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[S1] Okay guys, so we're back at home now and, um, yes, we had a great day going for brunch and coffee and going shopping. We didn't actually buy that much, so did we? [S2] Yeah, it was for educational purposes. [S1] Yeah.
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[S1] Yeah. So we live in the same house, but we have very different jobs. I am an English teacher, but I work on YouTube. [S2] And I am a farmer, and I work mainly outdoors on the farm. [S1] [LAUGHS] Yes. So quite the unique pair, I think. My first question for you is, what time do you usually wake up?
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[S1] Yeah. But it's interesting because Will's job isn't the same all year round. In summer, you're really, really busy. I mean, what time do you wake up in the summer? [S2] 4.30, normally. [S1] Really, really early. So in the UK, we have very long days in the summer and very short days in the winter. If you're from No...
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[S1] You'll think, "What are you complaining about?" But I remember when I was teaching English in Spain, people were surprised that the sun would rise at 4.30 in the morning in summer and then set at 10 at night. Um, but then in the winter, the sun doesn't come up 'til nine o'clock and then it can set at half past thr...
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[S1] I normally have breakfast at around 8 o'clock. When do you have yours? [S2] Either 7.30 before I go out to work, again, um, or at 10 o'clock. [S1] Uh, yes, because you go out and come back in for a break. [S2] Yes. [S1] Yeah. And what do you usually have?
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[S1] French toast. [S2] Yeah, toast fried in oil. Um, and we often have a cooked tomato and cooked mushrooms as well. So it's a huge breakfast, very high fat, and we normally have it if we have drunk alcohol the night before. [S1] Yes.
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[S1] Yeah. Um, so I either go to the gym and do an exercise class, or I stay on the farm and I go for a run. I go for a run. If you do exercise, what do you do? [S2] I do a lot of walking all day. So 80% of my day will be walking. Um, we have a Fitbit that tracks every step we take. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] Every move we mak...
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[S1] But before we talk about dinner, what do we do in the afternoons? Well, I know one thing that I often do is I walk the dog. I love taking our dog, Diego, on a long walk across all the fields, and I think he loves that too. [S2] Yes, he does. [S1] He loves it. Okay, let's talk about dinner time. Here, we normally h...
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[S1] Yeah, latest. [S2] Yeah, latest 8 o'clock. And what do we typically have for dinner? [S1] Our meals are quite varied. We normally eat fish twice a week. [S2] Yes. So one of my favorite dishes is to cook salmon with lemon, asparagus, and potatoes. We have that every single week, don't we? [S1] Yes, we do. [S2] And ...
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[S1] Um, okay. Let's say four, uh, different types of vegetables will be on your plate as well. That would be broccoli, cabbage, peas, beans, carrots. [S2] Parsnips. [S1] Parsnips, yes. [S2] That's
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[S1] ... and some herbs, and they're all blended together and made into like a bowl. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Really. [S2] And it's quite doughy. It's quite heavy. Um, and then we also have Yorkshire puddings, which is like a big,
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[S1] It's like a big, fluffy pancake, almost. [S2] Yeah. [S1] The mixture is the same as pancake mixture, but it's very light and airy. It starts off this size and it grows and grows. And if I have one, I always give it to Will 'cause it's just too much food for me. [S2] And Will accepts. [S1] He does.
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[S1] ... injuries. [S2] I was sat on a black clip. That's what I heard. [S1] [LAUGHS] Also, another reason was time. I mean, when you start working, especially if you work on a farm- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... it's so hard to take time off because you depend on the weather, don't you? [S2] Yeah. [S1] Ooh, we have a lovely que...
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[S1] So the first show that comes to mind is Mock the Week. [S2] Yes. [S1] It's a comedy show based on, uh, recent news and comedians are on the panel and they make a joke, uh, about current affairs.
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[S1] ... crazy. [S2] Just a little bit, yes. [S1] Watching all of my old favorite TV programs. But The Vicar of Dibley is a vicar played by Dawn French, one of my favorite comedians. She moves to a very small village in Oxfordshire, I think, and it's about her trials and tribulations of running a church in such a small...
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Uh, I also like being creative. I like cooking and I love making cards for my family for their birthdays. What else do I like? Shopping. [S1] You hate driving. [S2] I hate driving. That's true. But are there any hobbies that we both love and we can do together? [S1] Uh, going for long walks in the countryside. [S2] Tha...
