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[3304.46 --> 3304.96] opinions.
[3305.26 --> 3305.92] Well, I mean,
[3306.12 --> 3307.28] Matt said after he
[3307.28 --> 3307.96] put me in the
[3307.96 --> 3309.04] hall of fame, he
[3309.04 --> 3309.88] then said that it
[3309.88 --> 3310.70] doesn't exist
[3310.70 --> 3311.24] everywhere.
[3311.72 --> 3312.58] I think so that
[3312.58 --> 3314.84] the other people
[3314.84 --> 3315.62] with unpopular
[3315.62 --> 3316.72] opinions are not
[3316.72 --> 3316.94] jealous.
[3317.60 --> 3318.66] But I mean, as
[3318.66 --> 3319.22] far as I'm
[3319.22 --> 3321.22] concerned, it's
[3321.22 --> 3324.80] I won that title
[3324.80 --> 3325.56] fair and square.
[3328.06 --> 3329.10] But let's see.
[3329.18 --> 3329.56] Let's see.
[3329.66 --> 3330.60] I mean, it might
[3330.60 --> 3331.82] not be as
[3331.82 --> 3333.22] unorthodox as the
[3333.22 --> 3334.22] old one.
[3334.22 --> 3336.48] Oh, all right.
[3336.62 --> 3337.80] Well, that was
[3337.80 --> 3339.08] fun and interesting
[3339.08 --> 3340.78] and I hope this
[3340.78 --> 3341.48] will bring to the
[3341.48 --> 3342.16] workshop that will
[3342.16 --> 3342.92] generate enough
[3342.92 --> 3343.50] code that will
[3343.50 --> 3344.38] train the AI to
[3344.38 --> 3344.90] do some
[3344.90 --> 3346.28] OOPI Go.
[3347.10 --> 3347.78] Thanks, Rona.
[3347.98 --> 3348.42] Thanks, Ian.
[3348.52 --> 3348.96] Thanks, everyone
[3348.96 --> 3349.38] who joined.
[3349.70 --> 3350.26] Thank you.
[3354.70 --> 3355.60] What do you think
[3355.60 --> 3357.22] about Go and OOP?
[3357.58 --> 3358.84] Let us know in the
[3358.84 --> 3359.36] comments.
[3359.72 --> 3360.48] Links to the
[3360.48 --> 3361.48] discussion in the
[3361.48 --> 3361.94] show notes.
[3361.94 --> 3363.40] I also want to
[3363.40 --> 3364.14] share with you an
[3364.14 --> 3364.92] awesome conversation
[3364.92 --> 3365.64] we had on the
[3365.64 --> 3366.44] changelog recently.
[3366.72 --> 3367.58] Ken Konser wrote
[3367.58 --> 3369.60] up 16 lessons he
[3369.60 --> 3370.44] learned doing
[3370.44 --> 3371.46] security audits for
[3371.46 --> 3372.54] tech startups and
[3372.54 --> 3373.28] we sat down with
[3373.28 --> 3374.06] him for a thorough
[3374.06 --> 3374.88] discussion of his
[3374.88 --> 3375.26] findings.
[3375.78 --> 3376.78] Here's one moment
[3376.78 --> 3377.76] from that episode
[3377.76 --> 3379.10] where Ken shares
[3379.10 --> 3380.72] some pro tips for
[3380.72 --> 3381.72] pen testing teams.
[3382.34 --> 3383.84] And honestly, we
[3383.84 --> 3384.78] would also ask the
[3384.78 --> 3385.92] devs, we would
[3385.92 --> 3386.44] say like what
[3386.44 --> 3387.24] keeps you up, like
[3387.24 --> 3388.02] where in the code
[3388.02 --> 3388.66] keeps you up at
[3388.66 --> 3388.86] night?
[3389.12 --> 3389.68] We wouldn't treat
[3389.68 --> 3390.40] that as God's
[3390.40 --> 3391.72] truth, but you
[3391.72 --> 3392.56] know, developers
[3392.56 --> 3393.48] have a surprisingly
[3393.48 --> 3395.52] good sense, even
[3395.52 --> 3396.28] without security
[3396.28 --> 3398.24] knowledge, of what
[3398.24 --> 3399.14] parts of the code
[3399.14 --> 3400.82] are scary and
[3400.82 --> 3401.40] they're kind of
[3401.40 --> 3401.94] worried about.
[3402.32 --> 3402.76] They definitely
[3402.76 --> 3403.74] have blind spots.
[3404.34 --> 3405.02] That's definitely
[3405.02 --> 3405.76] true, but in
[3405.76 --> 3407.08] terms of like, we
[3407.08 --> 3407.42] were talking about
[3407.42 --> 3408.30] business logic, a
[3408.30 --> 3408.70] lot of times
[3408.70 --> 3409.04] they'll be like,
[3409.08 --> 3409.62] yeah, this part
[3409.62 --> 3410.54] is super gnarly,
[3410.68 --> 3411.94] like there's a ton
[3411.94 --> 3413.06] of logic here and
[3413.06 --> 3414.26] it kind of works,