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• Discussion on Discord vs Matrix self-hosting and community dynamics |
• Weighing security and ease of use in communication platforms |
• Considering the impact of onboarding process on user adoption |
• Reflecting on the size of the Discord community and potential for Matrix growth |
• Discussion about self-hosting chat servers and using Discord vs Matrix |
• Comparison of growth and user base between Matrix and Discord |
• Mention of Red Hat's increasing presence in the Matrix community |
• Question from a listener about storing two-factor authentication codes alongside passwords |
• Response to the question on the trade-off between convenience and security |
• Threat model and physical security |
• Balance between protection and convenience |
• Authentication methods (face/ thumb recognition) |
• Bitcoin price discussion ($20,000) |
• Show boost and membership options |
• Live feed development and site reliability engineering |
• Meetup event in London on August 5th |
• Contact information for writing into the show |
• Upcoming podcast episode details |
• Changes to the show's schedule and live stream format |
• Online presence and links to social media and podcast platforms (Twitter, GitHub, Jupiter Broadcasting) |
• Potential issues with internet connectivity while traveling due to Starlink usage |
• Final thank you message and closing notes |
[0.00 --> 3.96] Well, joining us on the show today, we have a colleague from Red Hat of mine, |
[4.24 --> 10.82] Josh Laskar. But before we introduce Josh, I just need to warn anybody, like a trigger warning. |
[11.64 --> 14.94] This man has more Raspberry Pis than Chris Fisher. |
[15.28 --> 19.80] I know. I think there is some discussion about creating a law against owning this many Raspberry |
[19.80 --> 25.12] Pis. Well, we have a leaderboard for the amount of storage people have. I think we might need |
[25.12 --> 30.36] to create a new leaderboard for the number of Pis. Anyway, welcome to the show, Josh. |
[31.06 --> 34.34] Thank you so much. Long time listener and excited to be here. |
[34.60 --> 38.18] Well, very good. Before we get into the show proper, let's just do some housekeeping stuff, |
[38.26 --> 44.50] shall we? The London meetup is coming up fast on August the 5th. We have finally nailed down |
[44.50 --> 51.70] a location that everybody seems to be happy with. So we're going to go for the Jubilee Gardens, |
[51.70 --> 56.68] right underneath the London Eye-Hungerford Bridge down by the River Thames in London, |
[56.94 --> 63.36] next to Waterloo Station. There is a big grassy area with a bunch of paths kind of winding their |
[63.36 --> 68.66] way through it right next to the South Bank River frontage. I think if we just all meet up there |
[68.66 --> 76.50] around about six o'clock British summertime, there's been some consternation in the group about GMT versus |
[76.50 --> 82.66] BST. Sounds like a load of BS to me, but there we go. Six o'clock, as you look at your watch, |
[83.40 --> 88.62] in British summertime is when we'll be meeting down in the Jubilee Gardens in London. |
[89.08 --> 94.18] I am super happy that you have found a location. I know that was a bit of consternation, |
[94.28 --> 98.70] especially because you're doing it from afar. So that's really good. It's like getting real now, |
[98.78 --> 102.66] Alex. Yeah. Well, I mean, when we were here, we did the one in Raleigh, I could go and check it out |
[102.66 --> 106.40] and make sure it was all good. But in London, it's a lot more tricky. And I actually had several |
[106.40 --> 110.70] offers from folks. There was a lovely venue near Covent Garden. There was another one in Woolwich |
[110.70 --> 115.54] that we were offered, but they were indoors. And some of the folks who are meeting with us, |
[115.66 --> 120.70] just that's a hard line for them. You know, Friday night in London, there aren't too many outdoor |
[120.70 --> 126.08] options. So I thought we'd just keep it simple and do something fairly central that is fairly |
[126.08 --> 132.60] touristy and therefore reasonably safe so far as London goes. And yeah, that's where we |
[132.60 --> 137.62] ended up. Meetup.com slash Jupyter Broadcasting for the deets on that. And of course, you guys have |
[137.62 --> 143.00] been organizing this. This really was birthed in the self-hosted matrix itself, self-hosted discord |
[143.00 --> 149.68] at self-hosted.show slash discord. The Freudian slip on the matrix there was because this did inspire |
[149.68 --> 157.64] us to realize and take action. And that was, we created a JB Meetups matrix space. So at matrix, |
[157.64 --> 163.52] there's this concept of a space where you can have like a bunch of collection of rooms. So we have a |
[163.52 --> 168.48] meetup space. And then in there, we're going to have location specific chat rooms that are going to be |
[168.48 --> 173.20] standing chat rooms. So that way we can build crowds. Like I'd like to create a Raleigh one. I want to |
