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[93.86 --> 94.90] And they need one more thing. |
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[134.12 --> 135.16] It's go time. |
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[163.38 --> 165.04] Okay, here we go. |
[167.16 --> 170.00] Good evening, afternoon, morning, or night, |
[170.30 --> 173.74] everyone who's joining us live or listening to this later. |
[173.74 --> 178.52] This episode, Ian and me are being joined by Rona |
[178.52 --> 183.08] to talk about object-oriented programming. |
[184.04 --> 187.28] And we'll start by introducing Rona, I guess. |
[187.80 --> 190.24] Rona, you are an engineering manager at Delivery Hero, |
[190.94 --> 192.40] a Google developer expert for Go, |
[192.88 --> 195.04] a woman who Go organizer in Berlin, |
[195.86 --> 198.74] Go Times Unpopular Opinion Hall of Fame-er, |
[198.74 --> 200.94] and after 20 years in tech, |
[201.32 --> 204.04] you know that the sum of the opportunities |
[204.04 --> 206.04] that were given to you, |
[206.54 --> 209.18] this is why you're basically giving opportunity to others. |
[209.54 --> 212.14] So this is an interesting thing about your bio. |
[212.26 --> 213.86] We'll definitely ask you more about this. |
[214.34 --> 216.20] Now we're here to talk about this workshop |
[216.20 --> 220.38] that you've been crafting since 2017 |
[220.38 --> 221.78] that you've been giving to your meetup |
[221.78 --> 223.66] at Women Who Go Berlin, |
[223.66 --> 226.02] the most recent one that you happened to give |
[226.02 --> 228.94] at GopherCon Europe later this month |
[228.94 --> 232.44] on the topic of actually object-oriented design in Go. |
[232.82 --> 235.32] So as a preparation for this episode, |
[235.56 --> 240.14] we were figuring out how each of us pronounces |
[240.14 --> 243.94] the short term for object-oriented programming. |
[244.66 --> 245.50] Rona, how do you say that? |
[245.78 --> 247.08] The three letters acronym. |
[247.56 --> 248.56] You mean OOP? |
[248.90 --> 249.34] OOP? |
[250.04 --> 252.26] Well, I guess it's two versus one, Ian. |
[252.26 --> 253.40] You pronounce this the same. |
[253.68 --> 254.62] Yeah, OOP, yeah. |
[254.90 --> 255.86] I have to say, |
[256.20 --> 258.36] for the past like a month or so, |
[258.42 --> 259.60] I've been writing OO, |
[260.16 --> 260.96] like a lot, |
[261.64 --> 263.30] and it looks like OO, |
[263.52 --> 265.14] like the emoji, |
[265.60 --> 267.82] and it feels very symbolic |
[267.82 --> 270.84] to the state of object-oriented. |
[271.16 --> 273.08] I somehow always thought it's OOP. |
[273.30 --> 274.02] You thought it was OOP? |
[274.26 --> 276.96] I guess it's because last time I used this term |
[276.96 --> 277.82] was in university, |
[278.12 --> 279.24] and it's been a while since. |
[279.38 --> 280.44] And you used to say OOP? |
[280.92 --> 281.96] Yeah, we used to say OOP. |
[281.96 --> 283.10] Ian, what do you say? |
[283.50 --> 284.56] I'd definitely say OOP. |
[284.78 --> 287.42] I don't think I've ever heard someone call it OOP before, |
[287.56 --> 287.86] actually, |
[287.94 --> 289.68] until 10 minutes ago. |
[290.00 --> 292.90] This is definitely a debate worth telling. |
[293.34 --> 294.96] Yeah, that can be a poll. |
[295.04 --> 298.00] Maybe this can even be my unpopular opinion in there. |
[298.16 --> 298.92] I thought I have none. |
[299.40 --> 301.36] So we can say this episode is sort of |
[301.36 --> 303.12] one big unpopular opinion |
[303.12 --> 305.08] coming with a claim, Rona, |
[305.34 --> 309.16] that Go can be an object-oriented programming language. |
[309.16 --> 310.38] Well, I mean, |
[310.62 --> 312.38] I definitely don't think it's not. |
[313.38 --> 315.62] So what happened was that |
[315.62 --> 317.30] I wanted to share with my team |
[317.30 --> 319.76] how to do object-oriented programming with Go. |
[320.20 --> 322.38] And then I kind of realized |
[322.38 --> 325.44] by looking at actual interview questions, |
[325.68 --> 326.06] answers, |
[326.36 --> 327.54] how people like feedback, |
[328.20 --> 330.50] how things are happening in my organization, |
[330.50 --> 332.32] what people think Go is |
[332.32 --> 333.54] and what people think Go isn't, |
[333.64 --> 335.32] they definitely think that Go is not |
[335.32 --> 338.20] an object-oriented programming language. |
[338.34 --> 338.96] So I decided, |
[339.14 --> 339.50] okay, |
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