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8,441 | **This is NOT [this question](https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/901/does-god-have-free-will)**
I've been reading a lot about Arianism and this is an interesting point that they have:
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> Arius believed the Son Jesus was capable of His own free will of right
> and wrong, and that "were He in the truest sense a son, He must have
> come after the Father, therefore the time obviously was when He was
> not, and hence He was a finite being,"[37] and was under God the
> Father. The Arians appealed to Scripture, quoting verses such as John
> 14:28: "the Father is greater than I", and also Colossians 1:15:
> "Firstborn of all creation."
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So then, before being on the cross, did Jesus (being 100% man) have free will to make mistakes? | 2012/07/10 | [
"https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/8441",
"https://christianity.stackexchange.com",
"https://christianity.stackexchange.com/users/-1/"
] | >
> For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are--yet was without sin. (NIV Hebrews 4:15)
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> the prince of this world is coming. He has no hold on me (NIV John14:30)
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Jesus had free will, but not the ability to sin, that is considered impossible by many Christian leaders around the world. The fact is **there are two sides to this interesting question.** Both sides agree that Jesus did not sin, so I suppose this debate is only theoretical, but its all about whether theoretically he could have sinned. Those who hold to **“impeccability”** believe that Jesus could not have sinned. Those who hold to **“peccability”** believe that Jesus could have sinned, but did not.
I think when you think about it one must fall for the “impeccability” belief because it alone can maintain the idea of the God-Man. To assert peccability we are basically denying the scripture that says:
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> Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. (NIV Hebrews 13:8)
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Jesus would no longer be infinitely unchangeable in his nature if He sinned. The problem is that when God assumed human nature into His own person forever, God could never be separated from the man Jesus. The Christ was both God and Man to separate them would be to destroy both God and Man, which is impossible. Free will does not require absolute freedom to sin, but the divine nature does require absolute inability to sin, even though God has the most free will of all.
The question therefore is almost like saying could God send himself to hell, for that is the theological conclusion of the God-Man sinning. It would mean God sinned himself for Christ was not just man, but God.
**Of course Jesus could have never sinned otherwise He could no longer be said to be God.** Jesus’ human will would have had to be ‘infinitely powerful’ and opposed to God, or opposed to Himself, in its supposed ability to sin for if he had sinned he must suffer eternal hell, but if he was also God than God would also suffer eternal hell. The whole notion is ridiculous.
The cause of the confusion is we often exaggerate how much free will we have as humans. In various was we have very limited free will. The Bible has a different view. In fact it says that although Adam did have a unique aspect of free-will that no other man has ever had, being that He was specifically tested to choose life or death in the garden of Eden as a federal head of humanity, humans are born sinners with no such free will.
A sinner is born a slave to sin without the free will of living holy. This can’t happen until they are born again in Christ and become slaves to righteousness. In fact I heaven we will no longer be free to sin, just as Christ never could because He has become the source of our life and we will not be able to reject our own life, just as Christ was not able to reject His.
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> But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance. 18 You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness. (NIV Romans 6:17-18)
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Of course we are not fully slaves to righteousness until we enter heaven, but as believers we no longer have the freedom to allow sin to control our lives for our life is Christ who lives in us and who can’t sin.
It is not that difficult to show this belief in **the Impeccability of Christ has been a common belief held by mainstream Protestant leaders**, for example John Owen was one of the leading theologians and academic administrator at the University of Oxford in teh 1600s, he said:
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> We are tried and tempted by Satan, and the world, and by our own lusts. The aim of all these temptations is sin, to bring us more or less, in one degree or other, to contract the guilt of it. Of times in this condition sin actually ensues, temptation hath its effect in us and upon us; yea, when any temptation is vigorous and pressing, it is seldom but that more or less we are sinfully affected with it. It was quite otherwise with our high priest. Whatever temptation he was exposed unto or exercised withal, as he was with all of all sorts that can come from without, they had none of them in the least degree any effect in him or upon him; he was still in all things absolutely “without sin.” Now, the exception being absolute, I see no reason why it should not be applied unto sin with both the respects unto temptation mentioned. He neither was tempted by sin, such was the holiness of his nature; nor did his temptation produce any sin, such was the perfection of his obedience. (Owens Works Volume 20, P528)
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There are various good theologians that reinforce this doctrine, I have not read this article but it seems good from what I could tell. “[The Impeccability of Christ](http://www.berbc.org/Library/Arthur%20Pink%20-%20The%20impecability%20of%20Christ.shtml)” By Arthur W. Pink | Arianism introduced the teaching that Christ possessed a "conditional deity" therefore His Deity was conferred or gifted by the only -wise God ( The Father ) so according to Arianism it was absolutely possible for 'The Christ' to sin and loose His 'conditional deity' thus resulting in His eternal annihilation by Ultimate God. The Seventh-day Adventists promulgate this very teaching & appeal to a couple texts that the uneducated understand support their position.
God, according to the Scriptures, knows the end from the beginning & explicitly revealed in the Scriptures what the end would be - the Prophets all did this clearly, God the Father, God the Son & God the Holy Spirit all said Salvation would NOT fail - God would come and God would save.
The primary foundation of Arianism is that Christ Incarnated with a "sin nature" and as such Christ yearned or longed to sin but because He trusted in His Father ( understood to be a literal Father ) and through reading the Scriptures and prayer He was able to resist His yearning desire to sin and therefore was able to stand as a proper sacrifice for sins.
Only the Arian groups that exist today teach such things - such as the SDA's, Jehovah's Witnesses and Christadelphians - they claim that if Jesus couldn't have sinned and lost His own salvation then His coming was a farce and mockery.
It is absolutely a heretical teaching that must be avoided.
EDIT:
I was asked to add more information so that readers wouldn't think the above was a rant against Adventism [ Arianism ] ( which it's not ). I think we would all agree that people will generally believe what makes them feel good & this is the case with creating a belief system that allows for Jesus to have free will to include His ability to sin - again this is heresy.
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Christ was Eternally the Christ, the Lamb Slain from the Foundations of the world.
See: 1st Peter 1:19 ( it was foreknown INDEED that Christ would provide Salvation )
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That God would come and God would save was stated repeatedly in the Old Covenant Scriptures.
See: Isaiah 14:25 - - Ps 33:11 - - - Job 36:5 - - Zeph 3:5 - - & nearly 100 others
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The Apostle Peter in Acts 2:22 - 32 explictly states that David, being a prophet said that it was "not possible" ( IMPOSSIBLE ) for death to hold Christ because he ( David ) was allowed to see the future, specifically the Resurrection of Christ.
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Jesus said that He "always" ( Eternally ) did the will of the Father.
See: John 6:38 & John 8:29. We as Christians are called observe that even though Christ was God He didn't use that as an excuse to refuse to do the will of the Father, SEE: Phil 2: 5-10
In closing Jesus' free will WAS TO DO the Will of the Father and to please Him always.
I hope this helps. |
2,653,379 | Is there a list of all the source control systems that have visual studio plugins? If not, we can make one here... | 2010/04/16 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/2653379",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/18071/"
] | There's also Git Source Control Provider for Visual Studio:
<http://gitscc.codeplex.com/>
This one actually works with VS2010 for me. Git Extensions does not. | SourceGear's Vault has a Visual Studio plugin. Some of Vault's great features are:
* free for single users
* SQL Server backend
* atomic checkins / changesets
[Screenshots of Vault](http://www.sourcegear.com/vault/screenshots.html) |
2,653,379 | Is there a list of all the source control systems that have visual studio plugins? If not, we can make one here... | 2010/04/16 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/2653379",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/18071/"
] | Visual SVN with Tortoise and ankhsvn plugin works like a charm. Very easy to install and administrate. | [IBM Rational Team Concert](https://jazz.net/downloads/rational-team-concert/releases/3.0.1?p=news#vstudio)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This client integration supports Jazz Source Control, Work Items and Build Engine. |
2,653,379 | Is there a list of all the source control systems that have visual studio plugins? If not, we can make one here... | 2010/04/16 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/2653379",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/18071/"
] | Visual SVN with Tortoise and ankhsvn plugin works like a charm. Very easy to install and administrate. | [AccuRev's Microsoft Visual Studio Plug-in](http://www.accurev.com/accubridge-visual-studio.html) |
2,653,379 | Is there a list of all the source control systems that have visual studio plugins? If not, we can make one here... | 2010/04/16 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/2653379",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/18071/"
] | Visual SVN with Tortoise and ankhsvn plugin works like a charm. Very easy to install and administrate. | IBM Rational ClearCase |
2,653,379 | Is there a list of all the source control systems that have visual studio plugins? If not, we can make one here... | 2010/04/16 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/2653379",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/18071/"
] | [Subversion](http://subversion.apache.org/)
-------------------------------------------
* [AnkhSVN](http://AnkhSVN.Open.Collab.Net/)
* [VisualSVN](http://VisualSVN.Com/)
[Git](http://git-scm.com/)
--------------------------
* [Git Extensions](http://GitExtensions.SourceForge.Net/)
* [Git Source Control Provider](http://gitscc.codeplex.com/)
Team Foundation Server
----------------------
Visual Source Safe
------------------
CVS
---
IBM Rational ClearCase
----------------------
[Plastic SCM](http://www.plasticscm.com/features/third-party-integrations/visual-studio-integration.aspx)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mercurial
---------
* [VisualHG](http://VisualHg.CodePlex.Com/) | IBM Rational ClearCase |
2,653,379 | Is there a list of all the source control systems that have visual studio plugins? If not, we can make one here... | 2010/04/16 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/2653379",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/18071/"
] | [AccuRev's Microsoft Visual Studio Plug-in](http://www.accurev.com/accubridge-visual-studio.html) | [IBM Rational Team Concert](https://jazz.net/downloads/rational-team-concert/releases/3.0.1?p=news#vstudio)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This client integration supports Jazz Source Control, Work Items and Build Engine. |
2,653,379 | Is there a list of all the source control systems that have visual studio plugins? If not, we can make one here... | 2010/04/16 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/2653379",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/18071/"
] | [Subversion](http://subversion.apache.org/)
-------------------------------------------
* [AnkhSVN](http://AnkhSVN.Open.Collab.Net/)
* [VisualSVN](http://VisualSVN.Com/)
[Git](http://git-scm.com/)
--------------------------
* [Git Extensions](http://GitExtensions.SourceForge.Net/)
* [Git Source Control Provider](http://gitscc.codeplex.com/)
Team Foundation Server
----------------------
Visual Source Safe
------------------
CVS
---
IBM Rational ClearCase
----------------------
[Plastic SCM](http://www.plasticscm.com/features/third-party-integrations/visual-studio-integration.aspx)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mercurial
---------
* [VisualHG](http://VisualHg.CodePlex.Com/) | [AccuRev's Microsoft Visual Studio Plug-in](http://www.accurev.com/accubridge-visual-studio.html) |
2,653,379 | Is there a list of all the source control systems that have visual studio plugins? If not, we can make one here... | 2010/04/16 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/2653379",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/18071/"
] | [AccuRev's Microsoft Visual Studio Plug-in](http://www.accurev.com/accubridge-visual-studio.html) | Visual SourceSafe |
2,653,379 | Is there a list of all the source control systems that have visual studio plugins? If not, we can make one here... | 2010/04/16 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/2653379",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/18071/"
] | Team Foundation Server | Visual SourceSafe |
2,653,379 | Is there a list of all the source control systems that have visual studio plugins? If not, we can make one here... | 2010/04/16 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/2653379",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/18071/"
] | IBM Rational ClearCase | Visual SourceSafe |
18,195 | I have several chive plants in the garden. In the past, I've been able to use the chives before they started to bloom, but this year the plants are only 4inches tall and are already covered with buds. I grow them primarily as an herb, so the flowers are not a welcome sight. What can I do to discourage the plants from blooming so early in the future? I think a high nitrogen fertilizer might help, but are there other tricks I should know? | 2015/05/01 | [
"https://gardening.stackexchange.com/questions/18195",
"https://gardening.stackexchange.com",
"https://gardening.stackexchange.com/users/1447/"
] | Difficult - in my experience, even if you keep cutting the buds off, they still keep coming, but I haven't been that rigorous about it. I guess if you kept cutting them back, it would stop trying to flower after four or so weeks, maybe, its a bulb after all, but you might find you get flowerheads in Fall instead/as well. I take it you don't like eating the flowers then? They are edible and have a faint onion taste, but it has to be said that their stalks (as I'm sure you know) become tough and not pleasant to eat. | You can simply use the flowers (as an herb) - they are one of the brief delights of springtime. Try a cracker with some cheese or yogurt and a chive flower for an easy approach to this.
