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Sc4Freak
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> The problem is I cannot use COM without the C++/CX extensions. Yes you can. Step 1. Remove the /Zw compiler switch. Step 2. There is no step 2. Now you just use plain COM *like you normally do*, in standard ISO C++. Because it's pre-beta software, there are large sections of WinRT that's missing documentation - the WRL is one of them. We'll probably see the documentation later once they hit beta. But you don't even have to use the WRL if you don't want to. You can just use plain old COM, like people have been doing for years!
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a_redditor
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Please do not post stupid memes to /r/programming.
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eaturbrainz
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Wait, you're Matthias Felleisen? On Reddit?
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xiongchiamiov
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So I can hide it! > If Java was in the title, I could just [hide] and continue on. Silly goose, downvoting articles you don't click through kills reddit.
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oldrinb
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So it's cons for JavaScript?
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skew
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No more than head :: [a] -> a "violates" the list type constructor. It's like string* f(vector<string*>* strs) { return strs->at(0); } not string* g(vector<string*>* strs) { return (string*)strs; } (well, maybe closer to something that returns a fragile iterator, but still on the more-or-less sane side of things).
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twopoint718
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Yup. This is an amazing conference.
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rawlyn
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My apologies - there's nothing coming through for me here so I assumed a dead link. Downvote for being a total cocksucker about it though.
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Pxtl
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There's performance and there's performance. You issue a LINQ query with too many joins and performance goes into the absolute crapper - I'm talking dynamic-compile-times in *minutes*. To work around this, you need to use the static precompiled query approach, and that means losing a lot of expressive power.
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ErrorX
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I was a dick and I will accept your downvote. My apologies as well.
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JMV290
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>Programming to a closed source API is retarded. Isn't Win32 closed source?
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s73v3r
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>Programming to a closed source API is retarded. Unless programming to said closed source API gets you the monies. >Android does suck a bit, but at least you can look at the source if you have a bug or crash. iOS your just stuck and you can only hope that it will be resolved years later. And? Are you gonna be able to fix it? No. You can try to submit a patch, but in the meantime, you're still stuck in the same position: There is a bug in the API of version X of your target platform. You still have to work around it.
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comment-dwim
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You could say that Lua has no inheritance model at all. It's just designed to make it easy to model prototype-based OO with tables.
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rmxz
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I programmed [this one from iCompression](http://www.thefreelibrary.com/iCOMPRESSION+DEMONSTRATES+TECHNOLOGICAL+LEADERSHIP+WITH+INDUSTRY%27S...-a020863011) for a while. > iCOMPRESSION ... industry's first single-chip MPEG-2 video, audio and system encoder. ... high-performance processor cores capable of *executing Java Virtual Machine instructions* and DSP functions.
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s73v3r
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>So if we accept these terms as reasonable, and they remain reasonably unchanged over time, there being more iOS developers than Android developers would in fact be a very, very strange thing. It wouldn't if consumer usage of iOS was far higher than Android usage. It used to be that way. I'm not implying in any way that it is now. However, if consumer usage of iOS was far higher than that of Android, that would mean that there would be much more opportunity on iOS than on Android, and so more developers would be drawn to iOS. Again, not saying that's how it is today, just saying that's how iOS developers could outnumber Android developers.
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s73v3r
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They misrepresented what that means. They showed that Stack Overflow usage for Android overtook iOS. You can't really draw any conclusions about popularity for either platform from that data.
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s73v3r
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>It very clearly labels the graph as "popularity". And they can't make that conclusion. The only conclusion they can make is that Android gets talked about more on Stack Overflow than iOS.
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s73v3r
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[Citation Needed]
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s73v3r
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False dichotomy. I'd prefer they make an API that's easy to develop for.
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s73v3r
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>The problem I have is that Visual Studio's compliance with C++11 is absolutely horrendous If that was even finalized, it was done so in the last few weeks. Definitely not enough time to get that support into a demo build for their conference.
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s73v3r
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It would make sense that if they're distributing code samples, they'd want to use as many of their features as possible.
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s73v3r
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Yes, that would be nice. It would also take forever to do that, and separate libraries for every other language they'd like to support.
