** Yeah, I mean, that's one thing. And I think this ClickOps nature of Fastly makes it easy to make certain mistakes, and it makes it more difficult to experiment easier... So experimenting is a little bit harder in how we create the surveys; I have to combine things... You can't just put everything toge... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** So just to call it out for the listeners - if you're listening to this and you're curious what the deeper story is, episode 15, ClickOps, Dan Mangum... |
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