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So instead of walking around and feeling, you know, I'm not feeling sorry for my teammates because they're in a better place. They don't feel anymore.
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I'm really just feeling sorry for myself. And then by doing that, I'm sac-, I'm wasting the sacrifices that they made on my behalf. And I had to change the way I looked at it. Instead of using it as my excuse, I had to use it as my fuel. And that's a choice.
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That is a conscious choice. You wake up every day and you decide.
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How you look at the situation, you decide what you do with it. You decide whether you use it as your excuse to hold you back or you use it as your easy, you know, valve of, of hiding who you are, or you use it as your fuel to go out and be the best that you can be. You decide that nobody does. Nobody else does. You do...
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Make the right choice. Make the choice. Make the right choice. And you know what the right choice is.
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I mean, any day that I don't want to go on and push on for myself, I can look down and I'll bet you anything.
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I got four reasons right here that would switch me one day. They would switch me my worst day to have one more day.
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I'm not okay with letting their sacrifices be wasted. I'm not okay with watching anybody else waste them, so why would I be okay with letting myself waste them?
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It's normal. It doesn't mean you're weak. It doesn't, I want to get that, that stigma out there. Uh, you know, I want to get that off the books is it's, it is a normal, like I don't understand why, why it's okay in our society or in the military. A guy breaks his leg.
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Okay, do you go make him run tomorrow? He puts a cast on it. He rehabs it. It's the same thing with the mind. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. You go in and you watch. The people you have to worry about.
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Are the ones that go watch their close friends and they watch human beings and they watch this evil and people die and suffer and don't have a reaction. Those are the ones you have to worry about.
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But you know how it goes, like it was all, I didn't believe it. I never, I never had any idea. Uh, you know, you hear talk about it, Silver Star, Medal of Honor, Navy Cross, whatever, right?
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I didn't care. I didn't ca- I- I promised the last thing that I ever thought about was an award. An award. That's the last thing.
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You know, I, I mean, you're exactly right. Like, I mean, there's so many stories that are, I mean, people have done.
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So many stories of people doing such incredible stuff. And, you know, it's literally out of the love of another human being.
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It's literally, I love making the world a better place. That's really, that's really all we do. That's all we do. I mean, we join.
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Nobody joins, okay, to go just shoot people or fight.
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They literally joined to, to try to make the world around them a better place. Whether it's passing out aid, whether it's rendering aid to a civilian or to a,
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Oh, you know, a fellow American, or whether it's taking out the bully that's inflicting fear.
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In that place. Every. Thing. That we do.
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Is to try to make the world just a little bit better. That's it.
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No, I mean, I mean a hundred percent, I mean, Doc Layton was rendering aid, you know, what stopped him was, cause Fazel was with him. What stopped him of getting to the road was Lieutenant Johnson got hit.
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You know, but they weren't gonna, they weren't gonna leave him behind.
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Even more, even more of not leaving him behind.
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They weren't gonna just throw him over his shoulder and get him out. They were gonna try to fix him.
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I mean, what do you say? I mean, you know, that right there, I mean, that right there is everything. I mean, you take that, you take, I mean, there's so many actions. I mean, I've watched people do such incredible things.
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Such incredible things that just make what I do, I mean, nah, you know, nah, it makes me look like I, you know, I've done nothing. I've seen it, you know, people are incredible.
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Yeaah. I mean, that's... You know, I hear stories like that and it's just...
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You know, that's real people. Yea. These are real people. Just like us.
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Yeah, they're just, they're just people. They're just people. I mean that's, they're just people.
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They're just, and, and, you know, and I think that that's kinda what makes it harder for society.
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Is that they see so many of these movies and they read these books and
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You know, they read it, but what they don't understand is that somebody lived it.
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You know, and I think that that's a perspective that you always have to remind yourself of, is that yeaah, you're reading it, but somebody lived it. You know? Yeaah.
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I despise everything that metal stands for. For me, you know, I mean, not anybody else. But I...
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To me, it's literally, here's the stamp to show the world how bad I failed.
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That's why I don't, I don't wear it. I don't, I don't wear it because, you know, it's the worst day of my life.
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And, uh, I lost everything that day. I lost not just my team. I lost my career in the Marine Corps. I mean everything that I wanted to be.
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Was gone. Within one day. And, you know, and then I get recognized for it. You know, so not only do you have to live with it.
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But now you have to live with it in the face of the nation.
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And, and you know, and that's the piece of it, you're right. I mean, so on the selfish, you know, when I, what I just said was on the selfish side of it. Right? That, that, that is for me. Uhm, that, that is the only reason I did accept the medal was because
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I want my teammates to live on forever. I want people to know who they were. Cause the day that I stop speaking their name, is the day they truly die. And I have an obligation that as long as I can still breathe,
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That their names are still need to be told. And uhm, so that's what that medal allows me to do. And it is their medal. I mean, it's for them. Uhm, but yeaah, I mean.