[173.20 --> 178.24] create a California one. We already have a London colony, a Pacific Northwest colony, and the mumble |
[178.24 --> 183.06] colony. So we can also do virtual events, but I could see more in the future. I'm just kind of feeling it |
[183.06 --> 187.62] out right now. And there is already folks organizing in the London colony. We'll have a link in the show |
[187.62 --> 192.56] notes to that as well. Because what we were talking about was potentially going for some air quotes, |
[192.76 --> 199.34] pre-drinks or pre-eats before the main meetup somewhere nearby as a smaller group. Because I |
[199.34 --> 205.08] know, you know, we pick 6pm because then anybody that's got to travel after work or has work in the |
[205.08 --> 210.44] London area can still make it at the official time. But I don't know, like three, four o'clock, |
[210.44 --> 214.50] something like that. Maybe a few of us might meet up a little bit earlier and go and get some food or |
[214.50 --> 219.94] something like that. And then head over at 6pm proper. Very good. I want to say thanks to Tim |
[219.94 --> 225.72] for filling in last episode. Did a great job while I was out sick, which was horrible timing. |
[226.02 --> 231.18] I hope you're feeling better. Yeah, I'm like 90% better. I still have some junk in my chest and in |
[231.18 --> 236.32] my sinuses, but I'm like 90% better. The worst timing ever, really. It was just a horrible time to get |
[236.32 --> 240.16] sick. So I was doing pre-records. We were trying to do this show. I was trying to travel. It was like |
[240.16 --> 244.40] the worst possible time to get sick. Well, when we had Tim on, we turned it into the |
[244.40 --> 250.12] Kubernetes action show in your absence. Yeah. Yeah. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it a lot. And we |
[250.12 --> 254.50] got some nice comments too. So thank you to Tim for filling in. For those of you that have been |
[254.50 --> 259.60] following along with the show, I sent in, I think it was probably about six weeks ago now, I sent in |
[259.60 --> 266.02] to Western Digital a failed, shucked hard drive. I finally got the replacement through yesterday. |
[266.02 --> 270.70] Okay. Well, okay. Do you know how long it was, Alex? I've lost track of how long it actually took |
[270.70 --> 274.60] for the replacement to come. Well, I removed the drive from the server when Brent was here. |
[274.86 --> 279.34] So that should give you some idea. It was a while ago, six, eight weeks, something like that. |
[280.22 --> 284.76] So all I did was I took the failed drive, which was a shuck drive, about two years old, |
[285.00 --> 291.66] out of the server, wrapped it in some bubble wrap in a box from, reused from Amazon, sent it across to |
[291.66 --> 298.28] Western Digital. And then a few days later, the RMA said, completed. I got an email. It didn't, |
[298.34 --> 303.68] didn't give me any, any problems whatsoever. It just changed from, we've received your item to |
[303.68 --> 311.04] completed. There was no other updates. And a few days later, what arrives? I get a brand new |
[311.04 --> 317.14] drive in a box, an unshucked hard drive. I got a Western Digital MyBook delivered. |
[317.14 --> 322.16] Unshucked, ready to go. So you sent them a shuck drive and they, so they must've realized there was, |
[322.32 --> 328.30] and they sent you back a MyBook. It feels passive aggressive almost like they know what you're up to. |
[328.72 --> 333.38] And here's the thing, right? The drive that I sent them was originally an easy store drive, |
[333.44 --> 338.24] which is a Best Buy exclusive. And they send me back a MyBook, which is not. |
[338.50 --> 338.74] Right. |
[338.88 --> 344.36] So there's been conjecture and guesswork on the internet for eons about the fact that they're |
[344.36 --> 346.88] the same drive. I guess we have some proof now. |
[347.56 --> 352.52] Yeah. It does seem like it is a data point at least. Josh, have you tried this shucking thing |
[352.52 --> 353.68] that Alex talks about all the time? |
[354.10 --> 359.10] Most definitely. I've done it both for my Synology boxes when I've grown over time. I've |
[359.10 --> 364.00] got three up to this point, one at my local place of worship and then two here in the lab. |
[364.14 --> 367.38] So both a four bay and a two bay. And I've had success with it. |
[367.38 --> 372.44] I have one drive right now that is actually my, it's my one shucked drive. It's been great. |
[372.44 --> 376.86] And that's been in production since Brent was here, which is even longer than since |
[376.86 --> 381.10] Brent was at Alex's place. We measure things in Brent time now. |
[382.32 --> 386.34] Brent standard time. BST. What could go wrong using that acronym? |
[386.76 --> 389.68] But I mean, you got a disc, right? I mean, you got to shuck it. |
[390.04 --> 394.24] Yeah. I mean, to be honest with you, I already bought the replacement because I don't like |
[394.24 --> 399.96] being down for that long. So I'll probably throw it up on eBay. If somebody wants a 12 terabyte |
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