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[1442.36 --> 1446.52] Obviously, I've got offsite backups in England for the rest of my backup methodology. |
[1446.80 --> 1454.00] But this is to save me having to mail a hard drive from England instead of uploading eight, nine, ten terabytes, whatever it is. |
[1454.32 --> 1456.52] Yeah. Pipe bursts. You don't really want to have to go through all that. |
[1456.58 --> 1457.62] And if you got the hardware, why not? |
[1457.62 --> 1464.28] Exactly. So what I thought I'd do for the purposes of this segment was install TrueNow Scale on that backup box. |
[1464.48 --> 1470.06] So I fired it up yesterday evening, installed the ISO, pretty painless. |
[1470.16 --> 1473.12] I did it through the IPMI interface of the ASRock board I'm using. |
[1473.86 --> 1476.84] Install was six minutes, something like that. |
[1476.96 --> 1479.50] Really fast, painless, ZFS en route. |
[1480.36 --> 1482.88] Great. Done. Booted. Got an IP address straight away. |
[1483.02 --> 1485.20] Everything was detected. All my drives could be seen. |
[1485.20 --> 1491.10] And first thing the operating system tells me when it boots is update available. |
[1491.72 --> 1494.56] I'm like, it was released yesterday. |
[1495.04 --> 1496.68] I just downloaded the ISO. |
[1497.16 --> 1499.56] And we're not talking small updates. |
[1499.72 --> 1502.48] We're talking, you know, the ISO is two gig or something. |
[1502.72 --> 1505.48] We're talking another 1.3 gigs worth of updates. |
[1505.48 --> 1509.62] And I'm like, couldn't you have just rolled that into the ISO that you released yesterday? |
[1510.26 --> 1511.10] That's the whole thing. |
[1511.94 --> 1513.30] Yeah. Yeah. |
[1513.30 --> 1515.90] Maybe they froze the image a little bit ago or something. |
[1516.30 --> 1518.90] Maybe. Right. I was like, fine. Screw it. Doesn't matter. |
[1519.28 --> 1520.68] I'll do the update. Press the button. |
[1521.56 --> 1525.22] Then I'm presented with an error message that says, cannot downgrade. |
[1525.74 --> 1534.28] Release 22.02.0 cannot be downgraded to release 22.0.release. |
[1534.28 --> 1539.76] And I think, man, if this is a sign of things to come, they just haven't checked the string, |
[1539.84 --> 1544.52] you know, logic that's doing the passing of the logic about which updates the newer one there. |
[1544.58 --> 1549.70] I'm thinking, okay, that's a fairly basic mistake to make, but sure. |
[1549.80 --> 1550.56] Fine. We're human. |
[1550.70 --> 1551.72] Okay, cool. No problem. |
[1552.26 --> 1554.24] I go to the storage tab next. |
[1554.24 --> 1559.54] And I think, right, I need some storage before I can actually even test out any of the features. |
[1559.68 --> 1570.08] I need a ZFS pool in which to put my KVM virtual machines and my containers that I can now run on top of TrueNAS Scale because it's a proper operating system. |
[1570.62 --> 1572.66] I'm just trying to trigger the BSD nerds there. |
[1572.66 --> 1574.58] Wait, that was a totally factual statement. |
[1574.84 --> 1575.72] What's, I understand. |
[1576.22 --> 1578.84] Fortunately, my ZFS pool showed up straight away. |
[1579.36 --> 1580.78] You know, the backups pool was there. |
[1581.04 --> 1582.04] Both drives were detected. |
[1582.66 --> 1583.54] I click import. |
[1584.36 --> 1586.16] It looks like it's doing something. |
[1586.86 --> 1591.98] And on Proxmox, this process takes 20 seconds, at most 25. |
[1592.76 --> 1598.68] That time elapses and I'm sort of, you know, watching the progress bar spin. |
[1598.68 --> 1604.40] And then another minute goes by and I'm like, okay, this is taking a bit longer than I thought. |
[1604.68 --> 1607.68] Another minute goes by and nothing's happening. |
[1608.14 --> 1608.56] Uh-oh. |
[1608.98 --> 1612.40] So then I drop to the command line, try and figure out what's going on. |
[1613.04 --> 1617.98] Do a Z pool import list and it shows me all the available pools, including my backups pool. |
[1618.08 --> 1623.84] And I'm like, okay, I'll reboot the box just in case that failed update did something silly. |
[1624.24 --> 1626.70] I didn't do the GUI this time. |
[1626.70 --> 1629.96] I just went straight to the command line, did a Z pool import backups. |
[1630.40 --> 1631.56] It imported the pool. |
[1631.96 --> 1633.02] And I'm like, okay, cool. |
[1633.14 --> 1633.56] No problem. |
[1633.80 --> 1634.48] Z pool list. |
[1634.64 --> 1634.82] Bang. |
[1634.96 --> 1635.56] Straight, straight away. |
