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[4933.90 --> 4938.06] Why don't you sign up for something for say three years and we stagger it so that not all |
[4938.06 --> 4941.72] of the committers come on at the three year mark and then now there's no, right. |
[4941.72 --> 4942.06] Right. |
[4942.12 --> 4945.72] But like stagger it so that, you know, there's still a group of people to help bring on the |
[4945.72 --> 4946.20] new folks. |
[4946.42 --> 4950.18] But then it's a lot easier to make a commitment or for your business to make a commitment. |
[4950.18 --> 4954.78] If you're employed by somebody to say, okay, we can pay you for say 20% of your time |
[4954.78 --> 4955.38] for three years. |
[4955.38 --> 4959.48] That's an investment we can make versus 20% of your time indefinitely is a lot harder |
[4959.48 --> 4959.98] to ask. |
[4960.50 --> 4965.16] Um, and then we're talking also about term limits, which means once you've done, let's |
[4965.16 --> 4969.08] say two, three year rotations, then you have to take a year off. |
[4969.08 --> 4972.60] And you know, if you want to come back great, but otherwise like we're going to make you |
[4972.60 --> 4977.54] go out there, build some stuff, you know, and get, get familiar with what the field is |
[4977.54 --> 4977.76] doing. |
[4977.86 --> 4978.24] That kind of thing. |
[4978.24 --> 4980.34] See if this is still what makes you passionate in the summer. |
[4980.36 --> 4981.42] It's probably forced vacation. |
[4981.92 --> 4982.18] Yeah. |
[4982.38 --> 4983.76] In a way it is. |
[4983.76 --> 4985.76] Yeah. |
[4985.76 --> 4986.76] Yeah. |
[4986.76 --> 4987.76] Yeah. |
[4987.76 --> 4988.76] Yeah. |
[4988.76 --> 4992.08] And they just keep working through it and some companies allow that, but this is kind |
[4992.08 --> 4993.36] of like, it's kind of like that. |
[4993.44 --> 4994.04] It's forced vacation. |
[4994.18 --> 4994.32] It is. |
[4994.36 --> 4996.48] And it's, it's coming from a place of love. |
[4996.54 --> 4996.88] You know what I mean? |
[4996.88 --> 4999.84] It's like, it's coming from a place of, you're probably not going to do this unless you're |
[4999.84 --> 5003.34] forced to, but forcing you to really gives you that, huh? |
[5003.46 --> 5003.70] Okay. |
[5003.70 --> 5005.76] Like I don't need that responsibility anymore. |
[5005.76 --> 5009.54] Or, and then if I want to go back willingly, I'm able to, but we're not stuck with people |
[5009.54 --> 5012.74] who maybe should have moved on a while ago. |
[5012.84 --> 5013.06] Yeah. |
[5013.54 --> 5017.18] And just feel like they can't because they're like, everyone's depending on me, you know, |
[5017.18 --> 5017.72] that kind of thing. |
[5017.92 --> 5017.94] So. |
[5018.02 --> 5021.28] Well, they feel like that, but it's not, it's kind of true, but it's kind of not true. |
[5021.32 --> 5023.34] They're like, that person should really take a break. |
[5023.70 --> 5023.94] Yeah. |
[5023.94 --> 5024.56] But they will not. |
[5024.70 --> 5024.90] So. |
[5025.72 --> 5025.92] Yeah. |
[5025.92 --> 5026.68] I mean, that was the thing. |
[5026.68 --> 5030.28] Like I stepped away and I was super active, but it's like Drupal's still fine. |
[5030.44 --> 5030.96] You know what I mean? |
[5031.08 --> 5033.28] Like, it's like Drupal's doing fine. |
[5033.90 --> 5035.32] Everybody's still getting their stuff done. |
[5035.60 --> 5039.84] And you know, it's, it, it proves that out that it's like, even if someone is like neck |
[5039.84 --> 5042.64] deep in everything, you know, it's fine. |
[5042.74 --> 5043.62] Like step away. |
[5043.62 --> 5045.94] If you need to step away, the project will figure it out. |
[5046.16 --> 5047.66] I had this epiphany a while back. |
[5047.68 --> 5051.02] Cause I listened to and read Seth Godin's book, Lynchpin. |
[5051.26 --> 5051.56] Okay. |
[5051.66 --> 5053.30] And if you read, have you read that book or know of it? |
[5053.74 --> 5055.38] Well, Lynchpin essentially is like your crucial. |
[5055.38 --> 5058.98] The Lynchpin in a wagon wheel was what kept the wheel on the thing. |
[5059.18 --> 5063.96] So if you're the Lynchpin, you've got to be there to do the job so that the wagon wheel |
[5063.96 --> 5065.62] stays on the wagon and the wagon keep moving. |
[5066.04 --> 5070.36] And I learned a long time ago, I'd rather be a cog because at some point somebody else |
[5070.36 --> 5073.32] is going to like be better or be more hungry than I am. |
[5073.46 --> 5075.94] And I'm not really the Lynchpin I thought I was. |
[5076.32 --> 5079.66] So might as well just be a very purposeful cog. |
[5079.92 --> 5080.80] I do my job well. |
[5080.84 --> 5083.12] I serve my team well, and I don't have to be a Lynchpin. |
[5083.14 --> 5084.02] I can be very important. |
[5084.02 --> 5087.84] I can have an important role and play a crucial role, but I'm not a Lynchpin. |
[5088.04 --> 5092.56] I'm more of a cog in a better machine as opposed to get the things done. |
[5092.74 --> 5094.26] Let me give you a slightly different analogy. |
[5094.32 --> 5094.44] Sure. |
[5094.58 --> 5098.80] Because yes and, think of yourself as like, you're like the drummer in the band, right? |
[5098.96 --> 5099.16] Right. |
[5099.22 --> 5102.94] The drummer in the band kind of sits back, just kind of does his thing or her thing, |
[5103.18 --> 5105.88] and makes sure that the beat's going on and this kind of thing. |
[5106.04 --> 5110.86] And then you let someone else be the lead singer and the guitarist, you know, like doing that kind of stuff. |
[5110.86 --> 5113.40] You know, because you still have a really important role to play. |
[5113.50 --> 5116.40] And I don't think calling yourself a cog is like doing service to that, you know? |
[5116.44 --> 5116.98] Because it's like... |
[5116.98 --> 5118.78] Every once in a while, you have a drum solo. |
[5119.10 --> 5119.76] Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
[5119.76 --> 5119.78] Every once in a while. |
[5119.78 --> 5121.06] But not the whole time, right? |
[5121.22 --> 5121.68] Like let other people shine. |
[5121.68 --> 5123.78] No, if it's the whole time, people start walking. |
[5124.00 --> 5125.80] Tiny symbol crash just noise, you know? |
[5125.86 --> 5127.36] You can't have a whole thing be a drum solo. |
[5127.36 --> 5131.52] The reason I think I came up with cog was there was an analogy between linchpin and cog. |
[5131.72 --> 5131.98] Oh, all right. |
[5131.98 --> 5135.50] Because the cog is like the thing that is just part of the bigger clock, you know? |
[5135.52 --> 5138.70] But the clock wouldn't work if one or two of the cogs broke, right? |
[5139.10 --> 5140.50] It wouldn't take time the same way. |
[5140.76 --> 5143.06] Not to nitpick your analogy, but while we're doing this. |
[5143.12 --> 5143.82] Sure, please. |
[5144.20 --> 5145.64] This is Jared's MO, please. |
[5145.64 --> 5146.68] It's a different way. |
[5146.80 --> 5147.70] Well, Jared, let's go. |
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