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It was lying in crates on the far side of the LZ. Somehow, we got it all into the perimeter. As I came back with the last load, I passed right over the body of that North Vietnamese I'd killed early in the fight. There wasn't much of them left, and I didn't give a damn. | <0>2343<0>3894<0>2775<0>3972<0>599<0>3968<0>587<0>3853<0>2142<0>623<0>3264<0>2748<0>3972<0>3832<0>304<0>2619<0>1715<0>2748<0>3519<0>3175<0>3585<0>2703<0>1500<0>2769<0>3176<0>3176<0>2679<0>2628<0>2826<0>3235<0>1569<0>512<0>366<0>366<0>1575<0>2955<0>2254<0>2756<0>359<0>3894<0>386<0>1850<0>3617<0>2471<0>1518<0>1518<0>229<... |
Back to the book, Lieutenant Pat Payne of the Recomplatoon was just as happy about the reinforcements as Gwyn. We were all very surprised to see those helicopters come in. | <0>1318<0>3447<0>3822<0>2883<0>512<0>382<0>3373<0>3783<0>1858<0>3002<0>2410<0>2940<0>3447<0>3899<0>2460<0>374<0>3585<0>807<0>690<0>3067<0>3373<0>2563<0>1569<0>1819<0>1518<0>1518<0>2152<0>1214<0>3373<0>3637<0>1719<0>2070<0>3850<0>2775<0>2703<0>2471<0>2231<0>3585<0>361<0>3541<0>3972<0>1862<0>2991<0>221<0>368<0>386<0>746<... |
We were only securing one side of the LZ so when the guys would jump off the helicopter, we halted them which way to come. | <0>1748<0>492<0>3067<0>259<0>3246<0>287<0>1834<0>527<0>2577<0>3667<0>698<0>2055<0>3791<0>3181<0>932<0>2579<0>623<0>623<0>2619<0>2769<0>1007<0>2142<0>3373<0>3305<0>3561<0>3437<0>3782<0>2775<0>2710<0>1171<0>3850<0>219<0>3828<0>3447<0>219<0>2703<0>3373<0>3894<0>3005<0>2471<0>1575<0>1954<0>1518<0>3809<0>3782<0>1518<0>1620<... |
I had a feeling we had actually been rescued. That and the fact that the cavalry had arrived just like in the movies. I admired the courage it took to land in Albany. | <0>1895<0>3447<0>3447<0>2410<0>1944<0>3585<0>3235<0>368<0>221<0>2070<0>2935<0>1850<0>2748<0>1010<0>1400<0>3305<0>1485<0>151<0>3894<0>1768<0>2703<0>1773<0>1842<0>2406<0>2161<0>2582<0>246<0>471<0>2162<0>1789<0>2663<0>1579<0>3447<0>3447<0>1773<0>3447<0>1944<0>1518<0>3877<0>3067<0>1587<0>2716<0>1710<0>2715<0>2013<0>3135<0>... |
Lieutenant Rescorla was one of the best combat leaders I ever saw during two tours in Vietnam. He walked around and pepped everyone up by telling them they'd done a good job, that there was support now, that things were under control. He never raised his voice, almost spoken a whisper. | <0>1603<0>679<0>3850<0>2881<0>262<0>3828<0>3447<0>1715<0>3135<0>3923<0>2471<0>366<0>1675<0>2231<0>1575<0>2070<0>1232<0>1500<0>1675<0>824<0>3235<0>1722<0>1554<0>3404<0>898<0>3122<0>3782<0>2001<0>3809<0>3793<0>2410<0>3791<0>3437<0>3976<0>3373<0>2070<0>1715<0>2541<0>1518<0>1388<0>932<0>221<0>513<0>1773<0>3894<0>2543<0>270... |
We are awfully glad to see him and the others from Bravo Company. | <0>3898<0>1500<0>974<0>1484<0>3782<0>562<0>3096<0>361<0>484<0>1500<0>2525<0>1324<0>2060<0>3002<0>3585<0>3585<0>895<0>304<0>3923<0>3528<0>1579<0>2301<0>4084<0>1463<0>3894<0>3585<0>3373<0>3943<0>512<0>151<0>1449<0>1518<0>492<0>1518<0>2989<0>327<0>327<0>2548<0>3404<0>229<0>1338<0>1491<0>4048<0>2068<0>2068<0>2068<0>2068<0>... |
Well, got in there and told everyone how you did a good job. Didn't get all negative. | <0>3184<0>3184<0>366<0>3782<0>313<0>3447<0>83<0>1587<0>1518<0>3373<0>1007<0>83<0>2787<0>2152<0>679<0>3020<0>475<0>3020<0>3713<0>2619<0>3122<0>1649<0>1649<0>1108<0>3466<0>2612<0>3003<0>2492<0>1989<0>1989<0>3762<0>1989<0>1989<0>4066<0>1108<0>1108<0>493<0>3096<0>1076<0>1730<0>2485<0>1850<0>259<0>3592<0>3378<0>2060<0>2703<... |
Although he's actually, and he talks about it, and I think, I think I'm gonna cover it, but he talks about what he was actually thinking was like, uh, this is gonna be really problematic. In his mind, he was thinking, this is bad. Really bad. But he didn't show that. He showed, hey, we're good. Bring it. | <0>327<0>1526<0>2799<0>3373<0>3556<0>1773<0>3612<0>2715<0>3535<0>3067<0>368<0>3585<0>2462<0>1902<0>3972<0>1978<0>1858<0>366<0>3617<0>3617<0>3447<0>3447<0>3143<0>2648<0>580<0>403<0>3585<0>2578<0>2989<0>3894<0>1675<0>1777<0>974<0>3840<0>1675<0>2191<0>386<0>3176<0>729<0>2619<0>898<0>1007<0>2471<0>1007<0>368<0>368<0>2070<0... |
You're, you're good now, good job. Get ready to get it on. | <0>3526<0>3585<0>3809<0>361<0>1730<0>3447<0>1339<0>3637<0>3447<0>807<0>4009<0>3008<0>2703<0>2471<0>746<0>151<0>3713<0>2142<0>1392<0>1575<0>1649<0>287<0>1108<0>1108<0>305<0>1428<0>3762<0>3192<0>3693<0>465<0>1034<0>1532<0>2703<0>2471<0>1171<0>3008<0>2185<0>3585<0>1171<0>2471<0>1518<0>1575<0>1620<0>3981<0>2068<0>2068<0>20... |
The air support that they're getting back to the book. Chief Warrant Officer Hank Ainsworth had been overhead in the 2nd Battalion Command Chopper all day. And here's what he says. I was overhead when the fight started and orbited overhead till late that night. I was on a freak talking to Major Frank Henry. Later that... | <0>493<0>2506<0>1377<0>224<0>224<0>224<0>1377<0>745<0>2838<0>2703<0>746<0>1587<0>3180<0>3067<0>1338<0>2096<0>679<0>679<0>553<0>919<0>3184<0>2703<0>3377<0>2799<0>229<0>2365<0>1445<0>3530<0>3457<0>3861<0>2199<0>3184<0>2043<0>1569<0>1675<0>484<0>1500<0>212<0>716<0>3373<0>4079<0>304<0>304<0>1746<0>2294<0>1730<0>1171<0>1715... |
Henry said we have critically wounded down here. If we don't get them out, they're going to die. | <0>114<0>2703<0>1401<0>1730<0>3002<0>221<0>3067<0>2935<0>1862<0>1039<0>65<0>2935<0>2833<0>2070<0>3067<0>3828<0>3667<0>1539<0>3585<0>2703<0>3348<0>3008<0>221<0>2703<0>1007<0>546<0>1171<0>3274<0>3447<0>232<0>2471<0>3541<0>366<0>2864<0>915<0>915<0>2357<0>3067<0>3894<0>1388<0>493<0>191<0>3972<0>3972<0>3439<0>2864<0>3981<0>... |
I called Medevac and they came out, made a pass, drew fire, and refused to land. To land. | <0>3883<0>2703<0>1617<0>1518<0>259<0>3894<0>824<0>65<0>3373<0>2703<0>219<0>3894<0>1171<0>632<0>2060<0>1171<0>83<0>2471<0>974<0>3541<0>3585<0>3447<0>1338<0>1882<0>599<0>898<0>3850<0>367<0>563<0>2122<0>4066<0>1445<0>313<0>3067<0>2525<0>3782<0>898<0>3976<0>3923<0>366<0>1215<0>3704<0>151<0>3373<0>1944<0>2323<0>2161<0>1730<... |
