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True | pipeep | null | Chrome is written as native code with large amounts of assembly optimization for stuff like x86 and ARM. Java applets cannot execute native code, as it would be a security violation.
Frankly, Java is a little too slow to make a good browser with, but if you are interested, there is an interesting project from Mozilla called "[Rhino](https://www.mozilla.org/rhino/)," which is a Java-based Javascript engine (and it can compile JS to Java bytecode so that it can take advantage of JIT). | null | 0 | 1315856121 | False | 0 | c2jcvim | t3_ka0qg | null | t1_c2jcvim | t1_c2iqpix | null | 1427591200 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | igouy | null | > no current programming language supports different versions of the language to be used in parallel
Please make that less ambiguous - I have both Python 2.7 and Python 3.2 installed and have no difficulty running a script with Python 2.7 at the same time as running a script with Python 3.2, so presumably you mean something different than that ;-) | null | 0 | 1315856223 | False | 0 | c2jcw1o | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jcw1o | t1_c2jc6y7 | null | 1427591213 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | lewiji | null | I used to live with the author of this post while we did an internship together. To be fair to him, he's a really great developer who is still an undergrad, and I think this is a lesson all developers will learn sooner or later. And on listening, well... The guy is actually deaf :) | null | 0 | 1315856233 | False | 0 | c2jcw41 | t3_kczbt | null | t1_c2jcw41 | t1_c2ja9t4 | null | 1427591211 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | merlinm | null | nope: you can't make domains of composite types. you need to make the check constraint as an immutable function, and add it to each table upon which you have to enforce the constraint (unfortunately).
option 'b', which is more complicated, is to make a custom type with it's own typein/typeout functions. before we had arrays and composites, this was the only way -- there is very little reason to do it now though. | null | 0 | 1315856361 | False | 0 | c2jcwtf | t3_kd0x9 | null | t1_c2jcwtf | t1_c2jcsbv | null | 1427591218 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | kankeroo | null | > This is true. And where it does implement it, you can expect tons of bugs.
The D book by Andrei seems interesting. I like the list of features. Are you saying that the DMD compiler is not ready for production use yet? | null | 0 | 1315856374 | False | 0 | c2jcww7 | t3_kaxjq | null | t1_c2jcww7 | t1_c2j4z70 | null | 1427591228 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | nullsucks | null | I misread that as "firing squad", which would be *slightly* too harsh. | null | 0 | 1315856377 | False | 0 | c2jcwx2 | t3_kczbt | null | t1_c2jcwx2 | t1_c2jbjh8 | null | 1427591228 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | serendib | null | TKM, Master Fencer. If I got one melee hit on you you were dead. Could solo a krayt wurm.
One rifleman head shot? Dead | null | 0 | 1315856435 | False | 0 | c2jcx8a | t3_kctmn | null | t1_c2jcx8a | t1_c2ja2lf | null | 1427591233 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | SuperGrade | null |
> The question is, how do you get people to "level up" or when do you decide that they aren't sufficiently dedicated to improvement.
Fear if one day you find yourself surrounded absolutely by these folk. It's quite the "I am Legend" moment - the original novel's ending, not the Will Smith movie.
> I think reading other people's code is a skill that sooo many people don't have. If you have open source code you have questions about, you can just look at the source.
This is something I've had trouble fully grasping myself. You can see how someone programs by the code they emit - but you can't see (or feel the fear from) what they see when you look at code they didn't write.
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True | lewiji | null | It was an IBM summer internship project, written from scratch by a small team over 3 months or so. | null | 0 | 1315856645 | False | 0 | c2jcycg | t3_kczbt | null | t1_c2jcycg | t1_c2jc2l6 | null | 1427591242 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | DuncanSmart | null | But the Perforce tooling is dreadful. | null | 0 | 1315856833 | False | 0 | c2jcz54 | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2jcz54 | t1_c2jar7x | null | 1427591251 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | jjheiselman | null | With regards to data-mining, rizla7 clearly only thinks of cloud-computing as the public services offered by companies like Amazon, Google, etc.... We won't bother to mention that Microsoft offers it as well.