Otherwise, cut off the budded stalks. |
638,142 | i am new to c# language.i saw that you wrote the c# client application to the axis2 web service.i also want to know how i write C# client for the axis2 application | 2009/03/12 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/638142",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/-1/"
] | Edited: He's running 32 bit vista, so it's definitely not a 64 bit issues.
Make a test.vbs file and put this in it
Dim o: Set o = CreateObject("Scripting.Dictionary")
Then run it like so
cscript.exe test.vbs
Does it give you the same error?
If it does, then the regsvr32 is failing or something is wrong with the registry keys it would normally put in the registry.
If it doesn't fail, it's likely that the user you have running your asp page (by default it is IUSR\_machinename) doesn't have permissions on either ther registry keys it needs, or the actual .dll | 0x800401f3 means that the "Scripting.Dictionary" is incorrect or not found. The Scripting.FileSystemObject is provided by the same dll file, and I know that some hosts have disabled this by unregistering the dll file, which would also disable the Dictionary object. Could you check if the Scripting.FileSystemObject works?
Both objects are provided by Windows\System32\scrrun.dll (or Windows\SysWOW64\scrrun.dll if you're executing 32bit on 64bit host). Check the permissions on this file, and verify what privileges your asp script executes as. |
638,142 | i am new to c# language.i saw that you wrote the c# client application to the axis2 web service.i also want to know how i write C# client for the axis2 application | 2009/03/12 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/638142",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/-1/"
] | 0x800401f3 means that the "Scripting.Dictionary" is incorrect or not found. The Scripting.FileSystemObject is provided by the same dll file, and I know that some hosts have disabled this by unregistering the dll file, which would also disable the Dictionary object. Could you check if the Scripting.FileSystemObject works?
Both objects are provided by Windows\System32\scrrun.dll (or Windows\SysWOW64\scrrun.dll if you're executing 32bit on 64bit host). Check the permissions on this file, and verify what privileges your asp script executes as. | Take a look at:
* [Tips for Classic ASP developers on IIS7](http://blogs.iis.net/bills/archive/2007/05/21/tips-for-classic-asp-developers-on-iis7.aspx)
* [More Tips and Troubleshooting Help for Classic ASP Developers](http://blogs.iis.net/bills/archive/2009/02/20/more-tips-and-troubleshooting-help-for-classic-asp-developers.aspx)
Both the links are from Bill Staples' blog, he's one of the head honchos on the IIS side of things and the tips in the first link sorted me out when I was trying to get Classic ASP up and running. |
638,142 | i am new to c# language.i saw that you wrote the c# client application to the axis2 web service.i also want to know how i write C# client for the axis2 application | 2009/03/12 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/638142",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/-1/"
] | Edited: He's running 32 bit vista, so it's definitely not a 64 bit issues.
Make a test.vbs file and put this in it
Dim o: Set o = CreateObject("Scripting.Dictionary")
Then run it like so
cscript.exe test.vbs
Does it give you the same error?
If it does, then the regsvr32 is failing or something is wrong with the registry keys it would normally put in the registry.
If it doesn't fail, it's likely that the user you have running your asp page (by default it is IUSR\_machinename) doesn't have permissions on either ther registry keys it needs, or the actual .dll | Take a look at:
* [Tips for Classic ASP developers on IIS7](http://blogs.iis.net/bills/archive/2007/05/21/tips-for-classic-asp-developers-on-iis7.aspx)
* [More Tips and Troubleshooting Help for Classic ASP Developers](http://blogs.iis.net/bills/archive/2009/02/20/more-tips-and-troubleshooting-help-for-classic-asp-developers.aspx)
Both the links are from Bill Staples' blog, he's one of the head honchos on the IIS side of things and the tips in the first link sorted me out when I was trying to get Classic ASP up and running. |
44,117 | Is there a way to mitigate cohabitation that is inherent to semi-presidential system by making the unitary state look like a federal one that have only one federated state! I mean is it possible to split power between the president and the prime minister in the same way we do it between a the federal state and the federated one? | 2019/08/30 | [
"https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/44117",
"https://politics.stackexchange.com",
"https://politics.stackexchange.com/users/-1/"
] | All in all, if it’s your country, it’s your constitution, you can define what you want.
In practice, I cannot see an arrangement of one higher entity (the federal state) and one lower one (the federated state) with exactly the same borders last long. In Germany, a federal republic, there are three city-states of which two (Hamburg and Berlin) are composed of exactly one city. In these city-states, the elected parliament functions as both a state parliament (like in the states of Brandenburg or Schleswig-Holstein) and a city council (like for the cities of Potsdam or Lübeck – all examples chosen for proximity to Berlin or Hamburg). The chief elected official is termed *ruling mayor (Regierender Bürgermeister)*, the title of which puts him on par with other mayors but at the same time he is also on the same level as the minister presidents of the other states. Depending on which conference he is in he will be either or the other. The parliaments of Hamburg and Berlin enact legislation equivalent to other cities and to other states depending on the subject at hand.
I would strongly assume that any one-state-federation would reduce itself to such a structure—which essentially is just a sovereign state without subdivisions—sooner or later if only for saving money.
As for the balance of powers between a prime minister and a president: there are numerous ways to achieve that without the need to introduce a pseudo-federation. | Technically I don't see any contradiction in such a system, but this would require a very clear definition of the area of competence for these two representatives of the executive branch. For example one would be responsible for foreign affairs, defense and security while the other would take care of healthcare, education and agriculture. It would probably require two independent budgets and resources, otherwise the one which holds the financial power has a lot of leverage on the other. |
136,786 | My spouse did some work for Operation Bandana New Mexico last year, a nonprofit that makes face masks to donate to schools, etc. She got a 1099-NEC as expected with the income reported in box 1. However, this is the only box of the seven numbered boxes that have anything in them. Box 7 "State income" is blank, as are box 5 and box 6 (other state information).
This seems to indicate to me that none of this amount should be reported to the state (I reside in New Mexico) or is subject to paid taxes. Is this correct?
Is it possible to have a 1099-NEC this way? Is there something special about state income tax in New Mexico when contracting with a nonprofit? Is Operation Bandana New Mexico (which I believe is a state-funded or state-initiated thing in some way) special in some way? Or is this an error on my tax form? (The nonprofit used an outside accounting company to generate these tax documents, so at least it would seem professional accountants have put this together.) | 2021/02/20 | [
"https://money.stackexchange.com/questions/136786",
"https://money.stackexchange.com",
"https://money.stackexchange.com/users/20224/"
] | >
> An option call is basically a bet between two people. One betting that the stock will go up while the other believes it will not.
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That is true in its most simplistic form. However, there a more complex option strategies where both parties to the above transaction could want the stock to go up. For example, you buy the call and I sell it as part of a covered call or a vertical spread.
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> I can place an option call for example that will last 30 days or more?
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There are about 4,200 stocks that offer options. About 500 of them offer weekly options for the next 8 weeks.
All optionable stocks will have the current month, the following month and the next two months in the cycle. Stocks (and ETFs) whose options are heavily traded may have even more expiration months.
If LEAPs are offered (long term options), there will be two subsequent January expirations as well.
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> Covered and uncovered is using your own shares as the betting material and using someone else's shares?
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In the context of owning the stock, covered means using your own shares (a short position in a stock can also be covered). Using someone else's shares involves shorting the stock. | There's another scenario where you can 'bet' like that. It's called insurance.
I mean, at a simplistic level, insurance is a bet that you'll burn your house down, and the insurance company looks at probability, multiplies it by cost, adds a profit, and then sets a premium.
Your outcome is in not winning the bet - taking a small loss, to avoid a significant impact.
And that's a lot like how options work - they're very rarely just two investors having a bet between them. One party is - usually - using the option as a risk control.
The options market can therefore be seen as a sort of insurance market - where you take on risk, and earn a risk premium, because someone else wants to reduce risk (maybe by pooling it across a large number of counterparties).
At a simple example - imagine I run a bakery. I sell bread quite reliably every day, and am quite profitable, but only if the price of wheat stays pretty stable.
So I might take options on 'price of wheat' going up (I can either do this directly via commodity options or futures, or I can do this indirectly by taking options in companies that become *more* profitable in this scenario). I do that despite it not really looking like that's going to happen, and in effect waste money, "giving" it to the counterparty as a risk premium.