Frank Henry knew exactly what to do about that situation. He told Hank Ainsworth to call the 229th Huey Slicks the old Reliables. | <0>3447<0>3447<0>3880<0>304<0>3509<0>1011<0>3020<0>679<0>368<0>824<0>2703<0>2221<0>3067<0>3373<0>898<0>191<0>3519<0>229<0>2471<0>366<0>3373<0>2775<0>2060<0>1719<0>527<0>3067<0>1171<0>3907<0>191<0>3288<0>2834<0>539<0>3176<0>2161<0>3791<0>1518<0>1518<0>1944<0>553<0>3194<0>3497<0>919<0>1171<0>318<0>2775<0>3067<0>3373<0>22... |
Ainsworth notified that two 29th pilots told them that Elsie Albany was hot, but that 2nd Battalion 7th Cavalry had critically wounded men who would die if they were not evacuated. | <0>2161<0>3176<0>3713<0>3287<0>3067<0>2748<0>3386<0>3447<0>1500<0>512<0>2594<0>366<0>2703<0>1171<0>3526<0>193<0>3894<0>149<0>2471<0>3008<0>2197<0>2703<0>3409<0>366<0>2471<0>1518<0>3809<0>2030<0>2172<0>80<0>1325<0>1198<0>259<0>1518<0>3791<0>3617<0>151<0>2525<0>1676<0>1123<0>374<0>3809<0>2550<0>2454<0>2506<0>2989<0>2707<... |
Says Ainsworth, the whole damn unit volunteered. I told them we only needed two ships. | <0>2406<0>2525<0>824<0>3850<0>553<0>1171<0>546<0>1526<0>3067<0>3373<0>2323<0>3621<0>2756<0>1272<0>2650<0>2594<0>1518<0>895<0>895<0>866<0>866<0>3135<0>2185<0>2525<0>553<0>3447<0>3585<0>3585<0>151<0>1171<0>1175<0>1022<0>304<0>1518<0>3067<0>2075<0>4062<0>3637<0>3176<0>3642<0>229<0>3522<0>2555<0>3762<0>1989<0>1989<0>1989<0... |
Despite Ainsworth's call for only two ships, four Huey Slicks lifted off from Camp Holloway Turkey farm at 9.50 PM for the 40 minute flight to Albany. Captain Bob Stinet was again in the lead, followed by Captain Bruce Thomas, Chief Warrant Officer Ken Fabba, and Warrant Officer Robert Mason. | <0>1376<0>2525<0>1211<0>2703<0>386<0>148<0>1171<0>546<0>3150<0>2753<0>2019<0>2762<0>3377<0>1518<0>2707<0>746<0>3782<0>130<0>1388<0>1318<0>3005<0>3894<0>3880<0>716<0>2197<0>2769<0>3732<0>311<0>3540<0>1944<0>1944<0>895<0>2707<0>3185<0>484<0>3447<0>2309<0>3067<0>2935<0>3376<0>3535<0>231<0>553<0>1152<0>2550<0>3447<0>2096<0... |
And here's what Stinet says. Normally the Huey pilots throttle back their engines as soon as they touch down to conserve fuel. Fuel. Not tonight. | <0>1429<0>632<0>623<0>3373<0>2152<0>1575<0>1862<0>3189<0>1849<0>105<0>3666<0>2769<0>770<0>2826<0>3008<0>3447<0>1196<0>212<0>2769<0>3447<0>1526<0>2826<0>1723<0>1828<0>3134<0>4009<0>2735<0>1351<0>3096<0>2378<0>368<0>3447<0>3655<0>1862<0>1902<0>3373<0>313<0>491<0>1854<0>2619<0>2619<0>2989<0>1575<0>1500<0>43<0>1759<0>915<0... |
Something told me not to do that, to keep the engine turning at a full flight RPMs. | <0>2435<0>2550<0>1569<0>3798<0>553<0>2388<0>374<0>1518<0>3894<0>1171<0>2152<0>898<0>2339<0>1526<0>191<0>3176<0>221<0>2703<0>2703<0>2936<0>852<0>977<0>1715<0>78<0>3096<0>2161<0>3585<0>553<0>3713<0>2710<0>3966<0>3373<0>2142<0>2935<0>2703<0>1850<0>1941<0>895<0>3435<0>3585<0>3927<0>1518<0>2525<0>3389<0>2826<0>1283<0>411<0>... |
They told us the wounded were ambulatory. When we got in there, they were all stretcher cases. My crew chief and gunner had to get out and raise the seats so we could get all the stretchers in. Then all hell broke loose. | <0>3526<0>3096<0>1206<0>2769<0>2865<0>1007<0>548<0>3447<0>229<0>3067<0>3067<0>3008<0>1238<0>974<0>360<0>553<0>746<0>3067<0>2799<0>334<0>1518<0>2989<0>1318<0>1108<0>3003<0>1989<0>3003<0>1108<0>2631<0>512<0>3020<0>289<0>1850<0>3782<0>2525<0>1730<0>3447<0>2703<0>1645<0>1325<0>3566<0>3198<0>3524<0>3020<0>512<0>3972<0>304<0... |
We went so fast that the crew chief and gunner got left behind on the ground and I didn't even know it. We just flat left them. We had the wounded inside. When we got back, we counted 30 holes in my machine. | <0>229<0>492<0>2748<0>3832<0>746<0>1007<0>2594<0>1500<0>3782<0>3235<0>484<0>2748<0>795<0>2348<0>3519<0>3457<0>561<0>593<0>324<0>2152<0>3782<0>2348<0>807<0>3972<0>866<0>3447<0>3910<0>1748<0>3585<0>366<0>2471<0>3894<0>3541<0>1238<0>3115<0>2471<0>484<0>1265<0>1815<0>2487<0>2831<0>83<0>3082<0>368<0>2152<0>386<0>1730<0>3447... |
That was enough for me and my Huey. The lift of three that went in after daw- after me took in medical stuff and brought back more wounded and my crew. Major Frank Henry was on the flashlight at the time. | <0>1108<0>3894<0>1882<0>2799<0>1526<0>190<0>1500<0>2594<0>2748<0>1238<0>623<0>3585<0>919<0>2864<0>561<0>3585<0>2378<0>3874<0>954<0>2029<0>465<0>3179<0>3003<0>3003<0>3237<0>1108<0>1108<0>1108<0>1108<0>869<0>1007<0>492<0>3447<0>746<0>2325<0>2799<0>779<0>2594<0>1974<0>2899<0>1748<0>1855<0>3166<0>3166<0>3067<0>3373<0>3585<... |
Joel Sogenis watched it with awe as the brave aviators risked everything for the wounded at Albany. I remember thinking they were the bravest pilots I had ever seen. They were sitting ducks and I fully expected to see them shot down at any moment. | <0>4066<0>1882<0>1518<0>3850<0>368<0>4062<0>3637<0>3585<0>623<0>2935<0>2978<0>3749<0>2572<0>2572<0>2572<0>2987<0>1108<0>1238<0>1518<0>2142<0>1449<0>3084<0>3067<0>229<0>561<0>2569<0>359<0>1765<0>1659<0>1518<0>3235<0>3235<0>3373<0>3067<0>2935<0>3585<0>2506<0>3585<0>553<0>3861<0>3585<0>3585<0>3892<0>2799<0>3447<0>2060<0>3... |
They were guided in by Frank Henry. You could see the tracers. The aircraft didn't hesitate a bit. They landed loaded. | <0>2840<0>151<0>1238<0>1214<0>954<0>1850<0>2703<0>3713<0>3008<0>3556<0>361<0>2703<0>1914<0>3927<0>3899<0>623<0>1730<0>3585<0>512<0>3146<0>3176<0>588<0>1549<0>3015<0>3561<0>3894<0>3020<0>2030<0>2978<0>3585<0>3020<0>1445<0>2442<0>553<0>553<0>1719<0>122<0>2032<0>855<0>2385<0>2744<0>2840<0>3585<0>368<0>3373<0>2921<0>2142<0... |
And we're gone in seconds. So again, you see what, that's the American fighting spirit. Oh, we got a hot LZ where we're probably gonna get shot down, but we've got wounded Americans on the ground. We're going to get them. Everyone in the unit volunteers. We only need two aircraft. Guess what? We're bringing four. | <0>3762<0>1108<0>4048<0>587<0>3184<0>1518<0>1117<0>2799<0>2989<0>2989<0>3373<0>645<0>2741<0>2550<0>2703<0>3639<0>324<0>135<0>509<0>2105<0>1538<0>2640<0>3694<0>1538<0>296<0>3447<0>1328<0>3373<0>3821<0>3447<0>1022<0>1361<0>1414<0>3762<0>465<0>725<0>3585<0>553<0>368<0>2935<0>1175<0>1732<0>1834<0>3435<0>1500<0>2675<0>3898<... |
