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[1429.38 --> 1435.54] you had more ecosystem, more of a community behind the Raspberry Pis than anything else you could do.
[1436.08 --> 1439.70] Very true. There was that network effect very early on in a way that most devices didn't get.
[1439.96 --> 1444.56] You must have experimented with Pi alternatives, though, right? Because as a Pi user,
[1444.60 --> 1448.36] you're constantly being told there's a much better device out there if you just bought the right device.
[1448.36 --> 1452.54] I completely agree with that. And I was young and dumb and stupid and bought many of them. And then I
[1452.54 --> 1457.98] finally figured out there's not the community. And even with like the Libre boards that were out there,
[1457.98 --> 1461.48] I backed those on Kickstarter. And when trying to get them up and running,
[1462.22 --> 1467.50] the Pi just had it. And it comes down to open source. It comes down to the open community.
[1467.76 --> 1470.86] And when you bridge those together, that's where you've got the magic sauce.
[1471.34 --> 1474.66] So that's what Raspberry Pi just did. And it kept on hitting it off for me.
[1475.04 --> 1478.70] And then I agree with you, Chris. Early days, I like, oh, I'm going to implement this.
[1478.74 --> 1483.94] It's going to be my full time desktop. Yeah, not powerful enough. Oh, I can do my Plex server on this.
[1483.94 --> 1488.94] Yeah, no, that's not powerful enough either. So I quickly learned over the years,
[1489.10 --> 1494.32] the performance that the Raspberry Pi could do would most of the time not meet the need that I
[1494.32 --> 1499.86] needed. So when the new one came out, oh, let's try this again. Hey, it worked better. We went from
[1499.86 --> 1507.86] a single core to a quad core. But that RAM, oh, that RAM hurts. No. So I agree. Once we got to the
[1507.86 --> 1514.98] Raspberry Pi 4, that's why I've got 13 of them, because they got so much more powerful.
[1515.48 --> 1525.30] So here's the thing for me, Josh. And I just, wouldn't a single virtualization server replace
[1525.30 --> 1526.70] all of these?
[1526.94 --> 1531.64] So that is a good question. Back when I was still, when I was not working from home,
[1531.64 --> 1536.50] I went through that point and saying, I'm going to virtualize everything. I got the pizza box.
[1536.84 --> 1543.18] Everything was happy go lucky. Until my wife called and said, hey, this service is down. Oh,
[1543.30 --> 1549.64] why don't you go ahead and just SSH and then just, you know, I'll be home and I'll fix it. Versus,
[1549.64 --> 1553.72] hey, go unplug the Pi, plug the Pi back in. It's working now.
[1554.08 --> 1558.88] Have you heard of our Lord and Savior tail scale? You could just VPN in and fix that bitch.
[1558.88 --> 1562.76] That should be their slogan.
[1565.50 --> 1570.36] So the significant other buy-in was part of that, to be honest with you, Alex. So some things, yes,
[1570.38 --> 1576.34] we do virtualize other things. Like when you're just getting into a network and you're trying to
[1576.34 --> 1581.90] find out more about your home network, throwing in a Raspberry Pi 4 for Pi Hole gives you so much
[1581.90 --> 1586.34] more insight of how many devices are reaching back out to the internet that you would have to buy like
[1586.34 --> 1591.64] ubiquity grade or more enterprise grade gear to start getting that insight. But let's be honest,
[1591.76 --> 1596.78] you can buy a hundred dollars worth of Raspberry Pi kit, plug it in and get that information now.
[1597.06 --> 1600.18] So how many dollars do you think you're deep into this hole then?
[1600.40 --> 1608.30] I don't want to even think about that, but I've only ever paid the MSRP. I've not gone through and
[1608.30 --> 1610.46] supported the scalpers. That's all I got to say.
[1610.46 --> 1615.78] Good for you. Good for you. If we ignore the dollars and cents, let's talk about something a
[1615.78 --> 1620.60] little more tangible because you live in the desert, right? Where heat is a problem.
[1620.94 --> 1626.02] These things are going to consume, I don't know what, 5 to 15 watts depending on what they're doing
[1626.02 --> 1626.52] each?
[1626.96 --> 1630.72] Yes. Yes, they will. And that's why I've had to go through and pick my favorite cases.
[1631.10 --> 1635.14] Because I've been collecting for so long, I buy a lot of cases. I buy a lot of hats,
[1635.14 --> 1641.62] all the Raspberry Pi cameras. And I've got to say, honestly, for my area in the desert is the
[1641.62 --> 1648.14] Villarose all aluminum cases are by far the best because it's completely passive. You're not having
[1648.14 --> 1652.20] to worry about dirt getting into it. They actually come with thermal paste to where you could go
[1652.20 --> 1658.76] through and apply it on the case itself and touch all the parts. And it keeps it clear and cool.
[1659.12 --> 1663.30] And that's literally what I have running on every single Raspberry Pi when it comes to the force.
[1663.30 --> 1667.02] Have you tried the Flirt case that also comes with a little thermal pad?
[1667.38 --> 1672.60] I have their previous Flirt cases for the three, and I still honestly prefer the Villarose.
[1672.98 --> 1675.50] Yeah, because I was thinking, you know, I definitely have been in situations where
[1675.50 --> 1679.60] it gets really, really hot and those Raspberry Pis are definitely at like thermal throttle levels.