But in doing that, I know that I can *stay* profitable, even if there's a bad harvest this year - a situation which might otherwise put me out of business.
And the counterparty? On average (if they do this for many years) they make a profit - they're acting as the insurance underwriter here. Both parties notionally 'win' this exchange.
I win because I don't go bust if the price of wheat increases. You win because I'm paying slightly more than the 'actual risk' would reflect. |
8,389 | I answered a question here with a quote with the following quote from Cosmologist George Ellis.
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> “Similar claims [about a multiverse] have been made since antiquity by many cultures. What is new is the assertion that the
> multiverse is a scientific theory, with all that implies about being
> mathematically rigorous and experimentally testable. I am skeptical
> about this claim. I do not believe the existence of those other
> universes has been proved—or ever could be. Proponents of the
> multiverse, as well as greatly enlarging our conception of physical
> reality, are implicitly redefining what is meant by ‘science.’”—pg 39
>
>
> “For a cosmologist, the basic problem with all multiverse proposals is the presence of a cosmic visual horizon. The horizon is
> the limit to how far away we can see, because signals traveling toward
> us at the speed of light (which is finite) have not had time since the
> beginning of the universe to reach us from farther out. All the
> parallel universes lie outside our horizon and remain beyond our
> capacity to see, now or ever, no matter how technology evolves. In
> fact, they are to far away to have had any influence on our universe
> whatsoever. That is why none of the claims made by multiverse
> enthusiasts can be directly substantiated.”—pg 40-41
>
>
> “A remarkable fact about our universe is that physical constants have just the right values needed to allow for complex structures,
> including living things. Steven Weinberg, Martin Rees, Leonard
> Susskind and others contend that an exotic multiverse provides a tidy
> explanation for this apparent coincidence: if all possible values
> occur in a large enough collection of universes, then viable ones for
> life will surely be found somewhere. This reasoning has been applied,
> in particular, to explanation the density of the dark energy that is
> speeding up the expansion of the universe today. I agree that the
> multiverse is a possible valid explanation for the value of this
> density; arguably, it is the only scientifically based option we have
> right now. But we have no hope of testing it observationally.”—pg 42
>
>
> “All in all, the case for the multiverse is inconclusive. The basic reason is the extreme flexibility of the proposal: it is more a
> concept than well-defined theory. Most proposals involve a patchwork
> of different ideas rather than a coherent whole. The basic mechanism
> for eternal inflation does not itself cause physics to be different in
> each domain in a multiverse; for that, it needs to be coupled to
> another speculative theory. Although they can be fitted together,
> there is nothing inevitable about it. … Nothing is wrong with
> scientifically based philosophical speculation, which is what
> multiverse proposals are. But we should name it for what it is.”—pg 43
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Now with this in mind if these theories cannot be independently verified should their truth not lie in method outside physics or what is also known as meta physics? | 2013/10/13 | [
"https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/8389",
"https://philosophy.stackexchange.com",
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] | I haven't come across the term meta physics, perhaps you should provide a link? Unless, you of course you mean metaphysics? I'd differentiate between the two because multi-verse theories or string theories or the like are highly speculative, but also very mathematically and physically based. This is very different from the tradition of metaphysics proper.
Speculative physics, is not a standard term either, but from what your quote this is I think what you mean by meta physics. It has a grand tradition going back to the early cosmological speculations of the pre-Socratics at least in the Western tradition - a school that is sometimes called the Milesian materialists. Philosophers such as Thales, Parmenides, Zeno & Democritus amongst others tackled problems that originated in the physical world; (and there is a direct link between the physics of antiquity & the origins of modern physics - for example, Newton had a copy of Lucretious *De Rerum Natura*, a polemical poem by a Roman poet on atomism. One suspects this directly influenced Newton championing of a corpuscular theory of light, and his use of point particles in modelling motion & gravity).
This should be distinguished from Physics proper, from Galileo onwards when the notion of an experimentally based physics began to gain ground. This innovation was partly driven by technological progress - that is instruments began to be precise & regular enough to make an experimentally based physics possible.
This experimental approach resulted in an explosive advance in physical knowledge until say the mid to late 20 Century, when the energies and distances probed were too high & too small for a direct experimental approach to be feasible. For example the Higgs Boson was predicted over 50 years ago, it is only now that probing at the energy level required is feasible.
This means that research at a fundamental level is driven by a combination of physical intuition and (mathematical) aesthetic considerations. For example, the move from a point particle to a particle with some extension (string theory); the move from a homgenous and continuous background space to a space that is also atomic (Spin networks, Spin foam, causal sets, entropic gravity).
It was two millenia before the early physical theories could be tested directly; one could suppose with the energies required to probe the Plank length a similar time-scale may be required. In which case ***it would make good sense to have a term distinguishing between experimental & philosophical/speculative/metaphysical physics.*** | The multiverse theories can be science insofar as they are mere predictors of physical outcomes. All science can do is predict experience. The multiverse theories might hint at actual multiverses, but whether or not they exist is not science. What I am doing is applying Ayer's criteria towards science (not philosophy!). I think we always have to be careful about using the qualitative nature of current scientific theories to try to prove the qualitative nature of reality. Scientific theories are ultimately upturned, and qualitatively disparate theories might take its place. |
8,389 | I answered a question here with a quote with the following quote from Cosmologist George Ellis.
>
> “Similar claims [about a multiverse] have been made since antiquity by many cultures. What is new is the assertion that the
> multiverse is a scientific theory, with all that implies about being
> mathematically rigorous and experimentally testable. I am skeptical
> about this claim. I do not believe the existence of those other
> universes has been proved—or ever could be. Proponents of the
> multiverse, as well as greatly enlarging our conception of physical
> reality, are implicitly redefining what is meant by ‘science.’”—pg 39
>
>
> “For a cosmologist, the basic problem with all multiverse proposals is the presence of a cosmic visual horizon. The horizon is
> the limit to how far away we can see, because signals traveling toward
> us at the speed of light (which is finite) have not had time since the
> beginning of the universe to reach us from farther out. All the
> parallel universes lie outside our horizon and remain beyond our
> capacity to see, now or ever, no matter how technology evolves. In
> fact, they are to far away to have had any influence on our universe
> whatsoever. That is why none of the claims made by multiverse
> enthusiasts can be directly substantiated.”—pg 40-41
>
>
> “A remarkable fact about our universe is that physical constants have just the right values needed to allow for complex structures,
> including living things. Steven Weinberg, Martin Rees, Leonard
> Susskind and others contend that an exotic multiverse provides a tidy
> explanation for this apparent coincidence: if all possible values
> occur in a large enough collection of universes, then viable ones for
> life will surely be found somewhere. This reasoning has been applied,
> in particular, to explanation the density of the dark energy that is
> speeding up the expansion of the universe today. I agree that the
> multiverse is a possible valid explanation for the value of this
> density; arguably, it is the only scientifically based option we have
> right now. But we have no hope of testing it observationally.”—pg 42
>
>
> “All in all, the case for the multiverse is inconclusive. The basic reason is the extreme flexibility of the proposal: it is more a
> concept than well-defined theory. Most proposals involve a patchwork
> of different ideas rather than a coherent whole. The basic mechanism
> for eternal inflation does not itself cause physics to be different in
> each domain in a multiverse; for that, it needs to be coupled to
> another speculative theory. Although they can be fitted together,
> there is nothing inevitable about it. … Nothing is wrong with
> scientifically based philosophical speculation, which is what
> multiverse proposals are. But we should name it for what it is.”—pg 43
>
>
>
Now with this in mind if these theories cannot be independently verified should their truth not lie in method outside physics or what is also known as meta physics? | 2013/10/13 | [
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] | I haven't come across the term meta physics, perhaps you should provide a link? Unless, you of course you mean metaphysics? I'd differentiate between the two because multi-verse theories or string theories or the like are highly speculative, but also very mathematically and physically based. This is very different from the tradition of metaphysics proper.
Speculative physics, is not a standard term either, but from what your quote this is I think what you mean by meta physics. It has a grand tradition going back to the early cosmological speculations of the pre-Socratics at least in the Western tradition - a school that is sometimes called the Milesian materialists. Philosophers such as Thales, Parmenides, Zeno & Democritus amongst others tackled problems that originated in the physical world; (and there is a direct link between the physics of antiquity & the origins of modern physics - for example, Newton had a copy of Lucretious *De Rerum Natura*, a polemical poem by a Roman poet on atomism. One suspects this directly influenced Newton championing of a corpuscular theory of light, and his use of point particles in modelling motion & gravity).
This should be distinguished from Physics proper, from Galileo onwards when the notion of an experimentally based physics began to gain ground. This innovation was partly driven by technological progress - that is instruments began to be precise & regular enough to make an experimentally based physics possible.
This experimental approach resulted in an explosive advance in physical knowledge until say the mid to late 20 Century, when the energies and distances probed were too high & too small for a direct experimental approach to be feasible. For example the Higgs Boson was predicted over 50 years ago, it is only now that probing at the energy level required is feasible.
This means that research at a fundamental level is driven by a combination of physical intuition and (mathematical) aesthetic considerations. For example, the move from a point particle to a particle with some extension (string theory); the move from a homgenous and continuous background space to a space that is also atomic (Spin networks, Spin foam, causal sets, entropic gravity).
It was two millenia before the early physical theories could be tested directly; one could suppose with the energies required to probe the Plank length a similar time-scale may be required. In which case ***it would make good sense to have a term distinguishing between experimental & philosophical/speculative/metaphysical physics.*** | I agree with Mozibur Ullah. I am no expert in the field, but I thought I would add my own opinion. I think that we cannot say just yet whether it is metaphysics or not. As our knowledge of a theory grows through mathematical reasoning, and our experimental techniques improve, we may realise that we can in fact test the multiverse theory (although I think that the real problem is thinking that a result that agrees with the predictions made by multiverse theory but not with those made by any other currently existing theory is evidence for the multiverse theory being correct, rather than just evidence about how the universe works which could be explained by the multiverse theory).
You may find the following article interesting <https://www.quantamagazine.org/20141110-multiverse-collisions-may-dot-the-sky/>
So if our experimental aparatus becomes sensitive enough to be able to see the tiny differences in the CMB fluctuations that would distinguish the multiverse theory from some other theory that predicts similar CMB fluctuations, then you could say we have evidence for the multiverse theory (assuming that different theories do make different predictions, although now in modern physics one of the most used techniques is changing the values of parameters as a result of experimental data and then seeing whether these parameters give rise to further distinctive predictions, and if not whether we can tweak the parameters some more when new experimental data arises so that it does not end up being inconsistent with the previous data).
