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True | Shinhan | null | Unity, Gnome 3, now even Windows 8? WTF? | null | 0 | 1316505436 | False | 0 | c2l6znq | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l6znq | t1_c2l50he | null | 1427623015 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Yeah but the stats he was showing was dealing more with desktops only. | null | 0 | 1316505545 | False | 0 | c2l6zws | t3_kkp4z | null | t1_c2l6zws | t1_c2l4cla | null | 1427623017 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | elperroborrachotoo | null | > Pay 99$ a year. Then you can make/sell games/apps for xbox/wp7, and eventually win8.
Makes sense somehow. The important parts s probably the contract you sign and the contact information they get.
Yeah, I don't see any *need* for jailbreaking, unless Metro Style is available *only* in the sandbox. | null | 0 | 1316505668 | False | 0 | c2l706k | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l706k | t1_c2l6ymq | null | 1427623025 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | thomasz | null | I hate that one with pure passion. It's 2011 and it still doesn't know what to do with the exif orientation tag. | null | 0 | 1316505989 | False | 0 | c2l70uf | t3_kjf91 | null | t1_c2l70uf | t1_c2kzq9c | null | 1427623030 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | kristovaher | null | Who would design an API -without- developers in mind to begin with? What would the point be? | null | 0 | 1316506110 | False | 0 | c2l712r | t3_kkfsg | null | t1_c2l712r | t3_kkfsg | null | 1427623039 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rjberry | null | Who's still seriously building apps for Windows when the technologies you're using are deprecated every couple of years ... | null | 0 | 1316506188 | False | 0 | c2l718i | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l718i | t3_kl7h0 | null | 1427623032 | -18 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | millstone | null | Just like Apple if Apple tried to make iOS run on your desktop machine. | null | 0 | 1316506274 | False | 0 | c2l71eh | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l71eh | t1_c2l5pdn | null | 1427623034 | 22 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rsynnott | null | Anecdotal, but in most smaller software companies (where developers can often choose what they want to use), I'm seeing a more or less even mix of Linux and MacOS, at the moment; almost no Windows. Now, these are UNIX-oriented, shops, but really, these days, that describes nearly everyone not actively targeting the Windows desktop. | null | 0 | 1316506558 | False | 0 | c2l71wd | t3_kkp4z | null | t1_c2l71wd | t1_c2l2jh7 | null | 1427623040 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rsynnott | null | > You can even subtract some users from the windows category because Android development can be done on OS X and Linux too
I'd assume that the vast bulk of Android development _is_ done on Linux or MacOS. Windows does not appear to be popular as a desktop OS for programmers these days. | null | 0 | 1316506615 | False | 0 | c2l720a | t3_kkp4z | null | t1_c2l720a | t1_c2l2pfv | null | 1427623042 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rsynnott | null | > Why don't we just look at market share, where android overtook iOS several months ago?
Er, no. Android overtook the _iPhone_ several months ago. As of the beginning of August, there were roughly 130m Android devices vs 110m iPhones and 200m iOS devices total; it's not clear in any case how many were still in use. Remember, Apple sells a _lot_ of iPod Touches. | null | 0 | 1316506727 | False | 0 | c2l728w | t3_kkp4z | null | t1_c2l728w | t1_c2l1hc4 | null | 1427623045 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | millstone | null | > Why don't we just look at market share, where android overtook iOS several months ago?
