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[1521.62 --> 1526.24] There is a queuing engine, like a Redis-style thing called ClickHouse. |
[1526.90 --> 1528.14] There's the app itself. |
[1528.32 --> 1529.76] And then there's an SMTP relay. |
[1529.76 --> 1535.72] So those four containers come together to form the app that is plausible. |
[1536.14 --> 1548.10] But, of course, their documentation doesn't quite tell you all the little tricks you need to do and all the environment variables you need to specify to get it up and running properly, which is super annoying. |
[1548.10 --> 1554.70] The Docker Compose script that they have actually linked in their documentation is about two years old. |
[1555.20 --> 1557.98] And so I was going through following this thing and looking at the version numbers. |
[1558.06 --> 1560.58] And then I thought, right, I'll just go and check the latest tag in Docker Hub. |
[1561.64 --> 1562.96] Yeah, two years old. |
[1563.08 --> 1563.82] Completely out of date. |
[1563.88 --> 1564.62] Hasn't been touched. |
[1564.68 --> 1569.42] So then I went to the RealOrange1's GitHub and looked at what he's doing because I know he runs plausible too. |
[1570.20 --> 1575.02] And his GitHub repo combined with their documentation, I eventually got it up and running. |
[1575.76 --> 1578.56] And once I did, I was super-duper happy with this thing. |
[1578.68 --> 1584.56] You know, I had to embed a little JavaScript header in each web page that I wanted to track. |
[1584.90 --> 1587.78] And within a minute or two, I could see people showing up straight away. |
[1587.78 --> 1594.02] So my mkdocs website at perfectmediaserver.com, my ghost blog at blog.ktz.me. |
[1594.20 --> 1597.42] I even put selfhosted.show on there as well, just as a test. |
[1597.42 --> 1600.60] And I've got to say, it was pretty flawless. |
[1601.02 --> 1602.24] Are you getting real-time numbers? |
[1602.66 --> 1602.84] Yep. |
[1603.22 --> 1604.54] Ah, I love that. |
[1604.92 --> 1606.70] Okay, so you took a couple hours to get up and running. |
[1607.14 --> 1610.72] And now once it's up, is it something that you're putting like on the public web? |
[1610.80 --> 1611.48] How is that working? |
[1611.52 --> 1612.44] Is it behind a firewall? |
[1612.68 --> 1614.08] And can you give access to others? |
[1614.44 --> 1616.52] So there's a few different things you can do. |
[1616.86 --> 1625.12] By default, it's limited to authenticated users, you know, to the admin user that you create and any other users that you create in the app itself. |
[1625.12 --> 1630.74] But when you and I were talking before the show, I thought, oh, it'd be cool if I could just show Chris what I'm doing here. |
[1631.20 --> 1635.80] And so for the selfhosted.show thing, I went into the site settings for that specific site. |
[1636.28 --> 1639.12] And there's a whole list of things I can do. |
[1639.22 --> 1643.24] So I can not only make this publicly available. |
[1643.86 --> 1645.14] I've just switched this on. |
[1645.14 --> 1651.50] So I'm actually going to put this in the chat room so that the live stream can go and have a look at the analytics that we pulled up today on selfhosted.show. |
[1652.28 --> 1654.28] So that's a public version that we can do. |
[1654.36 --> 1659.14] But I can also give specific users like an authenticated link. |
[1659.38 --> 1665.46] So I can say, right, I want to share this specific thing with this email address. |
[1665.46 --> 1670.92] And I'm going to give them a password and it expires after a certain length of time. |
[1671.42 --> 1673.60] Can you imagine doing that for like a sponsor or something? |
[1674.26 --> 1674.30] Right. |
[1674.36 --> 1678.76] That is a fantastic feature just from like working with somebody for a short period of time. |
[1678.94 --> 1688.30] The one thing that I found when you gave me the link and I kind of looked around in there is it doesn't seem like it goes as deep maybe as Google Analytics does. |
[1688.52 --> 1693.00] Like Google Analytics, you could just keep drilling down and down and down and getting more specifics. |
[1693.00 --> 1695.76] This is a little higher level. |
[1695.98 --> 1697.34] Like it tells you everything you need to know. |
[1697.42 --> 1701.96] Your unique visitors, your total page views, your bounce rate and the average visit duration. |
[1701.96 --> 1708.04] And of course, your top sources and your top pages and the locations in which they come from and the types of devices they use. |
[1708.08 --> 1710.00] So it's all it's all what you need. |
[1710.10 --> 1711.62] It's not nothing's really missing. |
[1711.96 --> 1714.08] And it'd be fine for what we use. |
[1714.16 --> 1719.20] But it did seem like maybe not quite as detailed as the Goog stuff might be. |
[1719.30 --> 1720.12] Do you agree with that? |
[1720.12 --> 1725.60] That's the price you pay for not having surveillance capitalism be the driver of everything. |