So I suppose what I'm trying to say is that we are in a bit of an unknown. The line between physics and metaphysics seems to be becoming increasingly blurry. To be honest, it seems to me that there is no reason at all why the universe should work in a way that our minds can comprehend e.g. Ther being a soup of universes or particles being everywhere at the same time. Although we don't really understand this and it seems counterintuitive, the fact that we are even able to put these theories into words shows that it is something that we can conceptually comprehend. Although I suppose that is the only way to be making progress in science, because having some understanding of the theory allows us to make guesses about what could happen and then see if the maths, and then the experiment, works out.
So with regards to multiverses, I don't know if we may, some day, be able to make a prediction using this theory that is validated by experiment and that we can be certain in saying that no other theory, whether comprehendable or not, could produce such a result. But I sure hope so.
I feel like what I have said doesn't really answer your question :/ but I hope that the article gives some food for thought... |
8,389 | I answered a question here with a quote with the following quote from Cosmologist George Ellis.
>
> “Similar claims [about a multiverse] have been made since antiquity by many cultures. What is new is the assertion that the
> multiverse is a scientific theory, with all that implies about being
> mathematically rigorous and experimentally testable. I am skeptical
> about this claim. I do not believe the existence of those other
> universes has been proved—or ever could be. Proponents of the
> multiverse, as well as greatly enlarging our conception of physical
> reality, are implicitly redefining what is meant by ‘science.’”—pg 39
>
>
> “For a cosmologist, the basic problem with all multiverse proposals is the presence of a cosmic visual horizon. The horizon is
> the limit to how far away we can see, because signals traveling toward
> us at the speed of light (which is finite) have not had time since the
> beginning of the universe to reach us from farther out. All the
> parallel universes lie outside our horizon and remain beyond our
> capacity to see, now or ever, no matter how technology evolves. In
> fact, they are to far away to have had any influence on our universe
> whatsoever. That is why none of the claims made by multiverse
> enthusiasts can be directly substantiated.”—pg 40-41
>
>
> “A remarkable fact about our universe is that physical constants have just the right values needed to allow for complex structures,
> including living things. Steven Weinberg, Martin Rees, Leonard
> Susskind and others contend that an exotic multiverse provides a tidy
> explanation for this apparent coincidence: if all possible values
> occur in a large enough collection of universes, then viable ones for
> life will surely be found somewhere. This reasoning has been applied,
> in particular, to explanation the density of the dark energy that is
> speeding up the expansion of the universe today. I agree that the
> multiverse is a possible valid explanation for the value of this
> density; arguably, it is the only scientifically based option we have
> right now. But we have no hope of testing it observationally.”—pg 42
>
>
> “All in all, the case for the multiverse is inconclusive. The basic reason is the extreme flexibility of the proposal: it is more a
> concept than well-defined theory. Most proposals involve a patchwork
> of different ideas rather than a coherent whole. The basic mechanism
> for eternal inflation does not itself cause physics to be different in
> each domain in a multiverse; for that, it needs to be coupled to
> another speculative theory. Although they can be fitted together,
> there is nothing inevitable about it. … Nothing is wrong with
> scientifically based philosophical speculation, which is what
> multiverse proposals are. But we should name it for what it is.”—pg 43
>
>
>
Now with this in mind if these theories cannot be independently verified should their truth not lie in method outside physics or what is also known as meta physics? | 2013/10/13 | [
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] | I haven't come across the term meta physics, perhaps you should provide a link? Unless, you of course you mean metaphysics? I'd differentiate between the two because multi-verse theories or string theories or the like are highly speculative, but also very mathematically and physically based. This is very different from the tradition of metaphysics proper.
Speculative physics, is not a standard term either, but from what your quote this is I think what you mean by meta physics. It has a grand tradition going back to the early cosmological speculations of the pre-Socratics at least in the Western tradition - a school that is sometimes called the Milesian materialists. Philosophers such as Thales, Parmenides, Zeno & Democritus amongst others tackled problems that originated in the physical world; (and there is a direct link between the physics of antiquity & the origins of modern physics - for example, Newton had a copy of Lucretious *De Rerum Natura*, a polemical poem by a Roman poet on atomism. One suspects this directly influenced Newton championing of a corpuscular theory of light, and his use of point particles in modelling motion & gravity).
This should be distinguished from Physics proper, from Galileo onwards when the notion of an experimentally based physics began to gain ground. This innovation was partly driven by technological progress - that is instruments began to be precise & regular enough to make an experimentally based physics possible.
This experimental approach resulted in an explosive advance in physical knowledge until say the mid to late 20 Century, when the energies and distances probed were too high & too small for a direct experimental approach to be feasible. For example the Higgs Boson was predicted over 50 years ago, it is only now that probing at the energy level required is feasible.
This means that research at a fundamental level is driven by a combination of physical intuition and (mathematical) aesthetic considerations. For example, the move from a point particle to a particle with some extension (string theory); the move from a homgenous and continuous background space to a space that is also atomic (Spin networks, Spin foam, causal sets, entropic gravity).
It was two millenia before the early physical theories could be tested directly; one could suppose with the energies required to probe the Plank length a similar time-scale may be required. In which case ***it would make good sense to have a term distinguishing between experimental & philosophical/speculative/metaphysical physics.*** | Word are words, so we can define them as we like. The definition of "metaphysics" which I have found most meaningful in my research is "things beyond the explanation of physics."
The key to that definition is that it is not just things beyond the explanation of known physics, it's beyond physics in general. In this context, physics is usually classified as the study of repeatable testable things with rules.
As an example, there is a metaphysical belief that ghosts generate EMF readings. This is metaphysical because they do not seek to explain it, they just use it as "definitive proof" that a ghost is there.
There is also a physics based belief that ghosts generate EMF readings. Those who follow this belief aim to create repeatable tests which demonstrate, quantify, and model the EMF effects of ghosts. In doing so, they also make their theory falsifiable. I consider this just as much physics as the hunt for the next subatomic particle. That being said, I also hold it to the same standards: so far the proof of this belief is very lacking. While I would call it physics, I would also call it weak physics.
If I were to use this edge to dissect the original arguments, I would say the argument "there is a multiverse, and everything occurs every which way in some universe." to be metaphysics. However, if you begin to discuss the topology of these universes, and start suggesting models of what would be required to interact with one of these other universes in a repeatable fashion, I would call it weak physics.
Similar arguments are made for why string theory is still "physics." String theory admits testable repeatable behaviors; the lack of such behaviors would falsify the theory. The fact that such a test requires energy levels focused on microscopic regions far beyond our current capacity does not push it into metaphysics, it just means String theory continues to be "weak" until we can actually test it and strengthen it. |
8,389 | I answered a question here with a quote with the following quote from Cosmologist George Ellis.
>
> “Similar claims [about a multiverse] have been made since antiquity by many cultures. What is new is the assertion that the
> multiverse is a scientific theory, with all that implies about being
> mathematically rigorous and experimentally testable. I am skeptical
> about this claim. I do not believe the existence of those other
> universes has been proved—or ever could be. Proponents of the
> multiverse, as well as greatly enlarging our conception of physical
> reality, are implicitly redefining what is meant by ‘science.’”—pg 39
>
>
> “For a cosmologist, the basic problem with all multiverse proposals is the presence of a cosmic visual horizon. The horizon is
> the limit to how far away we can see, because signals traveling toward
> us at the speed of light (which is finite) have not had time since the
> beginning of the universe to reach us from farther out. All the
> parallel universes lie outside our horizon and remain beyond our
> capacity to see, now or ever, no matter how technology evolves. In
> fact, they are to far away to have had any influence on our universe
> whatsoever. That is why none of the claims made by multiverse
> enthusiasts can be directly substantiated.”—pg 40-41
>
>
> “A remarkable fact about our universe is that physical constants have just the right values needed to allow for complex structures,
> including living things. Steven Weinberg, Martin Rees, Leonard
> Susskind and others contend that an exotic multiverse provides a tidy
> explanation for this apparent coincidence: if all possible values
> occur in a large enough collection of universes, then viable ones for
> life will surely be found somewhere. This reasoning has been applied,
> in particular, to explanation the density of the dark energy that is
> speeding up the expansion of the universe today. I agree that the
> multiverse is a possible valid explanation for the value of this
> density; arguably, it is the only scientifically based option we have
> right now. But we have no hope of testing it observationally.”—pg 42
>
>
> “All in all, the case for the multiverse is inconclusive. The basic reason is the extreme flexibility of the proposal: it is more a
> concept than well-defined theory. Most proposals involve a patchwork
> of different ideas rather than a coherent whole. The basic mechanism
> for eternal inflation does not itself cause physics to be different in
> each domain in a multiverse; for that, it needs to be coupled to
> another speculative theory. Although they can be fitted together,
> there is nothing inevitable about it. … Nothing is wrong with
> scientifically based philosophical speculation, which is what
> multiverse proposals are. But we should name it for what it is.”—pg 43
>
>
>
Now with this in mind if these theories cannot be independently verified should their truth not lie in method outside physics or what is also known as meta physics? | 2013/10/13 | [
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] | I haven't come across the term meta physics, perhaps you should provide a link? Unless, you of course you mean metaphysics? I'd differentiate between the two because multi-verse theories or string theories or the like are highly speculative, but also very mathematically and physically based. This is very different from the tradition of metaphysics proper.
Speculative physics, is not a standard term either, but from what your quote this is I think what you mean by meta physics. It has a grand tradition going back to the early cosmological speculations of the pre-Socratics at least in the Western tradition - a school that is sometimes called the Milesian materialists. Philosophers such as Thales, Parmenides, Zeno & Democritus amongst others tackled problems that originated in the physical world; (and there is a direct link between the physics of antiquity & the origins of modern physics - for example, Newton had a copy of Lucretious *De Rerum Natura*, a polemical poem by a Roman poet on atomism. One suspects this directly influenced Newton championing of a corpuscular theory of light, and his use of point particles in modelling motion & gravity).
This should be distinguished from Physics proper, from Galileo onwards when the notion of an experimentally based physics began to gain ground. This innovation was partly driven by technological progress - that is instruments began to be precise & regular enough to make an experimentally based physics possible.