Back to the book. After midnight, several shots rang out from inside the perimeter. A trooper 20 yards behind Rescorla. | <0>3373<0>3447<0>1562<0>1526<0>1579<0>2799<0>1777<0>2703<0>2748<0>3373<0>221<0>1773<0>2217<0>3447<0>3850<0>2769<0>2142<0>304<0>3585<0>368<0>1500<0>1007<0>1710<0>2001<0>3447<0>3447<0>1518<0>2594<0>1500<0>3067<0>1858<0>2550<0>3373<0>3373<0>1238<0>1804<0>2799<0>3541<0>3541<0>1675<0>2213<0>2683<0>366<0>3055<0>593<0>406<0>3... |
Inside the perimeter had rattled off a panicky three rounds. Rescorla walked back and cussed out the group in the middle of the perimeter. If I hear one more round out of you, we will turn our weapons around and open up. No one fires from inside the perimeter. If you want to fire out to the perimeter, if you want to f... | <0>1108<0>1071<0>4048<0>3096<0>1730<0>2525<0>3782<0>2070<0>3373<0>2799<0>366<0>3541<0>1500<0>304<0>2989<0>1518<0>3782<0>3972<0>3067<0>1518<0>1500<0>1500<0>1117<0>2703<0>3447<0>807<0>4086<0>3585<0>148<0>1701<0>1500<0>1858<0>546<0>2471<0>366<0>1518<0>3528<0>548<0>3378<0>1145<0>465<0>1989<0>1989<0>1989<0>4007<0>1500<0>368... |
Whispered communication took place all night between isolated elements outside the perimeter. If there was heroism, it was out there in the tiny groups of wounded and those who had bandaged and protected them through the night. | <0>1108<0>3898<0>1773<0>2055<0>915<0>1319<0>3509<0>2935<0>3020<0>1710<0>3892<0>3155<0>1768<0>809<0>3359<0>1224<0>1500<0>1710<0>3150<0>1518<0>2348<0>2703<0>3342<0>2152<0>807<0>1171<0>3972<0>2703<0>3002<0>3135<0>2703<0>151<0>151<0>3373<0>915<0>3373<0>3150<0>366<0>2339<0>3373<0>3373<0>3067<0>3180<0>3898<0>3541<0>2989<0>32... |
They were just like hunting buddies, said Rascorla. Surviving by instinct, looking out for each other. | <0>1783<0>2935<0>1007<0>3593<0>1715<0>3447<0>807<0>3972<0>327<0>3373<0>4062<0>3874<0>3184<0>3373<0>386<0>369<0>102<0>1467<0>1266<0>2352<0>2030<0>3373<0>3435<0>2703<0>2705<0>545<0>2989<0>819<0>3299<0>390<0>1108<0>3003<0>1108<0>3466<0>2588<0>3373<0>2471<0>2703<0>3020<0>3894<0>1171<0>2703<0>553<0>3176<0>212<0>1710<0>221<0... |
Lieutenant Larry Gwynn of Alpha Company recalls that late that night, one of Alpha's missing men crawled into the American perimeter. | <0>1117<0>1211<0>3447<0>3447<0>1526<0>553<0>3373<0>2152<0>3067<0>3447<0>2703<0>3447<0>1500<0>3447<0>3150<0>2517<0>1265<0>3894<0>3642<0>2068<0>1518<0>1518<0>492<0>3373<0>866<0>1526<0>3585<0>1377<0>3585<0>2703<0>3134<0>3541<0>3447<0>553<0>3986<0>1272<0>1649<0>527<0>2142<0>1007<0>1500<0>1518<0>1007<0>2769<0>1730<0>2525<0>... |
The bullet exited through the back of his throat, knocked him out and they left him for dead. | <0>1748<0>3373<0>1388<0>3067<0>3373<0>348<0>405<0>967<0>3539<0>491<0>1710<0>3667<0>1318<0>703<0>2070<0>3067<0>345<0>3782<0>3782<0>480<0>3067<0>3447<0>770<0>915<0>2471<0>3067<0>2300<0>1478<0>2131<0>2840<0>3008<0>1569<0>43<0>2934<0>2471<0>366<0>678<0>2697<0>151<0>3447<0>2070<0>3373<0>2703<0>1224<0>221<0>2070<0>1265<0>215... |
He survived and when he woke up that night, he started crawling to us. | <0>3320<0>1076<0>1273<0>2883<0>3067<0>2619<0>83<0>3976<0>807<0>1386<0>3769<0>3652<0>807<0>3894<0>3020<0>3297<0>1238<0>512<0>1117<0>1265<0>2044<0>3373<0>3373<0>2824<0>3373<0>2703<0>2103<0>2567<0>2719<0>2398<0>2751<0>3457<0>397<0>2471<0>2471<0>3939<0>2010<0>1721<0>1518<0>678<0>1518<0>1022<0>3598<0>2525<0>3027<0>327<0>334... |
The next day was a real nightmare as we went out to find our dead and missing. | <0>1858<0>3155<0>3447<0>2638<0>751<0>2598<0>967<0>3585<0>3067<0>2070<0>3809<0>3067<0>1171<0>3373<0>1328<0>3447<0>361<0>3144<0>2716<0>1113<0>2004<0>1989<0>1989<0>1989<0>1989<0>3003<0>3003<0>3003<0>3003<0>3003<0>515<0>3782<0>2769<0>3894<0>229<0>2894<0>2471<0>818<0>1710<0>2323<0>1981<0>484<0>3447<0>1318<0>3836<0>2119<0>40... |
I think each of us cracked up a little bit that day as the true picture of the action began to unfold. | <0>19<0>2703<0>746<0>3585<0>3438<0>3585<0>658<0>3447<0>1500<0>3264<0>3545<0>2471<0>3782<0>3434<0>3447<0>3541<0>1518<0>895<0>561<0>1238<0>2185<0>2060<0>2492<0>3447<0>1463<0>2352<0>1171<0>3585<0>3176<0>3789<0>499<0>3363<0>2070<0>2060<0>3005<0>3214<0>3373<0>3784<0>2703<0>900<0>2443<0>915<0>679<0>3585<0>110<0>1850<0>2471<0... |
Then it came across the radio. Bravo Company had found one other survivor from our second platoon. | <0>2840<0>3020<0>1730<0>171<0>2060<0>553<0>2471<0>1911<0>3341<0>3447<0>2459<0>3067<0>3892<0>1730<0>2161<0>3447<0>1981<0>1767<0>471<0>3883<0>3150<0>1850<0>1500<0>3067<0>2898<0>2471<0>1620<0>3008<0>1171<0>3143<0>1569<0>1518<0>915<0>3839<0>2894<0>1614<0>405<0>1989<0>3003<0>1989<0>1989<0>1748<0>1579<0>546<0>3185<0>1500<0>5... |
He had been badly wounded in the legs and had propped himself up against a tree. He had been burned by napalm waiting in the night and some North Vietnamese had put a pistol to his eye and pulled the trigger. | <0>1108<0>213<0>3585<0>2103<0>3020<0>1485<0>2703<0>3447<0>1388<0>1858<0>229<0>2070<0>3894<0>338<0>3894<0>229<0>3373<0>3447<0>3008<0>2525<0>3771<0>1914<0>3257<0>1471<0>1197<0>151<0>638<0>4018<0>3828<0>2619<0>1518<0>2753<0>151<0>2775<0>3782<0>304<0>327<0>2181<0>3240<0>2799<0>919<0>3020<0>2826<0>2710<0>2328<0>616<0>3373<0... |
Shot him in the eye, blinded him, but he was still alive. | <0>1993<0>1273<0>2471<0>1518<0>3146<0>1171<0>1171<0>527<0>2471<0>2471<0>2471<0>1171<0>936<0>852<0>3946<0>1117<0>406<0>3898<0>1500<0>1730<0>3176<0>3176<0>950<0>1730<0>679<0>2629<0>2476<0>1272<0>465<0>3067<0>746<0>3096<0>1579<0>1710<0>855<0>3373<0>1518<0>406<0>2471<0>3972<0>1525<0>561<0>580<0>2251<0>2612<0>3487<0>3981<0>... |
I saw him being brought in by a stretcher, smoking a cigarette, all fucked up. So at this point, things had backed off a little bit. They'd backed off and | <0>390<0>2471<0>2070<0>1683<0>3972<0>2619<0>2703<0>361<0>3342<0>3585<0>3585<0>361<0>484<0>2989<0>3972<0>3667<0>819<0>3972<0>3447<0>3278<0>2777<0>2703<0>190<0>716<0>366<0>1016<0>955<0>1108<0>349<0>2192<0>368<0>512<0>1981<0>587<0>3008<0>1715<0>1710<0>553<0>3541<0>1882<0>1208<0>1428<0>3658<0>1267<0>2697<0>1488<0>2062<0>86... |
