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Yeaah, so we had built up, I was back probably a year, year and a half, went to mountain sniper school, and uhm, you know, I became in charge of my own team.
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We ended up being the general support team, so we moved all the way up to the platoon and ended up being...
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One of the best, one of the best teams in this tournament. And, uh, yeaah, so we're out at 29 Palms doing our final train up to go back to Iraq. And this was when nothing was going on, 2009. I mean, they weren't letting you leave the wire, right? And, uh, we had no mission, so it kinda sucked, right?
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They came and said, we need five volunteers to go to Afghanistan. And I said, what's the mission? They said, we don't know, but we just need five bodies. And I raised my hand and said, yeah, I'm ready to go.
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So an embedded training team is where they take, uh, you know, they take different ranks and different skill sets, uh, marines, and they put them, or you know, whatever, you know, military unit, and they put them together and they, they embed them with, uh, you know, uh, an Afghan unit, you know, so we were embedded w...
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And so that's, that's, we just lived, we did everything with them, we did everything from...
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You know, teaching them weapons tactics and, and, uh, you know, uh, shooting, shooting. I did the changeover for the NATO weapons, right, so we took them from the Soviet to the NATO weapons, and that's another key factor that we need to bring up to talk about in that gunfight.
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So we were, you know, teaching them on that, calling them all on that, you know, everything from everything. I mean, we did everything with these guys.
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That you were going to deploy with? Yeah, so we did, we did a workup with them. Actually, you know, I had just left 29 Palms.
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We go back and we train for like a month or two in Okinawa, Japan with this new team. And then we head back to Twin Up Bombs.
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And then we go from, uh, well we went back, so we went to Bridgeport, and then we came down to 29 Palms. We did all our mountain stuff at Bridgeport, uhm, all our mules and all that stuff, you know, packing, and then we came down and did it, ended in 29 Palms, and then we headed over.
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With, uh, Lieutenant Johnson, Gunny Kenefick, uh, and Doc Layton, myself.
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Yeah, no I was, and you know, what prepared me was my training that I deal with my team, uhm, you know, my sniper team. I mean, look, I had...
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You know, people thought I was crazy. They thought I was crazy the way that I was training in my platoon before. You're like, we're going to Iraq, we're not going to do anything. I'm like, I don't give a shit.
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Right? Like I'm, I was still learning TacSat and I was still learning, you know, Satcom and I was still learning HF and I was still learning how to load crypto. I mean, I wanted to know every aspect of every part of the job. I was learning every, I was going over to the, to the BAS and learning.
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You know, all the medical stuff that I could, and I was, you know, I mean everything I could do, like if I could get just a little nugget of knowledge and better myself in every aspect, I was doing it. And uhm, so yeaah, so when I got over,
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To this team, I mean, you know, I, I was the only
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Tactical guy in there, you know, and uh,
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Yeah, and it was, you know, they were, they were, when it came to the tactics, when it came to making sure that the weapons were ready, when it came to making sure that the vehicles were ready, that the, that the, you know, that the, uh, the jammers were working, that, you know, if anything that mattered in the patrol...
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Yeah, it was kind of interesting, you know, because I was kind of the high-strung one on the team, you know, like I was like the one that always was.
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You know, we need to be ready to fight. You know, I don't know how many arguments I got into with some of the, the, the, the leadership in, in teams, you know, cause we, we were a 21 man team, but we were broken into four man elements and spread out, you know, in this area. And I don't know how many times I got into a...
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You know, trying to train them to do IVs at night with nods, and they're like, why the hell are we doing this? You know what I mean? Like, and a lot of people, you know, look down on it, and uh,
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And I said, I'm going to prepare to fight. And they said, you know, we're not, you know, they, so many times the leadership got on me. We're not going over there to fight. We're going to advise.
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And that was the mindset of a lot of this, now I'm not gonna say my team, but a lot of the team. And uh, and it showed.
