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[S1] If I start talking about how I'm really into cooking and I have this cooking, uh, cooking blog that I'm working on, they're going to start to wonder, "Hmm, is this guy, you know, working on, uh, our deal here? Is he working for us or is he actually spending most of his time on his cooking blog?" [S2] Right. [S1] R...
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[S1] where they feel safe to talk about them without judgment, without, um, the fear of punishment from their employer. [S2] That's a really good point. [S1] But in a professional context, most of the time people won't want to talk about their side hustle because they want to, they want to demonstrate that they're, you...
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[S1] Um, and not want to talk about a side hustle, right? To be reluctant- [S2] Unwilling. [S1] ... is unwilling, and not wanting to do something. Um, is if they feel like competition. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So if I'm doing a cooking blog- [S2] That's a good one. [S1] ... and Greg has a cooking blog, I'm not maybe gonna wan...
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[S1] But the reverse is also true, right? Maybe I want to collaborate with Greg and his cooking blog. So in that case, I might say, "Hey, you know, I'm working on this awesome side hustle. I think that you and I might have some ways of collaborating. Um, I have a few ideas to float around if you're interested." [S2] Th...
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[S1] If the climate, as you recall from last week, we talked about the climate. If they're, the jobs, uh, if unemployment is high at the time, um, if there's a recession, if you know that somebody recently got, um, uh, laid off from the job- [S2] Or fired, laid off, similar. [S1] Yeah. So really being sensitive to that...
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[S1] And it's also funny, right? When you listen to entrepreneurs talk and they've achieved great success, uh, they talk about how it originally started as a side hustle. [S2] Yep. [S1] Uh, or, you know, maybe a lot of YouTubers too, if you follow different YouTubers, they probably, a lot of them will tell you that
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[S1] It started as like a weekend fun thing, or, you know, um, while they were still in school and they were trying to make sense of the world and what they wanted to do after college. So a lot of these things that turn into full-time, uh- [S2] Endeavors. [S1] Endeavors, um, and opportunities can start with a side hust...
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[S1] Absolutely. So thank you so much for joining us for this advanced English conversation practice and listening. Be sure to check out our other lessons and subscribe for more videos and live streams like this one. [S2] All right. [S1] Bye, everyone. [S2] Have a great rest of the week.
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[S1] It's getting to see family. Uh, you know, we travel a lot and all of us are busy and so it's hard for the family to get together. And Thanksgiving, sometimes even more so than other holidays- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... provides
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[S1] ... a really strong impetus to gather, right? A really strong drive to gather for everyone, um, to come together- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... um, and to celebrate, you know, being a family and being together. It's, and, and the food is part of that too, right? Because- [S2] Definitely. It's a huge part of it. [S1] Yeah.
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[S1] And the pea soup has sausage. Um, and again, it's very simple. It's designed to, um, give the chefs a bit of a break before the big day. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, but also just to, you know, before you have a big feast, it's nice to do, um, something simple, uh, so that- [S2] So you're hungry enough for the big meal. [S...
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[S1] Um, and my family makes it with cream. So you basically- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... I've made this before. You, you cut it into cubes. [S2] You roast it? [S1] You take the squash, you peel it. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You cut it in cubes, you dump, roast it. [S2] Oh. [S1] You put the raw cubes in a pot with cream. [S2] Oh my gosh...
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[S1] But they're these little turt berries, red, round, turt berries. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, and you can get cranberry juice, which they often live with sugar. [S2] Yep. [S1] But it is yummy. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Um, if you, especially if you can find the low sugar variety. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, and then you have cranberry sa...
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[S1] Literally hours. [S2] Oh, yeah. It can, it can. And, uh, I mean, it depends how you cook. There's many different cooking styles. [S1] Oh. [S2] So you can quick cook it or slow cook it. [S1] Right. [S2] You can also spatchcock it, which means you open up the turkey in pieces. [S1] Yes, you lay it kind of like flat....
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[S1] The other challenge with it is you now have a frozen turkey. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And typically if you have a frozen piece of food- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... um, you stick it in the fridge for a day or two to defrost. And so if you wanna be safe, you do two days. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, and then you're ready to go. Well, what I'...