What he disregards is the cloud-computing that companies are starting to use more and more often internally to their large enterprises. Google OpenStack for an example. This space will only grow as it is the next evolution of virtualization. | null | 0 | 1315856842 | False | 0 | c2jcz7p | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jcz7p | t1_c2jceo7 | null | 1427591251 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1315856877 | False | 0 | c2jczde | t3_kd5f6 | null | t1_c2jczde | t1_c2jbjq7 | null | 1427591253 | -5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | fgriglesnickerseven | null | That's good to hear that he's not as un-aware of his peers as he seems in his blog post. At least he now understands that (unless you're are going to extremely efficient algorithms) the means by which you accomplish and end in software doesn't really matter, as long as it performs as desired/meets specifications. | null | 0 | 1315856879 | False | 0 | c2jczdv | t3_kczbt | null | t1_c2jczdv | t1_c2jcw41 | null | 1427591253 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | mistoroboto | null | That's even worse, it's proprietary to that browser. Cue the blinking text in Netscape. | null | 0 | 1315856893 | False | 0 | c2jczfx | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jczfx | t1_c2jcsma | null | 1427591253 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | lanbanger | null | but only slightly | null | 0 | 1315856965 | False | 0 | c2jczth | t3_kczbt | null | t1_c2jczth | t1_c2jcwx2 | null | 1427591256 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rizla7 | null | they sued them for all those things (one was dotnet), because of the licensing fiasco with dotnet vs java. larry had a hissy fit, like i said. it's all documented history. | null | 0 | 1315856965 | False | 0 | c2jcztl | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jcztl | t1_c2jaxb0 | null | 1427591256 | -4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | slash112 | null | I think I love you.
Also, you're right enough about the disclaimer, so I went ahead and added a bit about that. | null | 0 | 1315856999 | False | 0 | c2jczzz | t3_kc166 | null | t1_c2jczzz | t1_c2jbhos | null | 1427591257 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | nemtrif | null | > but certainly Java was trying to fix some perceived flaws in C++
Java was certainly marketed that way, but in reality it is a very different language than C++ with different usage scenarios and of course it never replaced C++. | null | 0 | 1315857122 | True | 0 | c2jd0my | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jd0my | t1_c2jcv5u | null | 1427591264 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | doubtingthomas | null | There are a lot of things for which shared state is more convenient, but you could claim it is necessary for performance purposes in a number of cases. For example, if you want sequential IDs for each request, you could use a shared state (along with atomic instructions) and get it without blocking or context switching; implemented with message passing, it'd likely be much worse, performance-wise.
Or if you have some rarely-written-often-read data, with shared state you can have many concurrent readers, but if you're managing it with one process and message passing, one reader gets serviced at a time.
So, shared state, when used properly, can significantly decrease blocking and context switching when compared to message passing, and in some cases that is necessary.
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True | whabash090 | null | I am waiting for someone to find where you have stolen this article from. As per top comment of the OpenJDK article also on the front page:
>[–]jsled 11 points 3 hours ago
>The real article, BTW, is at http://www.java7developer.com/blog/?p=361 . javacodegeeks needs to stop stealing people's content. | null | 0 | 1315857230 | False | 0 | c2jd18d | t3_kda7w | null | t1_c2jd18d | t3_kda7w | null | 1427591272 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | hungryfoolish | null | HTML. | null | 0 | 1315857256 | False | 0 | c2jd1dm | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jd1dm | t1_c2jcoqc | null | 1427591274 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | schplat | null | Really? It was a buggy, broken, piece of crap at release. I was in early beta on it. Half the professions didn't work (I may have been one of only 3-4 people to test Bio-Engineer). There was a massive combat nerf pre-release. There was nothing to actually do at release, the mission consoles gave you an option to kill something, or fedex, that was it. PvP hadn't been fleshed out. I could keep going on.. | null | 0 | 1315857303 | False | 0 | c2jd1lw | t3_kctmn | null | t1_c2jd1lw | t1_c2jakx8 | null | 1427591286 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rasherdk | null | 1.10. | null | 0 | 1315857390 | False | 0 | c2jd22n | t3_kd5f6 | null | t1_c2jd22n | t1_c2jczde | null | 1427591283 | 21 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Pxtl | null | Can ODBC and JDBC even interact with NoSQL dbs? | null | 0 | 1315857441 | False | 0 | c2jd2ci | t3_kd5f6 | null | t1_c2jd2ci | t1_c2jboac | null | 1427591288 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | The cases are different. It's very straight-forward to move from hotmail to gmail, and there was a huge reward at the time: 2gb of storage! It was unheard of at the time. Search just worked, and google maps had better usability than competitors.
Another language is creating another standard on the web. You need people to get on-board with it, it needs to make sense to do all the work to master another language, and it needs to make sense to start writing code in this language.
There's huge hurdles to over-come, it's not even a matter of building something that's "better", but dealing with all of these things.
