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[4041.94 --> 4044.54] You can kind of get an overview of the things that we talked about today.
[4044.66 --> 4048.62] And then also in our supporting tools page on there, you can see, oh, cool.
[4048.74 --> 4051.88] Like here's where I can learn more about using it in VS Code or Codespaces.
[4051.88 --> 4052.94] Or here's how I could use it.
[4052.98 --> 4054.92] Maybe some of these other tools that I'm already using.
[4055.34 --> 4055.96] Yeah, I messed up there.
[4056.04 --> 4057.34] I said dev containers.dev.
[4057.46 --> 4058.26] Sorry about that.
[4058.84 --> 4062.10] Containers.dev for posterity and clarification.
[4062.30 --> 4064.74] Say containers.dev.
[4065.44 --> 4065.86] Just kidding.
[4066.28 --> 4067.22] I had to say it really loud.
[4068.44 --> 4070.04] Say it five times real fast.
[4071.46 --> 4072.66] Maintainer, maintainer, maintainer.
[4073.32 --> 4074.02] Bridget, it's been awesome.
[4074.18 --> 4076.72] Thank you so much for joining us and taking us into this new world.
[4076.80 --> 4080.96] We're going to explore it a bit ourselves and encourage those who we see to do so as well.
[4080.96 --> 4082.70] Thank you for coming on the show.
[4082.82 --> 4083.28] Appreciate you.
[4083.50 --> 4084.20] Yeah, totally.
[4084.52 --> 4085.34] Sounds great.
[4085.62 --> 4086.36] Thank you so much.
[4089.42 --> 4089.86] Okay.
[4090.02 --> 4093.04] Coming to a dev container near you, your code base.
[4093.20 --> 4094.24] It's just too easy.
[4094.58 --> 4096.40] You got to laugh at moments like that in shows.
[4096.62 --> 4098.06] Thank you for laughing with me.
[4098.52 --> 4099.30] It's just too easy.
[4099.86 --> 4100.34] Hey, don't forget.
[4100.44 --> 4104.50] There is a bonus on this show for a plus plus subscribers.
[4104.82 --> 4105.58] We have a membership.
[4105.58 --> 4107.76] It is called changelog plus plus.
[4107.92 --> 4109.14] We drop the ads.
[4109.52 --> 4112.56] We bring you a little closer to the metal and then we give you bonus content.
[4113.08 --> 4113.64] Check it out.
[4113.76 --> 4116.86] Learn more at changelog.com slash plus plus.
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[4127.56 --> 4129.26] Those beats, they're banging.
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[4133.58 --> 4135.20] Tell a friend if you love this show.
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• Dev Containers are a tool to help developers get up and running with applications or projects without installing anything locally
• Dev Containers use a devcontainer.json file to configure the development environment and can be linked to a Dockerfile for additional setup
• Dev Containers can standardize the development environment, making it consistent across development, testing, and production
• Dev Containers can simplify the process of setting up a development environment, especially for cloud-based environments like GitHub Codespaces
• Dev and prod containers often have different needs, with dev containers requiring more tools and resources to support development workflows
• Dev Containers can help reduce the complexity of setting up and managing development environments, making it easier for developers to contribute to open source projects.
• Resistance to cloud-based development environments
• Benefits of dev containers, including cloud-based coding and local development
• Brigit's team's approach to developing dev containers, starting with user experience and feedback
• Comparison between dev containers and traditional cloud-based environments
• Historical context of dev containers, from initial contribution to current state
• Visual Studio and Visual Studio Code's relationship and differences
• Whether VS Code will become a full-fledged IDE
• VS Code's vision and goals, including being a tool for editing code anywhere
• Dev Containers, its origins, and its evolution into a spec for other tools to adopt
• The process of generalizing the Dev Containers spec to be tool-agnostic
• Dev Containers and Codespaces discussed as tools for creating and managing development environments
• Benefits of Dev Containers, including ease of collaboration and contribution to open source projects
• Brigit Murtaugh explains the Dev Container spec and how it relates to devcontainer.json files
• Codespaces uses the Dev Container CLI to implement the spec and build development environments
• The Dev Container CLI is a reference implementation of the spec, and can be used by other tools to support the spec
• Users can create their own tools that support Dev Containers using the CLI
• VS Code's experience is enhanced when a devcontainer.json file is present, providing additional features and functionality
• The devcontainer.json file is used to guide users through the process of creating a development environment
• The file can be kept simple, and a little configuration goes a long way in setting up a development environment.
• Discussing the installation of Dev Containers, including options for local installation and integration with Docker files.
• Introducing Dev Container Features, a concept that allows for a list of features to be defined in devcontainer.json for easy installation and management.
• Considering the distinction between project-specific and personal preferences in Dev Container configuration.
• Discussing the possibility of having a .local file for local, personalized configurations.
• Exploring the adoption of Dev Containers beyond VS Code, including open-source implementations for Vim and Emacs, and cloud IDE providers such as Codespaces and StackBlitz.
• Debating the path to widespread adoption and the importance of clear messaging to emphasize that Dev Containers are not exclusive to VS Code.
• Establishing trust and awareness with users and developers about the openness and adoption of Dev Containers
• Getting feedback from users and communities to identify gaps and improve the spec
• Creating a section on the containers.dev site for supporting tools and showcasing open-source projects using Dev Containers
• Addressing concerns about adoption and trust, such as showing continuous action and responsiveness to feedback
• Demystifying Dev Containers and making it easy to get started with templates and building blocks
• Templates as starter spots for specific project types, allowing users to customize and modify them as needed
• Docker Compose YAML file can be used to create a dev container for development
• Dev containers can be used as a remote development environment, allowing developers to work within the container and avoid copying code between local and remote environments
• Volumes and bind mounts can be used to mount source code into the container, and are the recommended way to work with containers
• Dev containers can be ephemeral, meaning they can be spun down and destroyed without losing code or configuration
• Security credentials, such as GitHub login information, can be securely injected into the container by the Codespaces service or extension
• Dev containers can be used as a model for remote development, and can be referenced by other projects or teams to set up similar environments.
• Discussion of 2FA and GitHub security
• Explaining how Dev Containers work with local credentials and mounted code
• Examining the official Dev Containers Templates repo and image variants
• Understanding the Microsoft-hosted image repository and its role in Dev Containers
• Discussing the benefits of sensible defaults and the provision of a service for image management
• Exploring the potential use cases for Dev Containers in education and real-world scenarios
• Touching on the origins of Dev Containers and the idea of "permission to mess up" in the GitHub community
• TrueNAS and Proxmox ease of use for spinning up new images
• Dev Container templates and images, including new contribution models