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[S1] Let's meet outside of the restaurant at a quarter after seven. [S2] What time is it right now? [S1] Right now, it's 20 minutes after three. Let's take a break in 10 minutes. [S2] What time is it right now? [S1] It's 20 to nine right now.
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[S1] What time is it? [S2] It's ten after four. She's ten minutes late. [S1] What time is it? [S2] It's a quarter to eight. The movie starts in 15 minutes. [S1] What time is it?
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[S1] We are almost finished work. It's five to 11. [S2] What time is it? [S1] It's not five o'clock yet. It's eight minutes to. [S2] What time is it right now?
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[S1] Our train leaves at 7 o'clock. It's 3 to 7 right now. Hurry up, let's run, we're gonna be late. [S2] What time does he work until today? [S1] I have to work until 4.30 today.
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[S1] What time does he finish work tonight? [S2] Tonight, I finish working at half past nine. [S1] What time will they meet? [S2] Let's meet outside of the restaurant at a quarter after seven. [S1] What time is it right now?
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[S1] Right now, it's 20 minutes after 3. Let's take a break in 10 minutes. [S2] What time is it right now? [S1] It's 20 to 9 right now. [S2] What time is it? [S1] It's 10 after 4. She's 10 minutes late.
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[S1] What time is it? [S2] It's a quarter to eight. The movie starts in 15 minutes. [S1] What time is it? [S2] We are almost finished work. It's five to 11. [S1] What time is it?
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[S1] It's not five o'clock yet. It's eight minutes to. [S2] Is it right now? [S1] Our train leaves at seven o'clock. It's three to seven right now. Hurry up, let's run. We're gonna be late.
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[S1] And I don't know that I've ever believed in athlete as much as I believe Jordan. He was like, "What are you guys doing? Like, we're supposed to win these games." And I know we're getting into this in a little greater de- I'm so motivated right now. Like, I wanna- [S2] I get it. [S1] ... do something. I wanna go ou...
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[S1] A lot of it's a Jordan, Jordan impersonation by Kobe. [S2] Yeah, no question. [S1] So, um, you know, Muhammad Ali maybe. [S2] But Jordan, Jordan really believed it. [S1] Yeah, like- [S2] He really believed the step on somebody's neck, you can't let them up. You have to motivate people, you have to drive them, and ...
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[S1] Right. And in episode two, the, you know, after the injury, where I imagine a lot of the rest warriors out there were so happy to learn about a minutes restriction in 1985, um, but that team is 30 and 52 and is the eighth seed that ends up playing the Celtics. And Jordan, towards the end of the year, is playing in...
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[S1] ... unorganized. He's at UNC supposedly rehabbing and being at a pool and taking classes and he's running full court with the team and nobody knows. [S2] Right. [S1] Until Jordan comes back and tells Kraus and they're freaking out and they're like, "We'll let you play," but it's only seven minute burst each half a...
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[S1] That was like everybody had the same odds. So if you, if you ended up, you know, one of the seven, if, even if you were the seventh team, you had the same odds as the worst team in the league. [S2] So it wasn't weighted at all yet? 'Cause I was looking it up before we were doing it. [S1] No. [S2] It was just the s...
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[S1] No, you know, keeping- [S2] Who? [S1] ... them for the minutes restriction, right? [S2] Michael K. Gilchrist, you mean? [S1] Yeah, whatever. But- [S2] Uh-huh. [S1] But that could have been a huge pick for them, 'cause Brad Doherty was the first pick. Like, even Ron Harper, I think, was the seventh pick that year. ...
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[S1] Because he doesn't like Phil Jackson. How could you as Ryan's dwarf let that get in the way of, "Hey, it's Jordan who still wants to play. This team just won their third straight title. And by the way, we're winning 60 plus games. Championships are hard. Let's run this back." Or we can have the greatest player in ...
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[S1] After they win the second title, they almost trade Pippen to the Celtics. [S2] Right. [S1] And it was gonna be, in retrospect, a catastrophe of a trade for the Celtics. It was the third pick, the sixth pick, and I think it was their 1998 first round or two for Pippen.