This experimental approach resulted in an explosive advance in physical knowledge until say the mid to late 20 Century, when the energies and distances probed were too high & too small for a direct experimental approach to be feasible. For example the Higgs Boson was predicted over 50 years ago, it is only now that probing at the energy level required is feasible.
This means that research at a fundamental level is driven by a combination of physical intuition and (mathematical) aesthetic considerations. For example, the move from a point particle to a particle with some extension (string theory); the move from a homgenous and continuous background space to a space that is also atomic (Spin networks, Spin foam, causal sets, entropic gravity).
It was two millenia before the early physical theories could be tested directly; one could suppose with the energies required to probe the Plank length a similar time-scale may be required. In which case ***it would make good sense to have a term distinguishing between experimental & philosophical/speculative/metaphysical physics.*** | The "Many Worlds" type of multiverse is hardly metaphysics. It is rather the consequence of rigorous mathematical application of Shrodinger's famous (and magnificent and indispensable) wave function equation, and the simplest solution to the paradox of quantum superposition. Many Worlds seems to be the necessary outcome of the wave function equation if the wave function does not undergo (the persistently problematic) collapse. Anyway, the mathematical predictions of theoretical physics come true far too often to consider them as metaphysical thought experiments.
Read, if you haven't, Hugh Everett's 1957 dissertation, "The Theory of the Universal Wave Function." He's the one that started it all. Sadly, he was scorned for it.
<http://www-tc.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/manyworlds/pdf/dissertation.pdf> |
8,389 | I answered a question here with a quote with the following quote from Cosmologist George Ellis.
>
> “Similar claims [about a multiverse] have been made since antiquity by many cultures. What is new is the assertion that the
> multiverse is a scientific theory, with all that implies about being
> mathematically rigorous and experimentally testable. I am skeptical
> about this claim. I do not believe the existence of those other
> universes has been proved—or ever could be. Proponents of the
> multiverse, as well as greatly enlarging our conception of physical
> reality, are implicitly redefining what is meant by ‘science.’”—pg 39
>
>
> “For a cosmologist, the basic problem with all multiverse proposals is the presence of a cosmic visual horizon. The horizon is
> the limit to how far away we can see, because signals traveling toward
> us at the speed of light (which is finite) have not had time since the
> beginning of the universe to reach us from farther out. All the
> parallel universes lie outside our horizon and remain beyond our
> capacity to see, now or ever, no matter how technology evolves. In
> fact, they are to far away to have had any influence on our universe
> whatsoever. That is why none of the claims made by multiverse
> enthusiasts can be directly substantiated.”—pg 40-41
>
>
> “A remarkable fact about our universe is that physical constants have just the right values needed to allow for complex structures,
> including living things. Steven Weinberg, Martin Rees, Leonard
> Susskind and others contend that an exotic multiverse provides a tidy
> explanation for this apparent coincidence: if all possible values
> occur in a large enough collection of universes, then viable ones for
> life will surely be found somewhere. This reasoning has been applied,
> in particular, to explanation the density of the dark energy that is
> speeding up the expansion of the universe today. I agree that the
> multiverse is a possible valid explanation for the value of this
> density; arguably, it is the only scientifically based option we have
> right now. But we have no hope of testing it observationally.”—pg 42
>
>
> “All in all, the case for the multiverse is inconclusive. The basic reason is the extreme flexibility of the proposal: it is more a
> concept than well-defined theory. Most proposals involve a patchwork
> of different ideas rather than a coherent whole. The basic mechanism
> for eternal inflation does not itself cause physics to be different in
> each domain in a multiverse; for that, it needs to be coupled to
> another speculative theory. Although they can be fitted together,
> there is nothing inevitable about it. … Nothing is wrong with
> scientifically based philosophical speculation, which is what
> multiverse proposals are. But we should name it for what it is.”—pg 43
>
>
>
Now with this in mind if these theories cannot be independently verified should their truth not lie in method outside physics or what is also known as meta physics? | 2013/10/13 | [
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] | Word are words, so we can define them as we like. The definition of "metaphysics" which I have found most meaningful in my research is "things beyond the explanation of physics."
The key to that definition is that it is not just things beyond the explanation of known physics, it's beyond physics in general. In this context, physics is usually classified as the study of repeatable testable things with rules.
As an example, there is a metaphysical belief that ghosts generate EMF readings. This is metaphysical because they do not seek to explain it, they just use it as "definitive proof" that a ghost is there.
There is also a physics based belief that ghosts generate EMF readings. Those who follow this belief aim to create repeatable tests which demonstrate, quantify, and model the EMF effects of ghosts. In doing so, they also make their theory falsifiable. I consider this just as much physics as the hunt for the next subatomic particle. That being said, I also hold it to the same standards: so far the proof of this belief is very lacking. While I would call it physics, I would also call it weak physics.
If I were to use this edge to dissect the original arguments, I would say the argument "there is a multiverse, and everything occurs every which way in some universe." to be metaphysics. However, if you begin to discuss the topology of these universes, and start suggesting models of what would be required to interact with one of these other universes in a repeatable fashion, I would call it weak physics.
Similar arguments are made for why string theory is still "physics." String theory admits testable repeatable behaviors; the lack of such behaviors would falsify the theory. The fact that such a test requires energy levels focused on microscopic regions far beyond our current capacity does not push it into metaphysics, it just means String theory continues to be "weak" until we can actually test it and strengthen it. | The multiverse theories can be science insofar as they are mere predictors of physical outcomes. All science can do is predict experience. The multiverse theories might hint at actual multiverses, but whether or not they exist is not science. What I am doing is applying Ayer's criteria towards science (not philosophy!). I think we always have to be careful about using the qualitative nature of current scientific theories to try to prove the qualitative nature of reality. Scientific theories are ultimately upturned, and qualitatively disparate theories might take its place. |
8,389 | I answered a question here with a quote with the following quote from Cosmologist George Ellis.
>
> “Similar claims [about a multiverse] have been made since antiquity by many cultures. What is new is the assertion that the
> multiverse is a scientific theory, with all that implies about being
> mathematically rigorous and experimentally testable. I am skeptical
> about this claim. I do not believe the existence of those other
> universes has been proved—or ever could be. Proponents of the
> multiverse, as well as greatly enlarging our conception of physical
> reality, are implicitly redefining what is meant by ‘science.’”—pg 39
>
>
> “For a cosmologist, the basic problem with all multiverse proposals is the presence of a cosmic visual horizon. The horizon is
> the limit to how far away we can see, because signals traveling toward
> us at the speed of light (which is finite) have not had time since the
> beginning of the universe to reach us from farther out. All the
> parallel universes lie outside our horizon and remain beyond our
> capacity to see, now or ever, no matter how technology evolves. In
> fact, they are to far away to have had any influence on our universe
> whatsoever. That is why none of the claims made by multiverse
> enthusiasts can be directly substantiated.”—pg 40-41
>
>
> “A remarkable fact about our universe is that physical constants have just the right values needed to allow for complex structures,
> including living things. Steven Weinberg, Martin Rees, Leonard
> Susskind and others contend that an exotic multiverse provides a tidy
> explanation for this apparent coincidence: if all possible values
> occur in a large enough collection of universes, then viable ones for
> life will surely be found somewhere. This reasoning has been applied,
> in particular, to explanation the density of the dark energy that is
> speeding up the expansion of the universe today. I agree that the
> multiverse is a possible valid explanation for the value of this
> density; arguably, it is the only scientifically based option we have
> right now. But we have no hope of testing it observationally.”—pg 42
>
>
> “All in all, the case for the multiverse is inconclusive. The basic reason is the extreme flexibility of the proposal: it is more a
> concept than well-defined theory. Most proposals involve a patchwork
> of different ideas rather than a coherent whole. The basic mechanism
> for eternal inflation does not itself cause physics to be different in
> each domain in a multiverse; for that, it needs to be coupled to
> another speculative theory. Although they can be fitted together,
> there is nothing inevitable about it. … Nothing is wrong with
> scientifically based philosophical speculation, which is what
> multiverse proposals are. But we should name it for what it is.”—pg 43
>
>
>
Now with this in mind if these theories cannot be independently verified should their truth not lie in method outside physics or what is also known as meta physics? | 2013/10/13 | [
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] | The multiverse theories can be science insofar as they are mere predictors of physical outcomes. All science can do is predict experience. The multiverse theories might hint at actual multiverses, but whether or not they exist is not science. What I am doing is applying Ayer's criteria towards science (not philosophy!). I think we always have to be careful about using the qualitative nature of current scientific theories to try to prove the qualitative nature of reality. Scientific theories are ultimately upturned, and qualitatively disparate theories might take its place. | The "Many Worlds" type of multiverse is hardly metaphysics. It is rather the consequence of rigorous mathematical application of Shrodinger's famous (and magnificent and indispensable) wave function equation, and the simplest solution to the paradox of quantum superposition. Many Worlds seems to be the necessary outcome of the wave function equation if the wave function does not undergo (the persistently problematic) collapse. Anyway, the mathematical predictions of theoretical physics come true far too often to consider them as metaphysical thought experiments.
Read, if you haven't, Hugh Everett's 1957 dissertation, "The Theory of the Universal Wave Function." He's the one that started it all. Sadly, he was scorned for it.
<http://www-tc.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/manyworlds/pdf/dissertation.pdf> |
8,389 | I answered a question here with a quote with the following quote from Cosmologist George Ellis.