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[S1] But it's also not tied around like a commercial, uh, like exchange almost, right? It's not about present. It's not about trying to buy somebody something or to exchange gifts. It's really about the food and the time and the togetherness. I think that's what's really nice about it. [S2] Yeah. That's a really good p...
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[S1] But the problem is I'm the only one in my family- [S2] I started liking it too. [S1] ... who likes pumpkin pie. I'm glad you've joined the ranks. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And- [S2] I didn't used to, but I started liking it a lot. [S1] Good. Good. So I have another, uh, I have another, uh, teammate- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... in t...
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[S1] Yeah. But again, I happen to be the only one that seems to really like it. I'm glad, and you. [S2] And me too. [S1] So. [S2] Um, I like cheesecake, but that's not really like a Thanksgiving. That's not really Thanksgiving-y. [S1] You say that, but it turns out for this Thanksgiving- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... we're gonna...
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[S1] Yeah, well, I, I'm looking forward to that, 'cause one, I love cheesecake, and now I've started really liking pumpkins, so that should be amazing. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, provided that it's not too sweet, 'cause we try to cut down the sugar. [S2] Yeah. [S1] But the other ones that I really like, and this is more tradi...
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[S1] I'll have like this, I'll have like a tiny little bit. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Yeah. [S2] I think for people who like, want to participate in Thanksgiving, but maybe might have like, dietary restrictions or allergies or things, like, I think it's, it's definitely not uncommon to bring a dish to the Thanksgiving. Let's say...
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[S1] go around the table saying what you're grateful for, if that's your jam. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And it's just like a fun time to connect with people and have some good food. [S2] Absolutely, yeah. So if you get the chance, uh, and the inclination, we strongly encourage you to have your own Thanksgiving wherever you are. ...
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[S1] Yeah. [S2] Yeah. [S1] All right. Thank you so much for joining us. We'll see you in the next Advanced English. Bye, everyone.
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[S1] Uh, also known as food. [S2] Right. [S1] Cuisine and food. Um, then, then meets the eye, right? Because America is such a diverse blend of cultures. [S2] Right. [S1] So, you know, uh, if you look at all the popular foods, they actually have origins in other countries. So a burger,
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[S1] ... is more German, uh, pizzas, you know, I, I, people often think of Italian. [S2] Right. [S1] Right? Um, and then you have Mexican food, right? Um- [S2] Very true. [S1] There's a very large Spanish-speaking population in the US, um, and a lot of that comes from South America. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, uh, and Mexico. ...
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[S1] Um, what you also have is Americanized Mexican food. [S2] That's right. [S1] Which they call tex-mex, right? [S2] Yeah, that's right. [S1] Tex for Texas. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And mex for Mexican. So obviously, uh, there's a lot of, Texas has a lot of Mexican influence, um, including the food. And so, yeah, you can get ...
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[S1] So let's talk about that for a second. What does it mean for the food to be Americanized? Because we talk about, um, like Chinese food in the US can be Americanized. Mexican food might be Americanized. Uh, Turkish food might be Americanized, to a certain extent. What does that mean for some type of cuisine to be A...
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[S1] Um, but to be iced is like to transform, to turn into something, right? So we're saying it's Americanized, it's being transformed into American. Um, and this just happens a lot in America. There's a lot of cultural assimilation. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And so that happens certainly with food, right? So when a, uh, immigra...
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[S1] Uh, moved to the US and particularly, uh, forms a community there of immigrants from the same country. They start to blend with the American elements, right? So they're, they're, uh, original cultural heritage starts to blend with the American- [S2] That's right. [S1] ... heritage. Um, and you get this cool fusion...
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[S1] of, of flavors and spices in the food. [S2] Right. [S1] And so when food becomes Americanized, um, it typically starts to incorporate some of the aspects that Americans like to have. Um, often things get more fried. [S2] Right. [S1] Americans like things fried. [S2] For sure. [S1] Things tend to get sweeter. [S2] ...
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[S1] Yes. Double the portion. [S2] Yes. [S1] I remember when I was in France, and this is not, uh, uncommon for people to sort of notice in France. If, especially if they have gone to the US or visited the US and they come back to France, they notice the portions are doubled in the US, sometimes tripled. And what we ha...