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[S1] ... their leverage slash sway and be like, "Hey, it's him or me." Like do that earlier. Do that when he's coming out of baseball. Like, I'll come back, but you gotta get rid of Jerry Kraus. Like at some point, Rheinsdorff wasn't gonna value Kraus more than this Jordan dynasty, this money machine that he had. I, I ...
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[S1] Nowadays. [S2] I think it's a right door. [S1] Nowadays, somebody would, right? [S2] Well, yeah. I mean, and the thing is, is like, even though we can go, "Hey, back then, that's not how it worked," we're talking about Michael Jordan. We're talking about Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan can't stand Kraus. Pippen cle...
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[S1] Right. But Phil, Phil calls him the second best player in the world after MJ, and you go, "Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute." Like, look, Pippen is, is great in the moments where he doesn't have to stand out and be great. Like, there's all these little things, going back and watching these redraftables, or excus...
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[S1] But going into that final year, just so much more turmoil than we'd expected. But you're right. Like, I don't- [S2] Well, they could have renegotiated the contract, though. That was the mistake. [S1] They could have, 'cause it was only, there was only one year left on it. But, but then back to your original point ...
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[S1] All right, well, if Kraus is gonna get his way, I'm never playing again. And you go, okay. [S2] [LAUGHS] Well- [S1] It's like, it's impossible. [S2] Beyond the titles, think about how much money that cost them. Let's say they figured it out and he played for two more years. And that's another eight months of ticke...
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[S1] It just, it, it's, I'm like, look, the only thing that's weirder about this story is that Michael Jordan decided to play baseball for two years, but this is- [S2] Right. Well, the other thing is the rules were a little more favorable to mess around in the 97, 98 range. Like Jordan, they were just able to give him ...
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[S1] You know, you could, you could tack it on to af- after that last year, things like that. The coach thing, Jackson making $6,000,098 was a lot of money. I think he was the highest paid coach back then, except for Riley. So it's re- it's really weird. This, for people who don't know, uh, the background of this story...
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[S1] Well, so we, we were doing 30 for 30. We had it going, it was in motion. And I don't remember the t- the timeline. Oh, I do remember the timeline, actually. It was spring of 2009. It was when, uh, when LeBron played Orlando, 'cause we had a meeting with the director during that series. And this was 30 for 30 was i...
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[S1] who also had to allow all this footage where, you know, as you'll see in the next eight parts, doesn't come off great in some of this stuff, but this is the real Jordan. He had no interest and it kinda died. We died. You didn't pay, you know, $10 million for documentaries in 2009. [S2] Well, you paid $10 million t...
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[S1] What's been going on in the build up for this, you know, and I'm at home and, you know, I was looking at, at Twitter and I didn't want to be on Twitter for this though. And I would tell you right now, LeBron stands, you're all right right now. You're okay. You know? For the battle for supremacy, like whatever it i...
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[S1] But I'm just saying, you're number, you're like, you guys are like ready for battle tomorrow. You don't have any, you don't have any deserters yet. Um, I, I, is there anyone else, maybe it's Muhammad Ali. Is there anyone else that there would be this kind of anticipation for 20 years after they played, to go, okay...
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[S1] I guess I guess- [S2] It's him and Ali, that's it. [S1] It is, right? [S2] That's the whole point. It was him and Ali, and LeBron is not in that level of the conversation. He's just not. But I, you know, it's, it's so, the timing of this was bizarre, but when we were Kings was on today. [S1] Which is my favorite s...
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[S1] So that's the best sports documentary of all time. [S2] Oh, okay. [S1] And I say, and I say that as somebody who has produced a lot of sports documentaries, I, the reason I say it's the best is it's one part. If you're gonna say the best multi-part documentary, that's like a different conversation. The best docume...
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[S1] ... into his training. [S2] Oh, my God. [S1] I lose my... Right. I mean, you want to talk about being inspired. The "When We Were Kings," James Brown scene. I lose it.