Google wave was vaporous and didn't make sense to get in on. Google + doesn't have anyone I care about on it, buzz didn't even interest me in joining. | null | 0 | 1315857452 | False | 0 | c2jd2el | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jd2el | t1_c2jclzv | null | 1427591297 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | > real systems programming language
What are you suggesting that you cannot do with Go that you can with C++? | null | 0 | 1315857507 | False | 0 | c2jd2pw | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jd2pw | t1_c2jcuk3 | null | 1427591294 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | littleendian | null | Interesting, we insist it gets fixed rather than back out the change. Not sure I have a preference so long as it doesn't stay broken for long. | null | 0 | 1315857544 | False | 0 | c2jd2xb | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2jd2xb | t1_c2jc976 | null | 1427591301 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rizla7 | null | its not so much about what dart **does**, but what dart **is**. it isn't a scripting language. so anyone who believes this is meant to replace **just** javascript is sorely off the mark. | null | 0 | 1315857568 | False | 0 | c2jd31o | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jd31o | t1_c2jbnpp | null | 1427591298 | -5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | And the moment that the wind changes direction Google will drop this project like they have so many others. | null | 0 | 1315857594 | False | 0 | c2jd36j | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jd36j | t3_kcwx2 | null | 1427591300 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ceolceol | null | Are there any reasons to use MySQL over PostgreSQL? I'm a MySQL user just from when I was learning PHP, but I'd love to get into PostgreSQL for my Python applications. | null | 0 | 1315857631 | True | 0 | c2jd3df | t3_kd0x9 | null | t1_c2jd3df | t1_c2jcgfz | null | 1427591302 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cpearce | null | The cross-compiler is also one of the most insidious things they're doing. Google are already using non-standard Chrome-only features on their web properties (like using WebSQL to implement offline mail viewing in Gmail, when IndexedDB is the *actual* standard implemented by other major browsers) in order to "encourage" people to switch to Chrome. Presumably the compiled-to-JS code will be slower than normal JS. Now with non-Dart compliant browsers getting a second-tier experience in Google properties, people will have more reason to switch to Chrome. | null | 0 | 1315857631 | False | 0 | c2jd3di | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jd3di | t1_c2ja3mt | null | 1427591302 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | pnpbios | null | So instead of embrace, extend, extinguish, you are worried about beta, public, omnipresence? | null | 0 | 1315857812 | False | 0 | c2jd4au | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jd4au | t1_c2jd3di | null | 1427591312 | 12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Saivo | null | Hey hey, don't diss Mark Jacobs. DAoC was hilariously unbalanced for a long time (roughly the time that I spent playing it, incidentally). | null | 0 | 1315857901 | False | 0 | c2jd4sh | t3_kctmn | null | t1_c2jd4sh | t1_c2jauqa | null | 1427591318 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | myliverhatesme | null | That seems like a very practical problem, especially with the popularity of social networking site these days. | null | 0 | 1315857974 | False | 0 | c2jd577 | t3_kcf1k | null | t1_c2jd577 | t1_c2j523k | null | 1427591323 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1315858122 | False | 0 | c2jd5yj | t3_kaxjq | null | t1_c2jd5yj | t1_c2jb20e | null | 1427591336 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | pnpbios | null | it's byte code interpreted, just like every other non-compiled language. | null | 0 | 1315858153 | False | 0 | c2jd645 | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jd645 | t1_c2jd31o | null | 1427591344 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Caraes_Naur | null | > ... recreating the midichlorians of the original MMORPG!
FTFY | null | 0 | 1315858179 | False | 0 | c2jd692 | t3_kctmn | null | t1_c2jd692 | t3_kctmn | null | 1427591339 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rizla7 | null | that's the problem. it isn't better because it isn't the correct tool for the job. its not a scripting language but an entire framework for developing web apps, we already have a bunch of those, of which dotnet is the most prominent. so the only thing this can be is an attempt to attack dotnet. its been a common theme amongst the linux community. dotnet is a threat. period. | null | 0 | 1315858192 | False | 0 | c2jd6b6 | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jd6b6 | t1_c2jbovq | null | 1427591348 | -9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | macrk | null | Ahh okay. Somebody else made a hubbub about the same thing, so I wanted to make sure. | null | 0 | 1315858203 | False | 0 | c2jd6dq | t3_kctmn | null | t1_c2jd6dq | t1_c2jbbqu | null | 1427591348 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | NoMoreNicksLeft | null | Haha. Yeh, I think there's an email to me in my inbox from you on that subject from about 2 years ago.
Shame though, I could do some really cool stuff with that. | null | 0 | 1315858435 | False | 0 | c2jd7kk | t3_kd0x9 | null | t1_c2jd7kk | t1_c2jcwtf | null | 1427591357 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | javacodegeeks | null | Prior throwing accusations about Java Code Geeks "stealing" content, you should learn how to read!
The original author is a JCG (Java Code Geek - http://www.javacodegeeks.com/p/jcg.html) - as clearly stated at the end of the article - thus is part of a Java developer community that is committed to share their knowledge and experiences so as to help each other. As with all of our JCG members we have granted full privilege to republish and promote every article they write that we believe is valuable to the rest of the JCG community.