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[S1] But I'm definitely cooking a lot more now. [S2] That's true. Will has upped his game, where it happens. [S1] Oh, yes I have. [S2] ... to cooking. I got served the most beautiful salad today with chicken, bacon, sweet corn, avocado. [S1] Walnuts. [S2] Walnuts. Coriander, even though you don't like coriander. [S1] S...
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[S1] The noise is, I should think it was a lot louder than it is now, but still. [S2] Yeah. Okay, we have Salma from Morocco. I think she's also an English teacher, actually. Her name is English with Salma, so shout out to her. She wants to know what are the most common hobbies in England? The most common ones. Footbal...
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[S1] So I'd say one thing that we did that we'd never done before is Zoom pub quizzes. So this is a popular pastime for British people. We love going to the pub and we also love quizzes. So a lot of pubs, once a month, will host a quiz. So you have to get a team between, I think, one and six people. [S2] Yeah, normally...
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[S1] ... showed, like, crazy comments and we had to guess if they were real or not, and it was hilarious 'cause, you know, I do get some strange comments every now and again. Um, so beware. If you comment anything strange, you might be in the next quiz 'cause we're in lockdown again. [S2] Yeah. You'll probably never kn...
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[S1] ... bungee jumping or sea diving. Bungee diving? God, that would hurt your neck, wouldn't it, if you hit the water. Well, I've never done that many ex- extreme sports. I've done sky diving, but it was indoor sky diving. So it wasn't real sky diving, not that extreme. Um, you've done a lot more than me, though. [S2...
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[S1] So Christmas is probably the biggest one. Um, but I'm also thinking of frequent festivals as well. We have a, we have a lot of beer festivals. [S2] Yes. [S1] So often pubs in the summer normally will put on an event called a Beer and Cider, and normally sausage festival as well- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... to try and brin...
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[S1] Okay. Well, I've got one small one. There's a new class at my gym, um, where they've got a little trampoline with handles. I've shown you a video already 'cause I was so excited about it. [S2] Yes. [S1] And you jump to the beat, to the music. I am so excited to try that when it starts at the gym. [S2] I think you'...
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[S1] ... or just use my code Lucy. Don't forget to connect with us on all of our social media. I've got my Instagram. Will's got his Instagram. I've got my Facebook. Don't worry about Will's Facebook, but we've also got my mailing list as well. Oh, and we should mention the personal channel, 'cause that's where you sta...
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[S1] ... dabble. Um, yes, we also have the personal channel where we do vlogs of our daily life on an English farm. So if you enjoyed this lesson and you learnt a lot of vocabulary, all of those vlogs are subtitled, so that might help you a lot as well. We will see you soon for another lesson. Mwah. Will, you've got to...
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[S1] Yes, definitely. This is all about learning and sharing, so please do use that comment section to tell us how you speak and the words that you use. [S2] What I'd love to do is, um, give you a taste of what one form of the Indian accent sounds like in, when we're discussing these words, so, yeah. [S1] Yes, please d...
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[S1] In Indian English, it's often called curd, which is really interesting because curd actually has a different meaning, I guess, in British English. When we imagine curd- [S2] Yes. [S1] ... do we im- imagine different consistency? [S2] Yeah. Isn't curd, like, the creamy part of milk? [S1] Mm-hmm. Exactly, yeah. In I...
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[S1] Absolutely. Yeah, that could be, that could be a viable, um, reason. I think there might be a difference in the numbering systems as well across, across the, uh, the different nations. So that will i- influence, um, how we think about numbers and then the term that we attribute to a particular sum of, of money or ...
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[S1] Mm-hmm. Now, you would often hear this being referred to as an alliance. Um, sounds really formal, doesn't it? How- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... forming an allian- [S2] It does. [S1] Um, but yeah, that's often a term that- [S2] Would you also use marriage as well? [S1] Yeah, for sure. [S2] Okay. [S1] Um, but in terms of an...
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[S1] Um, when actually it describes an emotional connection. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And an official one as well. [S2] Yeah. Let us know if, um, marriage is often referred to in a different way in, from the part of India that you're from. So, uh, the next one is, you know, when it's a rainy day and you're, you just want to cat...