They actually did the mad minute, which is something that Hackworth talks about. And it's something that they did in the first part of this book, which is, hey, everyone in the perimeter is just going to shoot a bunch of rounds. | <0>2398<0>2703<0>1794<0>2716<0>1715<0>3020<0>1318<0>3176<0>3096<0>1171<0>3320<0>1769<0>1108<0>1769<0>1442<0>2799<0>3894<0>3447<0>3373<0>3184<0>151<0>3020<0>954<0>368<0>1710<0>3850<0>484<0>1388<0>915<0>3373<0>353<0>705<0>1850<0>3877<0>1712<0>3923<0>2826<0>327<0>2471<0>1846<0>1587<0>3180<0>1518<0>974<0>2548<0>1108<0>869<... |
6.30 in the morning, boom, everyone fire a full loadout or a full magazine or a couple magazines at likely targets. | <0>212<0>2525<0>2375<0>199<0>3373<0>3020<0>3020<0>3894<0>3067<0>3617<0>3642<0>2185<0>3067<0>3134<0>1636<0>1835<0>561<0>492<0>2258<0>3927<0>3972<0>2471<0>3923<0>3447<0>3927<0>1518<0>1422<0>1526<0>3943<0>3894<0>1882<0>2054<0>390<0>3289<0>1974<0>2254<0>1974<0>1649<0>2365<0>3972<0>3748<0>1007<0>895<0>2152<0>3447<0>304<0>62... |
And they did that and that seemed to calm things down. They kind of did that once things had already calmed down a little bit. And... | <0>718<0>1710<0>553<0>151<0>3373<0>207<0>955<0>955<0>1376<0>648<0>151<0>698<0>3176<0>3342<0>3096<0>1076<0>1076<0>2703<0>3447<0>1085<0>1171<0>3447<0>1862<0>2639<0>885<0>212<0>212<0>1710<0>2703<0>3373<0>2060<0>1026<0>1500<0>288<0>1500<0>1442<0>3447<0>3585<0>3447<0>1500<0>3447<0>386<0>3096<0>746<0>1213<0>816<0>3096<0>3184... |
It was, it was, it indicated that maybe things were calming down a little. Here's another thing, back to the book, the NVA came into the ambush area that night to recover their dead and wounded. When they found any of our guys alive, they would beat them to death, bayonet them or machete them to avoid shooting and dra... | <0>1966<0>2029<0>492<0>3067<0>1858<0>3850<0>2087<0>2485<0>492<0>2070<0>1715<0>3792<0>3708<0>1377<0>709<0>3405<0>3708<0>3781<0>368<0>368<0>3155<0>151<0>3002<0>1171<0>3667<0>2703<0>3509<0>3892<0>3096<0>967<0>623<0>3067<0>1304<0>1569<0>2471<0>3894<0>2703<0>1500<0>3373<0>3617<0>553<0>3447<0>2070<0>151<0>2799<0>3373<0>746<0... |
That was during the night. They did that. Like I said, they did the mad minute. Here's what, here's what Lieutenant Rescorla said about the mad minute. He said, this decision was regrettable. Rifle fire shattered the silence and the perimeter was ringed with reckless firing. | <0>345<0>2703<0>492<0>1526<0>1318<0>3447<0>151<0>1022<0>1485<0>2799<0>3861<0>2840<0>1335<0>1428<0>1062<0>465<0>4066<0>3003<0>3762<0>1108<0>1950<0>3585<0>1318<0>493<0>3176<0>493<0>2525<0>2703<0>2054<0>1500<0>2716<0>2525<0>3447<0>2185<0>1022<0>1485<0>3176<0>2152<0>3134<0>561<0>3447<0>3184<0>3874<0>3008<0>919<0>807<0>1526... |
Little thought had been given to that the remainder of our survivors were sprawled among the trees and anthills within 500 yards. The effective range of our M16s. What the fuck is happening? Are you shooting at us? The frantic radio calls started coming in. | <0>1108<0>895<0>313<0>1518<0>1007<0>2102<0>1518<0>2619<0>3020<0>221<0>3642<0>493<0>3585<0>3067<0>1318<0>1710<0>1858<0>2840<0>493<0>2703<0>679<0>1007<0>492<0>2748<0>3509<0>1710<0>3585<0>1328<0>1882<0>1484<0>2619<0>1773<0>1685<0>492<0>678<0>2703<0>327<0>1773<0>3287<0>2471<0>3922<0>2144<0>966<0>1518<0>2707<0>1659<0>3067<0... |
How many troops were killed or injured by our wake-up call will never be known. | <0>1338<0>3972<0>151<0>658<0>1273<0>1526<0>1026<0>1388<0>2669<0>1449<0>1500<0>2799<0>3373<0>3348<0>3585<0>3176<0>3556<0>915<0>1238<0>3972<0>83<0>3972<0>3067<0>553<0>19<0>1862<0>1331<0>1819<0>1518<0>1518<0>3946<0>2211<0>1649<0>492<0>386<0>3447<0>1500<0>229<0>3176<0>587<0>1500<0>3898<0>324<0>543<0>3981<0>2068<0>2068<0>39... |
Thank God for the trees, the ant hills, and the uneven terrain. | <0>2096<0>3447<0>3642<0>1434<0>1862<0>1882<0>3359<0>746<0>3067<0>1993<0>3055<0>1171<0>895<0>3585<0>212<0>1724<0>436<0>1748<0>1209<0>3585<0>553<0>2703<0>3874<0>2703<0>3373<0>1518<0>3235<0>3665<0>1873<0>1050<0>1200<0>151<0>553<0>1500<0>2799<0>3585<0>3176<0>151<0>493<0>3821<0>1518<0>512<0>1730<0>1318<0>493<0>602<0>2068<0>... |
Captain Dudley Tadimi, 3rd Brigade Fire Support Coordinator, remembers flying out to Albany at first light the next morning. Tim Brown, myself, Mickey Parrish, took a while to get through the smoke hanging over the whole area. | <0>770<0>2703<0>366<0>1023<0>3176<0>3096<0>2100<0>2433<0>493<0>1526<0>548<0>1277<0>548<0>3096<0>2462<0>237<0>3393<0>543<0>1769<0>2060<0>2029<0>2378<0>3585<0>3585<0>3874<0>3585<0>493<0>1108<0>1944<0>3453<0>2323<0>1500<0>492<0>1277<0>2894<0>3837<0>3668<0>386<0>2594<0>3972<0>1500<0>2070<0>2769<0>3180<0>1518<0>1819<0>998<0... |
Not much had really taken place in terms of policing the area. The image is still vivid in my mind is the carnage. Folks were still sitting around in the daze. They hadn't done much, hadn't even taken ponchos and covered up these bodies. | <0>1748<0>1277<0>2799<0>1500<0>2568<0>2799<0>3155<0>2935<0>229<0>1500<0>2769<0>919<0>3096<0>1710<0>3143<0>1575<0>1007<0>3096<0>1710<0>1768<0>809<0>366<0>3143<0>2799<0>2594<0>3067<0>369<0>2462<0>895<0>3561<0>2152<0>382<0>1800<0>382<0>3797<0>705<0>3356<0>1481<0>3585<0>3046<0>1171<0>2152<0>3561<0>368<0>2060<0>2385<0>3331<... |
Sitting there, feeling sorry for themselves. Colonel Brown was very pissed off. | <0>2116<0>2525<0>1171<0>1171<0>221<0>3447<0>2703<0>1862<0>4017<0>3511<0>365<0>561<0>3447<0>1007<0>553<0>3850<0>2471<0>2703<0>746<0>1200<0>3894<0>3378<0>2769<0>1500<0>2989<0>1200<0>2769<0>1890<0>3772<0>2487<0>1603<0>2748<0>2748<0>1518<0>229<0>2748<0>1500<0>2471<0>3373<0>2769<0>561<0>2142<0>151<0>1567<0>1710<0>2703<0>385... |
Even if you do get caught in a bad situation, you have to do something to recover. It was young kids who paid the price. | <0>3681<0>3874<0>151<0>151<0>2187<0>361<0>3008<0>561<0>679<0>3668<0>3063<0>2221<0>2865<0>1790<0>512<0>3180<0>1850<0>313<0>2826<0>1526<0>658<0>3067<0>1401<0>1730<0>3155<0>221<0>2936<0>3680<0>3657<0>3874<0>3447<0>83<0>1777<0>2060<0>3008<0>368<0>3850<0>83<0>3910<0>587<0>1685<0>3067<0>2471<0>1777<0>3782<0>3972<0>1738<0>204... |