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You know what I tell them is, I said, you know, Lieutenant Johnson was a, was a calm guy, satellite guy. Doc Layton was a blue side corpsman. And Gunny Kenefick was an S-1 guy. You know, and I always wonder,
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Do you think that they ever thought they'd be in one of the deadliest battles in Afghanistan? Do you think they ever thought? They didn't.
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You know, you don't know where you're gonna be at, but one day you're gonna be tested. And you better be ready.
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Hafez? Am I saying that right? Yeah, so his name's Fazel, so I had named him Hafez and that to protect him. He's here in America now.
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They live there, they want it to be better. You know, they're just caught in a bad situation. It's not a, it's not a, it's not a simple equation. You know, there's nothing simple.
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Yeah, you know, the thing about Kennethick was, me and him were buttin' heads. Real hard. At that time, you know, we were buttin' heads.
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You know, he, he had kinda pissed me off pretty bad about, you know, asking me to do, you know, he, he, you know, he needed to stand in a parade dress, like he was all big on it, right? And it's like, we're on a, we're on a cop.
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Like, you know, you know, you still need to, you know, customs and courtesies, right? And so, I gotta use that situation to make a point, you know, he just kinda pushed me over the edge, but after that,
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I, I ate at least two meals a day with them. Uhm, you know, usually I didn't eat breakfast with them. I would eat it over at the, uh, over at the, uh, you know, the chow hall. Uhm, but I used, you know, that was my, that was my policy. I mean, every night I eat dinner with them. Every single night I would eat dinner w...
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Yeah, I mean we weren't, I mean just because it was Iraq and Afghanistan war, we weren't fighting Iraq and Afghanistan. We were fighting with them. We weren't fighting against Iraq or Afghanistan. We were fighting next to them. We were helping them against the same enemy. You know?
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Uh, so Gangegall was on a Tuesday. That was September 6th of 2009.
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It was a huge rocket attack. I mean they were dialed in. It was terrible. Like I can remember it as if I was there. It was terrible. How many rockets did they fire? Uh, I think we had nine that hit the 107th.
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That hit dead on, like in, not just, nine that hit just inside of, of not the whole bass, but just my afghan bass. It's, it's probably just, you know, where we're at right now is probably bigger than that. It was terrible.
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Oh, it was for all of us, I mean, it was for all of us and it was for them and, you know, I'll never forget, uhm,
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You know, I'll never forget talking. I mean, we, we finally sat down and talked about what do we do if we lose one of it. You know, what do we want? And uhm.
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Gosh, it was so real. And, you know, I'll never forget, Kenefick, I had, uh, I had medevacked out a guy, a wounded soldier that day, uhm, and he was putting me in for a Bronze Star.
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And I'll never forget he, we were just walking through in the, uh, in the little hooch and he said, uh, and where we lived at. And he was just, you know, kind of joking a little bit later on that day. He's like, hell Meyer, you know, the way shit's going for you and as unlucky as you are, he goes, you'll probably be i...
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We'd actually got the call that night that we were supposed to go to Gangegal on the 7th. And they ended up pushing it right to the 8th. So we left the next day.
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No, no, I mean, I mean, we were told instantly. I mean, we were told like, I mean, we, we, I mean, yeaah, there was no doubt.
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Uhm, yeaah, I mean, I, I, I think it's an ignorance thing.
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I mean, technically the way that this works, as crazy as this sounds, I was working for, like, my commander was the Afghan commander. Whatever the Afghan commander told me was what I was...
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Yes, yes, yes. I mean that, you know, but that, uhm, if you remember what I said a little bit earlier about, you know, hey, we're not going to do the fighting. I mean, that's the mentality of the leadership of the team.
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Yeaah, I mean, an eyebrow, I mean, first off, first off, the Afghans can't even talk to anybody that calls for fire or the helicopters. I mean, they don't even have any comms with them. They're on HF. You know what I mean? Yeaah, yeaah.
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I mean, I, so the three main factors that I brought up in the brief, and I brought up that look, we're only, everybody's going in, we have over 12 different moving elements between the OPs and different teams inside this patrol, all on one frequency.