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You know, you don't, it's just, it goes against, you know, and I think the one thing, you know, that is so hard for us to wrap around is, how many times in your training
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Did you, how many times did you set, like when you were training guys and this and that, how many times did you ever set them up for when they did everything that they could? They failed.
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Yeah. But the mentality of it is, you know, there are some situations you're not going to win.
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There are some situations where you show up and you're not gonna win.
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And that's against everything that we believe and everything that we're taught.
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You know what I mean? That, that if we do our job and we do it right, and you still lose?
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100%. 100%. I appreciate you having me on.
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Yeah, I got a YouTube channel. What's that called? Uh, it's, it's just Dakota Meyer. So I've got the YouTube channel, just Dakota Meyer. Where my podcast goes up, it's on Own the Dash. Own the Dash, what does that mean? Uh, so, you know, Own the Dash comes from a poem Linda Ellison wrote called The Dash, and uh,
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You know, I, I felt like, I felt like people in America just needed something to hold on to and, uh, you know, so I always look at what is success and how do I want to be remembered and that's kind of like a big thing for me and I, uh,
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So, Linda Ellis wrote an appointment and talked about how, like at a funeral, you know, a man stood to speak and he referred to the dates, you know, on the tombstone from the beginning, you know, with the date the person was born and the day he died. And really those are the two, only two days in your life that you do...
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And everything else, what matters is that dash in between. And so how are you going to own your dash? What is your dash going to look like? Because you can control that. You can control what that dash looks like. How, you know,
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Whatever you did, the empires you built, what matters is how you changed people's lives.
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And that's how you're remembered. And where your true success, in my mind, is, you'll be defined, will be what people say about you at your funeral.
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And so that's where it comes to me is, is own the dash. It's where the idea of it came from. So own your dash. You know?
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Yeah, you know, I come in, talk to businesses, teams, give my leadership principles of, you know, what I believe to make success. You know, listen, I'm simple though.
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Uhm, but you know, what, what I feel like, you know, my life, I talk about my story and kind of what happened to me and then I come around and I, what does that mean to me, right? What does that mean? Like, you know, every story without, uh, every story or experience that you go through that doesn't have a meaning aft...
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And, uh, so I talk about that, and I just, you know, do a lot of public speaking, trying to, I just want to inspire people. I'm like, I just, you know, I just want to, honestly, I just want to change the world.
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No, listen, I can't tell you how much I appreciate you having me on. It's an honor to have you on Echo.
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You know, listen, it's, uh, I got a lot out of this podcast. I got a lot of, uh, you know, just hearing your perspective and, you know, uh,
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I just, I just want people out there to know that, you know, I'm no different than anybody else. The only difference is the opportunities that's been put in front of me. And uhm, you know, I appreciate you having me on.
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Yeah, do you think that that's how, or that's what, because when it comes down to the essence, it's kinda like, and this is just me totally guessing, where Judo, well as it is now, it's like, okay, the goal is basically to put the guy on his back, that's it. Put him down on the ground.
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Not to hit him, not to knock him, not to put him on the ground, right? It kinda seems, okay, that's not really violent. That's kinda the little friendly competition. Put him on the ground. Now with any competitive situation, guys are gonna get after it. And it slowly just evolves into all these crazy things.
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Yeah, it escalates even just the whole way. So even con- uh, consider like basketball. For example, the goal-
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Put that ball in that basket. That's it. Go from here, come close, lay up, whatever. Then you get this competitive drive, these people, athletic abilities, all this stuff. Now, it's turning into weird slam dunks now, but you didn't have to slam dunk that thing. But it's still the same thing, putting the ball, you know...
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Seems like the drilling helps you get a hold of what you do with your body. And then the brand Dory, the rolling, gives you, uh, you know, control or better skill in dealing with other people. So, and that's what Jesus both, you know, where you can kind of. And you're going to get.
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Yeah, that's why those introductory courses are so critical. Man, I'm talking about GJT obviously. Where...
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You get a, a new guy, first day guy, and he jumps in a class, and the class they're teaching, you know, the mechanics of a certain move. Meanwhile, everyone in the class, they're not first day people, they know the concepts behind it, but they come in and it's just, it's just a different language. It doesn't stick. Ye...
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You're not just gonna roll into the post office and be like, hey, do you want ketchup with that? Doesn't make sense. No it does not. Unusable.