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[S1] It is what it is. Yeah. And, um, the other thing, though, you know, a lot of people, when they go out to restaurants, they'll ask for a doggy bag, and that way you can take away maybe half of what you didn't get to finish. And you're, since you're paying for the entire meal, you might as well take what you hadn't ...
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[S1] Um, take home would be if you're in the restaurant, you have some extra food left over and you say, "I'll, I'll box this. I'll take it home." [S2] Yeah. You could say, "I'll box it up and take it home," or, "I'll take a doggy bag." And, um- [S1] Yeah. [S2] ... that comes from sort of the tradition of saying that y...
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[S1] Yeah. [S2] It's a doggy bag. [S1] That is interesting. I think I remember reading in French class eons ago that somewhere, uh, in France, this, uh, in the 19th century, this sort of, uh, came into fashion, having a doggy bag. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So you wouldn't finish everything 'cause you didn't wanna look like a, ...
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[S1] ... be awesome. Speaking of Thanksgiving, so the other question I sort of get when I'm abroad, and I don't know about you, Greg, but people ask, "What's the traditional American food?" Or oftentimes people say, "You don't have traditional American food." And I'll stop and think for a minute, and then I'll, definit...
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[S1] I don't know that it would be a traditional food per se, but we have traditions around food. [S2] Absolutely, yeah. I would say we have holiday-specific food. [S1] Exactly. [S2] Right. [S1] That's what I was thinking of. [S2] The, the most obvious being Thanksgiving. [S1] 100%, right. [S2] At Thanksgiving, if you ...
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[S1] And then we'll have specific pies, like pumpkin pie, apple pie. Generally, that. Pecan, maybe. Some people- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... tend to have. [S2] Exactly. [S1] But we have traditional, we have foods that we definitely eat on that day, or at least, technically speaking, a lot of people do. There are some years whe...
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[S1] But it still is a good question. You know, if, if you are, let's say you start a restaurant in Germany. [S2] Yeah. [S1] 'Cause I brought it up earlier. And you're gonna start an American restaurant there. [S2] Yeah. [S1] What dishes do you serve, right? What's traditional American for- [S2] Right.
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[S1] Right, exactly. I mean, honestly- [S2] It's tough to put your finger on. [S1] ... what comes to mind, and this will kind of perpetuate the stereotype of Americans eating burgers and pizza and hot dogs. I mean, it, the reality is, is that a lot of people, myself included, like, I'll definitely enjoy a burger if we ...
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[S1] Barbecue is a good one. [S2] Yeah. [S1] That's right. Yeah. Particularly, um, in Texas. Texas is most famous for it. Um, but- [S2] Exactly. [S1] ... throughout the South, uh, you have, uh, barbecue as a centerpiece of anyone's house, right? [S2] Right. [S1] Um, and, and, and their regular diet. Uh, and barbecue is...
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[S1] Yeah. And so I think if, going back to that restaurant example, if what you were gonna do, you would have to sort of, um, designate what type of American food. So if it's traditional American comfort food, then you're gonna see burgers on there. [S2] Fried chicken. [S1] You're gonna see fried chicken.
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[S1] You're going to see fried chicken. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Uh, some of these staples, um, probably mac and cheese. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Right? [S2] Mac and cheese. [S1] Which is macaroni pasta with, with cheese. Um, creamy and delicious. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You're going to see those comfort- [S2] Mashed potatoes. [S1] ... mashed p...
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[S1] Um, more delicate flavors, probably a lot of farm fresh, um, you know, ingredients. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Uh, borrowing probably from other cultures that have sort of made their way into the US. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, st- stuff that you might not expect, um, to be on a, an American menu.
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[S1] Yeah, I had the same experience with Chinese food, right? So I lived in China for, for several years. [S2] Right. [S1] And, uh, the Chinese food there, I mean, first of all, China's a huge country, so- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... different parts of China, you get very different types of food. In the US, if you go to a Chi...