In later years, I used to stress that to my young battery commanders. It isn't us who die in combat, it's those young kids who die. | <0>133<0>3585<0>1073<0>3447<0>2935<0>3447<0>3585<0>3585<0>2935<0>3821<0>1715<0>307<0>1121<0>3902<0>1338<0>2703<0>553<0>1730<0>368<0>368<0>409<0>3447<0>3447<0>2369<0>3447<0>2516<0>1211<0>3894<0>2799<0>3585<0>1500<0>3894<0>229<0>807<0>1850<0>2645<0>512<0>368<0>3822<0>3894<0>553<0>151<0>587<0>2703<0>3637<0>2385<0>906<0>35... |
Those kids, we are responsible for training and leading. It's our job to get the job done and get those kids home safe. | <0>1376<0>2799<0>1858<0>326<0>770<0>967<0>1171<0>2769<0>3447<0>223<0>1283<0>492<0>368<0>3373<0>1773<0>3002<0>1883<0>1518<0>1007<0>2769<0>895<0>746<0>3373<0>2002<0>3055<0>3447<0>746<0>2152<0>1526<0>3894<0>2643<0>368<0>3713<0>1526<0>151<0>1730<0>3096<0>1491<0>631<0>3680<0>3561<0>2525<0>3101<0>3962<0>259<0>2799<0>1579<0>7... |
Again, now this, the battle turned and, and really the Vietnamese left. | <0>3237<0>1500<0>679<0>1710<0>2826<0>1318<0>3447<0>2799<0>1526<0>2525<0>751<0>243<0>593<0>2398<0>1688<0>3079<0>3153<0>1579<0>1579<0>3447<0>3447<0>1518<0>4029<0>3720<0>1675<0>2799<0>2258<0>1318<0>527<0>2187<0>3307<0>1376<0>3762<0>2555<0>3681<0>148<0>3668<0>1095<0>3307<0>3307<0>3003<0>1989<0>3003<0>3003<0>1989<0>1172<0>1... |
Here's another image of the cleanup. Back to the book specialist for John Wallinus of Bravo company, second battalion, seventh cavalry, mortar platoon, and most of the rest of Diderik's men were involved in this macabre depressing duty. It was incredible carnage. | <0>3681<0>3585<0>151<0>1710<0>648<0>1989<0>3003<0>3003<0>133<0>1748<0>2339<0>1579<0>144<0>492<0>1882<0>1185<0>1797<0>3661<0>3929<0>1208<0>2799<0>196<0>2594<0>1218<0>1500<0>1532<0>2027<0>1442<0>1748<0>3466<0>2492<0>1376<0>1500<0>3447<0>1567<0>3378<0>1579<0>3180<0>327<0>3832<0>2096<0>3447<0>2773<0>2769<0>1500<0>2152<0>27... |
We went into areas where lots of artillery had come in during the night and we saw our guys had been blown up in the trees. | <0>1120<0>3067<0>229<0>3020<0>2152<0>553<0>110<0>3373<0>3373<0>1171<0>1710<0>3067<0>1518<0>2619<0>3150<0>2769<0>1500<0>3691<0>3264<0>2471<0>2471<0>3020<0>1171<0>2492<0>898<0>2471<0>3373<0>1485<0>3373<0>304<0>221<0>3894<0>3373<0>2703<0>3585<0>2958<0>1478<0>2254<0>3473<0>3067<0>386<0>368<0>3447<0>2471<0>2471<0>1265<0>364... |
The bodies were already decomposed and it only happened the night before. We were in shock. | <0>4058<0>1579<0>492<0>1518<0>313<0>368<0>3067<0>1518<0>366<0>1738<0>3020<0>2875<0>963<0>3096<0>2353<0>3348<0>2079<0>484<0>492<0>1526<0>3966<0>1198<0>99<0>2194<0>1171<0>3939<0>2894<0>3067<0>368<0>3176<0>3777<0>1220<0>83<0>1265<0>3180<0>3134<0>3134<0>3134<0>3447<0>3003<0>2492<0>1730<0>1830<0>1526<0>3435<0>2365<0>3434<0>... |
It was the first, last, and only time I ever saw anything like it and I pray never again. | <0>3068<0>3972<0>229<0>2769<0>2799<0>3861<0>2769<0>327<0>484<0>368<0>3155<0>2705<0>3881<0>105<0>105<0>105<0>1311<0>1649<0>1422<0>512<0>3447<0>3617<0>3447<0>3850<0>2030<0>1198<0>2706<0>2703<0>2894<0>527<0>3519<0>3020<0>3966<0>366<0>2471<0>3617<0>967<0>967<0>1518<0>3373<0>1715<0>1007<0>1819<0>1444<0>3585<0>3585<0>3585<0>... |
We started hauling in the whole bodies first, then we brought in the pieces and parts. | <0>229<0>3155<0>3264<0>2471<0>2142<0>1214<0>678<0>1392<0>1518<0>3447<0>3020<0>3096<0>3134<0>1518<0>304<0>1518<0>1422<0>1238<0>3972<0>1500<0>2060<0>2475<0>1449<0>1007<0>2799<0>2799<0>368<0>397<0>2424<0>2304<0>4084<0>3526<0>3447<0>3894<0>3894<0>3180<0>2471<0>2471<0>151<0>3457<0>2187<0>1872<0>1124<0>3180<0>1579<0>1452<0>8... |
The pilot began preparing to take off. One of our officers pointed M16 at the pilot and told him to keep the bird on the ground. We weren't through. | <0>196<0>3774<0>366<0>1850<0>3373<0>3299<0>3973<0>3176<0>2875<0>3096<0>553<0>151<0>361<0>1265<0>1463<0>3146<0>221<0>3008<0>855<0>2826<0>1306<0>490<0>2471<0>2471<0>3927<0>425<0>3330<0>359<0>3146<0>366<0>327<0>259<0>2865<0>1518<0>2703<0>368<0>2934<0>3155<0>1795<0>2471<0>2935<0>2542<0>3008<0>151<0>1730<0>1710<0>3472<0>343... |
When the ramp finally closed, blood poured through the hinges. | <0>1406<0>151<0>512<0>1518<0>3447<0>3447<0>611<0>1944<0>1569<0>4009<0>3020<0>648<0>288<0>2799<0>3791<0>1858<0>2769<0>2705<0>2015<0>732<0>1272<0>1054<0>732<0>2987<0>196<0>229<0>3135<0>1526<0>144<0>3943<0>543<0>1748<0>895<0>3435<0>1500<0>679<0>3166<0>3447<0>3974<0>3067<0>151<0>3096<0>3585<0>1485<0>1655<0>2432<0>3966<0>29... |
I felt sorry for the poor bastards who would have to unload this chopper back at Holloway. | <0>1418<0>1882<0>368<0>366<0>545<0>2030<0>3791<0>3972<0>2703<0>3020<0>593<0>3067<0>1738<0>2931<0>3435<0>2989<0>1117<0>2152<0>1850<0>3782<0>312<0>2152<0>2129<0>2543<0>229<0>3439<0>1850<0>1862<0>2427<0>2054<0>327<0>2185<0>1579<0>492<0>1579<0>2075<0>1715<0>1471<0>1445<0>2471<0>1518<0>1883<0>484<0>425<0>852<0>2607<0>465<0>... |
The nightmares born of this battle have never faded. | <0>2185<0>3592<0>1491<0>3447<0>3585<0>324<0>807<0>2703<0>2471<0>3966<0>2705<0>732<0>1124<0>614<0>229<0>2989<0>3493<0>2619<0>3404<0>969<0>998<0>2054<0>3943<0>1022<0>2185<0>696<0>3850<0>1467<0>1579<0>1190<0>2748<0>1214<0>2989<0>2955<0>1267<0>1974<0>3991<0>4077<0>2104<0>3228<0>738<0>1950<0>3363<0>2799<0>3378<0>1532<0>1472... |
Reported that the two seven alpha and Bravo companies and the one five battalion suffered a hundred and fifty one men killed in action a hundred and twenty one wounded and four missing in action | <0>327<0>2864<0>1710<0>1518<0>83<0>1238<0>361<0>3447<0>1463<0>2875<0>3874<0>1919<0>2144<0>1730<0>2563<0>3850<0>2703<0>2799<0>3894<0>77<0>1108<0>1989<0>1989<0>3762<0>1989<0>2130<0>3447<0>259<0>1007<0>1518<0>1277<0>1518<0>2989<0>1738<0>1518<0>3404<0>3348<0>2799<0>546<0>1171<0>2563<0>2826<0>858<0>497<0>497<0>3296<0>3296<0... |
Who was at that time had become the third brigade commander went back to LZ Albany and recovered the bodies of all four members of two seven who were. | <0>3164<0>492<0>3305<0>2799<0>1858<0>2769<0>73<0>3310<0>1950<0>2703<0>2799<0>374<0>3373<0>2232<0>2769<0>366<0>3067<0>151<0>2498<0>919<0>538<0>1265<0>3528<0>3096<0>561<0>1007<0>915<0>229<0>3894<0>3342<0>3585<0>1730<0>1318<0>811<0>3447<0>819<0>746<0>151<0>3894<0>366<0>1331<0>1634<0>1274<0>3434<0>1950<0>1422<0>151<0>3114<... |