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Yeah, cause there's like, even what he's talking about, I like how he did it in numbers, like how he did that. Uhm, but the reality is like that,
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Again, cool to have the numbers, but it's not, they're not absolute numbers, there's a lot of gray area in there. So the idea is to take his 10 and use, almost like using part of his 10 on top of your 7, because you're going the same way. Oh, for sure.
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It's like how much of that ten are you gonna use? If you're one, you better be using nine. You better be a master. Yeaah. You gotta be using a lot of his number, you know, his numbers.
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Not gonna happen. Even if you use full power. Even if you use full power.
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Yeah, and actually, that actually backs up, or kind of refers back to your point where when you say can a level 1 be a level 10? So a level, if they both know jujitsu or judo, then eh, you know, it's weird, cause he knows the same thing as you. But, you know, if you're,
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Nine, if you're better than the guy a factor of nine, then you know your chances start to go up as a one.
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But I think that's where people, they, they get jammed up, where they're like, hey, what do, I thought size didn't matter in jujitsu. Well yea, if everyone's doing jujitsu, of course size matters, just like, condition's gonna matter, just like how tall it matters, how strong it matters when you all know the jujitsu.
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Yeah, bro, did you see? There's a clip, a doodle clip on online.
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Wherever I saw it, but it's a clip, and so this guy wins, right? Real dramatic win, like maybe he wasn't supposed to win, or I don't know, maybe he's an upset, maybe not, or maybe it was the finals, I don't know. But it was a real dramatic win, he wins, and he's like, you know how they yell and they be all happy or wh...
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DQ. DQ. Yeaah. Just like that. So legit. Like, man, in jujitsu, MMA, man, you see that all day. Yeaah. That's-
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Yeaah, I remember in Pop Warner, you know, my only frame of reference was watching football on TV, NFL. And you see him spiking the ball, doing the icky shuffle, back in my day, icky, you know, icky woods, anyway, back in the day. Uhm, and, so,
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You know, we played popcorn football my first year. I knew that our coach was super disciplined, like the kind where you had to, everyone had to wear high white socks, white shoes, like it was real discipline. And I'd see other teams and they different color shoes, all this stuff. That's all I knew though. So it was c...
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They, he spiked the ball, little kid spiked the ball and does the thing or whatever, straight up flag. It's a, it's a penalty. Oh. Actually even in college it's like that. Oh. Right? I don't know. Yea, in college football it's like that. You can do, you can do more for sure.
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But yea, a pop runner, anything. If you do anything, you throw the ball, you put your hands up for too long. If you put your hands up for too long after you make a touchdown, that's a penalty on sportsman-like conduct. That's legit, right? I think so, especially as little kids.
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Uhm, this is what he said, when you're a professional football player, you can, and you make a touchdown, uh, something about like, that's your job or whatever. So yeah, you, you, you have the right to be happy about it. That was kind of it. But when I think about it now, it's like, shoot, if you're a professional, yo...
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I'm hungry. But the reason that those are so cool, like Fador, that's a great example by the way, where he's just, no, he's not getting hyped up before the fight, he's not hyped up afterwards, you know, no emotions, he's cold, that, that,
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That seems more appealing because it's in contrast to all the hype, all the hype, all this guy getting hyped up and whatever. So if everyone was like that...
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It would be less. It would still be cool. But even then I'm probably just comparing it to like how I know it now.
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You know what I mean? Yea, exactly right. So, you know, there's a dichotomy there.
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Yeah, but when you, and this is really what it is, and this goes for the NFL too, but yeah, for sure. Um, it's, it's a show. Gotta remember that. It's a competition for sure. Yeah, it's a show. Exactly right. So, and that makes sense too for the NFL, where, let's face it.
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Yeah, but just like you say man, like Connor and like these guys who do put on a show, that's kinda cool too. You see what I'm saying?
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Yeaah, kinda like having the metric ranch sockets and the, you know.
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And the other one. And then you got the other one. You gotta need that one. You gotta get the one, the other one. Yeaah. You come across a bolt. That's metric. Yeaah. Right? You better be ready for that.
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B-boys do breakdancing, so it's like judo and judoka. So B-boys is a breakdancer.
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Yeah, yeah. Breakdown is pretty fun. I used to do it when I was young.
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Yeah, and that, that is what they attribute to their skills developing so quickly, so quickly. And when you, when you think about it,
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Man, it's absolutely true because you think of breakdancing moves like how you can spin on your back and do it like all this stuff like-
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To spin on your back, you know these guys who go inverted and do all this stuff where they have really good control of their, like, spatial awareness and their body. Yeaah, you know? So these breakdancing guys, they come in with level 10 of that.
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Yeah, you know what it was? It was the African slaves in Brazil. Yeah, yeah. And if you notice, I know it's because they did a whole, it's not a thesis, what do you call it? Anyway, a thing in college, but they,
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