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[4488.80 --> 4490.06] You did not get to do a good job.
[4490.28 --> 4493.20] All I said was, you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
[4493.20 --> 4495.88] Well, that's what happened in the one that shipped.
[4496.14 --> 4496.40] Ah.
[4496.54 --> 4497.94] Behind the scenes, it was worse.
[4498.24 --> 4498.98] I'm just messing with Jared.
[4499.04 --> 4500.18] I'm just being silly.
[4500.34 --> 4501.32] I don't even believe you.
[4501.44 --> 4507.20] With all this time that I'm going to have from not shipping a Ship It episode every week,
[4507.52 --> 4508.74] do you know what I'm going to do instead?
[4509.28 --> 4510.98] I'm going to go Dan Tan.
[4511.44 --> 4511.76] Ah.
[4512.92 --> 4513.86] That's what's happening.
[4514.82 --> 4515.64] Dan Tan.
[4516.28 --> 4517.16] Comes again.
[4517.16 --> 4517.24] Dan Tan.
[4517.44 --> 4519.28] Every week, I'll go Dan Tan.
[4520.44 --> 4521.08] Dan Tan.
[4522.14 --> 4523.24] So that's what's up.
[4523.82 --> 4524.54] Oh my gosh.
[4524.56 --> 4524.88] Love it.
[4525.26 --> 4527.02] I got my kids saying Dan Tan now.
[4527.24 --> 4527.76] There you go.
[4527.84 --> 4529.04] Never telling that story again.
[4529.20 --> 4530.00] Everyone is on it.
[4530.38 --> 4531.22] Everyone's saying it.
[4532.28 --> 4533.32] So that's my plan.
[4533.58 --> 4533.90] All right.
[4534.02 --> 4534.96] Sounds good, Gerhard.
[4535.68 --> 4536.08] All right.
[4536.38 --> 4536.92] Thank you.
[4537.26 --> 4537.82] It has been good.
[4537.88 --> 4538.22] Thank you.
[4538.36 --> 4539.08] Always a pleasure.
[4539.62 --> 4540.44] There will be a next one.
[4541.00 --> 4541.98] Two and a half months away.
[4542.30 --> 4542.74] Right?
[4543.08 --> 4543.52] Roughly.
[4543.94 --> 4546.34] So I don't know exactly when, but two and a half months away.
[4546.34 --> 4548.42] It will be warm and nice where you are.
[4548.58 --> 4548.98] I'm sure.
[4549.50 --> 4549.80] Yeah.
[4549.94 --> 4550.96] I'm looking forward to that.
[4551.52 --> 4551.76] Kaizen.
[4552.14 --> 4552.50] Same.
[4552.70 --> 4552.98] Kaizen.
[4553.02 --> 4553.32] Kaizen.
[4556.90 --> 4559.68] Thank you for tuning into another episode of Shibit.
[4559.68 --> 4564.92] Check out our other podcasts for developers at changelog.com slash master.
[4565.34 --> 4569.82] You can connect with like-minded developers by changelog.com slash community.
[4570.40 --> 4572.70] Thank you all for being a great audience.
[4573.12 --> 4575.78] I really enjoyed making all this content for you.
[4576.22 --> 4579.86] Thank you to all the guests that have joined me on Shibit.show.
[4580.22 --> 4582.00] I had such a great time with you all.
[4582.52 --> 4583.28] Until next time.
[4583.28 --> 4591.16] Game on.
[4591.16 --> 4593.46] Game on.
• Delayed conversation between Gerhard Lazu and Tim McNamara finally takes place
• Tim McNamara discusses his recent injury from a mountain bike accident and its aftermath
• Conversation turns to Tim's work at AWS as a senior software development engineer supporting the Rust programming language
• Tim explains the unique challenges of working in a different timezone and leading an education project for adopting Rust at Amazon
• The benefits of using Rust in software development, including reduced memory usage and improved stability
• The concept of "organizational inertia" where companies may resist adopting new technologies like Rust due to fear of change
• The potential for Rust to reduce energy use by 50% through more efficient coding practices
• The comparison of CPU vs. memory usage in cloud services, with memory being a more limiting factor
• Case studies, including AWS and Discord, which have seen significant improvements in performance and latency using Rust
• Latency reduction through smaller CPU and memory usage
• Importance of low latency in user experience and cost savings
• Comparison of Rust vs Python vs Java cold start latencies
• Benefits of using Rust for AWS Lambda functions, including faster execution and lower memory usage
• Cost savings from reduced operational burden on service teams and lower overall system costs
• Potential savings of hundreds of millions of dollars by adopting Rust internally
• Benefits of using Rust for programming, including optimized performance and cost savings
• Features of the Rust language, such as pattern matching, enums, and result types
• Error handling in Rust, which requires explicit error checking and provides a more robust way to handle errors than languages like Go
• The history of Rust's development, including its creation by Mozilla to address the need for faster web browsers
• Examples of successful uses of Rust at AWS, including the reimplemented shard store for S3, which has been formally verified as resistant to most classes of errors
• Amazon S3 and other AWS services are using Rust to improve performance and efficiency
• Using Rust can reduce energy usage and save money for companies like Amazon, with a goal of saving $100 million per year
• Rust is not a complete solution, but it's a good partial answer to the problem of software bloat
• The cost savings from using Rust are a byproduct of developing software that meets expectations for reliability and performance
• Rust has its limitations, including being more restrictive and less flexible than other languages like Python, making it less well-suited for certain tasks.
• Tim McNamara wrote his book "Rust in Action" after noticing a trend towards shallow technical literature
• He aimed to write a comprehensive book on learning Rust from scratch without relying on existing resources
• The book features large examples that teach the reader how to implement real-world applications and systems, such as a database, CPU emulator, NTP client, and operating system kernel
• Tim encountered challenges in writing the book due to its unique approach and had to trim down examples to focus on one feature at a time
• The first edition received positive feedback from 90% of readers but criticism from others who preferred more traditional approaches
• A second edition is being written with the intention of refining explanations, expanding on certain topics, and maintaining the book's distinct approach.
• Concerns about expert bias and blindness in a Rust programming project
• Importance of considering the reader's level of knowledge when writing
• Discussion on reducing complexity by breaking down large problems into smaller, incremental changes
• The concept of "clicking" as an analogy for finding solutions to complex problems
• The importance of individual actions and small changes towards solving significant problems
• Upcoming event: Rust Nation UK conference (February 16th-17th)
**Gerhard Lazu:** Tim. Fourth time lucky.
**Tim McNamara:** I'm so sorry, Gerhard. Honestly, I wanted to be there the first time, I wanted to be there the second time, I got injured, I couldn't come on the third time... But now I'm here, and I want to know that -- like, my time is yours. Yeah, feel free to use it however you think would be most suitable.
**Gerhard Lazu:** Well, I have to say thank you very much, Tim, to our listeners. That's how badly I wanted to have this conversation. I tried until it happened. Okay? And we have been delaying it, I think by a few weeks, and we spoke about it briefly in September, and then holidays happened, and then all sorts of othe...