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benihana
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These are graciously hosted and recorded by the school of textiles at NCSU, which was also where the event was held.
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stoph
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Definitely DHTML. Let me go check and see if there are any codes to paste into my site with this effect.
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Ragas
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Jup still my favorite kind of algorithm.
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dsfox
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I like "Javascript: just the good parts" because it explains how to not use all these crazy features.
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day_cq
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so, what's wrong with foo.doSomething() for all your cases?
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timothyjwood
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TL:DC(lick) If you click the first link in any wikipedia article that isn't italicized or in parentheses you'll end up at Philosophy. I tried it myself and it led there between 14 and 30 pages with a sample size of 19 (random articles). I could run the statistics to map it (although I'd welcome help or someone from a different statistical background). But it could be fun to generate 1k or so instances of this using the "random article" link and see how it maps out. It's almost certainly not universal. Some links somewhere have to lead to loops that avoid Philosophy, and the trend seems to be to link to science and therefor to set yourself on a path that inevitably reaches Philosophy. I just think it'd be interesting.
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notSorella
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Dart/Dash.
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thorlord
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wait, they have a problem, offer to bypass their systems to get you an account. you refuse and then whine when you still cant do it? sounds like their support is just fine...
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KarmaPiniata
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I never really 'got' JavaScript until I read [JavaScript Patterns](http://www.amazon.com/JavaScript-Patterns-Stoyan-Stefanov/dp/0596806752) ... now its my language of choice for fun projects ;)
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andrewmac
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Is that a smiling turd pile?
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Congratulations. I believe this is the first time I've ever seen someone downvoted for claiming that Vista wasn't very good.
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adolfojp
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The guy signs his support request with a WTF, gets a polite and helpful response, refuses the help, and then publishes a blog post about how DZone has the worst support ever. I facepalmed the moment that I read that. That's when I assumed that the purpose of this thread was to make fun of him. What a class act. But the part that I love the most is that he combines his professional website with a website dedicated to his wife and with a hearty dose of religion. And the post isn't even related to programming. It's gossip.
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gotnate
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Designed in Japan. 👌
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eaturbrainz
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>First define expressiveness. Then define clarity. Then do it in a way that is programming-background independent. Then realize you have a contradiction. And then you do it anyway and get tenure ;-).
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bdunderscore
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I would argue that this is a _good thing_. SSL may have its flaws, but making it easy to blast through warnings when they are there is inviting ordinary users to ignore those warnings - and if they can ignore a warning, they will.
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arjie
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There is some data that hints towards this. W3 schools sees [5% Linux](http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp), much higher than other sources.
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JL235
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When you give your experience, like 'applications don't scale as well if you use globals', people tend to point out corner cases that disprove it. Adding 'typically' is my way of saying that I'm talking about the general case, as there are always exceptions to the rule.
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I know about 6 billion people who think the ribbon interface is the biggest turd MS has shat out in years.
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bluGill
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> Linux, on the other hand, probably has a much higher percentage of development being done in by virtue of not being popular at all with casual users Actually Linux is far more popular with casual users than windows. People tend to forget that there are computers running linux in things like cars and TVs.
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>Uhhh... because windows servers suck ass? Windows servers are expensive as fuck? And they suck a lot of ass? You know what sucks even more ass? Developing in windows and deploying to linux. >What's so insane about uploading a .dll to my apache server? The mere suggestion is insane. It's beyond insane. It's malfeasance. If I was a shareholder of your company I'd sue.
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bluGill
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Where I work it is the code that has the most money in sales is carefully owned, while the other divisions are more willing to work with each other to get the best possible product.
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bluGill
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Well we have been burned by a legacy code base with a lot of sales that cannot be continued > 90% CPU on obsolete hardware, and the code isn't designed to make porting easy.
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comex
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In your Lisp example, you still need the default behavior of things like parentheses in place to define the syntax for your "real program", which is vaguely equivalent to some interpreter on your system :)
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sclv
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Citation of the article in the intro should actually be: "Can Programming Be Liberated From The Von Neumann Style?" I'd also trace the lineage of FP completely distinctly from Backus. His FP is really more of an applicative APL-style language. FP as we think of it comes from Milner, Landin, etc. and the ML lineage. Of course there's overlap, cross-pollination, etc. The arguments made *against* imperative programming by Backus, however, were pretty influential.
