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bilibili_data_22095156_BV19C4y1C7r1_p98_BV19C4y1C7r1_p98_m4-dialogue_0009030 | [S1] Um, and as a result, it ends up being potentially offensive. Um, a lot of times it isn't- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... and it's just for fun. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, and it's certainly not intended to be. [S2] Yeah. [S1] But it is, you're right, something to be mindful of when, um, when, you know, sampling other accents. | 15.2 | 2.940875 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_22095156_BV19C4y1C7r1_p98_BV19C4y1C7r1_p98_m4-dialogue_0009030.mp3 | [
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