[Or maybe not](http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2011/04/19/a-look-at-ipad-users-apple-still-trouncing-android/?mod=e2tw) | null | 0 | 1316506748 | False | 0 | c2l72ag | t3_kkp4z | null | t1_c2l72ag | t1_c2l1hc4 | null | 1427623046 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | MaRmARk0 | null | Flash is working everywhere except Apple's portable devices. HTML5's <audio> tag won't work in IE5, IE6, IE7...etc. so in this case it's better to use Flash because it can cover many different browsers and systems. But that's just my opinion. :) | null | 0 | 1316506959 | False | 0 | c2l72pm | t3_kkod0 | null | t1_c2l72pm | t1_c2l346a | null | 1427623051 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Jigsus | null | Nobody has announced the 99/year subscription. My guess is that it's just an option in the install. | null | 0 | 1316507094 | False | 0 | c2l72zx | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l72zx | t1_c2l6ymq | null | 1427623056 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | justguessmyusername | null | Cant wait for FF7. Getting sick of FF6. | null | 0 | 1316507154 | False | 0 | c2l7341 | t3_kl5hl | null | t1_c2l7341 | t3_kl5hl | null | 1427623056 | -6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | LargeDickington | null | Call your UX designer again, *I* have something to show her, lol
| null | 0 | 1316507270 | False | 0 | c2l73br | t3_kketr | null | t1_c2l73br | t1_c2l1zvi | null | 1427623059 | -11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Poddster | null | WTF is a Metro app or 'side loading'? | null | 0 | 1316507596 | False | 0 | c2l73xw | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l73xw | t3_kl7h0 | null | 1427623068 | 13 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Ahri | null | > If anything I see this story as an example of how more eyes don't actually help but can hurt.
It's not public-writable; there's no "hurt" involved: your summary sucks. | null | 0 | 1316507795 | False | 0 | c2l74bi | t3_kl5hl | null | t1_c2l74bi | t1_c2l5pi2 | null | 1427623073 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Sc4Freak | null | That's the same "horrible mess" that you *always* have to deal with when using COM. This is hardly anything unique or new to WinRT, and COM's idiosyncracies are precisely why C++/CX was introduced in the first place! | null | 0 | 1316507816 | False | 0 | c2l74ct | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l74ct | t1_c2l6ygg | null | 1427623073 | 15 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | A Metro app is a Windows 8 application that runs under the new user interface. It looks a lot like a Windows Phone application and is highly optimized for touch screens. Ideally an application written in this style will work just as well on a little iPad-like tablet as it does on a large screen desktop compter.
Rules:
1. Everything is async, so devs have to try hard to make applications that lock up.
2. Only the application you are looking at is running. Everything in the background is suspended. This helps with performance and batter life.
3. Only one application on the screen at a time. No overlapping windows.
4. Applications are bundled just like they are in OS X or on smart phones. Applications can on longer spread themselves all over the registery and file system.
5. May be written in C++, .NET, or JavaScript. All three have equal access to the operating system and hardware.
Older applications will run unchanged in "desktop" mode.
| null | 0 | 1316508121 | False | 0 | c2l74wh | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l74wh | t1_c2l73xw | null | 1427623087 | 43 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | Side loading means installing an application onto a locked-down platform without going through the "app store" for that platform. Originally it referred to iPhone, but these days everyone is playing the lock-down game. | null | 0 | 1316508285 | False | 0 | c2l757t | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l757t | t1_c2l73xw | null | 1427623085 | 21 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | "Side loading" is a neologism for what we've always known as "installing". It basically means you have to go through a centralized app store unless you're a developer or enterprise customer. | null | 0 | 1316508317 | False | 0 | c2l759t | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l759t | t1_c2l73xw | null | 1427623085 | 12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | "Jailbreaking" a PC. Sigh... | null | 0 | 1316508410 | False | 0 | c2l75f5 | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l75f5 | t1_c2l5rd6 | null | 1427623087 | 56 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Poddster | null | Thanks | null | 0 | 1316508625 | False | 0 | c2l75sf | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l75sf | t1_c2l74wh | null | 1427623092 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Poddster | null | Can't you still run win16 apps from the 3.1 days on Win7? | null | 0 | 1316508689 | False | 0 | c2l75vt | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l75vt | t1_c2l718i | null | 1427623093 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | This would all be really compelling if they'd done it in the existing Windows desktop environment, or if they'd made something entirely new that combined legacy support with the new environment (think the early days of the OS 9 -> OSX transition).