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[S1] It makes sense. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Halt is kind of a more formal word. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Like a more old fashioned word for stop. [S2] Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. [S1] Um, in British English. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And then a stand, well, you stand there, don't you? So... [S2] Yeah, so, yeah. [S1] Logical. [S2] And I guess they're maybe ...
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[S1] Yeah, that would be really interesting to know because we say miss or misses depending if they're, depending on if they're married or not. Yeah, I'd like to know that. [S2] The next one is all about how we refer to members of our family. So Lucy, if I was to say that I met up with my brother- [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] ......
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[S1] Mm-hmm. In Indian English, brother could also mean my male cousin. [S2] Interesting. So you, do you use the word cousin still? [S1] No. So this is why when we speak to a person who's speaking with British English, we would have to clarify that and say cousin brother. [S2] Oh. [S1] Even though it means cousin, um, ...
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[S1] Or cousin, sister, if it was a female. [S2] Okay. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Yeah, it's just the same for us. Cousin. Okay, the next one is this. In British English, we say boot or car boot. [S1] Yeah. In Indian English, we say dickie. So could you put the luggage in the dickie? Or could you, could you lend me a hand and put...
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[S1] Awesome. And we've also seen a couple of other spellings for it, like- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... diggy as well. I guess it just depends on the pronunciation. [S2] Okay. So, as we mentioned earlier, lots of different Indian accents, so I guess that's what influences the spelling then. [S1] Yeah. And, um, again, this is a...
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[S1] So the next one that I wanted to introduce you to is how we use the word current in our day-to-day life. [S2] Okay. [S1] If I said current, what would you understand that as? [S2] Current as in in the moment. [S1] Ooh, that is a good homophone, isn't it? Um- [S2] Yes. [S1] The current for it, it is cur- in the cur...
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[S1] Current as in like an ocean current or electricity current. [S2] Ooh. Yes. So we use the word current to replace electricity. I could advise you, be careful of the current Lucy, uh, when you are plugging in the plug into the, the socket. [S1] Be careful of the electricity. [S2] Yes, perfect. [S1] Awesome. I never ...
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[S1] The next one we've got on the screen, in Indian English, it could be referred to as the washroom, but it could also be referred to as the toilet too. Um, but what about British English? [S2] Well, we also say toilet. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] Um, I know that's something that in American English they find a bit disgusting ...
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[S1] Yeah. Like, really, I would say we knew each other ancillary, uh, reasons. But we really met when Fincher cast us in Zodiac. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And I remember Mark is doing a scene in a phone booth, about take 218, and I'm visiting San Francisco 'cause I'm about to start. [S2] That's right. [S1] And I could just see ...
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[S1] Yeah. Me too. But that is on the top level of so many people's, uh, favorites. And- [S2] I have a story to tell. [S1] Okay. Okay. [S2] We were shooting a scene in the mail room, and we've done it about 60 times. [S1] 60, yeah. [S2] And, you know, Mark's been working a bunch of days in a row. I'm feeling a bit, uh,...
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[S1] Exactly. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] And he, he, he invented the delete button. There was no delete button ever in digital cinema. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And he specifically had it invented so that he could say, "We're gonna delete takes 1 through 45." [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] And you're just like, "No, no, no, no." [S2] But you know, ...
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[S1] I mean, uh, look, and, and then we'll move on to a far more, uh, interesting subject, which is you and poor things. All's I know is, um, I got a call, Chris Nolan, I had a, I knew kind of what it was. I went over to his house, it was black type on red paper, you know, when they send it like that so you can't copy ...
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[S1] You redeemed it with this spark that was so delightful. I mean, I can't tell you what a joy it was watching you in this and seeing the, the whole arc, the way you constructed it. But I want to know what it was like before, during, and after. [S2] It did scare the shit out of me. [S1] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] Dancing, singing, uh, movement, um, playing with each other's faces and bodies. [S2] Oh, wow. [S1] And, and then playing together as a group. And then we probably spent maybe only 20% on the actual script.
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[S1] ... the character and the story is still kinda like surfacing its way up through the subconscious a little bit. [S2] Wow. [S1] And you just get really free and you could go broad.