Furthermore we (the Java Code Geeks community founders) are Java developers ourselves and have contributed first (and still contributing) with high quality articles. That is the reason that we do not want to simply maintain a link aggregator site but a site that will host the most valuable content for the Java developers community.
On top of that by submitting the link pointing to the reposted article (hosted on Java Code Geeks) and not the one pointing to the original author's blog we promote not only the specific author's work but the work of all the Java Code Geeks community; since our site is the entry point for them all. That is our obligation towards all of our JCG members!
As far as content duplication is concerned I just wanted to pinpoint that in the majority of cases we do not just copy and paste content; We perform lexical and syntactical corrections (since many of our JCG partners do not speak English as their prime language) along with article and code snippets formatting so as every article to be as readable as it can be.
I hope I covered all your doubts about Java Code Geeks. | null | 0 | 1315858497 | True | 0 | c2jd7x4 | t3_kda7w | null | t1_c2jd7x4 | t1_c2jd18d | null | 1427591360 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | jeff_hanson | null | Not one. | null | 0 | 1315858542 | False | 0 | c2jd867 | t3_kd0x9 | null | t1_c2jd867 | t1_c2jd3df | null | 1427591362 | 13 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | MrEvilPants | null | Scumbag SOE,
Creates melee classes...
Gives ranged classes knockdown...
I've very bitter and harbor a lot of anger toward this game. | null | 0 | 1315858547 | False | 0 | c2jd872 | t3_kctmn | null | t1_c2jd872 | t3_kctmn | null | 1427591362 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1315858688 | False | 0 | c2jd8us | t3_kd0x9 | null | t1_c2jd8us | t1_c2jd867 | null | 1427591372 | -3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Tiwazz | null | Or other vendors will have a reason to implement Dart support... which is what Google seems to be going for.
Ref: http://markmail.org/message/uro3jtoitlmq6x7t (Search for lingua franca) | null | 0 | 1315858792 | False | 0 | c2jd9gl | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jd9gl | t1_c2jd3di | null | 1427591380 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | nascent | null | DMD is great example of this, Phobos too. Sadly there isn't any good graphs to point to that show such increase. Ohloh just mentions increased yearly to year development. | null | 0 | 1315858878 | False | 0 | c2jd9vu | t3_kaxjq | null | t1_c2jd9vu | t1_c2iws6s | null | 1427591385 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | adavies42 | null | must...resist...urge...to...downvote...for...stupid...title.... | null | 0 | 1315859004 | False | 0 | c2jdak0 | t3_kd31e | null | t1_c2jdak0 | t3_kd31e | null | 1427591399 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | merlinm | null | well, one reason would be if you just had to have an application which was mysql only (but really, these days that's just asking for trouble). another reason would be if you needed an uber thin sql layer where statement latency is the only interesting metric -- that's what mysql/myisam is essentially. in the old days, replication was a commonly cited reason but postgres HS/SR is as good as or better than anything mysql has to offer.
Consider:
* [you can write your backend routines in python](http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/interactive/plpython.html)
* all SQL, (including create/alter table, etc) is transactional. think about that.
* [the incredibly rich type system](http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/interactive/datatype.html) -- and you can [build your own](http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/interactive/sql-createtype.html)
* [The richness of indexing, including GIST, GIN, partial, and concurrent building](http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/interactive/sql-createindex.html)
I could go on and on...there is so much under the hood and it all beautifully works together...
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True | [deleted] | null | This might be a reference to the .NET CLR, which interprets CIL bytecode generated by C#, VB.NET, etc. compilers. The OP's point is valid, he's just being obtuse. | null | 0 | 1315859066 | False | 0 | c2jdavr | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jdavr | t1_c2jckgh | null | 1427591403 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rosetta_stoned | null | > I could never get cedet to parse headers properly. I gave up a long time ago, hopefully it's improved.
It's still some way from being done, which is why I expressed the hope that the next version of Emacs will focus on getting it done. If Emacs is to be taken seriously as a programming editor these days, it's going to need tools like this. | null | 0 | 1315859148 | False | 0 | c2jdbah | t3_kbz68 | null | t1_c2jdbah | t1_c2ja0cl | null | 1427591411 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | chrisdoner | null | My colleagues would just revert the commit (and revert the production), and tell me to fix it. | null | 0 | 1315859159 | False | 0 | c2jdbcw | t3_kczbt | null | t1_c2jdbcw | t1_c2jc748 | null | 1427591413 | 40 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | But it fragments the web. We need one standard, not multiple! | null | 0 | 1315859176 | False | 0 | c2jdbg3 | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jdbg3 | t1_c2jbntl | null | 1427591414 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | fuck_google | null | I'm not surprised. Reddit is full of corporate cocksuckers and shills that have google's dick jammed down their throat.