But the whole idea of isolating the new environment from the traditional desktop seems like a really bad idea. Will users really be OK switching between two different operating systems constantly? (which is really what it amounts to from a user's perspective) | null | 0 | 1316508953 | False | 0 | c2l76c2 | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l76c2 | t1_c2l74wh | null | 1427623099 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | tryx | null | 2 of which have special cases because they need to be bug for bug compatible with windows 386 from 1984. | null | 0 | 1316509070 | False | 0 | c2l76ji | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l76ji | t1_c2l6jyz | null | 1427623103 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | tamrix | null | What I don't get is why they didn't decide to make another tablet Windows that's very lightweight and only has the tablet UI. Then have a workstation Windows with the classic (regular) interface for productivity. Yet they can still go on selling home/business/profession edition of Windows.
Microsoft is already so late to the smart phone/tablet game, I'm wondering if they should even fucking bother. | null | 0 | 1316509179 | False | 0 | c2l76qf | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l76qf | t1_c2l5v2t | null | 1427623103 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | i_lick_my_knuckles | null | 0/10 | null | 0 | 1316509230 | False | 0 | c2l76tb | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l76tb | t1_c2l6ys3 | null | 1427623105 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | codingcanary | null | A new feature available in C++11 is extern template definitions. In the file you want the instantiation compiled into, you add something like this:
template class vector<int>;
This is valid C++03 syntax and is an explicit template instantiation; the issue in C++03 is that there's no way for code outside that file to refer to *this* instantiation, or even to know that it's there.
Any compiled files that instantiate the same template either explicitly or implicitly (e.g. with vector<int> v;) will have their own identical instantiation of the same template. (NB: not all parts of the template are necessarily instantiated, but that's by-the-bye.) When you come to link these files together, the linker then sees the repeated instantiations and makes them all refer to a single instantiation.
The time cost here is dual:
* Extra compile time for repeated instantiation of the same templates.
* Extra link time for consolidating the repeated instantiations.
My feeling is that the former is the more significant, but that's not based on any real evidence.
To solve this, C++11 adds the following syntax, which you'd place in your header file:
extern template class vector<int>;
Much like the declaration of extern data, this declares that a particular instantiation is already available elsewhere, and so the compiler should not regenerate the template instance.
What I'm not aware of at this stage is what, if any, real-world speed-ups are achievable in a non-trivial program.
Danny Kalev wrote a [great intro](http://www.informit.com/guides/content.aspx?g=cplusplus&seqNum=549) to the feature in his C++ Reference Guide, though note that he mistakenly used "extern class template vector<int>;" in his extern declaration (should be "template class" not "class template").
HTH :-) | null | 0 | 1316509274 | False | 0 | c2l76w4 | t3_kikut | null | t1_c2l76w4 | t1_c2kk56l | null | 1427623105 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | thomasz | null | It seems like you do not understand what deprecation means:
We use a vb6 application written in the end of 1998. The runtime had official support until 2008 and MS has pledged to support the runtime for the lifetime of vista, 7 and server 2008. Lifetime ends with extended support, which in 7s case is 1/14/2020. So the application will run for **untouched** for over 20 years.
Show me even one nontrivial, user facing Linux or Mac program from 1998 that runs without major hassle in 2011. | null | 0 | 1316509350 | False | 0 | c2l770q | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l770q | t1_c2l718i | null | 1427623108 | 27 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | shoseki | null | Methinks he doesn't get it.
When raytracing, you have per pixel, per ray cast, per object, per ray reflect, per ray to light, per ray through transparency. There are different optimisations you can do for each, but there are many parallelisations available.
Rasterisation is final primitive (triangle etc) bounding box per pixel, per object, per light (and maybe some I missed.) | null | 0 | 1316509464 | False | 0 | c2l776y | t3_kldfr | null | t1_c2l776y | t3_kldfr | null | 1427623110 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cwstjnobbs | null | People are finding out (Again) that tablets are just not that desirable.
The only reason Apple do OK by them is that they have an army of fanboys who will buy anything they sell.