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[S1] And it, and he was like, "You don't have to do anything. You did it. You are it. Don't do anything. Don't do the, the look and you don't have to tell us what's going on here. You know, just do it. Trust what we did." And he scrapped that first day. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] I had to reshoot the first day. [S2] Great. [S1...
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[S1] I had no idea there, there was that kind of intimacy. I, I, when I think of his films, I, I, I'm just seeing this like mass scale, but. [S2] Yeah. [S1] That's, 'cause that makes a lot of sense. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Because there are some really intimate performances in, in that film, and I, I was wondering how did the,...
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[S1] And then you're moving at such a clip that you realize if you're not getting and staying in the zone and not checking your phone and not hanging out at craft service, "Oh, there is no craft service," that you're going to miss the pace of what he's doing. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] But at the same time, I've never, ever in ...
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[S1] Really want to reach out to everyone. But it was this thing where y'all seem to have this very concise execution, but you feel all the sense of play in it. And you feel the, you know, it was a really high wire rack. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Was it fun? It must've been fun. [S2] Oh, it was-
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[S1] You know, all the eyes are on us. Everyone's eyes are on us all the time. And we have to be a certain way, and we have to look a certain way, and we have to sound a certain way. And our, our cabinets have got to be st- stocked with a certain kind of product. And, you know? [S2] This sounds very mid-century to me. ...
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[S1] That's such a great, uh, way of, of expressing it. [S2] But hats off to you, dude. I mean- [S1] Hats off to you, man. Seriously, Robert. It's a, you're, you're one of those fine,
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[S1] Artists who is constantly growing as they move through their career. That's rare. And you are that. And I love you for it. [S2] I love you for it. [S1] And I, you know, and you have everything, Robert. You know, like you, you, you don't need to, you don't need to do that. What a ter-
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[S1] What do you mean? [S2] To quote unquote, if it's true, to be said about any of us, to have everything. Is that- [S1] Huh. [S2] That sense of completion and also convincing myself, well, I should be perfectly happy as I have everything.
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[S1] And yet you go like, we know where the work is that's left to be done. I know those little corners that I sweep the dust into that I'm, I spend a lot of time making sure nobody sees. I know- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... if not the defects, I know the things that I haven't really looked at. So, and again, you know, the craz...
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[S1] With, uh, the culture of the Cold War because I felt it was so back upon us. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And so by the time Chris called, I actually knew a fair amount about Louis Strauss 'cause I'd done a lot of deep dives into all the characters around this time because I think it informed and then led to the Vietnam era, w...
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[S1] ... misplacing of our forefathers highest wishes. And that kind of dark corruption and all that stuff. So, that has to be born out of this Cold War that is born out of looking for answers to, you know, the, the conflict of World War II. [S2] And you were, you were already down that road when this came along? [S1] ...
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[S1] So you see the touch points? That's how close we are to all this, right? [S2] Yeah. [S1] And so that's, you know, light blue collar stuff to do. And please just punch about that. I think his, his marriage to my grandmother, who wound up being kind of like a Vogue model and a bit of an absentee parent to my dad, no...
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[S1] What did you relate to in that? I mean- [S2] Bro, come on. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] I mean, whether you're here or in New York, we will never forget, and I think still are imbued with the sense of being on that outside looking in.
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[S1] And when will it ever happen for us? And so-and-so is doing it, and so-and-so is doing it, and I'm going to be left behind, and why even bother to dream? But the truth be told is, he's both, 'cause he's a self-made guy- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... who was a lifelong civil servant.
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[S1] Oh, Robert. [S2] That's the, that to me is the ultimate risk. [S1] It's so, uh, it was the one part of the thing I was like, "Do I have to? What are we gonna do with this?" You know, all I could hear is like, "Nobody wants to see your old ass anymore." [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] You know, maybe you should be doing movies ...
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[S1] I just want to say this too, because knowing you forever, on one of these Avengers movies, you like take off your shirt and thing, and you were, you were, you were in really good shape. And the director was, I, I don't know if it was, uh- [S2] We did. [S1] It might've been Josh, it might've been, uh, the Russo's. ...
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[S1] Exactly. [S2] There is no one I've ever come across who is actually more anxious to not be vain, past the point where it is necessary to achieve an end for their work. [S1] Is that a compliment? [S2] It's a huge compliment, but I gotta say, A, you look pretty bangable to me, in case you were wondering. [S1] Thank ...
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