1 - It is known google employees spend their time online on major tech blogs and forums. A lot of them have accounts on reddit. Any submission or comment that portrays google in a negative light gets instantly downvoted.
2 - Reddit is also full of functionally retarded neckbeards. They have never lived IRL and only know about computers being the aspies fucking retards that they are. They don't realize google is a corporation and is using heavy PR to influence them. They use the hurr durr "its open guise" bullshit to try to trick everyone. It's sad a group of people who think they are so smart can't see through this shit.
3 - Any other company trying this, and the fucking loser neckbeards would have their pitchforks out in a heartbeat spouting their bullshit "they're evil" mantra. Miraculously, it never applies to the shitstain of a company known as google. | null | 0 | 1315859217 | False | 0 | c2jdbnk | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jdbnk | t1_c2jbjbc | null | 1427591416 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | jad3d | null | Step 4, the server verifies the auth_response sent by the client: BASE16( SHA1_HMAC( nonce, passhash ) ) == auth_response
passhash = hash(username, password)
This implies server is storing the password. | null | 0 | 1315859242 | False | 0 | c2jdbsw | t3_kddqn | null | t1_c2jdbsw | t3_kddqn | null | 1427591416 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | nascent | null | Tiobe doesn't mean much and it most certainly doesn't mean usage.
While also having little meaning at least this is just numbers, Ohloh has actual [line/commit/committer counts](http://www.ohloh.net/languages/32) numbers for a language. | null | 0 | 1315859302 | False | 0 | c2jdc5j | t3_kaxjq | null | t1_c2jdc5j | t1_c2ixbf0 | null | 1427591419 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | solinent | null | I'm a bit late here, but I doubt anyone else except for you will read this, anyways :).
I agree with everything you said in that post. I like how easily lisp maps onto the lambda calculus, but extending the language to something like haskell to be more readable is very desirable, in my opinion. I don't like python very much for some reason, I think my main reason is how scope is handled. I haven't used it that considerably, though.
I've always heard that lisp contains less vertical space, but maybe I should attempt to prove this conjecture. I do remember reading something to the effect of how lines was the best measure of complexity we have (ie. lines are no better than the other complexity measures we have thought to come up for other languages), there was some study, but I can't cite it unfortunately. So that would prove me wrong if it applied to many languages, but I doubt it would. It may in practice, though.
I think we've digressed too far from the original topic anyways--I think a more reasonable conclusion is that syntax is desirable, and using syntax other than parenthesis is very useful for humans when reading code. Perhaps too much syntax can create hard-to-read code (perl would be most people's example), but perhaps this is not a problem of grammar or syntax, but of semantics. At any rate, there is a whole cultural and humanistic issue here, and I'm not good at analyzing either, so I guess I will stop here. | null | 0 | 1315859444 | False | 0 | c2jdcyh | t3_k8w37 | null | t1_c2jdcyh | t1_c2ikb8v | null | 1427591426 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | stesch | null | > Yes, because Google, one of the largest companies in the world, can only do one thing at a time.
It looks like it. Google+ is standing still, besides some minor cosmetic fixes.
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True | [deleted] | null | I only sue them in development, it keeps things more drawn out and complicated. | null | 0 | 1315859685 | False | 0 | c2jde8m | t3_kcvv3 | null | t1_c2jde8m | t1_c2japhr | null | 1427591451 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Yeah. I thought they were talking about the ads replacing JS. Throughly confused at first.
It's pretty obvious that google doesn't think about names before they choose them. Either that, or the developers are completely clueless to their own properties. | null | 0 | 1315859705 | False | 0 | c2jdeca | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jdeca | t1_c2jaacr | null | 1427591455 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | systay | null | That works to. The revert a commit is something I used when the team has a problem staying green. Revert the problem, and let that dev take as much time as he/she needs to sort it out properly.
It's all good, as long as I don't have to use TFS. | null | 0 | 1315859752 | False | 0 | c2jdekp | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2jdekp | t1_c2jd2xb | null | 1427591453 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | CalvinR | null | Whatever it's their money if they want to spend it on developing a new language I say more power to them. Especially if it ends up being better then Javascript.
Sure wave and buzz sucked but they mighty not have. For every successful product there are thousands of failed ones.