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I brought that up. I brought up the fact that uhm, that we didn't have direct air support is on 15 minute strip alert and that's in Jalalabad. So all, you know, so they were taking it as if the birds would be there within 15 minutes. I said that's not what 15 minute strip alert means.
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That means off the ground in 15 minutes, and then they still got nine, probably 60 minutes to get from Jalalabad to us. And so, you know, that was another factor. And then the other thing that I brought up was, uhm, why would we put our snipers 2,000 meters away from the village?
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I'm an E-4 in the United States Marine Corps. What do I know about mission planning? And that's why I was taken out of the team.
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Yeah, team money. And so, what they did was, is, you know, they had, there was like, they would put the teams, you know, you would go with your Afghans in here to do their part.
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So our team was supposed to go to the back of the village, cover the backside of it, and then we were gonna search a couple houses up there for a machine gun. And, uh, while the meeting went on. And they took me out of the team because I brought up those concerns. And, uh,
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You know, they kind of took it as me going against orders, questioning their authority, and they replaced me with Gunny, Gunny Johnson.
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You know, that's, that's the type of mentality you have when you don't expect to go get your ass handed to you. That's why you need to expect to get your ass handed to you every day. And train like it.
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I got pulled off the team and my job was going to be to stay with the vehicles. So like basically we were going to drive vehicles in, park the vehicles, and that was the other thing I said. I said, this is dumb. Why, why would we leave our up armored guns a couple miles away?
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And they said, you mean, you ready for the response here? You ready? Uh, well Dakota, uh, because we want to go into the village clandestine. You have a 90 man patrol.
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Yeah, it splits into, it splits into two, like, it's kinda like two valleys inside of a big valley. Right. And on the right hand side was another bad valley, but we were going in the left hand side, and that was Gangegall. And, uh,
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I mean, this terrain was built to fight. It was built to fight. I mean, they had trenches in it. There were trenches in it that they used to fight out of. I mean, it's nuts.
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Yeah, so I, I, so everything that I did was planned out the night before.
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Everything that I did was planned out the night before and it was all in our team. I mean, I told him, I mean, I told him, I said, you know, you say the word and I'll head in there. I don't care. And I'm coming to get you.
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And uhm, I mean that, we had this all planned out. Like, all they had to do was get to the road, and I would be there.
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Wait, so here's the crazy part. Nobody told us.
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Yeah, I'm sitting back at the, you know, back at the trucks and they're going, you know, they're going into the valley. And uhm, yeah, at this point, now everybody's leaving the valley.
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Yeah, I mean, you know, like, they're gonna just, they blow their load, like, right in the beginning, and then, you know, they don't have enough, like, they're not able to, like us, resupply. They don't sustain anything. This was endless.
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That's exactly what happened. And the other piece of it was, it's not just that, it was all that one frequency. Everything had to be relayed through those snipers to get back to you.
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Yes, I did, but I'm saying like to get to the command. So if you, like, you know, and the big thing I brought up was, was, you know, what happens if you're calling in a medevac and you're calling in call for fire.
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But it goes back to the one thing I said, right? I mean, they couldn't, probably couldn't figure out who the hell was calling what and where what was where. I mean, I don't know that I could have confidently fired around.
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And, but part of it was because of the layout of everybody on one frequency.
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You know, it goes back to that initial problem. Like I don't know if I could have fired a round. Now am I, am I pissed that they didn't fire rounds? Absolutely. Like it was wrong. It was wrong for the reasons they did it. But.
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Oh, let me tell you something. They were good. They were good. They were trained. They had gear.
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You know, they had plate carriers. They were taking the uniforms off our dead guys. Uhm, you know, they put Kevlar's on and shit. They were good.
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Yeah, so that's where my problem comes in, right? Is, you know, if the doctrine is that I give my initials, I take the responsibility, well then follow the doctrine.