Brought back on a Hilo and began the long journey home to America. | <0>1117<0>2471<0>1575<0>3373<0>2703<0>1883<0>2471<0>561<0>3561<0>3067<0>2799<0>492<0>3894<0>2099<0>1108<0>1324<0>648<0>1209<0>3585<0>151<0>2799<0>3134<0>2648<0>2566<0>493<0>3874<0>1209<0>2161<0>1209<0>3681<0>3762<0>3003<0>3003<0>3003<0>3003<0>3003<0>3003<0>1989<0>3003<0>3003<0>3003<0>3003<0>3003<0>3003<0>1989<0>3003<0>... |
That came from this battle and I'll talk about a little bit more in the book, but the body count came back and the body count came back basically as 10 to 1 or maybe 12 to 1. So for every 10 or 12 North Vietnamese soldier that was dead, there was only one American killed. And our generals liked that ratio. They though... | <0>1748<0>2075<0>2174<0>3015<0>3585<0>1171<0>1238<0>3840<0>1095<0>1526<0>3438<0>1500<0>1500<0>2989<0>327<0>2460<0>1873<0>1849<0>1252<0>4092<0>4092<0>3526<0>561<0>512<0>3972<0>3910<0>1518<0>1981<0>1238<0>3972<0>327<0>3972<0>1238<0>611<0>648<0>2989<0>3972<0>3299<0>1635<0>1022<0>1277<0>2492<0>1882<0>1819<0>2575<0>327<0>27... |
One of the comments that comes in in the book as they go back and interview general G app, who's the, the senior general of the North Vietnamese army. He's got a book actually that we're going to do on the podcast at some point. | <0>1834<0>1579<0>2070<0>2799<0>1526<0>1579<0>1071<0>1344<0>3791<0>3972<0>915<0>3373<0>3592<0>2550<0>561<0>551<0>3348<0>3373<0>1526<0>3894<0>3134<0>2657<0>3176<0>1532<0>2185<0>492<0>2799<0>3434<0>3748<0>789<0>977<0>1071<0>757<0>3447<0>2710<0>386<0>3143<0>1238<0>229<0>2703<0>1862<0>2152<0>3134<0>2812<0>373<0>2155<0>1377<... |
The strategy of the people's war means we're gonna, we're gonna suffer some casualties and we're okay with that. | <0>648<0>871<0>1108<0>4058<0>426<0>3155<0>553<0>2703<0>1485<0>3457<0>361<0>1579<0>2875<0>3874<0>1575<0>3966<0>1422<0>2989<0>2946<0>2864<0>1318<0>2185<0>4062<0>1575<0>3894<0>512<0>3894<0>196<0>1120<0>2989<0>512<0>151<0>2775<0>1518<0>3732<0>3155<0>3180<0>1171<0>3617<0>368<0>3637<0>221<0>1422<0>2989<0>2864<0>1117<0>221<0>... |
So our strategy of saying, well, we'll get them into a war of attrition. They're okay with it. They don't care. | <0>4066<0>3850<0>2748<0>3373<0>2548<0>2548<0>1200<0>898<0>2525<0>1445<0>259<0>2703<0>3667<0>3637<0>3176<0>3585<0>2548<0>2754<0>2336<0>3943<0>1022<0>2525<0>22<0>553<0>553<0>1318<0>2498<0>2639<0>1120<0>3898<0>2799<0>3435<0>492<0>3840<0>3447<0>809<0>3541<0>1579<0>1517<0>3898<0>3435<0>2471<0>1500<0>593<0>838<0>3556<0>3204<... |
Human life has less human, uh, human life has less value for them. | <0>305<0>3457<0>3447<0>3667<0>3894<0>2840<0>2170<0>3946<0>1422<0>3447<0>553<0>1977<0>2142<0>2055<0>3447<0>2070<0>672<0>3585<0>151<0>3134<0>196<0>1376<0>2054<0>512<0>3541<0>1738<0>998<0>3079<0>1730<0>3096<0>3373<0>492<0>3447<0>553<0>4009<0>2030<0>3373<0>2060<0>3037<0>2703<0>3373<0>3176<0>2497<0>580<0>1277<0>1442<0>614<0... |
You know, we talked about that last time. They're losing guys on the, from Malaria on the trail. You're gonna lose five, six guys. They don't care. They've got a war to win. | <0>9<0>368<0>3067<0>3850<0>2619<0>3377<0>1500<0>2799<0>1518<0>4009<0>144<0>3541<0>3373<0>3067<0>1007<0>2060<0>1710<0>2471<0>2471<0>2070<0>3791<0>2471<0>915<0>3373<0>1649<0>1632<0>3972<0>229<0>1518<0>3447<0>2579<0>3447<0>3972<0>1463<0>1445<0>3373<0>2197<0>2955<0>1346<0>2029<0>1007<0>1214<0>1007<0>1858<0>770<0>3782<0>270... |
So talking about some of the other sort of strategic things or strategic implications from this. | <0>1804<0>3910<0>2769<0>83<0>3972<0>2697<0>2569<0>1007<0>1819<0>1902<0>151<0>3972<0>3972<0>1196<0>1007<0>492<0>3585<0>2703<0>561<0>3348<0>2511<0>290<0>1989<0>3003<0>1989<0>1108<0>1199<0>770<0>2769<0>1518<0>3348<0>1715<0>1133<0>1773<0>2183<0>3457<0>3585<0>3713<0>553<0>1449<0>2525<0>3447<0>623<0>2070<0>3850<0>589<0>2239<... |
1967, so this is a couple years later, back to the book, in mid-December, President Johnson convened a White House meeting of his top advisors. Will Bundy says that McNamara's option number one, get the hell out of Vietnam now, while the getting is good, was never seriously considered, nor was it pressed by McNamara. | <0>3007<0>374<0>967<0>1415<0>1022<0>3447<0>3175<0>2060<0>895<0>3176<0>2192<0>2823<0>2889<0>2378<0>3457<0>2011<0>3821<0>3828<0>1517<0>144<0>3809<0>3535<0>3904<0>1618<0>1630<0>1518<0>1883<0>3067<0>3585<0>746<0>1715<0>666<0>3480<0>553<0>2142<0>229<0>366<0>2748<0>2236<0>1526<0>492<0>2799<0>1501<0>1318<0>2875<0>3821<0>3320<... |
Option number two, the huge buildup of American combat and support troops was readily approved by all including McNamara. | <0>2898<0>1500<0>746<0>672<0>587<0>512<0>3541<0>2866<0>1427<0>2935<0>2410<0>3809<0>466<0>2254<0>3415<0>2802<0>3874<0>698<0>3020<0>3907<0>4062<0>1500<0>1007<0>1738<0>2799<0>229<0>1214<0>3447<0>3373<0>1352<0>3968<0>827<0>366<0>1518<0>1575<0>2703<0>3348<0>135<0>1710<0>2669<0>895<0>2471<0>2663<0>2773<0>3809<0>2152<0>3751<0... |
McNamara did push for a bombing pause to prepare US opinion, public opinion for the coming escalation. | <0>3184<0>2748<0>1759<0>819<0>3067<0>2471<0>1485<0>1710<0>493<0>2921<0>1500<0>2144<0>2221<0>3541<0>196<0>2989<0>3348<0>1214<0>361<0>1117<0>3972<0>3972<0>1152<0>9<0>1575<0>1710<0>3923<0>1518<0>480<0>957<0>3772<0>1489<0>3526<0>2433<0>1579<0>83<0>2826<0>1710<0>1919<0>1171<0>3585<0>2161<0>3585<0>2029<0>2498<0>1108<0>2799<0... |
Again, I'm sure at some point in this podcast we will dive deep into the political | <0>651<0>313<0>151<0>3821<0>2471<0>3067<0>3305<0>1834<0>3898<0>1596<0>3348<0>3107<0>3972<0>512<0>1273<0>2579<0>3923<0>915<0>3264<0>1500<0>1620<0>1518<0>1214<0>1214<0>3373<0>1467<0>3972<0>3972<0>3642<0>2703<0>2703<0>1587<0>1526<0>1007<0>3898<0>648<0>3541<0>2703<0>361<0>3873<0>1532<0>3526<0>1463<0>1318<0>3552<0>151<0>329... |