>
> “Similar claims [about a multiverse] have been made since antiquity by many cultures. What is new is the assertion that the
> multiverse is a scientific theory, with all that implies about being
> mathematically rigorous and experimentally testable. I am skeptical
> about this claim. I do not believe the existence of those other
> universes has been proved—or ever could be. Proponents of the
> multiverse, as well as greatly enlarging our conception of physical
> reality, are implicitly redefining what is meant by ‘science.’”—pg 39
>
>
> “For a cosmologist, the basic problem with all multiverse proposals is the presence of a cosmic visual horizon. The horizon is
> the limit to how far away we can see, because signals traveling toward
> us at the speed of light (which is finite) have not had time since the
> beginning of the universe to reach us from farther out. All the
> parallel universes lie outside our horizon and remain beyond our
> capacity to see, now or ever, no matter how technology evolves. In
> fact, they are to far away to have had any influence on our universe
> whatsoever. That is why none of the claims made by multiverse
> enthusiasts can be directly substantiated.”—pg 40-41
>
>
> “A remarkable fact about our universe is that physical constants have just the right values needed to allow for complex structures,
> including living things. Steven Weinberg, Martin Rees, Leonard
> Susskind and others contend that an exotic multiverse provides a tidy
> explanation for this apparent coincidence: if all possible values
> occur in a large enough collection of universes, then viable ones for
> life will surely be found somewhere. This reasoning has been applied,
> in particular, to explanation the density of the dark energy that is
> speeding up the expansion of the universe today. I agree that the
> multiverse is a possible valid explanation for the value of this
> density; arguably, it is the only scientifically based option we have
> right now. But we have no hope of testing it observationally.”—pg 42
>
>
> “All in all, the case for the multiverse is inconclusive. The basic reason is the extreme flexibility of the proposal: it is more a
> concept than well-defined theory. Most proposals involve a patchwork
> of different ideas rather than a coherent whole. The basic mechanism
> for eternal inflation does not itself cause physics to be different in
> each domain in a multiverse; for that, it needs to be coupled to
> another speculative theory. Although they can be fitted together,
> there is nothing inevitable about it. … Nothing is wrong with
> scientifically based philosophical speculation, which is what
> multiverse proposals are. But we should name it for what it is.”—pg 43
>
>
>
Now with this in mind if these theories cannot be independently verified should their truth not lie in method outside physics or what is also known as meta physics? | 2013/10/13 | [
"https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/8389",
"https://philosophy.stackexchange.com",
"https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/users/1660/"
] | Word are words, so we can define them as we like. The definition of "metaphysics" which I have found most meaningful in my research is "things beyond the explanation of physics."
The key to that definition is that it is not just things beyond the explanation of known physics, it's beyond physics in general. In this context, physics is usually classified as the study of repeatable testable things with rules.
As an example, there is a metaphysical belief that ghosts generate EMF readings. This is metaphysical because they do not seek to explain it, they just use it as "definitive proof" that a ghost is there.
There is also a physics based belief that ghosts generate EMF readings. Those who follow this belief aim to create repeatable tests which demonstrate, quantify, and model the EMF effects of ghosts. In doing so, they also make their theory falsifiable. I consider this just as much physics as the hunt for the next subatomic particle. That being said, I also hold it to the same standards: so far the proof of this belief is very lacking. While I would call it physics, I would also call it weak physics.
If I were to use this edge to dissect the original arguments, I would say the argument "there is a multiverse, and everything occurs every which way in some universe." to be metaphysics. However, if you begin to discuss the topology of these universes, and start suggesting models of what would be required to interact with one of these other universes in a repeatable fashion, I would call it weak physics.
Similar arguments are made for why string theory is still "physics." String theory admits testable repeatable behaviors; the lack of such behaviors would falsify the theory. The fact that such a test requires energy levels focused on microscopic regions far beyond our current capacity does not push it into metaphysics, it just means String theory continues to be "weak" until we can actually test it and strengthen it. | I agree with Mozibur Ullah. I am no expert in the field, but I thought I would add my own opinion. I think that we cannot say just yet whether it is metaphysics or not. As our knowledge of a theory grows through mathematical reasoning, and our experimental techniques improve, we may realise that we can in fact test the multiverse theory (although I think that the real problem is thinking that a result that agrees with the predictions made by multiverse theory but not with those made by any other currently existing theory is evidence for the multiverse theory being correct, rather than just evidence about how the universe works which could be explained by the multiverse theory).
You may find the following article interesting <https://www.quantamagazine.org/20141110-multiverse-collisions-may-dot-the-sky/>
So if our experimental aparatus becomes sensitive enough to be able to see the tiny differences in the CMB fluctuations that would distinguish the multiverse theory from some other theory that predicts similar CMB fluctuations, then you could say we have evidence for the multiverse theory (assuming that different theories do make different predictions, although now in modern physics one of the most used techniques is changing the values of parameters as a result of experimental data and then seeing whether these parameters give rise to further distinctive predictions, and if not whether we can tweak the parameters some more when new experimental data arises so that it does not end up being inconsistent with the previous data).
So I suppose what I'm trying to say is that we are in a bit of an unknown. The line between physics and metaphysics seems to be becoming increasingly blurry. To be honest, it seems to me that there is no reason at all why the universe should work in a way that our minds can comprehend e.g. Ther being a soup of universes or particles being everywhere at the same time. Although we don't really understand this and it seems counterintuitive, the fact that we are even able to put these theories into words shows that it is something that we can conceptually comprehend. Although I suppose that is the only way to be making progress in science, because having some understanding of the theory allows us to make guesses about what could happen and then see if the maths, and then the experiment, works out.
So with regards to multiverses, I don't know if we may, some day, be able to make a prediction using this theory that is validated by experiment and that we can be certain in saying that no other theory, whether comprehendable or not, could produce such a result. But I sure hope so.
I feel like what I have said doesn't really answer your question :/ but I hope that the article gives some food for thought... |
8,389 | I answered a question here with a quote with the following quote from Cosmologist George Ellis.
>
> “Similar claims [about a multiverse] have been made since antiquity by many cultures. What is new is the assertion that the
> multiverse is a scientific theory, with all that implies about being
> mathematically rigorous and experimentally testable. I am skeptical
> about this claim. I do not believe the existence of those other
> universes has been proved—or ever could be. Proponents of the
> multiverse, as well as greatly enlarging our conception of physical
> reality, are implicitly redefining what is meant by ‘science.’”—pg 39
>
>
> “For a cosmologist, the basic problem with all multiverse proposals is the presence of a cosmic visual horizon. The horizon is
> the limit to how far away we can see, because signals traveling toward
> us at the speed of light (which is finite) have not had time since the
> beginning of the universe to reach us from farther out. All the
> parallel universes lie outside our horizon and remain beyond our
> capacity to see, now or ever, no matter how technology evolves. In
> fact, they are to far away to have had any influence on our universe
> whatsoever. That is why none of the claims made by multiverse
> enthusiasts can be directly substantiated.”—pg 40-41
>
>
> “A remarkable fact about our universe is that physical constants have just the right values needed to allow for complex structures,
> including living things. Steven Weinberg, Martin Rees, Leonard
> Susskind and others contend that an exotic multiverse provides a tidy
> explanation for this apparent coincidence: if all possible values
> occur in a large enough collection of universes, then viable ones for
> life will surely be found somewhere. This reasoning has been applied,
> in particular, to explanation the density of the dark energy that is
> speeding up the expansion of the universe today. I agree that the
> multiverse is a possible valid explanation for the value of this
> density; arguably, it is the only scientifically based option we have
> right now. But we have no hope of testing it observationally.”—pg 42
>
>
> “All in all, the case for the multiverse is inconclusive. The basic reason is the extreme flexibility of the proposal: it is more a
> concept than well-defined theory. Most proposals involve a patchwork
> of different ideas rather than a coherent whole. The basic mechanism
> for eternal inflation does not itself cause physics to be different in
> each domain in a multiverse; for that, it needs to be coupled to
> another speculative theory. Although they can be fitted together,
> there is nothing inevitable about it. … Nothing is wrong with
> scientifically based philosophical speculation, which is what
> multiverse proposals are. But we should name it for what it is.”—pg 43
>
>
>
Now with this in mind if these theories cannot be independently verified should their truth not lie in method outside physics or what is also known as meta physics? | 2013/10/13 | [
"https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/8389",
"https://philosophy.stackexchange.com",
"https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/users/1660/"
] | I agree with Mozibur Ullah. I am no expert in the field, but I thought I would add my own opinion. I think that we cannot say just yet whether it is metaphysics or not. As our knowledge of a theory grows through mathematical reasoning, and our experimental techniques improve, we may realise that we can in fact test the multiverse theory (although I think that the real problem is thinking that a result that agrees with the predictions made by multiverse theory but not with those made by any other currently existing theory is evidence for the multiverse theory being correct, rather than just evidence about how the universe works which could be explained by the multiverse theory).
You may find the following article interesting <https://www.quantamagazine.org/20141110-multiverse-collisions-may-dot-the-sky/>
So if our experimental aparatus becomes sensitive enough to be able to see the tiny differences in the CMB fluctuations that would distinguish the multiverse theory from some other theory that predicts similar CMB fluctuations, then you could say we have evidence for the multiverse theory (assuming that different theories do make different predictions, although now in modern physics one of the most used techniques is changing the values of parameters as a result of experimental data and then seeing whether these parameters give rise to further distinctive predictions, and if not whether we can tweak the parameters some more when new experimental data arises so that it does not end up being inconsistent with the previous data).
So I suppose what I'm trying to say is that we are in a bit of an unknown. The line between physics and metaphysics seems to be becoming increasingly blurry. To be honest, it seems to me that there is no reason at all why the universe should work in a way that our minds can comprehend e.g. Ther being a soup of universes or particles being everywhere at the same time. Although we don't really understand this and it seems counterintuitive, the fact that we are even able to put these theories into words shows that it is something that we can conceptually comprehend. Although I suppose that is the only way to be making progress in science, because having some understanding of the theory allows us to make guesses about what could happen and then see if the maths, and then the experiment, works out.
So with regards to multiverses, I don't know if we may, some day, be able to make a prediction using this theory that is validated by experiment and that we can be certain in saying that no other theory, whether comprehendable or not, could produce such a result. But I sure hope so.
I feel like what I have said doesn't really answer your question :/ but I hope that the article gives some food for thought... | The "Many Worlds" type of multiverse is hardly metaphysics. It is rather the consequence of rigorous mathematical application of Shrodinger's famous (and magnificent and indispensable) wave function equation, and the simplest solution to the paradox of quantum superposition. Many Worlds seems to be the necessary outcome of the wave function equation if the wave function does not undergo (the persistently problematic) collapse. Anyway, the mathematical predictions of theoretical physics come true far too often to consider them as metaphysical thought experiments.
Read, if you haven't, Hugh Everett's 1957 dissertation, "The Theory of the Universal Wave Function." He's the one that started it all. Sadly, he was scorned for it.
<http://www-tc.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/manyworlds/pdf/dissertation.pdf> |
8,389 | I answered a question here with a quote with the following quote from Cosmologist George Ellis.