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I mean, that's 100% it. I mean, that's 100% it. Is, is, you know, uhm, you could never, first off, you could never relay all that information there. And guess what? At the end of the day, it was irrelevant.
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It was terrible, like as we go in, you're just seeing these guys come out and it's in Ramadan so they won't eat or they won't drink any water and they're coming out of this battle and they're just, like, you're not even close to the valley yet and they're coming out of this battle, they don't have any weapons on them,...
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They've been shot. They've just, I mean, you're carrying each other and you're just like, what are we going into?
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Yeah, I don't think they could have. The road wouldn't have held up. Too small? Yeah, cause they ended up coming in in one of those, uh, it looks like a tank, but it's on wheels. And it ended up flipping over off the bank. But they, look, at the end of the day, we had a ton of Humvees. I mean, we just brought in 90 pe...
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And I mean, you know, that rule right there is written so impossible.
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Well, usually, and that's what I always say, right? I always talk about ROEs and, you know, ROEs will say, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But then at the end of it, it always ends. It says, or, hostile act, hostile intent.
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But it's all by interpretation. I mean that it goes back to the commanders. I mean, you know, I don't blame the ROE that Stanley McChrystal put in place for what happened that day. I blame the people, the leadership who was incompetent to make a decision.
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Nobody wants to just own it and take accountability and take responsibility and say, you know what? I'm doing this because it's the right thing to do.
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They want to be able to say, well, I didn't do it because, well, this is the order. Come on. Come on. You know, if you're in a leadership position, take responsibility.
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And my whole goal was just to get him, you know, was to get him to the road. And, uh,
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They could get to the road. They could get in the vehicles. They were good. So I was trying to push. I thought that they had took over a house, right? I thought they had pushed into the village and took over a house. Strong pointed a house. And that's what I thought they had done.
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And I lost, yeaah, I lost communications with them. So I thought they had done. You know, when, uh, Kinefic was trying to give that grid, I was trying to write it down. Cause I knew if I could get that grid, I'd know where they were at, I could plot it, I could be there and go get them. And, uhm,
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You know, the one part I don't talk about in there is, probably the hardest part of the whole deal is, is that the first trip that I made in,
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It really did matter to them. You're saying it mattered? I'm saying it to who was asking. They really, their decisions were based off of who it was.
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I mean, look, you know, I didn't just lose, uhm, I didn't just lose, uh, four guys that day. I lost ten guys because I lost six Afghans. I lost ten brothers.
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You know what I mean? I mean, those guys were just as close to me. My Afghans were just as close to me as any Marines I ever served with.
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I mean, that's, that's the relationships that I had with them and the brotherhood that I had for them with them is why I'm alive today. I mean, they, they are incredible human beings.
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Yeah, I just kept, I kept, like the bullets were hitting inside the turret. They had elevation on us.
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And so they were hitting inside the turret. And uhm, man, you could hear them coming by. And I just, I remember sitting there. You know, cause if you get down, I mean, you know, your instinct is to duck down the turret.
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But you do that, they'll overrun you. I mean, they were running at the truck. So, yep.
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You duck down, they're full sprint. And you're never gonna come back up. You know what I mean? And uhm.
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I just kept waiting for a bullet, I just knew it was just gonna hit me in the face. I just kept waiting for a bullet to hit me, lights out. Like I just, I just, there was no doubt in my mind that I was gonna die. Zero. Zero doubt. But I was gonna make the son of a bitches earn it. They had it to do.
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Cause that truck gets over, if they take the gun out, that truck doesn't come out of there. It's overran.
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But, you know, even though it's a bullet magnet, I mean, you know, just like right there, I think that kind of paints the picture. I mean, it's the only chance you have. Right. I mean, you're out. I mean, that's how dialed in they are.
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You wanna talk about helpless, the most helpless feeling you got? Is watching guys trying to get to you. And just getting mowed down.
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I mean, you wanna talk about helpless. And you don't even know where it's coming from.
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I mean, you wanna talk about helpless, is watching another human being run directly at you to get help. And you're just watching them.
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