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[S1] And I'd heard that Connor went to Skipper, was like, "It's gonna be six." And they went, "All right, cool. Just go for it." Is that remotely true? [S2] That's not the- [S1] You're sh- You're shaking your head vehemently. [S2] No, I- I still-
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built this cap space. And they were the first team that was really thinking about, you know, following the model of Jerry West and Shaq in 96, where it's like- [S1] Yeah, it was a couple of years out, John Gabriel. And it was like, whoa. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You know, I remember reading about it going, "Wow, this guy's a ge...
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[S1] Um, and they're gonna, we're gonna put you through a physical and we'll never tell anybody. Is that conceivable? [S2] Honestly, Bill, the shocking number would be zero teams doing it. [S1] Right. [S2] Right. [S1] So you think, you think at least two teams have done it? 'Cause I feel like at least two teams have do...
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[S1] ... to not. [S2] Right. How could you not, when you're going, okay, this is this high of a pick. I mean, despite everything we just said, and saying, "Ah, you know, let's go ahead and take the QB." And what I love about the Grand Hill thing is that, yeah, it's a, you know, if I were running a team and, and a docto...
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[S1] ... turn down Grant Hill when we've been planning this whole thing this whole time and take, you know, three Keith Bogans. I don't wanna do that. [S2] Right. [S1] No, no offense to Keith Bogans, but I, like, I don't really blame teams for doing that kind of stuff because it's so hard. So, yeah, like, back to the t...
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[S1] But they spent a lot of the savings on, uh, on franchising guys and- [S2] Yeah, I know. [S1] ... bring back McCord and things like that. I, I don't think they have the money. Anyway, you made the key point. Belichick loves nothing more than getting somebody on a discount. Like that year that they signed Revis for ...
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[S1] Well, wait, wait a second on that one also, just the history of giving running backs a contract like that is the quickest way to just commit football suicide. Over and over again, teams have done that and it's worked out horrendously. [S2] Right. So- [S1] It's the one position you should never do that to.
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[S1] But then we just front loaded into one year with him and we didn't want to sign any vets, so, you know, we paid him all that money. They trade for Brandon Cooks when the Saints and Pats don't want to pay him. He's not a one. He's not a one. And now he's on his fourth team already and they're the ones that paid him...
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[S1] The crazy thing about the Ramsay trade, they do that Peter King column after, which I happily made fun of when it happened, where they did the whole thing like, you know, it, it was like the ultimate, we joke about the zig, you know. [S2] Zag. [S1] They're, they're, they're, they, we, they did the zag where they w...
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[S1] And on top of that, it's like we have a massive salary cap dilemma. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And all, let's also not have any resources in the draft because we get to pay Ramsay because he's mis, miserable. Anyway, Jaylen, so when, uh, when I read that, I, I almost wanted them to call Peter King back and Peter King tweet, ...
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[S1] Well, it was the equivalent of an NBA team being like, you know, we've studied this in lottery picks. They just don't matter. We're just gonna tra- we're gonna trade ours every year. [S2] Yeah. Top five picks. Overrated. [S1] Mid-level starter. Yeah. So- [S2] Too much pressure on the guys. Young.
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[S1] And they traded two really juicy first round picks for Gail Goodrich, who was this Lakers guard who was the- [S2] Yeah, right. [S1] He's the, like a CJ McCollum type. And he was near the tail end of his career. They went all in on him. Then they traded more picks for Maravich. They just completely gutted their tea...
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[S1] I, you know, some of the other arguments too. [S2] It's embarrassing. [S1] The other arguments too were like, you know, this just proves that this franchise takes care of their own, you know, home grown and all this stuff. You go, yeah, it's so great. So what, what does it mean when they have to cut 'em? [S2] Whic...
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[S1] You just are. And, uh, you know, some NBA guys and certainly NFL guys, I would say even more NFL guys can, can distance themselves from it. But we've seen it so many times in the NBA where you just go, "Oh, what, what the hell were you doing here?" And then you'll hear the explanation for it and you go, "You know,...