Tablets are just expensive toys. | null | 0 | 1316509493 | False | 0 | c2l778l | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l778l | t1_c2l6ej7 | null | 1427623110 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cwstjnobbs | null | So you build a large and/or complex app for .NET and then make it communicate with a smaller, simpler app that acts as a GUI and runs on Metro. | null | 0 | 1316509669 | False | 0 | c2l77im | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l77im | t1_c2l65mh | null | 1427623114 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | movzx | null | Nope. Unless you count virtual machines. | null | 0 | 1316509680 | False | 0 | c2l77j8 | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l77j8 | t1_c2l75vt | null | 1427623115 | -3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Sc4Freak | null | Win16 is still supported on 32-bit versions of Windows, including Windows 7 and Windows 8. | null | 0 | 1316509828 | False | 0 | c2l77sd | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l77sd | t1_c2l77j8 | null | 1427623118 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Iggyhopper | null | Chrome does something like this.
Ctrl+V leaves out the `javascript:` part when used on the address bar. God dammit Google.
Oh well, Ctrl+Shift+J Ctrl+V Enter is actually *easier*, because there is no fiddling with the address bar.
Wow chrome, that was totally a useful thing to do, for whatever stupid reason.
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True | [deleted] | null | Please leave r/programming and head over to r/(un)funny or something. I'm so sick of stupid one-liners. | null | 0 | 1316509842 | False | 0 | c2l77tf | t3_kketr | null | t1_c2l77tf | t1_c2l73br | null | 1427623118 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | movzx | null | I thought 7 dropped 16bit, and 8 only came in 64bit? | null | 0 | 1316509947 | False | 0 | c2l77zb | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l77zb | t1_c2l77sd | null | 1427623121 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Timmmmbob | null | So desktop software is still supposed to use the win32 APIs? I thought WinRT was a replacement for win32, but I guess not... | null | 0 | 1316510037 | False | 0 | c2l7856 | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l7856 | t3_kl7h0 | null | 1427623123 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | alexeyr | null | > when the technologies you're using are deprecated every couple of years
They aren't. | null | 0 | 1316510061 | False | 0 | c2l786o | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l786o | t1_c2l718i | null | 1427623123 | 16 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Sc4Freak | null | Windows 7 x86 can still run 16-bit applications. Windows Server 8 is x64-only, but Windows 8 will be available as in both x86 and x64 versions. The x86 version of Windows 8 will continue to be able to run 16-bit applications. | null | 0 | 1316510129 | False | 0 | c2l78au | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l78au | t1_c2l77zb | null | 1427623125 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | icebraining | null | Oh, OK, I misunderstood you. Yeah, I agree, although I'd do both versions and load them depending on browser support. | null | 0 | 1316510313 | False | 0 | c2l78mm | t3_kkod0 | null | t1_c2l78mm | t1_c2l72pm | null | 1427623129 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1316510329 | False | 0 | c2l78ni | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l78ni | t1_c2l50he | null | 1427623129 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | KumbajaMyLord | null | Metro is the touchscreen / tablet UI.
The normal desktop is unaffected by that. | null | 0 | 1316510401 | False | 0 | c2l78s7 | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l78s7 | t1_c2l71eh | null | 1427623131 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | I'm a full time Linux user and I think people have the right to complain about things they dislike. Especially having all this mess around while Gnome and KDE try to break the desktop as soon as it was remotely stable. | null | 0 | 1316510438 | True | 0 | c2l78uv | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l78uv | t1_c2l76tb | null | 1427623132 | 14 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Boojum | null | Ah yes, the great debate. I've noticed that too about disregarding the complexity of building acceleration structures.
I've seen plenty of cases where the acceleration structure build massively dwarfs the tracing and shading time. You can defer some of this cost and build one lazily while rendering so that you start tracing rays. You can also build it and reuse it later. And you can often parallelize it. But ultimately the ray tracer also has to touch every primitive at least once at some point and the challenges there are not dissimilar from those that a rasterizer faces. I'd argue that in fact it's incredibly important to remember the time spent building the acceleration structure. | null | 0 | 1316510474 | False | 0 | c2l78xf | t3_kldfr | null | t1_c2l78xf | t3_kldfr | null | 1427623133 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | coob | null | How they always made money with Windows, OEM licensing.
