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[2732.44 --> 2753.10] I am interested in obviously understanding why you chose Go for this kind of work.
[2753.18 --> 2755.52] Was there something you could have picked a different language?
[2756.16 --> 2759.52] Was there something special about Go that made this kind of work easier to approach?
[2759.52 --> 2765.26] And so when I joined Code Notary Team, actually it was already written in Go.
[2765.80 --> 2767.84] Oh, you didn't have a choice.
[2768.38 --> 2771.60] But the fact that it was written in Go is very important for me actually.
[2772.10 --> 2775.00] Because I was watching Go for a very long time.
[2775.60 --> 2779.82] Initially, I didn't have a chance to work with this commercially, but in my day-to-day job.
[2779.94 --> 2784.64] But right now I see all the benefits that Go gives, like having those Go routines.
[2784.64 --> 2788.86] I remember the C++ times when I was writing HTTP servers.
[2789.60 --> 2793.76] First thing was that you had to write the HTTP server by yourself in many cases.
[2793.96 --> 2800.44] But then dealing with all those threads and trying to schedule things and make, you know, keep things under control.
[2800.66 --> 2801.66] It was doable.
[2802.12 --> 2805.70] And you could write a performance server, but it took a lot of time.
[2805.70 --> 2815.66] So Golang is this sweet spot between the efficiency of programming and still having the performance application in the end.
[2816.56 --> 2819.68] So I think that it is a very good system.
[2819.80 --> 2823.62] And we know that Google is using it because they created it.
[2823.86 --> 2825.90] So it must be bottle tested.
[2826.16 --> 2834.50] It most likely contains this knowledge about large-scale deployments that are built in because of where it is used.
[2834.50 --> 2840.12] And it simplifies so many things that, for me, it's a very good thing.
[2840.22 --> 2844.64] And also, Cognitory is a startup company where the efficiency is also very important.
[2845.00 --> 2846.04] So these things matter.
[2846.56 --> 2851.12] So we could write, let's say, something faster, maybe a little bit, a few percent,
[2851.54 --> 2855.00] when writing in C++ or even something lower.
[2855.40 --> 2861.14] But then it would take, I don't know how many times more time, maybe five, maybe ten even.
[2861.74 --> 2862.66] Cool. What about you, Haranimo?
[2862.66 --> 2863.58] Yeah, exactly.
[2863.76 --> 2867.82] When I joined, also, InmoDB was on the initial release.
[2868.40 --> 2870.06] And it was already written in Go.
[2870.62 --> 2875.14] But we cannot say that we have changed it, made drastic changes.
[2875.52 --> 2877.58] So we didn't change the language.
[2878.12 --> 2885.02] But we could, actually, because by then we completely write from scratch the storage system.
[2885.02 --> 2888.50] Before, InmoDB was used in BatchelDB.
[2889.22 --> 2892.78] And that is another key value store that is written in Go.
[2892.98 --> 2897.56] But I think it is a good choice for the reasons that Barb mentioned.
[2897.74 --> 2902.62] I also like for the code, easy to read, the code readability.
[2902.62 --> 2906.04] I found it very, very easy to read code.
[2906.44 --> 2907.84] And that is written in Go.
[2907.84 --> 2909.02] And it makes it easier.
[2909.50 --> 2912.98] Having a standard format for the code is reasons.
[2913.16 --> 2914.42] Yeah, you seem pretty content with it.
[2914.90 --> 2915.38] Yeah.
[2915.72 --> 2916.04] Oh, yeah.
[2916.12 --> 2916.94] That's all I heard of.
[2917.02 --> 2917.26] Yeah.
[2917.26 --> 2917.80] That's awesome.
[2918.00 --> 2920.16] Good you mentioned the formatting of Go.
[2920.16 --> 2922.80] Because in C++ there was always a word.
[2923.16 --> 2926.44] Which one is better and what to choose.
[2926.72 --> 2926.88] Yeah.
[2926.90 --> 2928.98] Nobody loves GoFund, but everybody loves GoFund.
[2929.46 --> 2932.20] Actually, I love it since the first years.
[2932.74 --> 2933.78] I must say.
[2934.32 --> 2937.62] John, you got one final question before we switch it over to Unpopular Opinions?
[2937.78 --> 2939.80] I'm fine with jumping to Unpopular Opinions.
[2940.42 --> 2941.20] There we go.
[2941.24 --> 2941.78] It's that time.
[2941.86 --> 2943.70] Oh, I hope you brought the goodies, gents.
[2944.40 --> 2944.78] All right.
[2944.80 --> 2945.82] Let's get the tune going.
[2950.16 --> 2951.32] Unpopular Opinions
[2951.32 --> 2952.04] What?
[2952.32 --> 2954.02] I actually think she'll probably leave.
[2956.60 --> 2959.08] Unpopular Opinions
[2959.08 --> 2965.84] All right.
[2965.98 --> 2966.62] All right.
[2966.78 --> 2967.40] All right.
[2967.84 --> 2970.86] So, let's go with Geronimo first.
[2971.30 --> 2971.80] What you got?
[2972.44 --> 2974.76] Mine is not a technical one.
[2974.76 --> 2983.48] But during the pandemics, I started to see that a lot of developers started to upload photos
[2983.48 --> 2988.08] of their working environment outside, in a garden, in a beach.
[2988.56 --> 2989.86] For me, it's impossible.
[2990.06 --> 2996.94] I don't know if it's just me or those photos are just illustrative, like when you see a hamburger
[2996.94 --> 2997.34] ad.
[2998.44 --> 3000.08] So, that will be.
[3000.32 --> 3000.96] I don't know.
[3001.00 --> 3001.72] It's just me.
[3002.04 --> 3004.14] I mean, you've got a whole gym sitting there behind you.
[3004.14 --> 3004.74] Yeah.
[3006.16 --> 3010.96] Actually, this is related to what Bar is going to mention, probably.
[3011.42 --> 3013.36] It's like, these people are just stuffing their faces.
[3014.00 --> 3017.56] I mean, instead of a gym, they just put some flowers and gardens behind them.
[3017.80 --> 3018.34] All right.
[3018.54 --> 3024.18] But once I went outside with my colleagues from a previous job to eat something, and we
[3024.18 --> 3027.84] actually had some kind of alert and had to act very quickly.
[3027.84 --> 3031.06] And we sat somewhere just outside.
[3031.72 --> 3037.60] And honestly, the lightning makes it impossible to do anything, to see anything on the laptop.
[3038.32 --> 3040.88] So, I kind of agree with that.
[3041.42 --> 3044.62] So, it's not that unpopular because I also agree.
[3044.90 --> 3048.06] You have to have a good environment to do work.
[3048.06 --> 3051.44] Maybe it's indoor, it's much better.
[3051.58 --> 3053.50] But out there, it will be very hard.
[3053.88 --> 3057.74] I feel like every person's unique in what they can and can't work with.
[3058.22 --> 3060.24] Because some people love co-working spaces.
[3061.24 --> 3064.96] And it's not that I hate them, but I would never want to go to one every day of the week.