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[2599.40 --> 2605.66] And once I had that, I found the extra properties, especially around auto scaling, very, very useful. |
[2605.90 --> 2606.98] So I love seeing that. |
[2607.14 --> 2608.98] It was a great end state to get to. |
[2608.98 --> 2615.36] So as we are about to wrap this up, anything coming in the next six months that you'd like to share with us? |
[2615.36 --> 2620.72] So I'll talk a little bit about some of the future things that we have planned for Crossplane. |
[2620.92 --> 2626.16] And some of this, you know, Crossplane, as we all know here, is a CNCF project, right? |
[2626.22 --> 2631.12] So when I talk about what I want to see in Crossplane, that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to happen. |
[2631.44 --> 2636.50] It's my personal desire for what happens and my contribution to the roadmap as a maintainer. |
[2636.50 --> 2641.52] So, you know, we'll see how other maintainers and other community members feel about my proposals. |
[2642.00 --> 2646.66] But one of the things that I am really interested in is our provider deployment model. |
[2646.86 --> 2653.70] So right now, the way provider packages work is it's essentially a stream of YAML, which is a bunch of different CRDs. |
[2653.70 --> 2666.32] And then it's a reference to an image that lives, you know, on a registry somewhere or is already in your cluster that you run, that runs the controllers for all of those different resource types that you're installing. |
[2666.82 --> 2672.66] Now, the way that we actually set up that controller for you when you install a provider is we create a Kubernetes deployment. |
[2672.86 --> 2674.60] And that's the only way we do it right now. |
[2674.88 --> 2676.56] That doesn't have to be the case, right? |
[2676.58 --> 2679.76] A deployment is one way to manage a workload within a Kubernetes cluster. |
[2680.18 --> 2682.30] You could also create a Knative function. |
[2682.30 --> 2685.20] You could create something external to your Kubernetes cluster. |
[2685.32 --> 2689.36] It could be a Lambda function on AWS that had access to your Kubernetes cluster. |
[2689.80 --> 2699.46] And you can also start to think of things as more granular than our kind of monolithic providers we have right now, where you can think of just custom logic that you need to run. |
[2699.54 --> 2701.62] That's kind of the glue between your different providers. |
[2702.26 --> 2704.74] So those are a lot of different options. |
[2704.74 --> 2709.28] But essentially, you can imagine there is an interface, right, for different provider deployment models. |
[2709.28 --> 2713.62] And you can say, I'd like to use my provider and install my provider. |
[2714.00 --> 2718.24] And I wanted Crossplane to use this deployment engine for it to set that up. |
[2718.34 --> 2719.76] And I can manage it in a certain way. |
[2720.06 --> 2725.50] What that also gives you the ability to do is you may not manage your core Crossplane control plane, |
[2725.72 --> 2729.54] but you may manage some of the custom logic that you want to introduce into it. |
[2729.54 --> 2737.66] So obviously, thinking of a hosted control plane model, you can think about that an external organization could run your control plane for you. |
[2737.88 --> 2745.46] But you kind of do that last mile API interaction where you supply credentials and that sort of thing on your own infrastructure and your own AWS account. |
[2745.88 --> 2749.82] So thinking about some flexibility around that and some partitioning as well. |
[2749.82 --> 2753.92] Right now, when you install provider AWS, you get all of the provider types installed. |
[2754.30 --> 2755.70] You really shouldn't have to do that. |
[2756.04 --> 2766.10] And so really customizing and making more granular provider installs and API extension mechanisms are something that's going to be top of mind for me over the next six months to a year. |
[2766.30 --> 2768.50] I have so many questions to that. |
[2768.64 --> 2773.10] We are out of time, but I really want to hear what Jared is thinking about for the next six months. |
[2773.50 --> 2773.84] Awesome. |
[2774.00 --> 2774.20] Yes. |
[2774.20 --> 2780.98] Quick thing for Dan there is that, you know, you kind of mentioned that it's a community driven project and, you know, he has his own proposals, etc. |
[2781.50 --> 2784.18] And the community can always weigh in and see if they are good ideas. |
[2784.62 --> 2789.28] Historically speaking, the Dan's proposals tend to be pretty well accepted and good ideas. |