>
> “Similar claims [about a multiverse] have been made since antiquity by many cultures. What is new is the assertion that the
> multiverse is a scientific theory, with all that implies about being
> mathematically rigorous and experimentally testable. I am skeptical
> about this claim. I do not believe the existence of those other
> universes has been proved—or ever could be. Proponents of the
> multiverse, as well as greatly enlarging our conception of physical
> reality, are implicitly redefining what is meant by ‘science.’”—pg 39
>
>
> “For a cosmologist, the basic problem with all multiverse proposals is the presence of a cosmic visual horizon. The horizon is
> the limit to how far away we can see, because signals traveling toward
> us at the speed of light (which is finite) have not had time since the
> beginning of the universe to reach us from farther out. All the
> parallel universes lie outside our horizon and remain beyond our
> capacity to see, now or ever, no matter how technology evolves. In
> fact, they are to far away to have had any influence on our universe
> whatsoever. That is why none of the claims made by multiverse
> enthusiasts can be directly substantiated.”—pg 40-41
>
>
> “A remarkable fact about our universe is that physical constants have just the right values needed to allow for complex structures,
> including living things. Steven Weinberg, Martin Rees, Leonard
> Susskind and others contend that an exotic multiverse provides a tidy
> explanation for this apparent coincidence: if all possible values
> occur in a large enough collection of universes, then viable ones for
> life will surely be found somewhere. This reasoning has been applied,
> in particular, to explanation the density of the dark energy that is
> speeding up the expansion of the universe today. I agree that the
> multiverse is a possible valid explanation for the value of this
> density; arguably, it is the only scientifically based option we have
> right now. But we have no hope of testing it observationally.”—pg 42
>
>
> “All in all, the case for the multiverse is inconclusive. The basic reason is the extreme flexibility of the proposal: it is more a
> concept than well-defined theory. Most proposals involve a patchwork
> of different ideas rather than a coherent whole. The basic mechanism
> for eternal inflation does not itself cause physics to be different in
> each domain in a multiverse; for that, it needs to be coupled to
> another speculative theory. Although they can be fitted together,
> there is nothing inevitable about it. … Nothing is wrong with
> scientifically based philosophical speculation, which is what
> multiverse proposals are. But we should name it for what it is.”—pg 43
>
>
>
Now with this in mind if these theories cannot be independently verified should their truth not lie in method outside physics or what is also known as meta physics? | 2013/10/13 | [
"https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/8389",
"https://philosophy.stackexchange.com",
"https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/users/1660/"
] | Word are words, so we can define them as we like. The definition of "metaphysics" which I have found most meaningful in my research is "things beyond the explanation of physics."
The key to that definition is that it is not just things beyond the explanation of known physics, it's beyond physics in general. In this context, physics is usually classified as the study of repeatable testable things with rules.
As an example, there is a metaphysical belief that ghosts generate EMF readings. This is metaphysical because they do not seek to explain it, they just use it as "definitive proof" that a ghost is there.
There is also a physics based belief that ghosts generate EMF readings. Those who follow this belief aim to create repeatable tests which demonstrate, quantify, and model the EMF effects of ghosts. In doing so, they also make their theory falsifiable. I consider this just as much physics as the hunt for the next subatomic particle. That being said, I also hold it to the same standards: so far the proof of this belief is very lacking. While I would call it physics, I would also call it weak physics.
If I were to use this edge to dissect the original arguments, I would say the argument "there is a multiverse, and everything occurs every which way in some universe." to be metaphysics. However, if you begin to discuss the topology of these universes, and start suggesting models of what would be required to interact with one of these other universes in a repeatable fashion, I would call it weak physics.
Similar arguments are made for why string theory is still "physics." String theory admits testable repeatable behaviors; the lack of such behaviors would falsify the theory. The fact that such a test requires energy levels focused on microscopic regions far beyond our current capacity does not push it into metaphysics, it just means String theory continues to be "weak" until we can actually test it and strengthen it. | The "Many Worlds" type of multiverse is hardly metaphysics. It is rather the consequence of rigorous mathematical application of Shrodinger's famous (and magnificent and indispensable) wave function equation, and the simplest solution to the paradox of quantum superposition. Many Worlds seems to be the necessary outcome of the wave function equation if the wave function does not undergo (the persistently problematic) collapse. Anyway, the mathematical predictions of theoretical physics come true far too often to consider them as metaphysical thought experiments.
Read, if you haven't, Hugh Everett's 1957 dissertation, "The Theory of the Universal Wave Function." He's the one that started it all. Sadly, he was scorned for it.
<http://www-tc.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/manyworlds/pdf/dissertation.pdf> |
5,685,368 | I'm using SQL server and web developer(C#).
I know I should do something with my connection string, but I don't exactly what and where I should do that.
Can you write me code example
or explain me what to do?
Edit:
I should connect my database with the site(the site is on the internet).
how would i know the right path for this database?
I should put his address, IP or what? | 2011/04/16 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/5685368",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/710980/"
] | first you have to know that you cannot just add the database to the server like this !!!
you have to script the whole database, and then you have to upload it into your database server like godaddy.com or what ever . your hosting server should support you with these setails ,they gonna give you a user name and password and other details so you can access to the sql manger ( like my ltitladmin) online ....there you have to upload or just copy and execute your code directly so you can make all your tables and stored procedures or what ever ....
after all this all what you have to is just take the online database new connection string and then add it o your web.confg or in you pages ,this is the way how to make it work right. | I guess you need to read about it a little:
-------------------------------------------
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff648340.aspx> |
5,685,368 | I'm using SQL server and web developer(C#).
I know I should do something with my connection string, but I don't exactly what and where I should do that.
Can you write me code example
or explain me what to do?
Edit:
I should connect my database with the site(the site is on the internet).
how would i know the right path for this database?
I should put his address, IP or what? | 2011/04/16 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/5685368",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/710980/"
] | first you have to know that you cannot just add the database to the server like this !!!
you have to script the whole database, and then you have to upload it into your database server like godaddy.com or what ever . your hosting server should support you with these setails ,they gonna give you a user name and password and other details so you can access to the sql manger ( like my ltitladmin) online ....there you have to upload or just copy and execute your code directly so you can make all your tables and stored procedures or what ever ....
after all this all what you have to is just take the online database new connection string and then add it o your web.confg or in you pages ,this is the way how to make it work right. | It depends on your ASP.NET application.
Basically, connection strings could be stored anywere.
One of suggested connection strings' store is Web.config file. Look for "connectionStrings" configuration element and you should find there the one to change for your production server.
Look at this page:
<http://www.connectionstrings.com/>
You'll find SQL Server connection string examples. |
5,685,368 | I'm using SQL server and web developer(C#).
I know I should do something with my connection string, but I don't exactly what and where I should do that.
Can you write me code example
or explain me what to do?
Edit:
I should connect my database with the site(the site is on the internet).
how would i know the right path for this database?
I should put his address, IP or what? | 2011/04/16 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/5685368",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/710980/"
] | first you have to know that you cannot just add the database to the server like this !!!
you have to script the whole database, and then you have to upload it into your database server like godaddy.com or what ever . your hosting server should support you with these setails ,they gonna give you a user name and password and other details so you can access to the sql manger ( like my ltitladmin) online ....there you have to upload or just copy and execute your code directly so you can make all your tables and stored procedures or what ever ....
after all this all what you have to is just take the online database new connection string and then add it o your web.confg or in you pages ,this is the way how to make it work right. | there is a lot os ways to do that, try to take a look to this simple example:
<http://www.csharp-station.com/Tutorials/AdoDotNet/Lesson02.aspx> |
117,042 | Does this only work on specific OSes? | 2018/05/11 | [
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/117042",
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com",
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com/users/182696/"
] | you are probably seeking a method which will allow you to copy a cell(s) containing a comment(s) and paste such cell(s) in a way to keep those comments. unfortunately, such a method doesn't exist.
the only way to copy comments from a given sheet is to make a global copy of such sheet:
* go to **File**
* select **Make a copy...**
* choose **Copy comments**
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/AtD96.gif) | From [Create, view, or save a file](https://support.google.com/docs/answer/49114?hl=en) (pay attention to step 4)
>
> **COMPUTER**
>
>
> **Make a copy of a file**
>
>
> 1. On your computer, open a Google Docs, Sheets, Slides, or Forms home screen.
> Open the file you want to make a copy of.
> 2. In the menu, click File and then Make a copy.
> 3. Type a name and choose where to save it.
> 4. If you want to copy comments from a document, spreadsheet, or presentation, click Copy comments and suggestions or Copy comments.
> 5. Click Ok.
>
>
>
The Android/ iOS apps doesn't include the option to Copy comments and suggestions / Copy comments |
117,042 | Does this only work on specific OSes? | 2018/05/11 | [
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/117042",
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com",
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com/users/182696/"
] | You cannot copy and paste a cell with the attached comments but you can **cut and paste** a cell. | From [Create, view, or save a file](https://support.google.com/docs/answer/49114?hl=en) (pay attention to step 4)
>
> **COMPUTER**
>
>
> **Make a copy of a file**
>
>
> 1. On your computer, open a Google Docs, Sheets, Slides, or Forms home screen.
> Open the file you want to make a copy of.
> 2. In the menu, click File and then Make a copy.
> 3. Type a name and choose where to save it.
> 4. If you want to copy comments from a document, spreadsheet, or presentation, click Copy comments and suggestions or Copy comments.
> 5. Click Ok.
>
>
>
The Android/ iOS apps doesn't include the option to Copy comments and suggestions / Copy comments |
117,042 | Does this only work on specific OSes? | 2018/05/11 | [
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/117042",
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com",
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com/users/182696/"
] | I also went to this page to get some answers. After seeing that there is no instant way to do it, this is what I did
1. Download Google sheet files as Excel (the comments will be included in the download)
2. Make one consolidated Excel file for the worksheets that you want to consolidate (right-click the Tab, Move or Copy (select your new consolidated file)
3. Upload the file to Google Drive
4. Open file as Google Sheet
5. File>Save as Google Sheet | From [Create, view, or save a file](https://support.google.com/docs/answer/49114?hl=en) (pay attention to step 4)
>
> **COMPUTER**
>
>
> **Make a copy of a file**
>
>
> 1. On your computer, open a Google Docs, Sheets, Slides, or Forms home screen.
> Open the file you want to make a copy of.
> 2. In the menu, click File and then Make a copy.
> 3. Type a name and choose where to save it.
> 4. If you want to copy comments from a document, spreadsheet, or presentation, click Copy comments and suggestions or Copy comments.
> 5. Click Ok.