Manipulation, the political decision making that happened during the Vietnam War, but this is, this is what they're talking about. It's interesting to hear McNamara even back in 1967 is saying, Hey, we got like a one in three, maybe one in two odds of winning. | <0>1376<0>2258<0>3373<0>1318<0>1463<0>4066<0>3874<0>3898<0>3447<0>3176<0>3641<0>658<0>1318<0>1318<0>3153<0>1989<0>1108<0>382<0>653<0>327<0>492<0>151<0>998<0>327<0>2550<0>2525<0>3535<0>3713<0>3176<0>3184<0>3585<0>3585<0>826<0>1238<0>2703<0>1944<0>3082<0>83<0>2450<0>1318<0>3445<0>151<0>3894<0>1730<0>658<0>2648<0>2989<0>3... |
That's not, that's not, that's not good odds. We don't like those odds. | <0>1693<0>2525<0>2889<0>3235<0>3002<0>1858<0>1500<0>1804<0>3164<0>3873<0>509<0>2799<0>1500<0>3174<0>915<0>3447<0>2769<0>3404<0>83<0>1649<0>3018<0>2700<0>3003<0>1748<0>3526<0>3447<0>2525<0>4009<0>2735<0>3809<0>562<0>3235<0>1517<0>948<0>1989<0>492<0>3447<0>3782<0>746<0>1594<0>2799<0>3235<0>2471<0>2142<0>3840<0>3551<0>119... |
Here's, here's Hal Moore talking again back to the book. In late June 1966, my turn was up as commander of the third brigade. When my replacement, a colonel straight out of the Pentagon showed up to take over, my brigade was in the field fighting near Dong Tre. | <0>2187<0>221<0>151<0>2769<0>3378<0>9<0>3762<0>3762<0>1108<0>1108<0>1034<0>2051<0>1428<0>1428<0>2589<0>3405<0>1944<0>3020<0>2525<0>3899<0>1518<0>492<0>3067<0>304<0>2705<0>1518<0>1518<0>3303<0>3874<0>1206<0>2070<0>1318<0>2471<0>219<0>3413<0>3373<0>1117<0>1579<0>3943<0>2335<0>1171<0>1073<0>1073<0>1769<0>3003<0>2525<0>358... |
It would have been criminal in those circumstances to relinquish my command to a man who's still pissing stateside water and I flatly refuse to do so. The change of command was delayed ten days until the fight was over. | <0>3681<0>1858<0>1238<0>561<0>492<0>3028<0>151<0>361<0>1908<0>1581<0>3828<0>275<0>2302<0>2989<0>1518<0>2922<0>2799<0>1007<0>1273<0>3373<0>2176<0>1214<0>3850<0>3447<0>2703<0>3850<0>1118<0>334<0>3067<0>3541<0>2471<0>2396<0>3888<0>3541<0>2799<0>679<0>593<0>492<0>3782<0>1759<0>2471<0>2703<0>2703<0>4062<0>1858<0>2799<0>954<... |
A month later, on August 8th, 1966, my replacement sent Alpha Company, 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry, back in the Hydrangea Valley by itself, and 25 men were killed in one terrible day. | <0>998<0>2299<0>3373<0>1007<0>1007<0>553<0>2142<0>366<0>705<0>4000<0>2987<0>2864<0>3122<0>3972<0>3972<0>368<0>509<0>3096<0>3176<0>2875<0>492<0>3585<0>2710<0>2185<0>3873<0>3373<0>4034<0>3585<0>212<0>2703<0>3160<0>2365<0>2471<0>3122<0>1883<0>151<0>3002<0>1526<0>1196<0>1710<0>2336<0>1245<0>2525<0>3373<0>3134<0>1108<0>1108... |
And again, this is where, this is where the people always talk about when I talk with businesses, they go, we have a big bureaucracy here and you don't understand. Like, no, we understand the military understands bureaucracy better than anybody. We probably got the biggest and most, most | <0>1989<0>3681<0>561<0>1206<0>368<0>151<0>3020<0>3535<0>2070<0>3067<0>304<0>652<0>1639<0>1526<0>2055<0>492<0>2619<0>65<0>915<0>2129<0>3176<0>264<0>2385<0>3288<0>3597<0>221<0>2525<0>3158<0>3199<0>151<0>3067<0>1518<0>2703<0>3535<0>934<0>1569<0>3434<0>2471<0>545<0>3617<0>2541<0>3122<0>1575<0>3180<0>2070<0>2775<0>2710<0>27... |
Firm, in-place bureaucracy in the world. | <0>403<0>1213<0>2323<0>1472<0>898<0>2348<0>1618<0>593<0>895<0>1480<0>2106<0>1108<0>3353<0>368<0>3839<0>1022<0>3150<0>288<0>3374<0>3096<0>22<0>2769<0>648<0>3386<0>919<0>1500<0>1902<0>1777<0>2348<0>368<0>1710<0>3585<0>121<0>2769<0>3176<0>1526<0>3435<0>492<0>3447<0>259<0>2707<0>2096<0>3263<0>2068<0>2068<0>2068<0>2068<0>39... |
It was not to be. In fact, only one of the hundreds of officers who had gone through air mobile training and a year in the field with the 1st Cavalry Division was assigned to the infantry school. | <0>464<0>1415<0>492<0>2070<0>3447<0>1007<0>1973<0>3150<0>1579<0>3585<0>3585<0>2104<0>3614<0>3526<0>368<0>1205<0>898<0>43<0>1630<0>2339<0>3373<0>2152<0>3135<0>3067<0>1518<0>83<0>348<0>3782<0>180<0>327<0>3791<0>313<0>1715<0>1007<0>327<0>1392<0>1200<0>212<0>1858<0>1715<0>492<0>3894<0>3180<0>1518<0>484<0>561<0>3447<0>3348<... |
I was sent instead to Washington DC where I was told my next job would be a Latin American desk at the US State Department. This is, this is an embarrassment. Right, here's this guy. | <0>1649<0>2748<0>492<0>2525<0>3850<0>3447<0>386<0>1730<0>1245<0>3447<0>2799<0>895<0>3782<0>1944<0>3585<0>3008<0>1318<0>3096<0>368<0>2966<0>3096<0>3585<0>1171<0>2756<0>1488<0>1902<0>3782<0>3150<0>3782<0>1518<0>3447<0>3593<0>3782<0>931<0>2639<0>225<0>151<0>3782<0>1449<0>233<0>3782<0>3782<0>492<0>3894<0>368<0>3373<0>1518<... |
Basically created or helped create or helped test. | <0>290<0>3373<0>2935<0>3002<0>776<0>4091<0>1526<0>3176<0>3862<0>2832<0>807<0>1171<0>3020<0>368<0>3713<0>3713<0>3923<0>2715<0>3447<0>974<0>385<0>2514<0>2348<0>2152<0>1171<0>1171<0>3781<0>2984<0>2989<0>2970<0>3377<0>974<0>880<0>2030<0>2703<0>2883<0>3850<0>3551<0>2030<0>1266<0>1538<0>2676<0>390<0>3981<0>2068<0>2068<0>2068... |
Helicopter assaults. And then he did it for a year in the field. Commanded at the battalion end at the brigade level. | <0>3003<0>114<0>313<0>3067<0>1518<0>2748<0>2619<0>2471<0>484<0>2070<0>1715<0>3150<0>2707<0>527<0>509<0>2030<0>589<0>1950<0>3447<0>3155<0>368<0>368<0>1318<0>3374<0>3374<0>2009<0>2323<0>562<0>2485<0>1730<0>3046<0>1321<0>412<0>3490<0>1112<0>593<0>3861<0>3585<0>492<0>3898<0>2231<0>2899<0>2293<0>2639<0>1057<0>1031<0>691<0>3... |
And instead of putting him in the infantry school where he could teach the stuff that he learned, they sent him to be the, the, the Latin American desk. | <0>2353<0>746<0>2070<0>1217<0>2598<0>1990<0>3150<0>3031<0>3713<0>313<0>2579<0>3667<0>1710<0>807<0>3592<0>3909<0>1171<0>1978<0>130<0>130<0>2152<0>2769<0>2152<0>3637<0>2060<0>3637<0>3997<0>3235<0>3535<0>3782<0>3150<0>2525<0>3585<0>3020<0>1500<0>83<0>1118<0>2034<0>122<0>2106<0>1108<0>1428<0>3762<0>1428<0>3606<0>3096<0>300... |