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[S1] Right. So the fusion food would be more of you're adding an element of another culture's cuisine or influence into another one. So it could be, I remember I went to a sushi restaurant years ago. It was, um, Cuban mixed with Japanese, which was really cool. [S2] Cool. Yeah. [S1] So they did some unique, you know, t...
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[S1] ... you know, lacking fiber and nutrients and vegetables. [S2] Yeah, there's, there's a, um, we have a, a doctor we like to listen to, Peter Atilla, and he has a, a funny acronym for the Standard American Diet. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Which the acronym is S-A-D, right? Standard American Diet, which of course spells SAD. A...
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[S1] From a health perspective, the standard American diet is a little sad because, you know, if you look at, uh, obesity charts, America's definitely at the top among the countries in the world, right? [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] We're, we're very high up there. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, and that has a lot to do with the standard Ame...
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[S1] ... about being active. [S2] 100%. [S1] And a lot of people are busy and they don't, you know, get around to it. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So you couple that with the kind of, you know, large portions of, uh, food that can ultimately, you know, uh, lead to metabolic imbalances, um, you end up, um, with a situation where you...
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[S1] Yeah, there's definitely- [S2] That's nice. [S1] ... the, the trend is toward, um, improvement. I mean, America tries hard, right? [S2] For sure. [S1] So it's tough, right? Americans are very science-oriented. They really like science. [S2] Yeah. [S1] The problem is nutritional science is such a difficult topic. [...
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[S1] ... that. Yeah. [S2] Um, and, and, you know, fats are at the top. Eat no fat, eat lots of carbohydrates. [S1] So when you have, think of a pyramid, right? This is what they would teach us in school when we had a nutrition class, where the bottom would be the ingredients, the foods that you should eat the most of. ...
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[S1] Right. And then at the top is the healthy fats, maybe the butter and this and that. But what we realize now is that we're supposed to invert that triangle, so- [S2] To some extent. [S1] To some extent, and- [S2] The point is we got the order wrong, right? [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] We don't really know what the answer is....
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[S1] ... mindful eating. And, you know, I, you know, whether or not any specific fat is accurate or, or effective is less important than the fact that, you know, we're at least trying. We, we have, um, it's, it's a real focus- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... for Americans now. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And, um, I think, you know, most peopl...
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[S1] Um, with something that's, you know, less caloric, less, um, uh, high glycemic, right? [S2] Yeah. [S1] So you could use cauliflower, so you can get cauliflower crust. [S2] Yeah. Uh, I've made it. It's actually really fun to make. I've made cauliflower pizza. [S1] Yeah. [S2] And, um, you know, it takes a little, it...
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[S1] So, you know- [S2] That's another method. [S1] ... instead of the American portion size, have a Japanese portion size, which, you know, from my experience in Japan, is much smaller. And so that way you can still eat these dense caloric items, but you're having less of it. And so, um- [S2] Right. And I
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[S1] Um, you know, you know what's going into the burger that you're making or the bread that's in there. [S2] Definitely, yeah. [S1] 'Cause the processed food is not going to keep you full. I mean, you can look into it. There have been many studies about how the brain, the signal that our brains get is not, "I'm done ...
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[S1] Okay, Greg, so I wanna hear from you. Why do you love camping so much? [S2] Well, first of all, I think we should differentiate between camping and backpacking. [S1] Oh, okay. That's a good one. [S2] Right?
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[S1] That's a good one. [S2] So camping is sort of a catch-all for, um, going out into nature. [S1] Right. [S2] Um, and spending the night, or multiple nights. Now, the question is, are you going out in a car with all your equipment in the car?
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[S1] Um, so regardless of those two. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, what I love about camping in general, and I think you can say camping as a catch-all to include both of those. [S2] Right. [S1] Um, but I wanted to make that distinction right off the bat. Um, the reason I love it is that I just love spending time in nature, righ...
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[S1] Definitely. Yeah, no, forest bathing is such a cool term. I think it, um, perfectly encapsulates what I love about camping, right? [S2] Right. [S1] It is like you're bathing in nature. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, the same way, I know you might th- think about, um, taking an Epsom salt bath, right? That's, you know, you ha...
