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**Carmen Andoh:** Very good.
**Ashley Willis:** Definitely encourage those people to ask more questions; it might open it up for other people to ask more questions.
**Carmen Andoh:** Great! Well, we're kind of coming up on the top of the hour. There's a couple things I wanted to mention... First of all, there's one last segment that I'm really interested in learning more about, and I made a survey; I am not a survey designer, but I really am curious - how many of you here on this ...
**Ashley Willis:** I have.
**Carmen Andoh:** Yeah... And is learning while on the job, whether it's because you have to or you're exploring for new tooling, or because it's a change in the technical stack - how does learning or beginning from that headspace any different from learning maybe on your own time?
**Ashley Willis:** \[58:10\] I feel like it's different, because usually if it's for work, you know why you need to learn it. So you kind of have some base knowledge. You're like "I have to learn it because I need to build this feature, or we're building this tool, and that's why I have to learn it." So you can google ...
**Carmen Andoh:** Okay. Jon, Dave?
**Jon Calhoun:** I've had to learn on the job, and like Ashley said, it's specifics, but also your focus is on being productive, not academic learning, so that forces you to not let yourself get distracted as much, I guess is the best way to put it. If you need to build a WebSocket server or something, you're gonna foc...
**David Valentine:** Well, I think that getting distracted is the enjoyment that you have when you decide to explore something in your own personal time, for your own personal benefit. You can go down those rabbit holes, you can explore... It's almost like a buffet of knowledge. And I love reading, and learning, and I ...
So it's very pointed, because you're trying to get to a particular objective... But the pleasure of just learning something for kicks and giggles - there's a joy with that as well, and it's different than when you're trying to fulfill what the CIO asked on a Friday morning.
**Jon Calhoun:** \[01:00:13.09\] Yeah.
**Ashley Willis:** Yes.
**Jon Calhoun:** I guess I should say, those distractions can be very good things, but I just think that's one of the big differences - sometimes they're good, sometimes they're bad, and I think that having them there... It just is one of the big differences for me, as I just felt like in the work environment I never h...
**Ashley Willis:** Exactly. You definitely get less in the weeds when it's for work.
**Carmen Andoh:** Very cool. I wanna hear more about this... I am gonna put a link in the chat - it's bit.ly/onjobcodesurvey. I wanna share it on my Twitter, and maybe everyone else can share it... I just wanna know, because it's kind of my one "How is that different?", and are there any gaps out there in the ocean of ...
**David Valentine:** Children's book. Dang it. \[laughs\]
**Carmen Andoh:** Alright, I think that's what's happening... Children's book. It is happening.
**Ashley Willis:** Please do it. Brian Ketelsen and I were supposed to do it, but we are just far too busy. I really need somebody to do this. Just selfishly, please do it.
**Carmen Andoh:** Amazing.
**Jon Calhoun:** I almost feel like there needs to be resources teaching people how to ignore all the bad advice they're gonna get. Like Ashley had said, people keep telling you to build something, or if you get on the Go Reddit, they're gonna tell you never to use third-party libraries... There's a lot of things like ...
**Carmen Andoh:** Yes...!
**Ashley Willis:** Yes, also please write that.
**Carmen Andoh:** Yes, I have that as a survey question, which is like "What is this letter to your past self? What do you wish that you didn't have to unnecessarily go through?" So yeah, totally. I think that's great. I wish we had more time to discuss that, but that is just really some of the best -- if we could get ...
So I'm gonna close out... I have a closing out section here, so let me just gather my wits and then I'll read it, and then we'll say bye.
Whatever kind of beginner you are, we hope this episode has given you a good starting point as you start to learn and improve your Go. The learning gotchas, how learning Go might be different from your current programming language, where to ask questions and get help from the community, and where to continue on your le...
Thanks everyone for today's episode of GoTime FM. Thank you, Ashley, thank you Jon, thank you Dave for joining me. We'll see you next week.
• This episode is about beginner-friendly conversations from the GoTimes podcast back catalog
• Discussion of tracking versions of languages or packages in code bases
• Problem of maintaining compatibility and version unification across different systems
• Introducing Sourcegraph's Code Insights product to track code base activity
• Limitations of previous methods for tracking versions, including using spreadsheets or custom-built systems
• Advantages of using Sourcegraph Search to track versions with a single line of code
• Adoption and deprecations of languages and packages
• Code insights for tracking versions, security vulnerabilities, code smells, and configuration
• GoLang basics for beginners, including a Q&A session with experts online
• History of programming, specifically how guests started learning to program in the 1980s
• Link to further resources on about.sourcegraph.com slash code dash insights
• Types of beginners: those who know one programming language, career transitioners with no prior experience, and curious kids
• Creating beginner-friendly content: specialization in teaching absolute beginners through fundamentals of computer science and Go
• Course focus: specifically for people new to programming languages and wanting to learn Go
• Course name: A Gentle Introduction to Golang for Beginners on Udemy
• The importance of breaking down complex computer concepts into understandable pieces
• The difficulty of balancing in-depth explanations with avoiding getting "stuck in the weeds"
• The value of trusting established knowledge and not feeling obligated to understand every underlying detail
• The potential for age-related differences in learning styles, with younger individuals being more willing to trust and learn from others
• The importance of forcing oneself to learn through repetition and persistence, even when faced with complex information.
• The example of someone learning programming on their own by completing multiple web development courses.
• The potential drawbacks of focusing too early on intricate details, leading to feeling overwhelmed.
• The shift in the industry towards self-taught individuals or those from non-traditional educational backgrounds.
• The value and effectiveness of using open courseware materials from major universities compared to boot camps.
• Privilege in access to CS degrees and learning opportunities
• Benefits of online courses for self-paced learning
• Importance of open courseware for valuable learning
• Personal journeys as beginners learning programming languages
• Introduction to Go language, its features, and its next-generation status
• Comparison with other languages, including C++ and Python
• Curation of existing material for effective learning
• Importance of a "spark" or "ignition" to get students started with learning Golang
• Value of practical experience and project-based learning in supplementing theoretical knowledge
• Overcoming obstacles such as lack of project ideas and relevant skills
• The role of finding the right project size and scope for effective learning
• Difficulty of creating projects with APIs and web scraping
• Value of learning by attempting to solve problems on own, even if unsuccessful
• Importance of persistence and multiple attempts in coding
• Advice from experienced programmers to "just build something"
• Benefits of building a project three times to learn from mistakes and improve code
• Repetition is key in learning and development
• Building similar but distinct projects reinforces learning
• Revisiting a project or task multiple times allows for deeper understanding and improvement
• Automation tools, such as Fire Hydrant, can streamline incident management and response
• Learning through repetition helps to move information into long-term memory
• Incident run books and automation rules
• Creating custom sequences for incident response
• Consistent and automatic processes with FireHydrant features