[2789.74 --> 2792.92] So what he's saying there probably will be something the community likes. |
[2793.38 --> 2793.48] Yeah. |
[2793.50 --> 2797.54] So for me, I'll just quickly throw in two things that I think are really exciting over the next six months. |
[2797.92 --> 2800.64] They're provider coverage and then custom compositions. |
[2800.94 --> 2804.06] So provider coverage, we'll have a lot more to share about that pretty soon. |
[2804.20 --> 2813.04] But basically doing, you know, code generation to automatically generate cross-plane providers for the full surface area of a cloud providers API. |
[2813.42 --> 2815.94] You know, like AWS has like almost 700 resources. |
[2815.94 --> 2824.46] So being able to have a cross-plane provider to do all of those resources and have, you know, very full coverage is very, very exciting. |
[2824.58 --> 2825.76] And that's coming along pretty soon. |
[2825.76 --> 2827.78] And then the other one, custom compositions. |
[2828.26 --> 2837.60] You know, the composition engine is fairly powerful where you can compose together all of your resources and infrastructure and then provide those as a high level abstraction to your developers. |
[2837.60 --> 2838.60] It's a powerful model. |
[2838.60 --> 2839.28] It's a powerful model. |
[2839.40 --> 2841.60] But then there's some things we can do to improve that. |
[2841.90 --> 2851.74] If you want to do some custom logic or, you know, templating or, you know, flow control or anything like that, we're enabling a way to do that with the language of your choice. |
[2851.74 --> 2868.84] So to be able to kind of extend the composition engine and be able to write however you want to, whatever language you want to, some logic and, you know, details about generating custom compositions at runtime, which will kind of open the door to really any scenario that anyone can think of. |
[2869.00 --> 2874.44] So that'll be a nice kind of last mile thing for scenarios that aren't really covered with the default machinery right now. |
[2874.44 --> 2878.40] Well, all I can say is please continue blowing my mind the way you are. |
[2878.64 --> 2880.80] There's a very special way that you blow my mind. |
[2880.88 --> 2883.00] Every single time I talk to you, this is amazing. |
[2883.46 --> 2884.18] Thank you very much. |
[2884.58 --> 2886.94] The other thing which I would like to say is stay cool. |
[2887.54 --> 2893.78] Crossplane is really cool and just keep doing what you're doing and keep reconciling and enjoying KubeCon, but especially reconciling. |
[2893.90 --> 2894.60] So thank you, Dan. |
[2894.72 --> 2895.28] Thank you, Jared. |
[2895.40 --> 2896.00] This has been a pleasure. |
[2896.18 --> 2896.36] Awesome. |
[2896.54 --> 2896.86] Right on. |
[2896.92 --> 2898.40] Thank you so much for having us again, Gerhard. |
[2898.48 --> 2899.58] Always love to be on the show. |
[2899.84 --> 2900.16] Absolutely. |
[2904.44 --> 2905.44] Thank you. |
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[2948.40 --> 2962.24] So I know, David, that this is your first KubeCon. |
[2962.76 --> 2968.16] And I am very curious to hear, what was it like for you? |
[2968.16 --> 2969.32] It was very interesting. |
[2969.32 --> 2969.36] It was very interesting. |
[2969.80 --> 2975.48] So I really enjoyed the hybrid format of this KubeCon because unfortunately I couldn't be there in person. |
[2975.82 --> 2977.96] So I would like to go there in person. |
[2978.38 --> 2983.24] But unfortunately, there was still a travel ban for most Europeans. |
[2983.24 --> 2994.14] So it was still very interesting to participate virtually and to listen to talks and being able to reach out to people and to ask questions. |
[2994.64 --> 2994.92] Okay. |
[2995.08 --> 2995.94] Did you Slack? |
[2996.02 --> 2997.10] How did you reach out to people? |
[2997.22 --> 2997.64] Zoom? |
[2997.86 --> 2999.22] How did that work for you? |
[2999.46 --> 3002.50] Yes, mainly over the Meeting Play platform. |
[3002.50 --> 3007.90] So when I was attending a talk, I could just ask my questions and they got live answered. |
[3008.14 --> 3009.68] So that was a nice experience. |
[3010.02 --> 3014.62] There was the possibility to reach out via Slack, but I didn't use Slack too much. |
[3015.28 --> 3016.48] What about Zoom? |
[3016.62 --> 3019.00] Were there any Zoom sessions that you attended? |
[3019.32 --> 3021.82] I know that Priyanka used to do Happy Hour. |
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