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comex
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Yet the better a program scales, the more lines of code it can support, by definition. (Well, it's really "complexity", and I'll be the first to say that a Java line of code is worth much less than a Haskell line of code, but when you're comparing orders of magnitude, LoC is a decent metric.)
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bysin
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I create classes in C all the time. Just because a language doesn't support the "class" keyword, doesn't make it any less of a class: test_t x = test_new(); test_set(x, 4); test_delete(x); vs. test x = new test; x->set(4); delete x;
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comex
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Sure, that's part of it, but you really don't see a lot of "do-everything" functional programs. Actually, from my limited experience, Haskell programs tend to focus on doing one thing well, which is great (I much prefer using small programs) but doesn't really support the argument that functional programs can be huge. I guess Cabal as a whole is a pretty good example-- collectively it's pretty huge, and Haskell programs are known for picking and choosing many little bits from it...
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ColoSapling
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OP is probably the blogger, fishing for blog hits in this crazy new "social media" stuff. He's an internet pro.
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fyi, that fat guy is john resig, the creator of jquery and generally a wizard.
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munificent
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> I think most people who take their time to learn the prototypical pattern, or delve more into JS would rather not have classical OO again I hear that a lot, but I rarely see actual JS code that uses prototypes in a way that wouldn't work just as well with classes. Do you have any examples (outside of jslint)?
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ivosaurus
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They say the way to a programmer's heart is through open-sourcing awesome projects...
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The author of that blog post didn't account for the fact that Apple developers tend to use Apple's mailing lists and support forums. Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com has been around since 1996 or so, and nearly every registered developer subscribes to the list.
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repsilat
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`std::deque` can be implemented in a number of ways. If you're clever about keeping constant-time random access the above description could fit. Otherwise you could just use a circular buffer, or a regular old vector allocated from the middle. To be honest, the fancy data structure sounds like more effort than it's worth, especially in the common "n is small" case.
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jib
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Upvoted. I'm tired of seeing not-programming-nazis mindlessly quoting the "If there is no code in your link, it probably doesn't belong here" rule on interesting and relevant articles.
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random_ramdomness_4
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A little bit late but perhaps it's usefull for someone that will read this in the future, paste in the address bar: javascript:$(window).keydown(function(a){a.keyCode==39?window.location.hash in{"":0,"#90":0}?window.location.hash="#1":$("#next").click():a.keyCode==37&&(window.location.hash=="#1"||$("#prev").click())});
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xiongchiamiov
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And potential bosses can look at the actual code you've produced, rather than just getting some reflection of the quality of your work from a final product.
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shieldforyoureyes
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I really need to go back and shoot a better photo of that.
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ctrldavid
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Translating his code into javascript runs in about 140ms in chrome. I've slowed it down a bit so it doesn't rape your comp, but this is what the algorithm looks like: http://jsfiddle.net/ctrlfrk/zThj5/7/
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a_redditor
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Can we save the editorializing for the comments section please?
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mantra
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And Adobe Acrobat is just Postscript with a wrapper.
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I think Microsoft may have decided to drive the majority of their programmer base into the ground with Windows 8. And don't even get me started on using a tablet UI on a desktop. What the fuck. They need to revert some of this shit fast. EDIT: To correct, I was not ranting about the API. I mean, COM sucks on it's own grounds, but the thing I was complaining about is how PC develpers will generally hate a walled garden and that entire style of environment.
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Which is the definition of the word popularity. Thanks for confirming what I said.
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The only thing it says is that the popularity of the term increases. I draw no real inferences from this data, except to say "yep, android is more popular on stackoverflow than ios now. See this nifty graph to show when it became more popular?" Nobody told you to assume anything else from this information.