[1680.14 --> 1683.38] So that would be good. All right. Send me a link to that. I'll try to add that to the show notes.
[1683.82 --> 1688.74] There's a Geekworm one that I really like that is all aluminum as well. And that does
[1688.74 --> 1694.44] completely passive cooling. And that's what's just there on the live stream, running that 3D printer
[1694.44 --> 1699.12] back there doing Octoprint. Speaking of the live stream, I loved FOSS accountants comment
[1699.12 --> 1704.82] in here. I no longer need to feel bad about having an unused eight gigabyte Pi 4 in my drawer.
[1706.46 --> 1712.52] So used Pis versus if they're actively being, if they're just sitting in a drawer sad, or if they
[1712.52 --> 1716.80] have a project waiting for them, how many you have in production versus how many you have just
[1716.80 --> 1720.94] sitting around are two different things. So I mean, there's still naming and shaming that should
[1720.94 --> 1723.00] be going on there if they're just sitting in a drawer.
[1724.02 --> 1729.56] I agree. I agree. I got, I agree. I got, I got more projects than I got Pis at this point. I need
[1729.56 --> 1730.02] more Pis.
[1730.26 --> 1734.88] So speaking of projects, right, we've talked about Pi Hole. We've talked about Thing Clients. There
[1734.88 --> 1736.64] must be some other stuff you use these things for.
[1737.02 --> 1741.24] Like I said, the lap deck was one of them. Being into the security side of the house as well,
[1741.88 --> 1746.60] standing up your own pen testing box or a Cali instance where you can slap that in there.
[1746.80 --> 1750.70] Before Cali was officially supported, there were other earlier spins that was like called the
[1750.70 --> 1756.28] Pwn Pi or Sticky Fingers. There's also the damn vulnerable Pi. So if you needed to pen test against
[1756.28 --> 1760.66] something, you could do that as well. If you're more into the Wi-Fi hacking and tracking, you've
[1760.66 --> 1764.56] got the Kismet Pi. Lots of different projects when it comes to the security side of the house.
[1765.00 --> 1767.76] There's a link to all these different projects in the show notes, by the way.
[1768.02 --> 1773.48] Along with that, getting my kids also into computing. That was their onboarding process to where
[1773.48 --> 1779.14] we went from going to a Maker Faire to, hey, here's the older Raspberry Pi. So I'd get the
[1779.14 --> 1785.74] brand new one. It would be implemented into my new project and then I'd give them the old one.
[1785.84 --> 1790.28] They'd have to learn to go plug in all the cables. I wasn't going to completely cry over if they
[1790.28 --> 1796.24] plugged in the HDMI wrong and broke something to where it was a spare Pi, but they got real life
[1796.24 --> 1799.82] experience with it. And then that actually helped them later on to where they could build up their
[1799.82 --> 1805.56] full-up machines and then move it, unplug it, replug it back in and know the components well.
[1806.06 --> 1810.58] So talk to me a little bit about this SDR monitor station that's in the list. I've kind of wanted
[1810.58 --> 1814.04] to get into software-defined radio for some time. What do you do with it?
[1814.46 --> 1819.54] So these ones are set up for different use cases on if you're tracking aircraft. I'm also curious to
[1819.54 --> 1823.12] have more of these implemented now that I'm starting with Home Assistant and using the Zigbee side of
[1823.12 --> 1828.66] the house. When you get into SDR, you can start with the RTL SDR, which is like starts at 20 bucks.
[1829.26 --> 1833.42] Those are my understanding as over in Europe, you would go through and use these to receive
[1833.42 --> 1838.28] TV signals. But here in the States, you can go through and pick those same things up,
[1838.36 --> 1843.20] use a couple of specialized pieces of software and track aircraft. You can go through and see
[1843.20 --> 1848.76] other things that are talking, anything from some cell phone, depending on which bandwidth that
[1848.76 --> 1853.52] you're looking at, which antennas that you have, all the way up to you can buy a dedicated software
[1853.52 --> 1859.62] defined radio like the HackRF. And then you have a huge area that you can go through and listen to
[1859.62 --> 1865.46] where anything from the FM, like 900 or the 90 megahertz, all the way up to the six gigahertz range.
[1865.68 --> 1869.68] For me, I'm only listening because I don't have my hand license. So I'm not going through and
[1869.68 --> 1873.44] injecting anything that goes to the, you need to go have a hand license if you want to start
[1873.44 --> 1877.98] transmitting. So what can you do with that? Once you've listened to a certain
[1877.98 --> 1884.70] frequency and got some information, like I get the fact that you see the pretty graph with the
[1884.70 --> 1889.80] nice colors and the shadow traces of all the stuff, but then what? What do you do with it?
[1890.18 --> 1895.06] What I want to go through and do with it is set up a tracking to where if something is moving within
[1895.06 --> 1898.90] my yard, this is one of the ways to go through and do that. You can do that partly with Wi-Fi,
[1898.90 --> 1903.96] you can do that with these other ones as well. Oh, cool. So making more of that map to where you can
[1903.96 --> 1908.26] go through and find out how closely can you track this. If I've got an evil mother-in-law
[1908.26 --> 1910.60] walking under the property, I want alarms to be going off.
[1913.00 --> 1916.14] I mean, I was thinking actually, you know, if you had an F-16 land in your front yard,