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**Adam Stacoviak:** That actually is a proper page to send people to. If you scroll a couple of times, listeners, if you're going there, scroll a little bit past some of the things that are important, but... If you want to go right to the sponsor details, this is actually really cool. You've got like one leg sponsor, w... |
**Jim Remsik:** Yeah, I think the truth of our work days and the events that we put on is that we can kind of make them look however we want. Like, there's going to be lines, but you don't always have to stay within the lines. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. |
**Jim Remsik:** \[32:11\] This is quite literally me putting -- somebody suggested I was playing Johnny Appleseed, going around planting a bunch of trees... And if we go to Atlanta, and we're working with the local organizers in Atlanta, and if they say "Hey, this turned out really well." "Would you mind if we do this ... |
So if somebody takes that playbook and runs with their own conference in Atlanta next year, we'll go somewhere else. We've already spoken with folks in Boston, Denver and Kansas City, that are asking "Would you bring an XO Ruby conference here?" And the answer is let's get the first three out of the way first, and then... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. Does that mean that -- I'm on the Madison Ruby website now... Sorry, if I'm pulling up some more things here, but... I'm noticing that it doesn't say 2025 on this webpage I'm on now, MadisonRuby.com. |
**Jim Remsik:** Adam, I'm already putting on six conferences this year. Do you want me to put one out in Madison to you? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I'm not suggesting that you are. What I'm asking is does that mean this is paused, so that you can do this? |
**Jim Remsik:** Absolutely. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Okay. |
**Jim Remsik:** This is a heavy lift, and the first year of a conference is always the hardest. Anybody who's been to a Madison Ruby will recognize bits and pieces of what we've done in Madison in each of these, including some of the speakers, including some of the activities and whatnot. So I want to do something in M... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Does the website get a lot of traffic to Madison Ruby? Or is it just kind of like fickle whenever there's no event really happening? |
**Jim Remsik:** It seems like it's fairly fickle, and on Monday, for some reason, we got 400 hits, and I have no idea why. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. Well, those 400 people did not know about XO Ruby. That was gonna be my next thing, was like "Okay, let's tell--" I mean, because you're famous for doing this for ten seasons, as you had said. Was it nine or ten? |
**Jim Remsik:** Ten. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Ten. I mean, ten's a lot, right? That's a decade of producing a conference... So there's gotta be some sort of brand equity there, where people are coming back to it, or there's content that people are coming to... Leverage that. Promote XO Ruby on Madison Ruby. It's all your company, Flagrant, so I... |
**Jim Remsik:** "We'll be back..." |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah, "We'll be back." Thumbs up. |
**Break**: \[34:55\] |
**Jerod Santo:** What are some of the challenges that have come up with organizing six in a row, I guess, or... You have to organize them in parallel, but they operate in a row. I assume call for papers is probably harder, and lots of stuff's probably harder when you have six things going on. |
**Jim Remsik:** So yes, that is true, which is why we didn't do a traditional CFP for this. |
**Jerod Santo:** Okay. |
**Jim Remsik:** I largely curated the talks for the first couple of events. If you go to the schedule, if there's a slot where there's not a speaker, there is a link there to sign up and say that you'd like to join... Because again, the hope is that either we or somebody else will do this again next year. And so we rea... |
The failures cascade... Thankfully, in the first round, we actually lost our venue in Chicago once, and had to go to a backup. And while I'm extremely happy with the backup - in fact, that's what happened with Madison Plus Ruby the first year, and we wound up with this amazing venue that we really loved... But that mea... |
So that is a risk in doing these sort of in series. Typically, you get into a workflow of -- you know, there's a \[unintelligible 00:39:00.19\] conference, and then you're done and you get your rest. And it's just been building for the last couple of months, and in two weeks we'll get some relief. |
**Jerod Santo:** So you picked this every Saturday cadence for a group of three, and then it seems like there's some short break, and then another group of three. Thoughts behind that? Like, what -- versus, you could have done it like every other week, and maybe just spread them out and relax a little bit in between...... |
**Jim Remsik:** I should have done Sundays... Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, you know? |
**Jerod Santo:** \[laughs\] Hey, you could have sold more tickets that way. Sounds like a deal. |
**Jim Remsik:** You buy the entire seat, but you'll only use the edge. Sorry... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** \[laughs\] That was a good one. |
**Jim Remsik:** I grew up going to racetracks. My dad drove stock cars... But there is a gap, you're absolutely right. In fact, I drive from Chicago to Atlanta to New Orleans... And then Austin's right here, but instead of going to Austin, I drive back to Wisconsin. My wife's birthday is in that gap, and so I wanted to... |
**Jerod Santo:** Gotcha. You're going to take a -- do you make a documentary or something, like a road trip... You know, road rules, but RubyConf style, Ruby conferences, XO Ruby road rules. |
**Jim Remsik:** I do have a little mobile camera rig, like a cage to put around my mobile camera... And I've been talking with some filmmakers about getting -- like, even just behind the scenes stuff. If I'm driving past the largest ball of twine in the country, we'll stop and take a picture. We're also -- DNSimple is ... |
We're also working with Confreaks, trying to get them to record all these events... And if nothing else, maybe we'll do something a little bit DIY to get them recorded if we need to. |
**Jerod Santo:** Man, I haven't heard the name Confreaks in a long time. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** It has been a long time. So long, I was going to ask you to remind me of the person's name. And as soon as you say it's going to be -- who runs that...? |
**Jim Remsik:** You are probably thinking of Coby. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yes... |
**Jim Remsik:** \[41:56\] Coby Randquist. He's at Heroku. He's got bigger fish to fry. He worked with Cindy Backman, who has been running Confreaks for the last six, seven years, and always brings a really... Like, she sees so much. She goes to so many conferences and so many Ruby events and whatnot... She's got an int... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** It's a lot of work. So much work. |
**Jim Remsik:** Yeah. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Wow... Actually, the last time I think we saw -- is it Coby? Is that right? |
**Jim Remsik:** Mm-hm. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Last time we saw Coby was at Keep Ruby Weird, first edition here in Austin, Jerod. Remember that? 2014. |
**Jerod Santo:** I remember the event, I don't remember that being the last time -- |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Coby was in the rafters with us, recording. |
**Jerod Santo:** I remember that part, but didn't we see Coby at like OSCON as well later? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Maybe... |
**Jerod Santo:** Maybe. Who knows? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** It may be. |
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