Anyways I don't see why we should discredit this before it's even been released. | null | 0 | 1315859768 | False | 0 | c2jdenz | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jdenz | t1_c2jd2el | null | 1427591454 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | sangnoir | null | They also own Youtube - they could wreak absolute havok in the online-video space (which they dominate) | null | 0 | 1315859784 | False | 0 | c2jdeqw | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2jdeqw | t1_c2jan93 | null | 1427591455 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | frezik | null | Cloud Computing taught me that there is good money to be made in mystifying straightforward ideas. | null | 0 | 1315859866 | False | 0 | c2jdf6r | t3_kd1nr | null | t1_c2jdf6r | t3_kd1nr | null | 1427591459 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | HenkPoley | null | Is that finnish? | null | 0 | 1315859867 | False | 0 | c2jdf73 | t3_k7qvj | null | t1_c2jdf73 | t1_c2j10mm | null | 1427591459 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | itaborai83 | null | setUpOwnDemise
tearDownEgo | null | 0 | 1315859887 | False | 0 | c2jdfb6 | t3_kczbt | null | t1_c2jdfb6 | t1_c2jc210 | null | 1427591460 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | kisielk | null | Thanks for the great tutorials Bartosz. I don't normally like watching videos on programming but I've really been enjoying this series. | null | 0 | 1315859890 | False | 0 | c2jdfbn | t3_kd88g | null | t1_c2jdfbn | t3_kd88g | null | 1427591461 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | davebrk | null | If you are using CoffeeScript you can't really complain about Dart. | null | 0 | 1315859960 | False | 0 | c2jdfpx | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jdfpx | t1_c2ja98z | null | 1427591473 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | jsantos17 | null | Larry didn't sue anybody. Java was property of Sun until the previous year. The article you linked is from 2002. Also, Java was created 7 years before .NET. If anything .NET was created to compete with Java. In fact, there are still people out there who claim .NET is not more than a Java rip-off. Seriously, go read about the stuff you're talking about, you look retarded.
Java is nowhere near dead either. I'm willing to bet that Java deployment outnumber .NET deployments 2 to 1. Java is very, very popular on the enterprise, and due to it will continue to thrive for decades (the same as Cobol right now). | null | 0 | 1315860029 | True | 0 | c2jdg2t | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jdg2t | t1_c2jaszz | null | 1427591478 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | TheJames69 | null | Yes please, I've been waiting for years for this project to finish and it never seems to make progress | null | 0 | 1315860083 | False | 0 | c2jdgca | t3_kctmn | null | t1_c2jdgca | t3_kctmn | null | 1427591480 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | TheJames69 | null | SWG was an awesome sandbox mmo, TOR is going to be cool but it's essentially modeled after WoW | null | 0 | 1315860213 | False | 0 | c2jdgs7 | t3_kctmn | null | t1_c2jdgs7 | t1_c2jbamq | null | 1427591483 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cafedude | null | It's cool that you can do this... But, I'm not sure why you'd want to disable first class functions for beginners? Wouldn't you want them to learn those pretty early on? | null | 0 | 1315860216 | False | 0 | c2jdgtl | t3_kbt85 | null | t1_c2jdgtl | t3_kbt85 | null | 1427591483 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Nuli | null | What's the complexity then? And the size of the team? If the problem is well defined three months could see a very large code base written. | null | 0 | 1315860270 | False | 0 | c2jdh3p | t3_kczbt | null | t1_c2jdh3p | t1_c2jcycg | null | 1427591486 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Nuli | null | I try not to rewrite things at all unless it offers some real form of pain. I had to refactor a relatively small subsystem recently, only about 1K LOC, and it still took the better part of two weeks to completely understand it and redesign it. I hate going to all that effort if it's not a part of the code base I'm ever really going to see. | null | 0 | 1315860383 | False | 0 | c2jdhoe | t3_kczbt | null | t1_c2jdhoe | t1_c2jcsh7 | null | 1427591490 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | jsantos17 | null | Except mobiles with .NET are a tiny speck of the market. The mobile market is dominated by Apple and Google, none of them run .NET. | null | 0 | 1315860521 | False | 0 | c2jdidg | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jdidg | t1_c2janoz | null | 1427591496 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | creasetoph | null | well done, be prepared for many other SUCCESSes. Programming is a fun and exciting world. | null | 0 | 1315860541 | False | 0 | c2jdigz | t3_kdgcy | null | t1_c2jdigz | t3_kdgcy | null | 1427591497 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | sanity | null | I wasn't. | null | 0 | 1315860541 | False | 0 | c2jdih0 | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jdih0 | t1_c2jdfpx | null | 1427591497 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1315860612 | False | 0 | c2jdiu6 | t3_kchtc | null | t1_c2jdiu6 | t3_kchtc | null | 1427591502 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ixid | null | Perhaps this is my programming novice naivete but shouldn't a professional project have an agreed approach to layout and conceptual design that means this sort of rewrite is unnecessary? Everyone should be trying to work in a group or organisational style which makes it easy to predict how it will be laid out so different programmers can work on unfamiliar bits of the code and no one should be wasting time on assholish rewrites like this. | null | 0 | 1315860646 | False | 0 | c2jdj1w | t3_kczbt | null | t1_c2jdj1w | t3_kczbt | null | 1427591515 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | sangnoir | null | Maybe Google thinks technology evolves much faster this way? Design-by-committee isn't really known for it's rapidity (when will HTML5 be finalized?).
