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[923.74 --> 928.54] I recently picked up the Nanoleaf hexes and absolutely love them. Exactly. Same experience |
[928.54 --> 932.32] to where once you turned it, connected it to the network, then from there, Home Assistant just |
[932.32 --> 933.14] picked it up. No problem. |
[933.34 --> 934.38] And they're just neat looking. |
[934.72 --> 940.42] Against my better judgment, I bought some LEDs from Govi recently. I say recently, |
[940.42 --> 947.02] it was probably six months ago. And when I got them, the integration was cloud polling integration |
[947.02 --> 954.92] and it just worked just fine. About two months ago, Govi just decided to rate limit the API requests. |
[955.28 --> 961.70] And suddenly all of the lights just stopped working with Home Assistant. I opened a support ticket and |
[961.70 --> 966.22] they were like, well, we don't know what you're talking about. Like the support people just had |
[966.22 --> 972.32] no clue what even an API probably was, sadly. But thankfully, I was able to go into the integration |
[972.32 --> 977.46] and update the polling rate, which meant that now they work. They're a bit slower than they were, |
[977.56 --> 981.74] but they work at least. So yeah, let that be a lesson, kids. |
[982.32 --> 986.88] You know, if they don't want to handle the API requests, maybe they could just let the API |
[986.88 --> 991.92] requests go locally. Hmm. I mean, I'm just going to put that out there. But if your cloud service |
[991.92 --> 996.00] can't handle the customer demand, maybe you should re-architect it so it doesn't require |
[996.00 --> 1000.48] your cloud service. How would you collect the data then, Chris? That's the real question. |
[1001.20 --> 1007.06] Right. What data are you collecting on how many minutes my LED strip underneath my bed is on for? |
[1007.22 --> 1012.12] I mean, really? Because we need to calculate how much longer it's going to be until you buy the |
[1012.12 --> 1017.82] next set of LEDs, Alex. Well, there's that. But also there is sort of like this metadata information |
[1017.82 --> 1022.74] of, now they don't know if it's not automation, but most people probably are not automating these |
[1022.74 --> 1027.94] things. So they can kind of probably assume Alex was home during these times or something like that. |
[1028.00 --> 1032.42] I don't know. I don't think it's so much about collecting data with these types of vendors. |
[1032.76 --> 1039.44] I think it's more about an ecosystem that they build this mode around and they try to get you, |
[1039.52 --> 1043.74] every one of these vendors, even Nanoleaf does this, has like a million products. |
[1043.74 --> 1048.62] Like, have you looked at the Wise store recently? Oh, yeah. |
[1049.08 --> 1053.04] Have you looked at that thing, dude? Like they went from selling cameras to like, |
[1053.18 --> 1059.24] now they sell scales and stuff, like weight scales and stuff. Like they're just like everywhere, man. |
[1059.50 --> 1062.58] Everybody does this. They all want to be, they want to make a million products. |
[1063.04 --> 1067.76] The Wise store is like walking into one of those markets in Taiwan where you've got like 15 different |
[1067.76 --> 1071.86] stores at all moments and they've just gone, yeah, we'll have that. We'll have that. Yeah. |
[1071.86 --> 1077.10] We'll stick our logo on that. Yeah. We'll throw our logo on that too. And yeah. Yeah. That's fine. |
[1077.16 --> 1081.06] That'll do. We're not going to worry about the support. Like, you know, with the first gen cameras |
[1081.06 --> 1085.58] or anything, we're just going to slap a sticker on it. Right. Talk about a Trojan horse company. |
[1086.22 --> 1091.50] I think that's sort of the overall motive with these companies and their cloud only APIs and whatnot. |
[1091.88 --> 1096.70] But like, that's not how you get my loyalty. That is the business model. You're right. |
[1096.70 --> 1098.50] It is. I have to agree. |
[1126.70 --> 1133.04] It's a mesh network based around WireGuard's noise protocol. They're using like the best VPN |
[1133.04 --> 1139.02] technology in a super, super clever way. You can quickly and easily create a flat mesh network |
[1139.02 --> 1144.28] where your devices get a static IP. And if you're a maniac, you could throw like a pie hole box or a |
[1144.28 --> 1149.94] DNS server in that mix and you can actually start doing name resolution on that network. It's so great. |
[1149.94 --> 1154.52] You can also do things like share one machine with a friend like Alex and I do for some of |
[1154.52 --> 1158.14] these testing we'll do here on the shows. But you know what else they've recently introduced, |
[1158.26 --> 1162.82] which blows my mind is they've introduced a new product, a new feature, I guess, |
[1163.26 --> 1169.46] called Tailscale SSH. You can now easily manage your SSH connections with Tailnet. |
[1170.30 --> 1175.72] Tailscale SSH allows you to establish SSH connections between your devices in your Tailscale network |
[1175.72 --> 1179.84] and authorized by your access controls. You don't have to sit around and |
[1179.84 --> 1185.88] copy your keys like a caveman anymore. And it authenticates your SSH connection using WireGuard. |
[1186.12 --> 1192.80] It's so great. Tailscale is a breakthrough VPN technology. It's the kind of thing I knew they'd |
