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[514.90 --> 516.46] At least that was the terms that were given to me. |
[516.74 --> 517.84] And that's their goal. |
[517.94 --> 518.18] Right. |
[518.20 --> 521.44] They want to they want to be the YouTube or Netflix of podcasting. |
[521.44 --> 524.86] And so that's why I ultimately unsubscribed. |
[525.02 --> 542.14] And that's why I've begun promoting the podcast index at podcast index dot org and podcasting 2.0 and the new podcasts apps dot com and value for value lightning payments to the to the shows via these apps, because we have to embrace decentralized solutions that you can host yourself. |
[542.80 --> 547.96] In the podcast industry, like as podcasters that are technically capable of it, it's something I've had to double down on. |
[547.96 --> 550.82] And that's why I canceled Spotify, because they're trying to wreck an industry. |
[550.82 --> 555.12] But I am glad to see more people realizing that they have issues. |
[555.96 --> 568.04] We didn't actually cover the reason why Neil issued an ultimatum, which was, in his opinion, Joe Rogan was spreading COVID misinformation, anti-vax stuff, you know, stuff like that. |
[568.04 --> 576.42] And so for me, as a triple vaxed guy, I just think, come on, how are we not past this kind of nonsense yet? |
[576.56 --> 579.76] Just do the right thing for society, you know? |
[579.76 --> 584.40] I also, you know, I also can't imagine. |
[584.84 --> 586.38] But I mean, I imagine it does happen. |
[586.80 --> 589.76] People aren't seriously taking medical advice from Joe Rogan, but I imagine it does. |
[589.90 --> 590.74] I bet you'd be surprised. |
[591.28 --> 591.44] Yeah. |
[592.64 --> 596.78] So that whole thing, you know, in this it could be a Joe Rogan thing. |
[596.78 --> 605.46] I mean, it really fast forward five years, there will be some other big thing that's like this huge existential crisis that all of us are freaking out about. |
[605.96 --> 611.54] And, you know, Spotify, again, could make a decision where it's once again screwing the customers in some way. |
[611.58 --> 613.20] Like there wasn't really a great scenario for them. |
[613.26 --> 614.22] They couldn't get rid of Joe. |
[614.88 --> 616.30] You know, so there wasn't a great scenario. |
[616.30 --> 620.24] But it just highlights this core issue that I think this show can address so well. |
[620.32 --> 627.44] And I think the music one is one that we should probably readdress because we've each kind of changed or at least evolved our thoughts on it a little bit. |
[627.80 --> 627.90] Yeah. |
[627.98 --> 629.14] So I haven't pirated. |
[629.30 --> 636.64] In fact, I haven't mentioned piracy on this show at all very, very deliberately because I think it's an angle of self-hosting that is very well covered elsewhere. |
[636.88 --> 640.08] And I really don't want to get into it on this show. |
[640.08 --> 653.70] But I think times like this kind of highlight the importance of owning or having your own stuff, truly the importance of having a local copy that nobody can delete from your hard drive or whatever it is, if you actually care about it, I suppose. |
[654.20 --> 661.14] And so what I've done is I've been using a tool called LiDAR recently, and I haven't been pirating music in the traditional sense. |
[661.24 --> 662.90] So I've still been paying some money. |
[663.00 --> 667.60] So I found a plugin called Automatic Music Downloader. |
[667.60 --> 677.68] There'll be a link in the show notes, which is a script which plugs into LiDAR, but it also plugs into something called Deezer, which is a competitor to Apple Music and Spotify. |
[678.32 --> 683.34] And Deezer HiFi is a $15 a month subscription for lossless audio. |
[683.84 --> 691.92] And so for me as a music nerd, audiophile, self-confessed, you know, I have some lovely floor standing speakers and expensive headphones, all the rest of it. |
[692.16 --> 693.26] I like lossless audio. |
[693.44 --> 694.32] I can hear the difference. |
[694.40 --> 695.28] I've done A-B testing. |
[695.86 --> 697.36] I just, I like it. |
[697.36 --> 697.66] Okay. |
[697.86 --> 708.70] And so for me, I want to be able to have a local copy of all that music that I listen to pretty much the same stuff over and over again on Spotify anyway, locally. |
[708.70 --> 721.02] And so for me, this walks, this whole setup walks a fine line between piracy and kind of not, I mean, I'm sure it's against their terms of service to do this, but I'm still paying money to Deezer. |
[721.22 --> 724.16] And therefore I assume that each download counts as a play. |
[724.16 --> 727.28] So the artist still gets some recognition as well. |
[727.92 --> 729.10] So what do you think on that? |