I'm a moron. | null | 0 | 1316510500 | False | 0 | c2l78z6 | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l78z6 | t1_c2l6ezq | null | 1427623133 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Uh what? Your comment doesn't make any sense as a response to what I said... Maybe you wanted to respond to someone else. | null | 0 | 1316510525 | False | 0 | c2l790m | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l790m | t1_c2l74ct | null | 1428193666 | -5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | If you call this http://www.interact-sw.co.uk/iangblog/2011/09/16/real-native-winrt just fine --- | null | 0 | 1316510688 | False | 0 | c2l79ap | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l79ap | t1_c2l6oyl | null | 1427623140 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | pinnelar | null | do me | null | 0 | 1316510836 | False | 0 | c2l79io | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l79io | t1_c2l6x55 | null | 1427623141 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | megablast | null | Wow, what an insightful comment. Apple must have a pretty large fucking army. | null | 0 | 1316511062 | False | 0 | c2l79wl | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l79wl | t1_c2l778l | null | 1427623146 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | alexeyr | null | 1. Most Windows desktop application are using Win32 (possibly not directly, e.g., via .NET).
2. They are _not_ limiting the API. They are adding another one (WinRT), which includes equivalent of a limited part of Win32. WinRT programs can't use Win32 API directly, and vice versa.
So 3. People won't be writing antiviruses, graphic intense games and database engines in WinRT. | null | 0 | 1316511137 | False | 0 | c2l7a1n | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7a1n | t1_c2l5rpc | null | 1427623147 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | alexeyr | null | > C++0xwhatever may make all these new things standard. But until there's some reason to believe that's going to happen, there's a problem.
It certainly won't happen. Luckily, it's entirely unnecessary (see the other replies).
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True | alexeyr | null | Many people have used that for many years, and are still using that. | null | 0 | 1316511307 | False | 0 | c2l7abx | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7abx | t1_c2l6ygg | null | 1427623151 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | causticmango | null | Your funny. | null | 0 | 1316511444 | False | 0 | c2l7ajf | t3_kip3s | null | t1_c2l7ajf | t1_c2kw78s | null | 1427623154 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | machia | null | Where I currently work I've been trying to thing ways of getting away from the "Legacy Code" sympton which at least our team suffers and this comment gave me good food for thought for actually trying this out. The biggest problem I know I fill face will be trying to change the bad habits that we currently do to the one you are describing. But at least this cannot go any worser than what we are now doing ;)
I'm interested more about this:
> the team's manager must be a member of that team
what kind of problems, from an experience etc, do you know if the manager sits some where else?
And the sadest part is that we should be doing agile :( | null | 0 | 1316511453 | False | 0 | c2l7ajx | t3_kk5f4 | null | t1_c2l7ajx | t1_c2l0i1r | null | 1427623154 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | willb | null | nono, there is still file I/O, didn't you read the article?
>If you want to read a file from elsewhere, you use the FilePicker contract
>to display a file open dialog, and the user controls which file is selected. | null | 0 | 1316511566 | False | 0 | c2l7aq3 | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7aq3 | t1_c2l6jpl | null | 1427623156 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | wonglik | null | Because they believe that bringing tones of legacy apps to tablets will make tablets sell better. | null | 0 | 1316511760 | False | 0 | c2l7b15 | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7b15 | t1_c2l76qf | null | 1427623160 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | j25 | null | Thanks for this, it kills two birds with one stone for me - local instances as well as getting to grips with chef. | null | 0 | 1316512256 | False | 0 | c2l7bs7 | t3_kjtsp | null | t1_c2l7bs7 | t3_kjtsp | null | 1427623170 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | unpopular_opinion | null | What is interesting about this? This is an afternoon exercise on a university at most. Nothing to see here.
Or is it that people in Greece also discovered the computer? Did they buy it on credit? ^-^ | null | 0 | 1316512267 | False | 0 | c2l7bsw | t3_kkih6 | null | t1_c2l7bsw | t3_kkih6 | null | 1427623170 | -7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | frankster | null | so no its not supported then - who runs windows 7 on 32 bit?
lol | null | 0 | 1316512443 | False | 0 | c2l7c37 | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l7c37 | t1_c2l77sd | null | 1427623175 | -12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | i_lick_my_knuckles | null | >where every language binding has to be created manually, because every language creator thinks his little toy language is the most important thing out there...
