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[4572.82 --> 4577.60] And also with Simon Willis, if I remember correctly, the guy that created Django.
[4577.92 --> 4579.22] And now he's a lot into AI.
[4579.78 --> 4581.66] Anyway, keep on doing what you're doing.
[4581.80 --> 4582.88] I'm a huge supporter.
[4583.44 --> 4584.58] And, well, happy new year.
[4585.08 --> 4586.54] Happy new year to you as well.
[4586.54 --> 4590.74] So, Simon Willis, multi-time guest this year, I believe.
[4591.04 --> 4592.08] LLMs break the internet.
[4593.16 --> 4594.22] That was a classic.
[4594.64 --> 4596.38] Corey Doctorow, of course, has had a few mentions.
[4597.12 --> 4599.14] He was on twice, as we mentioned.
[4599.66 --> 4603.86] The one in the spring and one in the fall most recently was the pushing back on constrained capitalism.
[4604.36 --> 4607.32] If I'm honest, those two episodes, I go back to the first one more.
[4607.32 --> 4612.28] I just really loved the conversation about chickenized reverse centaurs.
[4612.50 --> 4614.56] And that whole bit was very fascinating.
[4615.00 --> 4616.66] So, I love that one specifically.
[4617.62 --> 4618.54] And what else did he mention?
[4618.60 --> 4619.38] Oh, he mentioned Gergay.
[4620.04 --> 4620.76] Gergay Oroz.
[4620.92 --> 4621.74] Gergay Oroz.
[4622.06 --> 4622.22] Yeah.
[4622.50 --> 4624.54] He is an annual guest each fall.
[4624.64 --> 4628.06] We just did our state of the tech market with him a couple weeks back.
[4628.78 --> 4630.64] And, yeah, good stuff all around.
[4630.78 --> 4634.18] That's why we bring him back every year to tell us what's been going on lately.
[4634.18 --> 4639.52] We almost didn't call it the state of something because of state of the log.
[4640.38 --> 4640.66] Yeah.
[4641.40 --> 4643.32] Well, you're going to do state of home lab.
[4643.40 --> 4646.04] So, maybe we're getting kind of repetitive here.
[4647.24 --> 4649.92] And also the state of quantum computing.
[4650.62 --> 4650.96] True.
[4651.38 --> 4657.38] And we had a JS Party episode about state of the art, state machines, art of the state machines.
[4657.94 --> 4658.46] I don't know.
[4658.70 --> 4661.34] A lot of state, you know, we're developers.
[4661.54 --> 4662.98] We're always dealing with state, you know.
[4662.98 --> 4663.94] It's that time of year.
[4664.18 --> 4664.38] Yeah.
[4664.62 --> 4667.66] Well, we also went off topic to, well, off title, I should say.
[4667.66 --> 4668.46] Not off topic.
[4668.58 --> 4674.56] Off title that time around because we had two back-to-back that were this insane tech hiring market
[4674.56 --> 4677.72] and then this not insane tech hiring market.
[4678.40 --> 4680.84] And then I was kind of bummed we didn't keep that.
[4681.08 --> 4681.34] But, you know.
[4681.54 --> 4682.96] Well, I just felt like it couldn't scale.
[4683.10 --> 4684.28] Like, if we're going to do them every year.
[4684.36 --> 4684.56] Yeah.
[4684.78 --> 4686.40] Now we have a title that can scale.
[4686.66 --> 4687.84] Like, state of the log scales.
[4688.04 --> 4689.34] You just change the year.
[4689.44 --> 4689.58] Yeah.
[4689.66 --> 4690.36] Increment the number.
[4690.40 --> 4692.94] Now we just increment the number next year and we just have them back on.
[4692.94 --> 4699.34] Whereas, if we keep doing, like, some sort of operator in front of the word insane, we're going to use the question mark this year.
[4699.40 --> 4700.10] That would have been cool.
[4700.40 --> 4701.86] Because he actually said it on the show.
[4701.94 --> 4703.10] This would be the question mark one.
[4703.48 --> 4704.86] But then what are we going to do after that?
[4704.96 --> 4705.70] You know, division?
[4706.06 --> 4707.16] You know, forward slash?
[4707.16 --> 4709.04] I mean, we'd never do a backslash operator.
[4709.14 --> 4710.46] We almost had to reschedule that show, too.
[4710.48 --> 4711.26] It almost didn't happen.
[4711.74 --> 4712.22] We almost.
[4712.38 --> 4712.76] Oh, true.
[4713.14 --> 4717.30] Titled it differently and it almost didn't happen because of just timing and things that happen.
[4718.06 --> 4718.76] Scheduling whenever.
[4719.52 --> 4725.00] When you ship five shows a week-ish, it's always a scheduling hassle.
[4725.28 --> 4727.74] Obviously three here, but it's challenging.
[4728.12 --> 4728.50] It's challenging.
[4728.90 --> 4729.40] Mm-hmm.
[4729.66 --> 4730.04] Mm-hmm.
[4730.82 --> 4731.44] All right.
[4731.60 --> 4732.92] Alex, here's your beat.
[4735.24 --> 4735.76] Introduction.
[4740.08 --> 4741.08] New section.
[4744.92 --> 4746.24] It's very punchy.
[4751.20 --> 4751.64] Freestyle.
[4755.56 --> 4756.86] I really like it.
[4758.02 --> 4759.28] I really like it.
[4759.28 --> 4764.20] That opening was the opening, I believe, to an outro track.
[4764.72 --> 4765.02] Oh, really?
[4765.66 --> 4765.98] Yeah.
[4766.40 --> 4767.22] I have to hear it again.
[4767.30 --> 4767.58] Hold on.
[4769.42 --> 4770.58] Oh, I know which one it is.
[4770.66 --> 4772.00] It's the Figaro one.
[4772.86 --> 4773.46] That's right.
[4773.62 --> 4773.72] Yeah.
[4774.16 --> 4774.44] Sofiago.
[4774.92 --> 4775.06] Yeah.
[4775.78 --> 4776.56] Sofiago, yes.
[4783.64 --> 4784.32] Sofiago, yeah.
[4784.52 --> 4788.12] Our old outro to the changel, which we haven't used in a while, which we should bring back just
[4788.12 --> 4788.46] for fun.
[4788.46 --> 4790.10] We should remix that thing just for fun.
[4790.48 --> 4790.80] Yeah.
[4791.34 --> 4792.90] Yeah, let's bring that to the next table.
[4793.40 --> 4793.62] Yeah.
[4793.86 --> 4794.40] For sure.
[4794.70 --> 4799.64] Well, because when I hear that, when I heard his beats, I suppose, whatever that was, that