[1725.88 --> 1725.98] Right. |
[1726.24 --> 1734.22] I'm not trying to get political, but I am going to have a little bit of a rant about the death of democracy and social media and everything in the last six to ten years. |
[1734.36 --> 1737.00] And I could go off the rails, but I'm not going to here. |
[1737.10 --> 1738.06] I'm going to keep it on topic. |
[1738.06 --> 1751.30] And, you know, that's one of the things I like about plausible, actually, is that because it's so lightweight and because it's so privacy friendly and privacy focused, I turned off privacy badger to make it work on my web browser. |
[1751.48 --> 1757.14] But I didn't, you know, I had a look at the trackers and it was very minimal what it was doing compared to what Google Analytics does. |
[1757.34 --> 1758.42] I really like that. |
[1758.42 --> 1759.78] I mean, for me, that's a feature. |
[1760.16 --> 1760.88] I completely agree. |
[1761.14 --> 1764.04] We stopped using Google Analytics just because I'm creeped out by Google. |
[1764.22 --> 1766.20] But, you know, I didn't really replace it with anything. |
[1766.54 --> 1774.44] So something that we could run ourselves on our own infrastructure and, you know, use that data just so we get an idea of maybe how our website's performing. |
[1774.44 --> 1778.24] Because, you know, one of the things you can figure out is maybe there's something wrong with the site. |
[1778.32 --> 1779.42] Maybe there's a design issue. |
[1779.42 --> 1786.04] There's insights that you miss and, you know, your web page for online businesses is the front of your store. |
[1786.64 --> 1787.54] So that's pretty great. |
[1788.50 --> 1791.12] And I guess they do have a pay version too as well, right? |
[1791.14 --> 1793.82] So if you wanted to, you could go all in on their hosted version. |
[1794.06 --> 1797.44] It doesn't look like it's that expensive unless you get like millions of views. |
[1797.44 --> 1799.90] Then it gets up to like 90 bucks a month if you get 2 million views. |
[1800.56 --> 1805.24] Yeah, I suppose compared to Google's low, low price of free but you are the product, it's expensive. |
[1805.24 --> 1811.98] But I'd rather support companies that are willing to give their software away like this than Google sometimes. |
[1812.54 --> 1814.32] Now, Fuzzy, I know that you use a different one. |
[1814.42 --> 1815.72] Was it called Umami or something? |
[1816.30 --> 1817.74] Yeah, I think it's pronounced Umami. |
[1818.26 --> 1821.50] I think the orange one on Discord was talking about plausible at one point. |
[1821.56 --> 1826.10] So I was like, oh, I kind of want to get away from Google too, like everybody does who self-hosts. |
[1826.18 --> 1830.24] And so I went and tried to spin it up and I ran into the same exact problem you did where I'm... |
[1830.78 --> 1834.44] Generally, I try and avoid apps that require more than like two containers. |
[1835.24 --> 1837.58] I just don't like ones that are that complicated. |
[1837.68 --> 1839.54] I just feel like it defeats the purpose of Docker. |
[1839.96 --> 1843.44] Like I remember one time I tried to spin up a Unify thing and it was literally like 10 containers. |
[1843.54 --> 1844.74] I'm like, no, no. |
[1845.40 --> 1847.24] So Umami is only two containers. |
[1847.38 --> 1853.84] There's the database portion of it that I can run in MariaDB and then there's the actual Umami collection thing. |
[1854.24 --> 1859.76] And from looking at what you posted on Discord and the website, Umami looks pretty much exactly the same. |
[1859.76 --> 1874.48] I don't know in terms of like features and the dashboard and everything, but like I can see the same exact things where I can see what pages got hit, where the source was from, the country, you know, desktop versus laptop versus tablet, all that. |
[1874.48 --> 1875.50] I can see the same thing. |
[1875.64 --> 1879.50] So if you're looking for something a little bit simpler to set up, it might be a decent option. |
[1879.84 --> 1881.38] I'll put a link to Umami in the show notes. |
[1881.86 --> 1894.22] Alex, when you were showing me earlier today, plausible in your excitedness, you were describing the different containers and how at first, maybe once you're getting into it, it's a little bit more complex to get set up. |
[1894.22 --> 1899.34] But you did say that that was actually a really nice engineering decision for scalability. |
[1899.48 --> 1900.48] Can you talk on that a little bit? |
[1900.48 --> 1901.12] Yeah, absolutely. |
[1901.30 --> 1922.78] So if you look at the way in which, say, GitLab is architected, right, they provide a big bastard container that is like six gigs of RAM, does eight million processes, and completely is antithetical to the entire purpose of containers and microservices, right? |
[1922.78 --> 1925.18] It's one big monolith that they deploy. |
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