Google does subvert people's expectations when it comes to its approach to 'Open' (open Standard/open source -vis a vis Android): people expect an open (standard/-source project) to be developed in the open; if you think about it, it's not necesarily true. You can have a closed process and an open Standard /open Source project at the end of it.
IMO all the allusions to Microsoft/IE are BS. (a slightly better allusion would be the perversion as OOXML. still not quite accurate though) | null | 0 | 1315860677 | False | 0 | c2jdj7k | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2jdj7k | t1_c2j8rpb | null | 1427591512 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | I love it! | null | 0 | 1315860756 | False | 0 | c2jdjn3 | t3_kdgcy | null | t1_c2jdjn3 | t1_c2jdigz | null | 1427591516 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | 0xABADC0DA | null | No control over memory layout.
Can't replace the allocator.
No pointer math.
No RAII (not even a preprocessor to hack it).
No templates let alone generics.
Required runtime/startup overhead (building vtables at runtime, bounds checks).
...etc
You're going to write a kernel and can't even change the garbage collector implementation? Yeah, right. Hell Java is even closer to C++ than Google Go is. | null | 0 | 1315860809 | False | 0 | c2jdjxa | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jdjxa | t1_c2jd2pw | null | 1427591519 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | pnpbios | null | lol, we're already talking about javascript. | null | 0 | 1315860958 | False | 0 | c2jdkov | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2jdkov | t1_c2j45o0 | null | 1427591539 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ragaragi | null | While a team is divided into responsibilities, there is no I in team.
In a zoned defense, the defender has responsibility for a zone, but that does not mean he is isolated from the team. He forms a part of a cohesive whole. He plays a part of a defensive strategy and has to coordinate with the o ther defenders. He has to coordinate with the offense to know what passing lanes are open and where the offense players are supposed to be.
When I see "turf" , I think "ball hog" or "glory hog". And like Kobe or LeBron, are caustic to team cohesion and ultimately effectiveness. There's a reason why the Bulls owned the 90s. Jordan was a leader, and guys like Pippen had their responsilities, but they all knew they played on a team. | null | 0 | 1315861160 | False | 0 | c2jdlqj | t3_kczbt | null | t1_c2jdlqj | t1_c2jcgy3 | null | 1427591544 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | artsrc | null | > Or sometimes I just want an array of numbers...
You mean numeric indexes. Fair enough.
> Anyways, not everyone has the luxury of working in high level languages with no regards to memory.
I agree that there can be overheads from the higher level abstractions.
I think a compiler can translate simple higher level array abstractions to numbers with little overhead in memory. Look at coffeescript for example. It translates to JavaScript numeric indexes from higher level constructs.
I think the larger overhead is the complexity of the abstraction itself.
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True | [deleted] | null | I tried to explain this to coworkers today. Didn't go over well.
Bonus: I watched this happen to a customer 2 weeks ago | null | 0 | 1315861214 | False | 0 | c2jdm0f | t3_kd0x9 | null | t1_c2jdm0f | t1_c2jbacr | null | 1427591547 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | nascent | null | It isn't perfect, but at least they are real numbers:
[Contributors](http://www.ohloh.net/languages/compare?measure=contributors&percent=true&l0=dmd&l1=scala&l2=haskell&l3=-1&commit=Update)
[Projects](http://www.ohloh.net/languages/compare?measure=projects&percent=true&l0=dmd&l1=scala&l2=haskell&l3=-1&commit=Update) | null | 0 | 1315861222 | False | 0 | c2jdm1p | t3_kaxjq | null | t1_c2jdm1p | t1_c2j84io | null | 1427591548 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Cintax | null | You miss the point entirely. One is a **change** and the other is an **addition**. They are incomparable. You cannot say one is more significant, difficult, or major than the other one, because they are not the same situation. | null | 0 | 1315861227 | False | 0 | c2jdm2j | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jdm2j | t1_c2jc2qv | null | 1427591548 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | KingEllis | null | This quote made me LOL.
"Don’t get me wrong though, it wasn’t all smooth sailing: at one stage during the development of the project, I took it upon myself to refactor the entire thing."