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danielkza
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How is the possibility of making significant amounts of money using one of multiple, very popular languages (and possibly any language at all since it's pretty much just COM) "driving into the ground"? It is a significantly better proposition than Apple's or Android's where you're pretty much forced to use Objective-C or Java, respectively, if you want to get anything done at all.
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LorenVS
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I agree that the choice to make a tablet UI the default on a desktop OS is suboptimal for us power-users. However, remember that the audience who is pissed off about this choice is the same audience who is going to have a very easy time switching the default UI (which I'm 100% there will be an option to do) to the classic Windows experiences. With that in mind, I am judging Windows 8's Metro UI on what it was designed for: single display, touch-based systems, and I really think the metro UI delivers on that. In addition, while some of the initial choices in WinRT made me unhappy. I'm coming to appreciate the choice that Microsoft is giving developers by exposing the same core WinRT APIs to various languages
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I just left a job as a .NET programmer to work as a linux server admin, my timing couldn't have been better.
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Lerc
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Nope. An API should make things possible. If it makes things easier but doesn't allow you to do new things then it's just an abstraction layer.
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Sc4Freak
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> I think Microsoft may have decided to drive the majority of their programmer base into the ground with Windows 8. Uh, how? Microsoft developed the WinRT ABI specifically so it could be used from multiple languages - C#, VB.NET, C++, C, and Javascript.
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washort
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Perhaps the difference is that people have written large-scale systems with some measure of success in C++ (even if those systems are slow, buggy, and hard to maintain). Forth seems in many cases to prevent people from being able to think about large-scale systems.
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xon_xoff
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> If you can't create a string then I doubt your application is even capable of displaying an error message. This is not always the case -- it's possible that the reason for the failure is an unreasonably large request. Furthermore, if that request can be controlled externally, an unchecked allocation might be exploitable: an attacker can force allocation failure and then use the NULL pointer to access absolute addresses. I agree that your app is probably dead in the water if a 20 character string alloc fails, but if somehow your code fails to allocate a 100MB string you can absolutely recover from that.
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dubman42
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Nice try Microsoft PR department.
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The main issue is that they're fucking over past developers, limiting the Win32 API and making a fucking walled garden out of the thing. PC programmers tend not to like that. Though COM is awful on it's own grounds.
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LightningTH
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An issue I'm seeing is the horsepower required to run this new OS. Yes, new computers are faster but why should the OS take a majority of the processing power. If they want to move to tablets then it becomes counter-intuitive as you are now eating into the battery life.
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filipf
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The article makes no sense. How is it a .NET switch? WinRT is COM-based... But then the article admits that it's seamless for .NET and C# will most likely be the language in which most WinRT components will be written...
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C0CEFE84C227F7
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So why was "parent" null? Is that a valid condition? Was the fix just to ignore the error (if it was one)?
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happy-dude
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**EDIT:: Look at drudd's [comment](http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/kl5hl/debugging_firefox_7_with_gdb_fixing_the_bug_and/c2l5pi2).** *Everything I said below this unfounded, but I will leave this up for continuity's sake.* From my (very limited) understanding of the post -- someone please fill in the gaps?-- the fix was not to ignore the error. So, the bug was caused by FF launching and then hanging when opening a new tab. From the code comments, // XXX: bug 459640 // There's a binding parent. // This means we're part of another control, so use parent accessible for name. // This ensures that a textbox inside of a XUL widget gets // an accessible name. It seems that parent is needed for certain XUL widgets or something like that. The code here in its original form: nsAccessible* parent = GetParent(); parent->GetName(aName); would return a null pointer because, I'm assuming, there was no parent in the first place (the GetParent() function would return a null). The fix, nsAccessible* parent = GetParent(); if(parent) { parent->GetName(aName); } basically made a check to see if parent exists. If it does, get its name (or something). This is the best part about this blog post. An average programmer that's never seen Firefox's source code could get a grasp of what the author was talking about. It served as a great example of debugging, patching, and (as he later talks about), the free and open source ideal. *NOTE:* I'm assuming a lot about the code, and please forgive me if I got things wrong. Feel free to correct me -- I really appreciate it if you do.