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[S1] And it's not necessarily that you're bathing, as in submerging yourself in water, like you- [S2] But you could. [S1] ... might in a bath, though you could. But it's what Greg said, where you're really just surrounding yourself in nature. So if all of nature's, you know, abundance of trees and plants and just verda...
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[S1] ... and immersed, right? We use these terms, they're often, um, liquid related terms, right? So, and to immerse yourself in nature, right? And it, the most strict sense of immersion is to dip something into a liquid, right? [S2] Yeah. [S1] So you immerse something in water. Um, here we're immersing ourselves in na...
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[S1] Right? [S2] That's a good one, yeah. [S1] You're bathing the brain, uh, with nature. So it's these sort of water terms where you're really just, uh, surrounding yourself and soaking yourself in it. Um, and it's just, yeah, it's a great experience.
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[S1] Um, you can also pack, um, a lot of heavier stuff, right? Like heavier types of foods and fuels and so forth. Um, so what are you gonna pack, right? You're gonna want a tent. You need something over your head, right, when you go in to sleep. [S2] That's right. [S1] Um, you're gonna want a sleeping bag.
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[S1] I was going to say bug protection. That's a big one. [S2] Bug protection, yeah. [S1] Because it might not be something you think about for the warmer temperatures or cooler temperatures, but the bug situation can be crazy sometimes. [S2] Oh, yeah. Totally. And then you have wool socks. You should always have wool ...
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[S1] Yeah, sure. So, okay. Yeah, let's, let's, let's step back a little bit. Um, when you, uh, go to a car camping site- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... you, uh, typically these camping sites are gonna be either in a field- [S2] Right. [S1] ... in a big open grassy field- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... or they could be set inside the woods...
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[S1] Your patch of grass or dirt. Um, it'll say, you know, like number 23 or, you know, uh, fire log site, right? They'll have little fun little names. [S2] Yeah, names. [S1] Yeah, yeah. The deer site. Okay, so, um, you get to your site, um, and that's when you can start to unpack, right? You can set up your tent on th...
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[S1] How to build a fire, doing, you know, any sort of, giving any assistance to campers or- [S2] Outdoor safety in general. [S1] Exactly. [S2] Yeah. They are, they're very experienced and they're- [S1] Yeah. [S2] ... super handy to have around, but they're not always there. [S1] Right. [S2] Um, you can also go onto Yo...
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[S1] Delightful. [S2] Yeah, really handy. [S1] Yeah. [S2] So yeah, you need to bring water. [S1] So water. [S2] And bring way more water than you think you need, right? [S1] Wow. [S2] Just tons of water for each person you should have. I mean, I'd have to look up what the number is. I generally always have a sense how ...
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[S1] least. Yeah, I would say really like one of those five liters- [S2] Per day. [S1] ... per day, per day, per day. [S2] Yeah, yeah. [S1] Um, at least one five liter drug per person. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And you can also look at your campsite. Is it close to water? [S2] Right. [S1] Like a, a stream or a lake? [S2] A strea...
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[S1] Even if there's a sign, I- [S2] Really? [S1] Yeah. I mean, unless it's coming out of a pipe that says drinking water. [S2] Oh. [S1] Right? But if this, if, you know, if they say, "Oh, this stream is safe to drink from," well, you don't know, right? [S2] Yeah. [S1] You don't know if there was a dead animal upstream...
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[S1] Yeah. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You can also get pumps, which are a little heavier, and that's probably recommended if you have a car, 'cause the weight doesn't matter as much. So you bring a pump, and then you can just pump the water, and you don't need to use chemicals. [S2] Right, that's good. Now we can get to the food....
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[S1] So keep in mind, a lot of the food that you make while you're camping also requires water. [S2] Yes. [S1] Typically purified water. Uh, and so, uh, you have to factor in that with your water equation. [S2] Yeah. [S1] But in terms of food, I mean, the sky is really the limit, right? In terms of how complicated you ...
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[S1] ... container. [S2] Uh-huh. [S1] Right? Something hard and sealed. [S2] That you can seal. [S1] You literally have things called bare containers. [S2] Oh, wow. What does that look like? [S1] There's these plastic polyurethane, um, containers, right? [S2] Uh-huh. [S1] Basically indestructible. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Um,...
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