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[1889.22 --> 1894.38] I think it's in part a lack of time to invest to find the options and the skill set. |
[1894.88 --> 1894.98] Yeah. |
[1895.12 --> 1901.54] I mean, you and I have spent 15 years plus building these skills that allow us to run a Linux server. |
[1901.96 --> 1903.46] And it's not a judgment call. |
[1903.60 --> 1904.46] No, not at all. |
[1904.86 --> 1907.06] It's not easy either. |
[1907.32 --> 1915.98] Like, you know, if you were to genuinely sit down and try and explain, I'm thinking back to Linux Action Show with Noah's switch to Linux challenge right now. |
[1916.00 --> 1916.76] Right, right. |
[1916.76 --> 1922.32] If you were to walk into Best Buy with an SSD and say to someone, here, go and stick this in your computer. |
[1922.32 --> 1930.72] First of all, how many people would have a computer that could actually take an SSD that isn't soldered onto the motherboard, for example, these days? |
[1930.72 --> 1931.56] Yeah, I know. |
[1931.76 --> 1937.44] But how many people genuinely would know what, would have the first clue what to do next? |
[1937.44 --> 1946.00] And it's such a lot of information that we've learned over, like I say, my whole life. |
[1946.06 --> 1948.92] I built my first computer when I was 13 from parts. |
[1949.44 --> 1954.96] And then the first Linux I ran was, I think, Ubuntu 7, whatever that was. |
[1954.96 --> 1970.76] I wonder if this conversation is similar to the conversation that radio enthusiasts had as radios became normalized and car enthusiasts had as cars kind of became sealed up and people didn't do their own oil changes and things like that anymore. |
[1971.26 --> 1974.18] But there's still people that are into that stuff, but it's more of a niche. |
[1974.18 --> 1986.18] And so I feel like it's kind of on us to use this stuff to drive demand and create a market for it, because otherwise, if we don't do it, literally no one else will. |
[1987.04 --> 1990.88] Well, I mean, the self-hosted subreddit is one of the busiest that I frequent. |
[1991.18 --> 1993.76] So I think self-hosting in general is pretty healthy. |
[1993.76 --> 2009.64] There's lots of people who don't live in the Western world, for example, that rely on things like this to get around great firewalls and censorship of various different degrees and stuff like that. |
[2009.78 --> 2017.40] You know, it's not just people like you and me who are choosing to reject big tech, for want of a better phrase. |
[2018.02 --> 2023.12] Some people have to, to escape governments and, you know, whatever it might be. |
[2023.12 --> 2028.04] I think there's also the privacy aspect for just a lot of people is becoming more and more. |
[2028.26 --> 2030.66] Even in the West, I think it's becoming more and more important to them. |
[2030.76 --> 2032.24] It's a bigger and bigger motivator. |
[2032.64 --> 2033.44] I don't think it's the only reason. |
[2033.50 --> 2036.48] I think there's several, there's lots of things that drive people into self-hosting. |
[2036.94 --> 2039.62] Sometimes it's like we've said before, you just want to have your own media library. |
[2039.96 --> 2041.14] And sometimes it's privacy. |
[2041.32 --> 2042.68] Sometimes it's issues with big tech. |
[2043.20 --> 2044.58] It's not going to die, right? |
[2045.02 --> 2045.62] In fact, it'll grow. |
[2045.70 --> 2046.70] It'll continue to grow. |
[2047.44 --> 2050.56] The Google trends and stuff continue to grow at a faster rate, I suppose. |
[2050.56 --> 2055.18] Yeah, this gives me a chance to plug one of my favorite websites, killedbygoogle.com. |
[2055.36 --> 2056.92] Yeah, yes. |
[2057.38 --> 2067.46] But, you know, the self-hosting trend in general, there's lots of trends in the media industry that push people, are pushing people away from legitimate streaming services at present. |
[2067.98 --> 2074.32] Five years ago, maybe the only option in the room was Netflix, maybe an Amazon Prime video. |
[2074.84 --> 2075.02] Yeah. |
[2075.02 --> 2076.50] How many are there now? |
[2076.70 --> 2078.06] I could not even tell you, man. |
[2078.10 --> 2078.78] It's crazy. |
[2079.16 --> 2081.48] And, you know, it's like we've just created Cable 2.0. |
[2081.94 --> 2091.38] So I know a lot of people are rejecting that and going to, you know, r slash piracy and doing all sorts of nefarious things over there. |
[2091.38 --> 2094.90] I feel like we're in a good spot, generally, as a community. |
[2095.14 --> 2101.06] There's so much open source software that just you could only have dreamt of 10 years ago. |
[2101.22 --> 2106.64] You know, you could legitimately run your whole business using nothing but open source software without too much compromise, I think. |
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[2210.18 --> 2210.36] Yeah. |
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[2246.10 --> 2251.00] Now, Bronzewing writes in with 9001 sats talking about 3D printing. |
[2251.44 --> 2252.38] Hi, Chris and the Badger. |
[2252.44 --> 2255.02] I just wanted to thank you for the content that you guys create. |
[2255.48 --> 2259.22] I've listened to every episode, and I just recently jumped into the 3D printing world. |
[2259.82 --> 2262.14] Any chance I might hear more of that type of content? |
[2262.34 --> 2268.56] I find 3D printing really complements small board computers, and you can make some really neat stuff that runs Linux. |
[2268.64 --> 2270.14] Well, you're our 3D printing guy, Alex. |
[2270.44 --> 2271.50] Apparently so, yeah. |
[2272.48 --> 2276.74] It's a question that we've tossed around internally this week after getting this bit of feedback. |
[2277.48 --> 2281.40] We might do some special episodes on it, you know, around the holidays and things like that, |
[2281.46 --> 2284.60] where we need a week off for travel or whatever it might be. |
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