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**Jim Remsik:** I think that's fair... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Because you've got pretty good touch points in Madison, right? Madison Ruby has got to be giving you something... |
**Jim Remsik:** For sure. It is also only once a year, and so we wanted to do something that... You know, the original plan was to do 12 of these every year, and it would have been a cycle that just kept going. So it was constantly meeting new people. And we decided to settle for six, and then just focus on the fall. B... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah, putting on an event is tough business. I've resisted my entire life... And Jerod, do you want to share? Recently, we did a live show. I mean, Jerod did all that, pretty much. I didn't do anything besides show up and smile, and upset a few people, really... |
**Jerod Santo:** What do you want me to share about it? There's lots of -- |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Just the fact that we did it. |
**Jerod Santo:** Yeah, we did. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** You know, the fact that we haven't done anything like that, but we did something... It was the smallest version of what we could do, basically. |
**Jerod Santo:** Yeah, totally. It's not like we did six of them in a row, we just did one. We're mere pikers, Jim. |
**Jim Remsik:** How many people? |
**Jerod Santo:** Oh, 50. |
**Jim Remsik:** That's good. I mean, that's a great audience. What sort of venue did you do it in? |
**Jerod Santo:** We did it at the Oriental Theater in Denver. So we picked the city first, and then we asked around about locations, and then found a location that was affordable and seemed like it was pretty cool... And it was both those things, so we kind of got lucky, I guess, in that way. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. |
**Jerod Santo:** They were great to work with, which can always be a variable as well... And we kept it as simple as we could possibly keep it. Even our meetup the night before was completely just like "Here's where we're going to be. Come there if you want to." That kind of thing. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. |
**Jerod Santo:** So it was just low stress for that reason. And then obviously, putting the show on is something that we normally do twice a week anyways, just not on stage. So a little bit extra, but not too much. |
**Jim Remsik:** Right on. Well received? Everything went well? |
**Jerod Santo:** I think so. There's obviously places where -- as the self-critical people that we are, there's plenty to improve. But overall, I think everybody was pretty happy about it, and the show turned out pretty well. What do you think, Adam? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I think when we did our consensus recently we said the only thing we would have changed was have onstage monitors. And I think that's a win, because if all you need is onstage monitors so you can hear yourself better in the mic as you interview somebody... Because we interviewed Nora Jones; she foun... |
\[01:18:28.01\] Just something may have happened where it was like you couldn't hear us as well, and she'd say, "Huh?" or "What did you say?" And that wouldn't have happened if we had onstage monitors or even in-ear monitors. So I feel like that's a major win, if all we walk away with is "Oh, onstage monitors." Everyth... |
**Jim Remsik:** Yeah, that's a huge victory. So you're going to do 12 next year? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** We did talk about doing several. Yeah, we did talk about more. |
**Jerod Santo:** Definitely more. Maybe not more than one a year... Maybe more than that. But I think we do want to do it again, I can tell you that much. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** We haven't circled back on it. I've kind of walked away bullish, honestly... I don't think we should do more than four. Maybe two or three in a year would be cool. Definitely not one. One's not enough. I feel like a couple. |
**Jerod Santo:** I don't know, one is special, because it's only one of the year, so you better get to it. Whereas six in eight weeks, or whatever it is... |
**Jim Remsik:** Here's the thing - the plan from the beginning was for me to drive far enough that -- somebody from Chicago is not going to drive to Atlanta, let alone the rest of the cities. And so it's local to Chicago, and there's enough people there to support that they get one a year. |
**Jerod Santo:** Right. |
**Jim Remsik:** And Atlanta gets one a year. And maybe we decide to -- rather than do San Diego, we do Denver next year. Who knows? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I like that idea. See? |
**Jerod Santo:** So now you're talking about going on tour. |
**Jim Remsik:** I'm already on tour. |
**Jerod Santo:** Well, yeah, but you're talking about us going on tour. Or you're thinking about yourself and we're thinking about ourselves... \[laughter\] |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah. We're talking about us now, Jim...! |
**Jerod Santo:** I just thought maybe we'd go to like somewhere else, and just do another one. But you never know. I can get talked into more... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I'm down for more no matter what, in terms of like doing it again. Does it have to be six or ten a year? Absolutely not. I don't think I would want to do six. But I kind of want to do more than one, not because I want to do more, but because I think it's nice to get out a couple -- like, I don't kno... |
My favorite moments - and this is totally going TMI, Jim, and I'm sorry, but my favorite moment was really the thing itself, but bringing us together in the same place. Even Fogo de Chão, and like getting to sit down and eat together... To me, that was cool. Two times a year would be perfect. One - not perfect. Three -... |
**Jerod Santo:** \[laughs\] You talked me into doing it... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Maybe. Maybe too much. |
**Jerod Santo:** Now we're negotiating here. |
**Jim Remsik:** Jerod, do you find that travel rejuvenates you? |
**Jerod Santo:** I guess it depends on the type of travel. |
**Jim Remsik:** Or the company. |
**Jerod Santo:** \[01:21:47.24\] Yes. I like traveling, so I'm not against the travel part. I don't mind road trips. For me it's a lot more complication than is necessary. So it's like "Is it worth it?" So I think once a year it's really worth it. I think twice maybe it is. But six in eight weeks - Jim, you're crazy, m... |
**Jim Remsik:** Nah, it's just two trips. |
**Jerod Santo:** \[laughs\] Oh, I'm sure you have all kinds of ways you tell yourself... I appreciate the gumption, the ambition and the drive. I think that there's people that do that. They're usually younger than all of us. They go out on tour, and they're gone for six weeks. |
**Jim Remsik:** Are you saying that I'm old? |
**Jerod Santo:** No, I said they're usually younger than all of us... So we have reached a certain, you know, age... |
**Jim Remsik:** I mean, I grew up -- I came from a large family, didn't have a lot of money, but we had... My family lived in Florida, and so probably six times in age five to twelve we would drive from Wisconsin down to Florida, straight through. Dad was always the only one that ever drove, and it just built that nost... |
**Jerod Santo:** Sure. |
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