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[1194.94 --> 1201.70] And I don't know if a EULA would really constitute a genuine admission of my consent to do this.
[1202.52 --> 1204.06] Google will probably argue the opposite.
[1204.92 --> 1208.44] But without some kind of a court order, this feels like a stretch to me.
[1208.44 --> 1212.92] Yeah, so I know that the Fourth Amendment and those protections apply to anything the state does.
[1213.04 --> 1214.78] The state would not be able to just do this.
[1214.98 --> 1220.02] But we've privatized this now with Google and, of course, with all these other tech companies.
[1220.28 --> 1223.62] And I do know that the lines there are a lot less clear.
[1224.26 --> 1230.00] And so the beauty thing is, is there's this just not-my-problem-legal situation that Google's in
[1230.00 --> 1234.00] and that the state is in, where Google can collect all the information and use it,
[1234.00 --> 1235.50] infinitum, for their own value.
[1235.96 --> 1242.08] And then they also have all the incentives in the world to share that data with law enforcement
[1242.08 --> 1246.10] at the lowest friction way possible, in the most efficient way possible.
[1246.42 --> 1246.60] Right?
[1246.66 --> 1248.98] That's their incentive structure, for obvious reasons.
[1249.24 --> 1254.12] And I don't think that's going to change because both parties involved,
[1254.12 --> 1258.84] both the business and the state, are very satisfied with this arrangement.
[1258.84 --> 1259.70] You know?
[1260.10 --> 1265.96] Alex, it's been a long time since I have seen a tech story that actually genuinely gave me chills.
[1266.82 --> 1267.18] Right?
[1267.28 --> 1269.50] I mean, I've been like, oh, I've been outraged or whatever.
[1269.60 --> 1271.68] But like, actually, like, oh, no.
[1272.98 --> 1273.40] Uh-oh.
[1273.80 --> 1279.18] Like, it's, we are already, all of us that are dads that have ever taken pictures of our kids
[1279.18 --> 1281.60] in the bath or anything like that, we are all now at risk.
[1282.20 --> 1282.90] All of us.
[1282.90 --> 1287.38] And we just walked right into it, even though we've been talking about the risks for years.
[1287.90 --> 1289.16] I've thought a lot about this.
[1289.24 --> 1294.92] And I've realized the truth is these services have a lot of upside.
[1295.90 --> 1297.18] They have a lot of it.
[1297.28 --> 1298.46] They have a lot of reach.
[1298.72 --> 1299.92] They have a lot of features.
[1300.70 --> 1302.58] There's just a lot of upside to them.
[1302.92 --> 1306.52] Google Photos is very, very tempting because they manage the storage.
[1306.52 --> 1310.74] They manage the replication in their servers and their data centers.
[1310.74 --> 1312.62] They manage the bandwidth.
[1313.70 --> 1315.38] And they're kind of just doing it automatically.
[1315.54 --> 1316.82] So you don't even have to think about it.
[1316.92 --> 1320.22] And that, like, as a parent, like, the last thing you ever want to lose is your pictures.
[1320.94 --> 1323.92] You know, if your whole house burned down, but you save nothing but your pictures, you'd
[1323.92 --> 1325.22] say, well, at least I still have my pictures.
[1325.66 --> 1325.82] Right?
[1325.88 --> 1326.84] Like, that's, they're critical.
[1327.24 --> 1331.76] You kind of just get pushed into it because it's the default, both on iOS and on Android.
[1332.30 --> 1334.98] Because this is eventually going to be happening on iOS as well.
[1335.50 --> 1338.60] You just set up the phone by default and all these things are on.
[1338.60 --> 1341.36] And they're just kind of like, well, why not leave them on?
[1341.40 --> 1342.70] Because my photos, they're important.
[1343.24 --> 1348.40] One of the worst aspects of this, which we kind of already touched on, though, is that
[1348.40 --> 1353.72] even though law enforcement said this chap was not guilty of committing a crime, he still
[1353.72 --> 1355.06] doesn't have his Gmail account back.
[1355.38 --> 1358.88] Google have told the New York Times they stand by these decisions.
[1359.36 --> 1362.64] And this guy will be locked out, I presume, forever.
[1362.82 --> 1363.20] That's it.
[1363.22 --> 1363.58] He's done.
[1363.88 --> 1366.64] Yeah, the response was just like, well, we find child porn to be abhorrent.
[1366.64 --> 1367.78] And who could argue with that?
[1367.84 --> 1369.26] That's a perfectly rational statement.
[1369.46 --> 1371.20] Won't somebody think of the children?
[1372.20 --> 1373.50] That's how it always starts, though.
[1373.98 --> 1379.92] I think my baseline advice now is if you're going to use Google services, if you're going
[1379.92 --> 1385.00] to be dependent on Google services, you have got to have a valid backup.
[1385.24 --> 1386.90] Valid backup for anything that's important.
[1387.02 --> 1387.94] Email, calendar.
[1388.68 --> 1389.62] You've got to have it.
[1389.62 --> 1393.60] You know, and I guess that's that's the bare minimum.
[1393.60 --> 1401.02] But both in the case of Plex and in the case of Google Photos and all that, I am I feel
[1401.02 --> 1402.80] like the math has just changed for me.
[1403.32 --> 1405.54] I think it's time to give PhotoPRISM another try.
[1405.62 --> 1409.06] I think it's time to really try to not use Google Photos at all.
[1409.18 --> 1412.28] I took a break for a while and then I got back on and then I took a break for a while
[1412.28 --> 1413.28] and then I got back on.
[1413.28 --> 1414.94] But this is too far for me.
[1415.06 --> 1420.60] This is if if if I don't pay attention to this red flag and then something happens to
[1420.60 --> 1420.86] me.
[1421.82 --> 1423.58] What kind of an idiot am I going to feel like?
[1423.76 --> 1427.76] What kind of an ultimate idiot like this is like I've got to pay attention to these
[1427.76 --> 1432.26] warning signs because the thing that seems to be clear and I'm curious to know if you
[1432.26 --> 1432.54] agree.
[1433.76 --> 1436.48] I'm not happy to say this, but it's getting worse.
[1437.48 --> 1440.90] And the longer you participate and the more data you give it.
[1441.66 --> 1442.86] The worse you make it.
[1442.86 --> 1449.54] Like in the case of my Google account, I got a Gmail account within nine months of Gmail
[1449.54 --> 1450.20] launching beta.
[1451.00 --> 1458.40] I have Gmail chats with my ex-wife Angela when we were still like just meeting.
[1458.70 --> 1459.22] Right.
[1459.36 --> 1459.86] I mean.
[1460.72 --> 1467.88] I have an entire relationship's worth of history in that Google chat and I feel like I got to
[1467.88 --> 1469.76] I got to purge everything.
[1469.76 --> 1474.02] I'm starting to feel a little more like Richard Stallman.
[1474.14 --> 1475.78] Like I need to go off grid almost.
[1475.94 --> 1476.44] And it's.
[1476.44 --> 1476.88] Yeah.
[1477.18 --> 1477.38] Yeah.
[1477.44 --> 1481.96] You know, between because the other the other the other risk with Plex, Alex, and I think
[1481.96 --> 1484.64] the real risk with Plex, they're going to get sold.
[1484.64 --> 1489.36] They're going to get sold to a major entertainment company and then they're going to have all
[1489.36 --> 1493.28] our metadata about what's on our servers, about what we're watching, about what our watch
[1493.28 --> 1495.10] habits are, because, you know, they're collecting all of that.
[1495.98 --> 1496.40] That's.
[1496.52 --> 1500.02] And then with Google, the risk is that they're just going to get more invasive.