[1635.64 --> 1636.04] There it is. |
[1636.68 --> 1637.74] Go to the UI. |
[1638.58 --> 1638.94] Nothing. |
[1639.52 --> 1642.36] So I reboot just in case there's some kind of mismatch there. |
[1642.96 --> 1643.32] Nope. |
[1643.48 --> 1644.62] We need to import the pool again. |
[1644.88 --> 1645.62] And I'm like, oh. |
[1646.12 --> 1647.86] Is it because you're doing it on the command line? |
[1648.04 --> 1650.80] Is there some GUI command to import a pool that maybe you have to use? |
[1651.12 --> 1651.70] Who knows? |
[1651.86 --> 1655.56] I mean, good luck Googling anything for this thing right now because it's so brand new. |
[1655.56 --> 1662.20] And obviously the SEO behind TrueNAS is the last five years of TrueNAS core and FreeNAS before it. |
[1662.38 --> 1670.42] And if I'm honest with you, Chris, I love the audience, but I don't love them enough to waste more than three or four hours trying to figure this thing out. |
[1670.66 --> 1674.42] And eventually after that time elapsed, I was like, screw this. |
[1674.48 --> 1675.46] I'm going back to Proxmox. |
[1675.50 --> 1677.94] I'm going to run my Ansible script and get things back up and running. |
[1677.94 --> 1682.74] So yeah, ultimately, TrueNAS scale was a massive fail for me. |
[1682.96 --> 1689.08] I have typically struggled with these types of products and I often end up just going back to basics. |
[1689.66 --> 1695.90] And I think it's kind of unfortunate because in some ways these guys can unlock stuff for me that I don't even know how to do. |
[1695.90 --> 1703.28] I also feel like there's a spectrum of user that probably prefers something like this, you know, and it works better for them as well. |
[1703.34 --> 1705.56] And I wish I could kind of get my head in that space. |
[1705.88 --> 1713.60] I was tempted for a brief moment to deploy it here at the studio and base our stuff on all that because, well, you know, we were just going to build this YOLO setup. |
[1713.60 --> 1725.14] It was like this crazy cross three system storage array and, you know, maybe even no redundancy, just tons of disks and stupid stuff like that that just has no sensible use. |
[1726.16 --> 1728.48] And then we started thinking, well, what if we wanted to do the opposite? |
[1728.62 --> 1731.12] What if we really wanted to build this thing to be reliable? |
[1731.12 --> 1734.00] We're like, you know, there's failover and all that kind of stuff. |
[1734.00 --> 1737.44] And I got to say, it's on my list of things to consider. |
[1737.98 --> 1748.64] But what my preferred route would be to just build it really simple, build it basic and probably, you know, manage it with something like Ansible. |
[1749.20 --> 1752.82] The simpler you go, the easier it is to recover from a failure too. |
[1752.82 --> 1760.84] Like in my pipe burst scenario, all I have to do is a ZFS send from one box to another and I'm back to where I was. |
[1760.84 --> 1772.80] I think it's very likely too that if you were to check back in, say, I don't know, in episode 85 and see where Chunaz scale is at, I bet you'd be in a totally different state, right? |
[1773.00 --> 1777.74] Even though they've been working on this since 2020, this is a massive reworking of the product. |
[1778.10 --> 1783.36] And it's going to be a little while before it's probably fully, fully cooked. |
[1783.36 --> 1791.12] And I think they even consider it that, like, if you look at like their presentations on this, they're kind of positioning it for more early adopters at this point. |
[1791.44 --> 1795.50] There's a difference between fully cooked and not importing the basic storage pools though. |
[1797.58 --> 1800.26] Tailscale.com slash self hosted. |
[1800.50 --> 1803.08] Go there to get a free personal account for up to 20 devices. |
[1803.24 --> 1805.08] And of course, you support the show. |
[1805.24 --> 1808.38] What I love about tailscale is that it's zero config VPN. |
[1808.38 --> 1814.34] I think it's going to blow your mind how fast you can get this thing set up and then it just runs. |
[1814.58 --> 1818.54] It connects all your devices directly using WireGuard's noise protocol. |
[1818.88 --> 1823.40] So it's as tough as WireGuard, but it's a mesh network. |
[1823.62 --> 1831.82] I was using it today to connect back to LadyJupe's to check in on the Raspberry Pi because I started getting some errors with Uptime Kuma. |
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