Who else would create these language bindings? Microsoft? | null | 0 | 1316512697 | False | 0 | c2l7cgu | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7cgu | t1_c2l78uv | null | 1427623179 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | I cannot imagine a switch away from .NET. Do they have an agenda to screw developers over every 5 years or so? :-( | null | 0 | 1316513075 | False | 0 | c2l7d18 | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7d18 | t3_kl1qp | null | 1427623187 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Chousuke | null | I find it ironic that you mention Chrome when you refer to "better pastures" since Chrome uses almost the exact same development model that Mozilla now does. | null | 0 | 1316513149 | False | 0 | c2l7d5m | t3_kghid | null | t1_c2l7d5m | t1_c2kcwqv | null | 1427623189 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cenkozan | null | I don't agree. In the future we will be using wall like touch screens commanded by sound or hand gestures or holographs that uses both. I can understand why Microsoft is changing it's UIs but using apple's iOS designs and limiting it's uses and dropping it's developer base is what I can not understand. | null | 0 | 1316513226 | False | 0 | c2l7da9 | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7da9 | t1_c2l778l | null | 1427623189 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | flightsin | null | I think the confusion comes from the fact that it is not exactly clear where WinRT will be positioned. The way I see it now is that it acts as a replacement of Win32 to be used by Metro-style apps. But I get the impression that .NET will be unchanged on the desktop, and I'm not sure you can even develop desktop apps using WinRT.
I'll have to play around with the developer preview some more but I haven't found the time yet. | null | 0 | 1316513249 | False | 0 | c2l7dbg | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7dbg | t1_c2l5bwq | null | 1427623191 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1316513525 | False | 0 | c2l7dqw | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7dqw | t1_c2l59dx | null | 1428193665 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | unicock | null | 1999 will totally be the year of NC. | null | 0 | 1316513572 | False | 0 | c2l7dt5 | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7dt5 | t1_c2l646o | null | 1427623197 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | JL235 | null | The issue that the article has is that Windows 8 is not .NET dominated, or built entirely using .NET. How is this news worthy???
I don't see how supporting more diversity is a bad thing, and I don't care if the insides are C++ or C# (as long as it works). | null | 0 | 1316514030 | False | 0 | c2l7eju | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7eju | t3_kl1qp | null | 1427623210 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | jeff_hanson | null | The JVM is good enough for this, though. In fact, this sort of requirement is the one thing where it's actually a good idea. | null | 0 | 1316514051 | False | 0 | c2l7el7 | t3_kketr | null | t1_c2l7el7 | t1_c2l27b9 | null | 1427623210 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Neat. That is good news. | null | 0 | 1316514140 | False | 0 | c2l7eqf | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7eqf | t1_c2l6rnp | null | 1427623212 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | StrawberryFrog | null | > I thought the same too, until I saw the horrible mess necessary to use COM with C++. There is no chance anyone will ever use that, except maybe some code generation tools
When using a library written in language X from language Y, it is usual to write a wrapper library in language Y. The contents of this wrapper is usually hideous bridging code, often generated, and if you're lucky the hideousness does not leak out.
