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[2814.84 --> 2817.98] It's a big task with very ambitious goals
[2817.98 --> 2819.70] to basically be a new communications layer
[2819.70 --> 2820.98] for the internet that's a brand standard,
[2821.02 --> 2821.88] you know, it's a standard everywhere.
[2822.30 --> 2822.98] Big goals.
[2822.98 --> 2824.92] But if we look at where they're at today,
[2825.62 --> 2828.54] you know, they're basically not even on the radar
[2828.54 --> 2830.12] of the muggles.
[2830.30 --> 2832.28] You know, they're nothing compared to Snapchat
[2832.28 --> 2835.16] or iMessage or even Telegram.
[2835.78 --> 2838.50] Again, love Matrix, highlight of my year.
[2839.12 --> 2839.74] Love it.
[2840.04 --> 2841.12] But I have to be real.
[2841.42 --> 2843.96] Like they're not relevant in that space right now.
[2844.16 --> 2845.50] And so they have to operate
[2845.50 --> 2847.12] with the reality of the ground
[2847.12 --> 2849.78] and the actual dynamics of the marketplace today.
[2849.96 --> 2851.20] Not these lofty goals
[2851.20 --> 2852.78] of being the size of the Linux foundation
[2852.78 --> 2855.16] and hiring hundreds of people, right?
[2855.18 --> 2856.14] That's just not where we're at,
[2856.18 --> 2857.96] especially to your point, Alex,
[2858.66 --> 2860.18] in this market now,
[2860.24 --> 2861.56] where funding is really tight.
[2862.50 --> 2864.64] And so I'm a little worried
[2864.64 --> 2865.42] that they're kind of,
[2866.30 --> 2867.22] maybe they're in the wrong,
[2867.54 --> 2869.14] maybe I think they've got the wrong idea.
[2869.24 --> 2870.10] I don't know how to put it.
[2870.26 --> 2871.26] I mean, who knows?
[2871.40 --> 2872.06] What do I know?
[2872.06 --> 2873.90] Do you think they were trying to go
[2873.90 --> 2875.78] after the same market as Slack,
[2876.16 --> 2878.56] say, with that kind of 100,000 price tag?
[2878.64 --> 2879.98] Because that seems a price tag,
[2880.16 --> 2881.10] you know, certainly as an individual,
[2881.22 --> 2883.26] that's just never going to happen.
[2883.76 --> 2884.86] Yeah, it's for companies
[2884.86 --> 2886.40] that are maybe going to build a product.
[2886.70 --> 2887.80] It's like the Linux foundation.
[2887.98 --> 2889.24] You know, Microsoft buys in
[2889.24 --> 2890.38] and Samsung buys in
[2890.38 --> 2891.36] and VMware buys in
[2891.36 --> 2892.78] because they're all shipping products now
[2892.78 --> 2893.72] that use Linux.
[2893.94 --> 2895.40] That's how they generate their revenue.
[2895.62 --> 2896.76] And so they want to have
[2896.76 --> 2897.88] a little bit of influence
[2897.88 --> 2899.44] in the features that get developed.
[2899.66 --> 2901.18] And if you want that kind of say,
[2901.18 --> 2901.82] you got to pay.
[2902.24 --> 2903.00] And that's how the foundation,
[2903.10 --> 2904.06] Linux foundation makes money.
[2904.54 --> 2905.90] I mean, if I go to matrix.org
[2905.90 --> 2906.72] slash supporters,
[2907.08 --> 2910.22] there are a handful of supporters on there
[2910.22 --> 2911.44] and a big red,
[2911.64 --> 2913.34] I want to become a Patreon.
[2913.94 --> 2915.84] And if I look on their Patreon page,
[2916.08 --> 2918.28] patreon.com slash matrix.org
[2918.28 --> 2920.82] as words, not characters or anything,
[2921.12 --> 2923.68] they have two goals on their Patreon
[2923.68 --> 2924.84] that I can see.
[2925.26 --> 2926.42] Both have been reached.
[2926.60 --> 2928.08] One is 2,500 a month.
[2928.16 --> 2929.46] The other one is 5,000 a month.
[2929.46 --> 2932.64] So as a curious open source supporter,
[2933.08 --> 2933.78] hypothetically,
[2934.10 --> 2935.50] I go to this website
[2935.50 --> 2936.24] and I look at it
[2936.24 --> 2936.58] and I say,
[2936.66 --> 2937.56] how do I support matrix?
[2937.68 --> 2938.48] And I look at the goals
[2938.48 --> 2939.86] and they say they've achieved their goals.
[2939.90 --> 2941.28] And I think, great, they're fine.
[2941.96 --> 2942.80] So, you know,
[2942.84 --> 2944.10] when I look at this blog post
[2944.10 --> 2945.40] and it says the complete opposite
[2945.40 --> 2946.80] to we've reached our goal,
[2947.62 --> 2949.06] those two things don't marry up.
[2949.10 --> 2950.04] So perhaps there's something
[2950.04 --> 2950.74] they could do there.
[2951.26 --> 2952.66] I would imagine that,
[2952.66 --> 2953.40] you know,
[2953.50 --> 2954.02] Patreon,
[2954.16 --> 2955.02] you get in this weird spot
[2955.02 --> 2956.30] with Patreon really,
[2956.58 --> 2957.76] where you get in
[2957.76 --> 2958.74] because it seems like a good idea.
[2958.74 --> 2959.60] You got the network effect
[2959.60 --> 2961.08] and it doesn't really fit.
[2961.52 --> 2961.64] You know,
[2961.64 --> 2963.20] they're making 7,200 bucks a month
[2963.20 --> 2963.70] from this thing,
[2963.78 --> 2965.38] but that number isn't legitimate.
[2965.52 --> 2965.94] I can tell you,
[2966.00 --> 2966.62] I've been using Patreon
[2966.62 --> 2968.88] since it was a public website.
[2969.98 --> 2971.72] So you could take 6 to 10%
[2971.72 --> 2973.68] as much as 20% off that number