[1192.80 --> 1197.44] build once WireGuard was a thing. That's why I wanted it to be mainline for so many years, |
[1197.72 --> 1202.02] because I knew we get cool stuff like this. I've got to run on everything. My Arch servers, |
[1202.02 --> 1207.78] my Soos servers, my x86 boxes, my Raspberry Pis, my portable devices. It's on my phone right now. |
[1207.78 --> 1211.86] I always leave it connected too, because the client is really smart about what it routes to |
[1211.86 --> 1215.48] your Tailscale network versus what it routes out to the internet and stuff like that. So you're not |
[1215.48 --> 1219.02] accidentally sending every single webpage load over your Tailscale or something like that. |
[1219.42 --> 1223.20] So go try it. Support the show and get it for free up to 20 devices when you go to |
[1223.20 --> 1230.38] Tailscale.com slash self-hosted. Imagine one flat network for all your devices, your containers, |
[1230.38 --> 1235.98] your VMs, your physical devices, your mobile devices, friends, family, colleagues, all protected |
[1235.98 --> 1241.78] by WireGuard that you get up and running in minutes. Tailscale.com slash self-hosted. |
[1243.90 --> 1249.82] Now I teased at the top of the show that we have a, dare I call it a Raspberry Pi hoarder? |
[1250.06 --> 1252.34] I don't know if that's a correct word, but- |
[1252.34 --> 1252.74] Collector. |
[1253.24 --> 1254.90] Collector. Okay, let's go with that. |
[1254.90 --> 1259.48] Yeah, I mean, I don't know, Josh. I feel like you could almost create a currency based on how |
[1259.48 --> 1260.70] many Raspberry Pis you have. |
[1260.70 --> 1265.04] I don't have that many Pis. Come on now, Chris. And they are getting hard to get a hold of. |
[1265.28 --> 1269.68] Okay, tell the people, Josh, tell the people, how many Raspberry Pis do you have? |
[1269.68 --> 1277.98] So I've currently got 43 Pis and 8 Pi Picos. When we actually list these things off, it's one |
[1277.98 --> 1284.76] compute module for 13 Raspberry Pi 4s, seven Raspberry Pi 3s, three Raspberry Pi 2s, six Raspberry |
[1284.76 --> 1290.42] Pi 1s, 11 Raspberry Pi 0s, and one Raspberry Pi 0s. |
[1290.76 --> 1293.26] And a partridge in a pear tree. |
[1293.52 --> 1295.38] I forgot. There was a 400 in there as well. |
[1295.76 --> 1296.76] My goodness, Steve. |
[1296.76 --> 1297.96] Oh, sure. Yeah, you gotta have a 400. |
[1297.96 --> 1301.94] You gotta have the 400, right? That's what you can actually get a hold of nowadays, too. |
[1302.06 --> 1304.06] So you can still find those at decent price. |
[1304.16 --> 1304.88] Those are great machines. |
[1305.28 --> 1309.86] That is a lot of Raspberry Pis, whatever way you slice it. |
[1310.16 --> 1310.40] Yes. |
[1310.46 --> 1314.16] How are you going to justify having so many to us? Please. |
[1314.56 --> 1319.62] So I have been collecting these literally from the beginning. I was super excited. Before I was |
[1319.62 --> 1325.64] in working for my current employer, I wanted to get into Linux. And the Raspberry Pi was a great |
[1325.64 --> 1330.68] way to do that. And playing with Linux on the side was always fun, but you never had a dedicated |
[1330.68 --> 1335.08] machine for that. Or you'd be dual booting and wiping Windows and Linux and going back and forth. |
[1335.48 --> 1341.84] Hey, the Pi's filled that need, which was awesome. So creating their own cases. I was one of the |
[1341.84 --> 1346.22] early adopters to where when I bought them, they actually have like the misprint on there to where |
[1346.22 --> 1352.68] it's the 10 M on there instead of the 100 megabit to where it was super, super early days. So I've |
[1352.68 --> 1357.84] just been buying a couple per time they come out with a new one and then finding tasks for them. |
[1357.98 --> 1367.34] So it started off with just a thin client. And from there, I was able to use the thin client OS to go |
[1367.34 --> 1374.30] over to my ESXi instance, my Proxmox instance. Early days, 10 years ago, back when these came out back |
[1374.30 --> 1380.56] in 2011 and 2012. And then from there, I made myself a lap deck, which was the old school Motorola |
[1380.56 --> 1385.44] flip up to where you could used to go through and plug in like your own cell phone back before that |
[1385.44 --> 1391.64] was a thing. And I built my own cables to where I could have a portable Linux Raspberry Pi laptop, |
[1392.00 --> 1395.44] went to my hackerspace, went and talked about it. And it just kept on growing from there. |
[1396.00 --> 1401.26] So what was it about the Raspberry Pi platform that seems to have drawn you so early on? Because for me |
[1401.26 --> 1407.12] personally, I think it really took to the Pi 3 and definitely once the Pi 4 landed where I said |
[1407.12 --> 1412.22] to myself, this is really something I can use now. And but you kind of it seems like you honed in on a |
[1412.22 --> 1413.06] lot earlier than I did. |
[1413.56 --> 1418.38] So early adopter with it because I was young and dumb at that point because I wanted to always try |
[1418.38 --> 1424.44] the newest, latest and greatest. And hey, Raspberry Pis with with SD cards instead of being able to afford |
[1424.44 --> 1429.38] full up machines, even if you were trying to get them refurbed from like a thrift shop or whatnot, |
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