I don't see why C++ should be any different. | null | 0 | 1316514215 | False | 0 | c2l7eue | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7eue | t1_c2l6ygg | null | 1427623214 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | xexers | null | try being an apple developer... there it's more like every 2-3 years. | null | 0 | 1316514393 | False | 0 | c2l7f53 | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7f53 | t1_c2l7d18 | null | 1427623217 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Sure we have, you can download the dev preview for free [here](http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516). | null | 0 | 1316514505 | False | 0 | c2l7fbi | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7fbi | t1_c2l6ezq | null | 1427623219 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Lerc | null | He makes the presumption that acceleration structures can benefit both methods equally. | null | 0 | 1316514770 | False | 0 | c2l7fq5 | t3_kldfr | null | t1_c2l7fq5 | t1_c2l776y | null | 1427623233 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | antisvin | null | Emacs. | null | 0 | 1316514800 | False | 0 | c2l7fs2 | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l7fs2 | t1_c2l770q | null | 1427623225 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | NiteLite | null | Article about raytracing with no images = useless ... :| | null | 0 | 1316514946 | False | 0 | c2l7fzz | t3_kldfr | null | t1_c2l7fzz | t3_kldfr | null | 1427623230 | -12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Indestructavincible | null | Try out win 8. The desktop is indeed very affected. | null | 0 | 1316514965 | False | 0 | c2l7g0z | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l7g0z | t1_c2l78s7 | null | 1427623231 | 18 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cwstjnobbs | null | Tablets are too small to be used for any serious amount of work and any touchscreen device with enough power and size to replace a desktop is just not going to be ergonomic enough.
The keyboard and mouse, i.e. the desktop, are going nowhere for a very, very long time. | null | 0 | 1316515004 | False | 0 | c2l7g3a | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7g3a | t1_c2l7da9 | null | 1427623232 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | $sudo apt-get install nethack
Seriously though I'd be very surprised if you couldn't find stuff in the debian repos meeting that criteria, I doubt that gVim or Xemacs versions from 1998 wouldn't run.
I agree with you that MS's support for legacy is legendary. | null | 0 | 1316515031 | False | 0 | c2l7g4t | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l7g4t | t1_c2l770q | null | 1427623232 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Lerc | null | Something that makes a big difference for ray-tracing is that the underlying complexity is related to improving performance rather than visual quality. For rasterisation, the algorithms directly impact upon the visual result. Shadows, mirrors, fog, Level-of-detail all involve explicit drawing changes. | null | 0 | 1316515260 | False | 0 | c2l7gha | t3_kldfr | null | t1_c2l7gha | t3_kldfr | null | 1427623235 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Do you mean in JS or in Lua? Because as far as I know, identifiers in JS have to start with a letter, underscore, or dollar sign. | null | 0 | 1316515343 | False | 0 | c2l7gm7 | t3_kketr | null | t1_c2l7gm7 | t1_c2l668x | null | 1427623236 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return-oriented_programming -- it turns out you can find a minimal Forth system in a large enough binary =)
They invented their own term for threaded code though. Also, it's funny how SP turns out to be a perfect option for a virtual instruction pointer, resulting in a single-byte `NEXT` macro. | null | 0 | 1316515731 | False | 0 | c2l7h89 | t3_kkegr | null | t1_c2l7h89 | t1_c2l0km3 | null | 1427623243 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | mr420 | null | Maybe I'm missing the boat here, but doesn't this apply?
>"There is no inter-app communication" | null | 0 | 1316515791 | False | 0 | c2l7hbi | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7hbi | t1_c2l77im | null | 1427623245 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1316515805 | False | 0 | c2l7hcg | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7hcg | t1_c2l5tzv | null | 1427623245 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cwstjnobbs | null | The Metro stuff can talk to web services can't it?, your background app can mimic a web service. | null | 0 | 1316516082 | False | 0 | c2l7hse | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7hse | t1_c2l7hbi | null | 1427623252 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | mr420 | null | of course, but don't you still see that as a problem? It kind of limits any corporate use of Metro apps, doesn't it? | null | 0 | 1316516098 | False | 0 | c2l7htg | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7htg | t1_c2l6uh7 | null | 1427623252 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | coldacid | null | Except that systems will default to Metro, and most of the idiots out there won't understand why their expensive software won't run unless they futz around for a while to switch back to desktop UX. | null | 0 | 1316516234 | False | 0 | c2l7i1p | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7i1p | t1_c2l69r4 | null | 1427623255 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | antrn11 | null | I've seen worse article once. | null | 0 | 1316516240 | False | 0 | c2l7i21 | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7i21 | t1_c2l65zy | null | 1427623255 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | axilmar | null | > You can just use plain old COM, like people have been doing for years!