And I'll tell you what's awesome. This was awesome. When I was in the SEAL teams, I went to Ramadi. When I came home, guess where I went? I took over the West Coast SEAL training for the, for the guys that were getting ready to deploy right out of Arkansas. I did what he wanted to do. | <0>807<0>2284<0>735<0>1500<0>3791<0>1525<0>3447<0>1007<0>1084<0>3150<0>3299<0>3299<0>4095<0>1108<0>3973<0>1376<0>1022<0>3927<0>2769<0>2769<0>259<0>3150<0>2769<0>1579<0>3134<0>324<0>1238<0>2748<0>3972<0>492<0>1526<0>3850<0>3135<0>2883<0>895<0>3447<0>1518<0>2703<0>1710<0>3067<0>1575<0>405<0>207<0>2799<0>3972<0>1500<0>207... |
Which is perfect and luckily we have the, a little, a little less bureaucracy and I was able to talk to my boss and say, hey, this is what I should be doing. He said, yeah, you're right. And put me in that position. | <0>1120<0>1238<0>1773<0>2769<0>3750<0>484<0>2799<0>3171<0>746<0>807<0>3373<0>3782<0>1311<0>151<0>3642<0>1007<0>3668<0>3402<0>3341<0>1442<0>3373<0>1645<0>3246<0>1974<0>559<0>977<0>2864<0>492<0>1500<0>3373<0>1441<0>2548<0>3447<0>3598<0>348<0>941<0>2994<0>253<0>2525<0>63<0>386<0>3373<0>2619<0>1569<0>2517<0>838<0>1171<0>11... |
But you can't look at the military at a whole and say that that even remotely makes sense in any way, shape or form. And I could point a thousand things out to you today, the military is the same way. | <0>871<0>4009<0>956<0>2493<0>2525<0>3370<0>3002<0>1995<0>3828<0>3404<0>3773<0>3541<0>2001<0>3828<0>374<0>3617<0>2471<0>327<0>2707<0>3607<0>1878<0>1710<0>824<0>3020<0>313<0>3248<0>3349<0>368<0>151<0>3617<0>1500<0>3067<0>4009<0>1014<0>782<0>221<0>1171<0>553<0>3535<0>3447<0>2775<0>3791<0>3612<0>3020<0>3067<0>2935<0>55<0>2... |
I mean it's a great organization, it's got great people, there's, there's unbelievable leaders in there, but there's also idiots. | <0>1338<0>3447<0>3713<0>3927<0>219<0>1569<0>3447<0>3556<0>3963<0>3617<0>1773<0>2470<0>3713<0>3713<0>2070<0>1715<0>3782<0>954<0>715<0>3585<0>1579<0>3096<0>3184<0>895<0>144<0>1272<0>1192<0>3626<0>3020<0>3378<0>365<0>3003<0>1989<0>648<0>580<0>593<0>3985<0>3782<0>21<0>259<0>2935<0>3067<0>3185<0>2070<0>3713<0>1715<0>3617<0>... |
The military is made up of people, of human beings. | <0>1211<0>1804<0>3592<0>3750<0>3235<0>3535<0>2410<0>2070<0>2769<0>2703<0>2935<0>2703<0>1738<0>3447<0>327<0>1715<0>231<0>3874<0>3135<0>1518<0>457<0>457<0>2178<0>2799<0>1944<0>3457<0>3447<0>3373<0>3373<0>2070<0>3821<0>1171<0>3968<0>22<0>3311<0>3977<1>3250<1>962<1>2443<1>1495<1>1495<1>3264<1>1717<1>2186<1>846<1>2362<1>12<... |
Back to the book. For the next year I watched Bob McNamara and John McNaughton, both brilliant men, go through hell as they struggled unsuccessfully to get a handle on the war and the pacification progress in Vietnam. | <0>3373<0>2703<0>2236<0>1858<0>3894<0>915<0>1620<0>746<0>1377<0>1377<0>1377<0>648<0>2840<0>1108<0>465<0>2492<0>1989<0>1989<0>1071<0>1665<0>1855<0>746<0>1858<0>2060<0>3480<0>553<0>2889<0>3637<0>2935<0>2142<0>807<0>2946<0>1518<0>83<0>703<0>1575<0>1518<0>1518<0>3894<0>2142<0>3877<0>1214<0>221<0>3146<0>3923<0>2703<0>1748<0... |
At the end of that year, neither of them was either, neither of them was any closer to finding or creating such a handle. | <0>1307<0>3373<0>191<0>1377<0>967<0>3713<0>2075<0>3176<0>3821<0>3821<0>919<0>3176<0>3020<0>2799<0>2450<0>2035<0>465<0>2187<0>3585<0>1171<0>3176<0>83<0>1500<0>679<0>1171<0>1171<0>3028<0>3642<0>3850<0>1377<0>3176<0>919<0>3617<0>1265<0>1900<0>3881<0>2508<0>390<0>1209<0>3781<0>2924<0>871<0>2092<0>1834<0>75<0>1730<0>3556<0>... |
An office wit summed up what was happening in Vietnam sadly and succinctly. | <0>4062<0>2158<0>1566<0>259<0>3447<0>1944<0>1710<0>1710<0>3180<0>807<0>2935<0>3827<0>2760<0>3742<0>1467<0>2030<0>898<0>484<0>1587<0>3447<0>207<0>3067<0>492<0>3850<0>2703<0>2142<0>1620<0>3008<0>3585<0>3894<0>919<0>1171<0>3008<0>3541<0>1518<0>1518<0>3299<0>2293<0>1467<0>509<0>3821<0>3437<0>3642<0>2185<0>3176<0>1209<0>103... |
So we're pouring all this troops in there, putting all this money in there, putting all this, all these assets in there. We've, we've redoubled our efforts, but we've lost sight of our objective. | <0>2096<0>2989<0>3524<0>304<0>1569<0>3782<0>259<0>1118<0>562<0>3286<0>1016<0>1775<0>616<0>3809<0>1579<0>2525<0>3603<0>2410<0>2142<0>1743<0>381<0>2780<0>1812<0>1285<0>1231<0>2619<0>2619<0>1518<0>562<0>2799<0>3447<0>1977<0>3713<0>3823<0>3667<0>2471<0>366<0>1260<0>23<0>3881<0>3252<0>2156<0>1649<0>207<0>1113<0>3972<0>2619<... |
Back to the book. What then had we learned with our sacrifices in the eye-draining valley? | <0>493<0>4009<0>1617<0>1587<0>1526<0>1579<0>3067<0>2921<0>2642<0>3327<0>1488<0>1575<0>895<0>2750<0>1222<0>158<0>2470<0>2598<0>2525<0>3146<0>229<0>3020<0>1007<0>2799<0>3592<0>1730<0>3519<0>1846<0>2619<0>2471<0>1715<0>2070<0>3447<0>3840<0>2703<0>1500<0>2703<0>3850<0>1710<0>2060<0>369<0>698<0>43<0>3008<0>2158<0>236<0>324<... |
General Westmoreland thought he had found the answer to the question of how to win this war. He would train one American life for 10 or 11 or 12 North Vietnamese lives day after day until Ho Chi Minh cried uncle. | <0>3606<0>3457<0>593<0>3894<0>492<0>1422<0>1238<0>3447<0>2030<0>3067<0>1518<0>2471<0>2799<0>3894<0>1255<0>1201<0>1272<0>1974<0>3973<0>1941<0>1007<0>1518<0>2753<0>2826<0>1324<0>2823<0>3861<0>2769<0>3373<0>1575<0>1277<0>493<0>826<0>2657<0>1730<0>151<0>3637<0>3647<0>2273<0>191<0>1463<0>1056<0>3898<0>2471<0>864<0>2953<0>19... |
But we had validated both the principle and the practice of air mobile warfare. | <0>1883<0>492<0>3598<0>3096<0>1485<0>3861<0>746<0>3067<0>1526<0>2185<0>3585<0>2161<0>3008<0>1255<0>1272<0>852<0>1767<0>1025<0>871<0>3828<0>1938<0>690<0>1567<0>2799<0>83<0>2769<0>3873<0>2707<0>3435<0>2339<0>1579<0>3894<0>1031<0>2799<0>1569<0>2324<0>404<0>3791<0>3447<0>2594<0>2838<0>2703<0>1500<0>690<0>1238<0>1422<0>1238... |
A million American soldiers would ride to battle in Huey helicopters for the next eight years and the familiar whoop whoop whoop of their rotors would be the enduring soundtrack of this war. | <0>2221<0>348<0>151<0>3020<0>3235<0>1022<0>3585<0>151<0>1214<0>4009<0>3828<0>1777<0>3509<0>2769<0>1007<0>1518<0>229<0>151<0>3020<0>770<0>3902<0>2456<0>3435<0>1500<0>1518<0>1500<0>1850<0>729<0>3184<0>361<0>3003<0>3096<0>1579<0>2185<0>1444<0>3899<0>512<0>3898<0>3874<0>587<0>3457<0>3176<0>3585<0>553<0>1518<0>1575<0>1759<0... |
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