[729.10 --> 738.86] Man, I think you've really hit the sweet spot, you know, because you want something that's going to tie in with whatever management system you've chosen to use, right? |
[738.92 --> 742.26] Like anything else you bought would be an app with a store that's integrated. |
[742.26 --> 746.44] You want something that's almost like music as a service via an API. |
[746.70 --> 749.70] And that's kind of basically what you've built here. |
[750.34 --> 751.46] Oh man, this is great. |
[751.46 --> 763.06] I think if I could pay a dollar an album or maybe even a bit more, to be honest with you, and there was a service that integrated just as well with all of my automation for media collection, I'd probably pay it. |
[763.38 --> 767.90] And so for me at the moment, anyway, that price is $15 a month to do it semi-legally. |
[768.28 --> 774.86] So, you know, the ethics of the whole situation are a little questionable, but for me, I'm comfortable with making that kind of concession. |
[774.86 --> 777.66] What this doesn't solve, though, is the front end. |
[778.22 --> 782.32] And we talked a little bit a few episodes ago about Plexamp when it came out. |
[782.38 --> 783.24] I think it was about a year ago. |
[783.48 --> 786.70] And I have been using the crap out of Plexamp for the last month or so. |
[786.90 --> 788.00] It is fantastic. |
[788.22 --> 789.56] They've done loads of little updates. |
[790.14 --> 794.98] And I've got to say, you know, I'm not really missing Spotify at all. |
[795.98 --> 797.00] Yeah, you got to see this app. |
[797.18 --> 798.36] We'll have a link in the show notes. |
[798.60 --> 799.40] You got to see this. |
[799.50 --> 804.24] They've also released, I don't know if we've covered this on the show, but they've released a Linux app image. |
[804.24 --> 809.44] So you can actually use it on the Linux desktop, Mac, Windows, Android, iOS. |
[810.20 --> 811.42] It's so great. |
[811.80 --> 815.70] And I'm happy to report that I've tested the offline playback, which is a huge feature for me. |
[815.82 --> 816.70] I love that. |
[817.44 --> 819.48] So, yeah, OK, I'm seeing this. |
[819.62 --> 821.62] This is like a whole new world coming together for me. |
[821.88 --> 823.32] You're opening my eyes, Alex. |
[823.64 --> 824.88] I'm seeing a new world. |
[825.32 --> 830.44] I mean, it does rely on Plex, which I'm sure most people listening to this podcast have access to a Plex server somewhere. |
[830.44 --> 842.04] But the thing I really like about Plex amp is it has this whole kind of concept, I guess, that they borrowed from the Spotify ethos of the related artists, the recommended mixes, recent playlists, all that kind of stuff. |
[842.14 --> 848.78] So the more you use it, the more tailored the recommendations get to what you're sort of in the mood for that week. |
[848.82 --> 850.18] And I really like that about it. |
[850.18 --> 857.46] I have tried the Finamp, which is a Jellyfin music player, kind of in the spirit of Plex amp. |
[857.74 --> 857.82] Yeah. |
[858.06 --> 858.68] Not as good. |
[858.76 --> 859.50] No, of course not. |
[859.56 --> 860.42] But it's open source. |
[860.56 --> 861.74] It is an F-Droid as well. |
[861.82 --> 863.90] You can just get the APK and it works. |
[864.60 --> 867.58] You know, so if you want to use Jellyfin as your back end server, you totally can. |
[867.92 --> 869.32] It's just not quite the same experience. |
[869.40 --> 870.74] But I'll toss a link in the show notes. |
[872.42 --> 874.24] Linode.com slash SSH. |
[874.40 --> 878.06] Go there to get $100 in 60-day credit and you go there to support the show. |
[878.06 --> 880.54] So Linode is how we host everything up in the cloud. |
[880.64 --> 883.32] And some jobs just work better up in the cloud. |
[883.74 --> 887.10] And if you're thinking maybe it's time to try out Nextcloud, I highly recommend it. |
[887.12 --> 891.42] We've been using Nextcloud on Linode for over two years with their object storage as our back end. |
[892.04 --> 897.98] Now, Linode themselves, they started in 2003, one of the very first companies in cloud computing. |
[898.50 --> 906.92] And now, 18 years later, Linode is the largest independent open cloud provider in the world with 11 global data centers serving nearly a million customers and businesses. |
[906.92 --> 908.50] around the globe. |
[909.16 --> 910.32] But Linode's remained focused. |
[910.82 --> 911.74] They stayed competitive. |
[912.46 --> 916.00] And they've made cloud computing simple, affordable, and accessible to all. |
[916.52 --> 920.82] It really is the best-in-class experience performance-wise, options-wise. |
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