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[5347.50 --> 5351.60] And I forget the name of the guest, but the episode was Dear Red Hat.
[5351.94 --> 5354.12] And also The Death of Physical Media.
[5354.60 --> 5359.42] I really, really love all the episodes, really, to be perfectly honest, that you guys put out.
[5359.42 --> 5366.60] But it's incredible value to have the episodes that I've mentioned, which are not really talking
[5366.60 --> 5368.00] about the technical side of things.
[5368.00 --> 5372.90] It's more the impact that they have on the world as we know it.
[5373.16 --> 5378.96] Sort of looking at the past, present and future and how that all intertwines with how we're
[5378.96 --> 5381.98] currently moving with what we do technically.
[5381.98 --> 5386.52] So, yeah, incredible value, incredible guests presented excellently.
[5387.06 --> 5389.22] So very much looking forward to 2024.
[5389.86 --> 5390.36] Thanks again.
[5390.36 --> 5391.30] Thank you.
[5391.66 --> 5392.78] That's what we like to say, Jared.
[5392.90 --> 5396.34] We care about the past, the present and the future hacker generation.
[5396.48 --> 5397.36] That includes us, too, right?
[5397.40 --> 5401.32] Like the impact, I think, is I like how he framed it.
[5401.32 --> 5405.04] I haven't been thinking of it that way necessarily, but that's obviously the way it plays out is
[5405.04 --> 5409.22] what is the impact of this change, this way of thinking, this way of doing business,
[5409.32 --> 5412.36] this allowance of X, Y or Z to operate this way.
[5412.36 --> 5415.06] We, the people, have the power to push back through our choices.
[5415.94 --> 5421.62] And we, the people of purveyor of podcasts have the power to push back via voice and to
[5421.62 --> 5425.50] potentially amass an army to rethink how they think about the world.
[5425.60 --> 5429.90] I think that's what I love most about the medium of podcasting and just even how we help brands
[5429.90 --> 5433.82] and sponsors is like we get to plant some ideas, change some ideas.
[5434.50 --> 5434.84] You know what I mean?
[5434.94 --> 5437.28] That to me is the fun part about what we do.
[5438.12 --> 5438.20] Totally.
[5438.20 --> 5442.36] I mean, I love to get a new idea from somebody or someplace.
[5442.98 --> 5447.02] It's just a way of looking at the world that I never had previously looked at it that way.
[5447.50 --> 5452.00] Or to find a new tool that saves me five minutes a day or anything like that where you're just
[5452.00 --> 5454.40] like, okay, this was worth it, you know?
[5454.82 --> 5459.84] And it's shrouded in an hour and a half conversation that hopefully is a fun ride regardless.
[5460.20 --> 5465.92] You know, like entertain first, but then also educate through exposure to the way other people
[5465.92 --> 5469.70] think, the things other people spend their time working on.
[5469.78 --> 5474.52] I mean, a lot of the things that we talk about in terms of the tech is like, we're amazed that
[5474.52 --> 5476.66] you've decided to dedicate your life to working on this.
[5476.76 --> 5482.46] Like we think that you should be able to tell your story to people because your desire to,
[5482.62 --> 5486.30] for instance, build a brand new programming language that's going to last a hundred years
[5486.30 --> 5488.60] is worth other people knowing about.
[5488.72 --> 5489.82] Like where does that come from?
[5489.82 --> 5493.16] And so I love, I love hearing that kind of stuff from other people.
[5493.26 --> 5499.58] And so I love to be able to provide that for other people through our interviews and through
[5499.58 --> 5500.28] our conversations.
[5500.28 --> 5502.04] So it's fun.
[5502.14 --> 5502.84] It's good.
[5503.12 --> 5503.96] Good vibes.
[5504.48 --> 5505.04] Thanks Tillman.
[5505.20 --> 5507.14] Of course he's called him before.
[5507.54 --> 5509.10] We always appreciate hearing from you.
[5509.18 --> 5513.72] Very insightful, very thoughtful, and we appreciate you being a member of the community.
[5514.28 --> 5516.02] Here is your BMC remix.
[5516.02 --> 5519.90] Past, present, future.
[5519.90 --> 5538.78] Past, present, future.
[5546.02 --> 5549.66] So very much looking forward to 2024.
[5551.06 --> 5551.44] Mm-hmm.
[5552.08 --> 5554.00] That was a very BMC ending to that one.
[5554.48 --> 5555.46] Very much, yeah.
[5555.74 --> 5558.94] Reminds me of the George Orwell's famous quote.
[5559.66 --> 5562.26] Says, who controls the past controls the future.
[5562.80 --> 5564.80] Who controls the present controls the past.
[5565.54 --> 5566.78] That's from 1984.
[5567.02 --> 5568.36] Kind of a glum movie, really.
[5568.80 --> 5570.84] But not really a glum movie.
[5570.92 --> 5574.74] I mean, it's not like a, it's not a rom-com, okay?
[5574.80 --> 5575.44] It's not a comedy.
[5576.48 --> 5577.26] Let's just say.
[5577.88 --> 5578.12] Yeah.
[5578.28 --> 5580.42] That's actually a quote, too, from Alta.
[5580.64 --> 5583.72] There's a band, I would say, a group called Alta.
[5584.88 --> 5587.04] A little lower than the angels is what it stands for.
[5587.16 --> 5587.48] Alta.
[5588.12 --> 5593.58] And those lyrics, or those words, who controls the past controls the future, who controls
[5593.58 --> 5595.80] the present, who controls the past, is on there.
[5595.80 --> 5610.12] Kind of reminds me of that sentiment.
[5610.62 --> 5610.76] You know?
[5611.04 --> 5611.30] Yeah.
[5611.30 --> 5613.56] That is a deep thought.
[5614.68 --> 5614.96] Mm-hmm.
[5615.80 --> 5616.16] All right.
[5616.26 --> 5619.28] Thus concludes our listener voicemails.
[5619.34 --> 5619.88] I told you.
[5620.16 --> 5621.70] There'd be a lot of good stuff in there.
[5622.38 --> 5622.78] Okay.
[5622.86 --> 5623.22] Hold up.
[5623.30 --> 5623.68] Hold up.
[5623.82 --> 5624.26] Hold up.
[5624.26 --> 5630.62] Remember earlier, I said we had a 12th voicemail come in after Adam and I had recorded together?
[5631.68 --> 5637.00] Well, I'm not going to tell you who it was that shipped their feature to production on
[5637.00 --> 5642.16] a Friday after the rest of us had taken off for the weekend, but I will play his voicemail for us.
[5642.16 --> 5645.92] I'd absolutely say that this year, the changelog has been the best so far.
[5646.16 --> 5652.34] We've got so many more, so many more different game shows, which have been so much fun.
[5652.70 --> 5655.60] There's been a lot of really, really great interviews.
[5655.76 --> 5657.62] I don't have time to go through all of them.
[5657.92 --> 5661.28] There's been some really good episodes across all the different podcasts.
[5661.28 --> 5668.90] According to Podcast Addict, my podcast platform, I've listened to changelog for five days and
[5668.90 --> 5676.76] 16 hours, which given I also listened to my podcast at like 1.8 times is like a lot of time.
[5677.04 --> 5681.84] Changelog helps me while I'm cooking, while I walk the dog, even while I'm doing bits of
[5681.84 --> 5682.28] housework.
[5682.28 --> 5690.02] So it is like a key part of my life and I will often prioritize it over other podcasts because
[5690.02 --> 5695.20] just the sheer quality, quantity of great things that you're always putting out, which