The only thing funnier I have seen today is googling "cat parkour". | null | 0 | 1315861241 | False | 0 | c2jdm5h | t3_kczbt | null | t1_c2jdm5h | t3_kczbt | null | 1427591548 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Caraes_Naur | null | Personally, I'd rather see Python or Lua embedded in browsers alongside JS, rather than a whole new language. | null | 0 | 1315861261 | False | 0 | c2jdm8a | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jdm8a | t3_kcwx2 | null | 1427591550 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | CrudOMatic | null | So, we have moved from the browser wars (where browser makers extend web standards (e.g. Microsoft & ActiveX, and specialty tags like marquee) and goad people into using them as an incentive to use only THEIR browser, to the Scripting wars... where Google wants their own scripting environment that only THEY can innovate on.
Then they expect others to use their shit with no input...
They changed the tactics (every browser maker can use it), but kept the idea the same (it's THEIR baby, and only they have say in how it works)
We REALLY don't need this Google. We don't need yet ANOTHER layer of shit to go through. What is so damaged about JS that can't be fixed by tightening some screws and providing a backwards compatibility layer that can be thrown away eventually? | null | 0 | 1315861266 | False | 0 | c2jdm9d | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jdm9d | t3_kcwx2 | null | 1427591550 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ratatask | null | That change goes against standard SQL, I just hope it does this right. MySQL have since forever allowed you to omit non-aggregated columns in group by clauses, silently, and I have forever had to fix wrongly written queries. It's just bad when your DB throws you back wrong results, cause you didn't write the queries in proper SQL, but hopefully PostgreSQL figures it out.
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True | ninjaroach | null | Wow, why on earth would Oracle want things to be this way?
As an aside, I don't really care for OpenJDK and generally swap it out for the Sun/Oracle version any time I built a box. I understand the value in pushing truly open source software, but I've always been slightly annoyed with my distro for forcing me to manually make the change.
Now none of this matters, because Oracle is doing the best damn job they can to kill Java and anyone using it. | null | 0 | 1315861386 | False | 0 | c2jdmvb | t3_kcvv3 | null | t1_c2jdmvb | t3_kcvv3 | null | 1427591554 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | nullsucks | null | Reverting the commit is absolutely the correct response to that sort of thing. I see that this was a project for students or interns, so the rest of his team probably didn't have the experience to deal with this properly. | null | 0 | 1315861429 | False | 0 | c2jdn2p | t3_kczbt | null | t1_c2jdn2p | t1_c2jdbcw | null | 1427591557 | 29 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | djork | null | tl;dr only store input
Kidding aside: I love this paper, and think it would make a really great basis for a software system, but I'm not (and nobody else is, apparently) brave enough to try. Although, I'm toying with an approach in Clojure that uses a single system state value and persists only inputs to the system. That basically covers two out of three parts of OotTP. | null | 0 | 1315861495 | False | 0 | c2jdnei | t3_kc6bw | null | t1_c2jdnei | t3_kc6bw | null | 1427591561 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | roerd | null | It isn't really the language that supports multiple versions in this case though. It's your OS that's capable of running different versions of the Python interpreter at the same time. | null | 0 | 1315861528 | False | 0 | c2jdnko | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jdnko | t1_c2jcw1o | null | 1427591565 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | CarolusMagnus | null | > it's quite another to demand that they build and maintain browser-specific extensions when there are no widely implemented web standards
I wouldn't be bitter about it if they hadn't already done just that for several years. I was a happy user of Gears until they yanked it, and I won't use Chrome just to get an inferior subset of their former supported features with the only added "feature" of imitating a retarded iDevice UI...
(Of course, I know... You get what you pay for, especially in webmail. But I used to trust Google to get tech right - since Chrome I cannot assume that.) | null | 0 | 1315861596 | False | 0 | c2jdnx0 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2jdnx0 | t1_c2j7mf6 | null | 1427591569 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | marssaxman | null | Yes, it's true, and it's just as painful as it sounds. | null | 0 | 1315861603 | False | 0 | c2jdnyg | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2jdnyg | t1_c2jbwpw | null | 1427591569 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Just to play devils advocate, shouldn't the compiler worry about all that? | null | 0 | 1315861647 | False | 0 | c2jdo6b | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jdo6b | t1_c2jdjxa | null | 1427591572 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cdsmith | null | I'd suggest that they either release 2.0 and admit they are changing the major version number... or release version 1.10 if they don't want to do so. Claiming that they had to release 2.0 just because that's 1.8 + 0.2 just makes them look silly. | null | 0 | 1315861660 | False | 0 | c2jdo8v | t3_kd5f6 | null | t1_c2jdo8v | t1_c2jczde | null | 1427591573 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | > Anyways I don't see why we should discredit this before it's even been released.
Because I'm responding to this with emotional bias rather than logical reasons? | null | 0 | 1315861721 | False | 0 | c2jdoki | t3_kcwx2 | null | t1_c2jdoki | t1_c2jdenz | null | 1427591577 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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