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[2732.44 --> 2753.10] I am interested in obviously understanding why you chose Go for this kind of work. |
[2753.18 --> 2755.52] Was there something you could have picked a different language? |
[2756.16 --> 2759.52] Was there something special about Go that made this kind of work easier to approach? |
[2759.52 --> 2765.26] And so when I joined Code Notary Team, actually it was already written in Go. |
[2765.80 --> 2767.84] Oh, you didn't have a choice. |
[2768.38 --> 2771.60] But the fact that it was written in Go is very important for me actually. |
[2772.10 --> 2775.00] Because I was watching Go for a very long time. |
[2775.60 --> 2779.82] Initially, I didn't have a chance to work with this commercially, but in my day-to-day job. |
[2779.94 --> 2784.64] But right now I see all the benefits that Go gives, like having those Go routines. |
[2784.64 --> 2788.86] I remember the C++ times when I was writing HTTP servers. |
[2789.60 --> 2793.76] First thing was that you had to write the HTTP server by yourself in many cases. |
[2793.96 --> 2800.44] But then dealing with all those threads and trying to schedule things and make, you know, keep things under control. |
[2800.66 --> 2801.66] It was doable. |
[2802.12 --> 2805.70] And you could write a performance server, but it took a lot of time. |
[2805.70 --> 2815.66] So Golang is this sweet spot between the efficiency of programming and still having the performance application in the end. |
[2816.56 --> 2819.68] So I think that it is a very good system. |
[2819.80 --> 2823.62] And we know that Google is using it because they created it. |
[2823.86 --> 2825.90] So it must be bottle tested. |
[2826.16 --> 2834.50] It most likely contains this knowledge about large-scale deployments that are built in because of where it is used. |
[2834.50 --> 2840.12] And it simplifies so many things that, for me, it's a very good thing. |
[2840.22 --> 2844.64] And also, Cognitory is a startup company where the efficiency is also very important. |
[2845.00 --> 2846.04] So these things matter. |
[2846.56 --> 2851.12] So we could write, let's say, something faster, maybe a little bit, a few percent, |
[2851.54 --> 2855.00] when writing in C++ or even something lower. |
[2855.40 --> 2861.14] But then it would take, I don't know how many times more time, maybe five, maybe ten even. |
[2861.74 --> 2862.66] Cool. What about you, Haranimo? |
[2862.66 --> 2863.58] Yeah, exactly. |
[2863.76 --> 2867.82] When I joined, also, InmoDB was on the initial release. |
[2868.40 --> 2870.06] And it was already written in Go. |
[2870.62 --> 2875.14] But we cannot say that we have changed it, made drastic changes. |
[2875.52 --> 2877.58] So we didn't change the language. |
[2878.12 --> 2885.02] But we could, actually, because by then we completely write from scratch the storage system. |
[2885.02 --> 2888.50] Before, InmoDB was used in BatchelDB. |
[2889.22 --> 2892.78] And that is another key value store that is written in Go. |
[2892.98 --> 2897.56] But I think it is a good choice for the reasons that Barb mentioned. |
[2897.74 --> 2902.62] I also like for the code, easy to read, the code readability. |
[2902.62 --> 2906.04] I found it very, very easy to read code. |
[2906.44 --> 2907.84] And that is written in Go. |
[2907.84 --> 2909.02] And it makes it easier. |
[2909.50 --> 2912.98] Having a standard format for the code is reasons. |
[2913.16 --> 2914.42] Yeah, you seem pretty content with it. |
[2914.90 --> 2915.38] Yeah. |
[2915.72 --> 2916.04] Oh, yeah. |
[2916.12 --> 2916.94] That's all I heard of. |
[2917.02 --> 2917.26] Yeah. |
[2917.26 --> 2917.80] That's awesome. |
[2918.00 --> 2920.16] Good you mentioned the formatting of Go. |
[2920.16 --> 2922.80] Because in C++ there was always a word. |
[2923.16 --> 2926.44] Which one is better and what to choose. |
[2926.72 --> 2926.88] Yeah. |
[2926.90 --> 2928.98] Nobody loves GoFund, but everybody loves GoFund. |
[2929.46 --> 2932.20] Actually, I love it since the first years. |
[2932.74 --> 2933.78] I must say. |
[2934.32 --> 2937.62] John, you got one final question before we switch it over to Unpopular Opinions? |
[2937.78 --> 2939.80] I'm fine with jumping to Unpopular Opinions. |
[2940.42 --> 2941.20] There we go. |
[2941.24 --> 2941.78] It's that time. |
[2941.86 --> 2943.70] Oh, I hope you brought the goodies, gents. |
[2944.40 --> 2944.78] All right. |
[2944.80 --> 2945.82] Let's get the tune going. |
[2950.16 --> 2951.32] Unpopular Opinions |
[2951.32 --> 2952.04] What? |
[2952.32 --> 2954.02] I actually think she'll probably leave. |
[2956.60 --> 2959.08] Unpopular Opinions |
[2959.08 --> 2965.84] All right. |
[2965.98 --> 2966.62] All right. |
[2966.78 --> 2967.40] All right. |
[2967.84 --> 2970.86] So, let's go with Geronimo first. |
[2971.30 --> 2971.80] What you got? |
[2972.44 --> 2974.76] Mine is not a technical one. |
[2974.76 --> 2983.48] But during the pandemics, I started to see that a lot of developers started to upload photos |
[2983.48 --> 2988.08] of their working environment outside, in a garden, in a beach. |
[2988.56 --> 2989.86] For me, it's impossible. |
[2990.06 --> 2996.94] I don't know if it's just me or those photos are just illustrative, like when you see a hamburger |
[2996.94 --> 2997.34] ad. |
[2998.44 --> 3000.08] So, that will be. |
[3000.32 --> 3000.96] I don't know. |
[3001.00 --> 3001.72] It's just me. |
[3002.04 --> 3004.14] I mean, you've got a whole gym sitting there behind you. |
[3004.14 --> 3004.74] Yeah. |
[3006.16 --> 3010.96] Actually, this is related to what Bar is going to mention, probably. |
[3011.42 --> 3013.36] It's like, these people are just stuffing their faces. |
[3014.00 --> 3017.56] I mean, instead of a gym, they just put some flowers and gardens behind them. |
[3017.80 --> 3018.34] All right. |
[3018.54 --> 3024.18] But once I went outside with my colleagues from a previous job to eat something, and we |
[3024.18 --> 3027.84] actually had some kind of alert and had to act very quickly. |
[3027.84 --> 3031.06] And we sat somewhere just outside. |
[3031.72 --> 3037.60] And honestly, the lightning makes it impossible to do anything, to see anything on the laptop. |
[3038.32 --> 3040.88] So, I kind of agree with that. |
[3041.42 --> 3044.62] So, it's not that unpopular because I also agree. |
[3044.90 --> 3048.06] You have to have a good environment to do work. |
[3048.06 --> 3051.44] Maybe it's indoor, it's much better. |
[3051.58 --> 3053.50] But out there, it will be very hard. |
[3053.88 --> 3057.74] I feel like every person's unique in what they can and can't work with. |
[3058.22 --> 3060.24] Because some people love co-working spaces. |
[3061.24 --> 3064.96] And it's not that I hate them, but I would never want to go to one every day of the week. |
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