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[565.82 --> 570.96] I was having trouble coming to words because, you know, ending is always challenging.
[570.96 --> 572.72] I guess pausing is a little easier.
[573.84 --> 578.98] But, you know, it's bittersweet for me because there's a lot of like about it, obviously.
[579.08 --> 584.28] And there's a lot that came from our deeper relationship and everything.
[584.46 --> 589.62] But I'm also about, you know, quitting when it makes sense.
[590.00 --> 596.58] You know, the dip from Seth Godin was, you know, by far one of my favorite books, you know, in terms of like self-development.
[596.58 --> 600.08] And that is like that book isn't really about quitting necessarily.
[600.36 --> 601.02] I guess it might be.
[601.56 --> 606.06] It's about knowing the right time to quit, I suppose, you know, or pause even something.
[606.62 --> 613.56] And that's a challenge because too often we'll push ourselves beyond our limits and things break.
[614.14 --> 616.70] Sometimes those things that break are really important to us.
[616.86 --> 619.14] And that's called regret, you know.
[619.34 --> 621.78] And so none of us want to live with regret.
[621.94 --> 623.00] I don't want you to live with regret.
[623.00 --> 629.90] I want to do great things together, but not at the expense of the things that are important to you and to us.
[630.40 --> 634.86] And I think from a listenership, you know, I would love the listeners to come to this and say that's really awesome.
[635.10 --> 637.40] It's like know when to pause.
[637.98 --> 645.06] I mean, for a while there, I had to pause Founders Talk and other things that were way back in the day to make sure that we can focus on the Change Law Podcast.
[645.60 --> 650.60] A couple years back, Mariel and I paused Brain Science because like it was just too fast of a clip for us.
[650.60 --> 651.48] We were both really busy.
[651.48 --> 656.98] We're still in the midst of bringing that show back, but we have great ambition and great plans.
[657.12 --> 666.82] But, you know, you have to look at what you're capable of and what you want to achieve and kind of pair the two up, you know, and say, is this sustainable?
[667.50 --> 674.20] And if it's not, you know, be wise and put your no down because too often do we say yes when we should say no.
[674.20 --> 676.20] 100%.
[676.20 --> 687.36] On the note of more video stuff, though, and this, you know, experimentation and this Kaizen and some of it sounds like what we really wanted from this was the experimentation and the freedom.
[687.36 --> 695.56] And then, you know, the cadence of the actual podcast, which I agree, a weekly podcast is incredibly hard to do.
[695.86 --> 709.42] If you're listening to this right now, anybody who's shipping a show weekly for years, they're not quite superheroes, but they're darn close because it takes a lot to show up every single week and do something that is worthwhile.
[709.42 --> 715.86] And if you have a growing audience like we've had, you know, and this show has been part of that and that's a big, big challenge.
[716.28 --> 724.04] However, even like on today's topic, like DHH and cloud that conversations out there, like this backlash against the cloud.
[724.04 --> 729.02] Like I would have loved if that show was great, by the way, I love that episode.
[729.50 --> 736.80] But like in terms of experimentation and videos on YouTube, I would love to see like because you don't have to have like a rhythm.
[736.92 --> 742.98] You can just do it when you want a deep dive or a peek behind the veil of their non cloud cloud.
[743.10 --> 744.54] You know, their their own info.
[744.54 --> 754.00] Like what does that mean to stand up your own infrastructure and like just have a 20 minute DHH screen share with you and you guys just like hammered out for like 20 minutes.
[754.08 --> 761.68] That'd be cool for me every couple of months, you know, like nothing that's weekly, just something that's like, show me behind the screen.
[761.78 --> 764.48] You know, show me, give me a peek at your infra.
[765.14 --> 766.06] You know, what were your choices?
[766.20 --> 767.06] Why'd you make them?
[767.36 --> 768.12] How's it work?
[768.20 --> 768.58] Et cetera.
[768.64 --> 769.60] That'd be cool to me.
[770.04 --> 774.18] And with no with no necessary cadence, just like whenever it makes sense.
[774.18 --> 777.80] And that kind of fits into your desire to explore because you're an explorer, Gerard.
[777.96 --> 780.52] You know, you like to push the boundaries of you on the edge.
[780.60 --> 783.86] But I think this show may have limited you from doing that potentially.
[784.30 --> 785.96] Adam, you just said behind the screen.
[786.04 --> 786.96] Was that a slip of the tongue?
[787.02 --> 789.58] Are you workshopping a new title scheme?
[789.98 --> 791.36] You know, always, Jared, always.
[791.42 --> 792.46] I like where this is going.
[794.38 --> 795.14] Behind the keyboard.
[795.26 --> 795.80] Is that on purpose?
[796.36 --> 796.64] Yeah.
[797.40 --> 798.64] Not away from the keyboard.
[798.76 --> 800.68] Behind the keyboard, behind the screen, behind the camera.
[800.84 --> 801.20] There you go.
[801.20 --> 805.06] So that's the big news.
[805.12 --> 808.48] That's probably a surprise to most, if not all.
[809.18 --> 810.68] In terms of ship it subscribers.
[810.84 --> 813.00] So a lot of people are like, they listen to ship it every week.
[813.58 --> 816.54] And they just heard this and like, well, that sucks for me.
[817.28 --> 818.06] Touch points.
[818.14 --> 819.88] Like we're talking about potential experimentation.
[820.58 --> 823.26] How can they stay plugged in with you?
[823.46 --> 824.44] What you're doing?
[824.50 --> 826.78] And maybe with the future of the show.
[826.78 --> 831.36] Obviously, don't unsubscribe from your feed reader unless you're a super clean freak.
[831.44 --> 833.54] Because there might be new things getting published into the feed.
[833.64 --> 835.02] Just go ahead and let it go inactive.
[835.92 --> 838.32] And if we ever publish here again, you'll just automatically get them.
[838.38 --> 839.62] So I'll say that much myself.
[840.30 --> 841.54] Subscribe to the changelog.
[841.74 --> 842.88] Probably would be a good idea.
[843.06 --> 846.94] But I'll just throw that in there as a shameless self-promotion.
[847.06 --> 850.66] But for you, Gerhard, like how can people who want to stay connected with you personally,
[851.16 --> 853.08] beyond ship it, where should they go?
[853.08 --> 853.48] Yeah.
[853.48 --> 853.64] Yeah.
[854.20 --> 855.30] So I'm still on Twitter.
[856.02 --> 856.68] It's still a thing.
[857.00 --> 857.96] I'm on changelog social.
[858.44 --> 861.68] Even though I haven't tweeted anything yet, if that's a thing.
[861.78 --> 861.92] Tooted.
[862.16 --> 862.96] I haven't tooted.
[863.14 --> 863.58] There you go.
[863.64 --> 863.82] Sorry.
[863.98 --> 864.14] See?
[864.54 --> 864.68] See?
[864.86 --> 866.56] I'm not up to date on all these things.
[866.92 --> 868.78] So I think that's an area worth improving.
[869.12 --> 870.64] No one wants to be up to date with that word.
[870.72 --> 870.88] Yeah.
[871.36 --> 874.24] I'm still very much on the changelog Slack, on the changelog GitHub.
[874.60 --> 876.66] That's where I intend to spend more time.
[877.00 --> 881.50] Since this whole Kaizen thing behind the scenes for changelog is not going to stop.
[881.50 --> 883.16] We'll still be improving things.
[883.24 --> 884.12] There's pull requests.
[884.58 --> 885.44] There's issues.
[885.64 --> 887.08] There's all sorts of things happening there.
[887.44 --> 888.34] Maybe even discussions.