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[S1] Well, he's, he's a tweener. Like, he's gotta grow. If he's- [S2] You're already breaking him down. [S1] Oh, he, he didn't, the state title semifinal game, he didn't even play. So, you know, I- [S2] Is he a, is he a freshman or a sophomore?
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[S1] No, that's fair. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Yeah, right, right. On talk shows, it'll, it's just they're already, he already has a roster spot. [S2] It's like a foreground conclusion. [S1] Yeah, right. [S2] Yeah. [S1] But it'd be a foreground conclusion if he was like LeBron was in high school, where LeBron, as a ninth grader...
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[S1] Uh, uh, pretending he's not unhappy, Andy Dalton being stuck in Cincinnati. But then, as we get into like that August, September range with an injury or something, there's a whole week of Andy Dalton, where's he going content. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] So like the C-block? C-block Andy Dalton content? [S2] Yeah. Andy Dal...
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[S1] Who would you pick? [S2] Oh, man. [S1] 'Cause I think River- [S2] Still- [S1] I think River's is washed already. I thought, when I saw last year, there's no co- I was telling some of the Ringer NFL guys that they were texting, and I was saying how, uh, if, when you lose the mobility and you start throwing picks as...
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[S1] ... 38. And seriously, Rothersburger's 2018 season was almost under- [S2] Monster. [S1] Yeah. I mean, he threw for, he didn't throw a, well, 34 touchdowns isn't crazy anymore, but he was the league leader in yards. His completion percentage was 67%, 320 a game. Uh, I know it's not all yardage, but I still like, I ...
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[S1] But I, like Ben's gonna stay in there and get clobbered. He's gonna tell you after too. Um, but- [S2] I don't know. [S1] ... Rivers needed to get away. Rivers needed to get away from that sundown coming, ice squinting, screaming at everybody. Although, you know, you, like you said before with, with Tua there, the ...
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[S1] Remember, Osweiler came in and looked good, and it was like, "Ah, should they just put Manning on ice? Like, is this, should this just be over?" Every quarterback it has to happen to. And it, and it has. Even Favre, when he had that rejuvenation with the Vikes, the next year he was terrible. He was- [S2] Next year...
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[S1] ... that's why- [S2] He lost it. [S1] ... that first year in Minnesota was insane coming off the Jets year where you go, okay, maybe he's done. And then he's like MVP level of, with it. And then, look, the Manning thing I'll never forget because I lost my mind about halfway through the season 'cause Denver was on ...
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[S1] Obviously, I got way too upset about it, and then that was what led- [S2] No, it was bad. [S1] It led to, 'cause it was happening every single national broadcast with Manning, where he'd make one or two nice throws, and the announcer would totally have his back, 'cause they liked him. And I get it. Look, they went...
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[S1] Uh, 29? [S2] Yeah, 30 this past season, so. [S1] Okay. [S2] Um, he's not Russell Wilson. Can we put that one to bed? 'Cause Ru- Russell, to me, is like- [S1] No, Russell's better, but you know what I mean, though. [S2] He really top- Russell's like solidly in that top five for me forever healthy. Like a healthy Ru...
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[S1] ... remedial blitz protection stuff where they got him twice with the same thing. And he's like, "Most quarterbacks would never, ever allow that to happen." He goes, "There's just stuff with Cam that he doesn't figure out the way other guys figure out." So, I don't know if that's a fit for Belichick. I don't know ...
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[S1] The thing that the, the reason I brought up him and Wilson, 'cause I do feel like they're guys, those are two guys that they could win these games against really good teams and you would kinda be watching going, "We can't stop this guy and I can't really figure out why." Especially like Caroline would have those y...
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[S1] Or Curtis Samuel. [S2] Oh, just kidding. [S1] Yeah, and, and Cam is just, like, moving down the field. And the same thing with Wilson, where you're like, "What? Wh- who's that guy? Where's this guy? How is he getting this much out of DK Metcalf?" Um, where you, they could just take the sum of the parts and do shit...