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ytumufugoo
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Sad day when people jump up and down after seeing something the rest of us come to expect, but that's how it rolls when you are hooked on MS tinker toys. The rest will continue to ignore and just get shit done while MS regurgitates instead of innovates.
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skew
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If you think ClassCastException means you don't have a sound type system, you don't know what type theorists mean by soundness. It may be annoying, it may ruin a lot of the things you hope to gain from having a type system, but throwing ClassCastException certainly prevents you from ending up with an object of some class being referred to by a variable with an incompatible type. It's the same with Milner's "Well-typed programs can't go wrong". "wrong" is not a state where the execution rules of your language say to do something annoying like raising a divide by zero exception, "wrong" is reaching a state where the rules of your language don't say anything at all.
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wreckerone
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I've never seen any person higher than dev lead who was qualified to look at code and make a judgement as to its quality. If they knew code they would be devs.
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bobindashadows
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You seem to have become very confused by the thread of conversation. I was responding to someone who said that Java didn't have a "proper" type system because of the existence of escape hatches, namely casting. I was saying that is *not* true.
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khelvaster
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Many people have said this, and I will reiterate: LINQ to Entities solves this problem in C#; the author completely ignores the existence of LINQ or of Entity Framework. LINQ allows you to select certain columns, order by and sort by whatever conditions you want, and more. It does this not just for database context abstractions, but for any data structure. If I want to get information out of any iterable collection, LINQ reduces development time considerably. And ORM allows LINQ to be used on databases/Entity Framework as well.
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eaturbrainz
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Yes, but the only type-safety violation effected by unsafePerformIO is running an I/O action (data built up in the I/O monad) without returning anything in the I/O monad.
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adrenal8
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It's a "SHOULD NOT" in the RFC, but in my experience, every browser sends it. Anyway, that's not important because it's encrypted.
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titirico
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Can someone explain how I might use this on a project? A real world problem/example would be really helpful.
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eaturbrainz
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Well true, but of course, arrays in Java are covariant (when they *really* shouldn't be).
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jones1618
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Well said, so true. ORM is just like all those tools in the early 2000's that promised you can "build a complete e-commerce website in 15 minutes with just a few clicks." It was true until you deviated ever so slightly from the well-marked path. So, if you have a lot of simple classes with 1:1 relationship to tables and all you are doing is CRUD operations on the data, ORM will take away some drudgery. To go beyond that, though, you'll either twist yourself in knots trying to get the ORM framework to do more or you'll inevitably throw it out and build code and SQL to do the job right.
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zck
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Where in the RFC does it say that? I couldn't find it. Also, it still is important -- no middlemen will find out what the Referer is, but the endpoint will.
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SoBoredAtWork
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you're awesome
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Yup, just like Apple. Nothing to see here.
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drudd
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You missed the parent's point entirely. The code fix silently ignores the condition when parent == NULL. From the snippet it's impossible to tell if this is ok. The segfault is fixed, sure, but the code may be in some indeterminate state. It's probably okay here, since you'd expect the side-effects of GetName would be minimal or unimportant, but when you pile up hundreds of fixes like this by people who don't see the big picture, you can end up with a very fragile codebase. If anything I see this story as an example of how more eyes don't actually help but can hurt.
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generalT
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i didn't read anything in that article that would make me, a C# developer, scared or pissed off. can someone enlighten me?
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skew
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> You seem to have become very confused by the thread of conversation. I guess so. Was that *double* sarcasm in "Haskell means you can't write incorrect code"? > I was responding to someone who said that Java didn't have a "proper" type system because of the existence of escape hatches, namely casting. I was saying that is not true. Right. My point is that casting in Java may be an "escape hatch", but it does not violate type safety, not even a little. I see you haven't actually said anything that contradicts that. You did claim unsafePerformIO violates type safety, which it *can* be used to do, but doesn't usually, not even if it's abused to ruin referential transparency like 1 + unsafePerformIO (putStrLn "Hah, a side effect" >> return 2)
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validus77
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I am in the same boat, startups are good fun and you learn a lot. I would not trade the experience for any thing, but my current iBank sure makes life less stressful about bill paying day.
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SickBoy7
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jailbreaking in 3, 2, 1...
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