You mean, [this insanity](http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7436144/using-winrt-from-c)?
Please tell me how it is usable from c++...
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True | barbequeninja | null | A binary of nethack compiled in 1998 will run on today's debian?
The source of nethack from 1998 will compile and run today without modification? | null | 0 | 1316516266 | False | 0 | c2l7i3f | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l7i3f | t1_c2l7g4t | null | 1427623257 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | yeswecould | null | Recompiled, doesn't count. Although, didn't Macs have more stable ABI than Linux? | null | 0 | 1316516304 | False | 0 | c2l7i5g | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l7i5g | t1_c2l7fs2 | null | 1427623257 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | SCombinator | null | Sounds like you should actually read the article! | null | 0 | 1316516320 | False | 0 | c2l7i6a | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7i6a | t1_c2l5w98 | null | 1427623257 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | BinaryRockStar | null | I still support some of these at work. | null | 0 | 1316516329 | False | 0 | c2l7i6s | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l7i6s | t1_c2l75vt | null | 1427623257 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | mr420 | null | I'll bite -- 'cuz I'm in a biting mood. So, what you're saying is, you couldn't learn .NET, and you got downgraded by your manager to something a bit more in line with your abilities. Sorry dude. Hope it pays the bills... | null | 0 | 1316516492 | False | 0 | c2l7ifo | t3_kl1qp | null | t1_c2l7ifo | t1_c2l58ln | null | 1427623259 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | axilmar | null | > When I say "native C++", I mean "native code with no special runtime requirements". Jeez, way to nitpick. It means "I can write the equivalent code in pure C++ and they'll both compile to the same binary".
"Native C++" is not the same as "native code with no special runtime requirements". It is not nitpicking at all. "Native C++" means "standard C++". A language with extensions based on C++ is not native C++.
> And Haskell can NOT be compiled to native code. Not without embedding/linking to the Haskell runtime, in which case we could say any and all apps are equivalent because you can always embed/link their respective runtimes.
You are seriously confused. Native code and runtimes are two different things. Native code is when there is no virtual machine translating instructions from one ISA to another. A runtime can be in native code.
> C++/CX compiles to native code with no additional dependency on a runtime library like VB6 did & .NET does. (Well, beyond #includes and whatnot, but those happen in pure C++ too, so it doesn't count)
VB6 also compiled to native code. Your ignorance is astounding, to say the least. .NET also can be compiled to native code, if desired.
Again, runtime != native code.
> COM is not unusable. You just don't like it. Too bad.
Yeah, because writing 10 lines of code is the same as writing 1 line of code.
Gee, what the fsck do they feed you these days?
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True | yeswecould | null | They could run if recompiled, however application binary interface (ABI) is said to change on Linux a lot because of the different culture. Maybe if you limit yourself to standard Posix then you could run a few things, otherwise recompile. Microsoft takes effort of never changing ABI and even preserving bugs with compatibility modes. | null | 0 | 1316516572 | False | 0 | c2l7il1 | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l7il1 | t1_c2l7g4t | null | 1427623261 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | That is only true of a fairly high-level job, like CIO. On the lower levels simply people come and heap tasks on you and if you have no fixed hours how can you say "No, I won't do that this week because I have to do X,Y, Z and that already takes the 40 hours!" ? | null | 0 | 1316516592 | False | 0 | c2l7im1 | t3_jml9p | null | t1_c2l7im1 | t1_c2de5sf | null | 1427623261 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | axilmar | null | Well, COM can be programmed in assembly too, but I don't see anyone doing that.
I mean that if it's too impractical to use plain c++ with COM, and it is made super easy with C++/CX, then Microsoft forces you to use its proprietary extensions, i.e. it's a vendor lock-in.
Don't fall in the trap. Please.
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True | antrn11 | null | Bid deal. Just wipe out Windows and install Linux like people normally do when they want to *use* their computer. | null | 0 | 1316516660 | False | 0 | c2l7iqe | t3_kl7h0 | null | t1_c2l7iqe | t3_kl7h0 | null | 1427623262 | -13 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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