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[S1] And that whole thing. And they're, they're, now he's in the AFC West. He's going against Mahomes twice a year. Um, I would enjoy that. I hope he's good. We, we need more good quarterbacks. We don't need like another Greg Oden situation. We're, uh- [S2] Can I ask you something though on the Raiders thing? [S1] Yeah...
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[S1] I think one of the dumber things that ever happens is when people do this weird connection thing. Like if a guy went to the same school, like JJ Redick somehow is mentoring Zion Williamson because Zion was at Duke for a few months. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And there's like, yeah, you know, JJ'd be able to pull him aside. J...
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[S1] Where it's like if he ends up with the Raiders, you'd be like, "What a perfect fit." And Mario would be there. Did you know the Tua message board story from Alabama? Did you know about this? [S2] No. [S1] You didn't know about this? Oh, this is like a famous college football thing. So when Tua shows up, and everyb...
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[S1] That's a guy who's probably not successfully practicing social distancing right now. I would guess. I have one more question for you, since you love college football. [S2] Did you see the flights to Jacksonville, how cheap they are? [S1] [LAUGHS] J- [LAUGHS] J- Jalen Hertz.
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[S1] There's some, oh, he might go in in the first round kind of buzz. The Patriots, you know, Balace, who I, I'm convinced doesn't really watch college football, uh, but does have, like, the coaches that he relies on. [S2] No, he does. He does. Like, you can go through it and go, he likes this coach, he likes this coa...
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[S1] Who's your favorite, uh, quarterback other than the top two? [S2] Favorite cor- I would just wanna give you my favorite player is C.D. Lamb at Oklahoma. [S1] Okay. [S2] Baller. Just baller. I, you know, it's tough to argue against Jerry Judy, and more people, I think, have Judy ahead of C.D. Lamb. Um, I just think...
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[S1] What, what the fuck is this? This is insane. And I still think as good a NFL career as Sue's had, it's kind of disappointing compared to what I want it to be. Um, but Derek Brown is, is kinda at that level. [S2] I forgot to tell you, my son, um, my son's really into football now. [S1] Yeah, we'll get him to an LSU...
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[S1] He goes into these stages, right? So he'll go, like, he really got into wrestling. When he was, like, six, he really got into Michael Jackson for a couple months. He, he goes from, like, obsession to obsession. And he's now obsessed with the NFL. And it started with the video game. And then we started playing Mad ...
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[S1] Yeah, it's kind of tough to argue. I, I think Moss, 'cause they started playing some of the Moss highlights again, that were making the rounds this week. And it's just so funny that he could, he could admittedly not even try as, as hard as you would want him to, and it didn't matter. He could have double coverage,...
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[S1] 'Cause of course he didn't. [S2] Right. He had a couple of huge years. [S1] He had a couple of years and you're like, "God dang, Culpepper, this guy is incredible." And then you take him away from Moss, you're like, "Oh, wait a minute. Never mind. Um, I- [S2] I have, so my top four, if I had to do a Mount Rushmore...
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[S1] Football really was incredibly dangerous if you were a quarterback. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Like, Montana gets knocked out of the Giants Niners game in 90. [S2] Yeah. [S1] On what, on a hit that, if it happened now, I think, I feel like sports would stop for a month so we could just regroup. [S2] Assault. [S1] Yeah, bu...
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[S1] Yeah, I guess the only other one, I mean, if we were, and I'm not trying to be like football nerdy on this, but I, I really do think Larry Allen with the Cowboys just- [S2] Oh, wow. [S1] ... the dominance. Yeah, because just anybody that you've ever talked to that played with him, against him, and then just every,...
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[S1] ... do you have for best defensive end ever for you? [S2] So we're not calling- [S1] You can, you can get a sack. You could be, so it's, it's third and eight and you need a sack. [S2] So we are not using Lawrence in this 'cause he's a linebacker? [S1] No, no, I'm, I'm saying like linemen. So like the Reggie White,...
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