>
>
>
The Android/ iOS apps doesn't include the option to Copy comments and suggestions / Copy comments |
117,042 | Does this only work on specific OSes? | 2018/05/11 | [
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/117042",
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com",
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com/users/182696/"
] | you are probably seeking a method which will allow you to copy a cell(s) containing a comment(s) and paste such cell(s) in a way to keep those comments. unfortunately, such a method doesn't exist.
the only way to copy comments from a given sheet is to make a global copy of such sheet:
* go to **File**
* select **Make a copy...**
* choose **Copy comments**
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/AtD96.gif) | As it stands you can't even paste with comments within the same sheet. However, within the same sheet you can, with a little ingenuity, move a section of cells around without losing the comments. The Insert-Cells/Shift and Delete-Cells/Shift options (available by right clicking on a cell or some selected cells) can be used to move a set of cells around on a sheet with the comments intact.
Not the solution to the original problem, but I got here when I searched for the solution to this problem (which I then solved myself), so I figured someone else might too. |
117,042 | Does this only work on specific OSes? | 2018/05/11 | [
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/117042",
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com",
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com/users/182696/"
] | You cannot copy and paste a cell with the attached comments but you can **cut and paste** a cell. | As it stands you can't even paste with comments within the same sheet. However, within the same sheet you can, with a little ingenuity, move a section of cells around without losing the comments. The Insert-Cells/Shift and Delete-Cells/Shift options (available by right clicking on a cell or some selected cells) can be used to move a set of cells around on a sheet with the comments intact.
Not the solution to the original problem, but I got here when I searched for the solution to this problem (which I then solved myself), so I figured someone else might too. |
117,042 | Does this only work on specific OSes? | 2018/05/11 | [
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/117042",
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com",
"https://webapps.stackexchange.com/users/182696/"
] | I also went to this page to get some answers. After seeing that there is no instant way to do it, this is what I did
1. Download Google sheet files as Excel (the comments will be included in the download)
2. Make one consolidated Excel file for the worksheets that you want to consolidate (right-click the Tab, Move or Copy (select your new consolidated file)
3. Upload the file to Google Drive
4. Open file as Google Sheet
5. File>Save as Google Sheet | As it stands you can't even paste with comments within the same sheet. However, within the same sheet you can, with a little ingenuity, move a section of cells around without losing the comments. The Insert-Cells/Shift and Delete-Cells/Shift options (available by right clicking on a cell or some selected cells) can be used to move a set of cells around on a sheet with the comments intact.
Not the solution to the original problem, but I got here when I searched for the solution to this problem (which I then solved myself), so I figured someone else might too. |
187,288 | I have been working on a project for several months now to write a web-based tool that will help me at work. I work at a call center and the CRM software that is used is wretched, we basically have to input all of our information into notepad templates and then paste it in to a description box.
My initial goal was to create a web-interface for the templates so that I didn't have to use notepad anymore. I was just going to write it with HTML5/CSS/JS, both as a learning experience and, if I was fortunate enough, an opportunity for advancement.
As I worked on coding this tool I continuously found myself changing the foundation of the project, attempting to integrate more functionality in my tool. It has gotten to the point where I want the tool to be used alongside the CRM software for every call I receive. I want to be able to simply copy the customer's information off of CRM (simply with Ctrl + A/Ctrl + C), then be able to paste the block of jumbled text into a text box. The program will then pick out the customer's info by looking for keywords in specific positions to fill out a user selected template. The rest of the information is input manually and then the output is generated with the push of a button. The information will also be parsed into a backup text file. The text file will be created automatically based on the date. If the text file for the current date exists, it will simply concatenate the info.
As I wrote my code I found myself getting distracted looking at different coding languages and possibilities. I kept looking back at what I had completed and I was disappointed, I've started over from scratch two times now.
Now for the actual question: I am thinking of starting over, writing my program with AngularJS. I like the idea of a smooth, single page, app-like interface, but I'm scared of hitting more barriers and starting over using something else. Based on my description of how I want my program to run, can anyone suggest how to go about implementing this? Should I look into a different language, or is JS really the way to go these days? I just discovered Dart and am intrigued, but the idea of learning yet another language is discouraging instead of exciting. I feel like I'm missing a pretty big point.
I hope this question is appropriate for this forum. I feel a bit lost with StackExchange, and the last thing I want to do is receive negative attention for a bad post. I'm just feeling a bit lost when it comes to this project, and perhaps even programming in general. Regardless, any feedback will be appreciated. Even direction to a forum for emotionally distraught fledgeling programmers would be a welcome answer. >.<
Thank you. | 2013/02/16 | [
"https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/187288",
"https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com",
"https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/users/81637/"
] | This sounds like the exact kind of job people used PERL for back in the day. Most of it was very simple to set up. We would create a HTML form or two. The information was submitted to a Perl (later Python) script that easily pull info out and merged it into templates. The regular expressions and string processing features will help with requirements like matching keywords. There is also many tutorials and code samples on the net for problems like this. Most modern scripting languages have enough functionality built in to easily do what you're describing if you don't like PERL.
One other suggestion I'd make is to build this thing gradually. Break this application into several manageable pieces. Build the first piece that helps you a little bit. Then the next and so on. Each successful improvement will give you confidence and mental energy to keep on the project. Breaking it into several deliverables will also help avoid scope creep or a feeling of being overwhelmed. | To me it sounds like you're experiencing scope creep. That is, the scope of your app is expanding without you having "delivered" anything usable at all. If that is the case, you might want to step back and meditate on it.
As your question about languages/frameworks, JS really is the only thing you have to work with on the front-end. Now, that doesn't mean that you have to write "raw" JS: consider using a language that compiles to JS, like CoffeeScript, which is much closer to JS then Dart. It's based on JS with some nice syntactic sugar sprinkled on top.
Good luck! |
2,716,101 | How would I programmatically access a SharePoint document library from another machine? I want to recursively scan all the folders and generate a list of files with a certain custom property. | 2010/04/26 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/2716101",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/5274/"
] | You'll need to use the [List Data Retrieval](http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms774413.aspx) web service. Example code using the service can be found on the [Query](http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms774520(v=office.12).aspx) method page. | Vinny is correct. I just wanted to elaborate a little on the next version of SharePoint, SharePoint 2010. There are several client based models for access that essentially wrap the web service calls. There is a managed .NET dll for Windorm/WPF applications, a library for use within websites that is JavaScript based and a Silverlight based implementation.
This [MSDN article](http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee537013(v=office.14).aspx) has links to more information on all three. |
95,217 | I found on [englishplus](http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000231.htm) (accessed on 23 Dec 2012) that the phrase '***kind of animal***' refers to a category of animal.
>
> If you are using an expression like kind of, sort of, type of, or variety of, then you are putting the person or thing you describe into a category. Therefore, such expressions should not apply to one specific individual of the type.
>
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> >
> > Incorrect: He is the kind of leader we need.
> >
> > (You are referring to a specific person in the subject and to a category in the predicate.)
> >
> >
> > Correct: He is like the kind of leader we need.
> >
> > (You are referring to a category, and he is an example of someone in the category.)
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
The confusion I have is that I feel now it is inappropriate to say “Spot is a kind of dog” (where Spot is a proper noun and the name of a certain dog). Instead, one should say “Spot belongs to a kind of dog” or “Spot is of a kind of dog”. The idea that “Spot is a kind of dog” is incorrect follows from “He is like the kind of leader we need” being said correct by the above reference.
Then, I referred to the [OALD](http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/kind). Its first sense for the noun form is: “a group of people or things that are the same in some way...”. To me it seems to validate the explanation at englishplus.com. But then it gives the following examples, among others:
>
> 1. The school is the first of its kind ...
> 2. They sell all kinds of things.
>
>
>
(1) seems to match with the theory that *kind* is a group.
(2) seems to suggest that *kind* is not a category but perhaps a common noun – since it is 'sell'able.
In the *kind of animal* phrase, I assume that *of animal* is a prepositional phrase acting as a qualifier of the noun *kind* used to select the kind required. Therefore to say that I am referring to a category of animals, I use the phrase *kind of animal* and then to show that *T* is an animal of this category, I say: “T is an animal of a {kind of animal}” (ie, T is an animal of a kind of animal). Now, I have never come across such a sentence in my life. Please help me understand the source of the confusion and the correct usage of the word *kind*, whether as an idiom or by proper grammar. | 2012/12/22 | [
"https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/95217",
"https://english.stackexchange.com",
"https://english.stackexchange.com/users/32642/"
] | *Kind* means *type*, among other things. Here's a chart of the [PIE root \*ɡenə-](http://www.umich.edu/%7Ejlawler/gen.pdf) (from which **all** senses of *kind* come, including the one that means *gentle*).
>
> (Note, parenthetically, that words for ruling classes develop good meanings in time, whereas words for commoners -- like *mean* and *common*, say -- don't.)
>
>
>
However, the fact that *kind* means *type* doesn't affect the grammar of the two words. Being *a kind* is a predicate, by itself, and *kind* (or, for that matter, *type*) should **not** be thought of as sets to which things *"belong"*. That's unnecessary complication.
There are idioms like *kind of* /'kayndə/ (*He's kind of shy*). *Type of* doesn't work here: \**He's type of shy*. But they do both work in constructions like
* *What kind/type of idiot would do that?*
though *kind* is more idiomatic and *type* is more formal here. | The noun *kind* means simply *type*. Per the OED, it can amongst other things mean:
* The character or quality derived from birth or native constitution; natural disposition, nature.
* Character as determining the class to which a thing belongs (cf. sense 13); generic or specific nature or quality; esp. in phr. *in kind*
* A race, or a natural group of animals or plants having a common origin
It is very closely related to the noun *kin*, and forms part of the word *mankind*.
Strangely, it appears to have no cognates in other languages outside of English. |
270,415 | I am an owner of a SP (online) Site within my company. We would like to give all users the ability to modify file/folder permissions under the Document Libraries they currently have access to. (*e.g.* be able to make a folder private so only they have access to it.) Where precisely are the settings to manage this option? | 2019/10/07 | [
"https://sharepoint.stackexchange.com/questions/270415",
"https://sharepoint.stackexchange.com",
"https://sharepoint.stackexchange.com/users/23506/"
] | When you create any folder, just click on the ellipsus besides folder (3 dots) -> shared with -> advanced settings. This is the page where you will find permissions on that particular folder.
By default it will be inherited from parent (library in this case). Click on "stop inheriting from parent". And now you can add/edit/remove permissions for that particular folder. Give the person who wants to manage access to the folder a minimum "Edit" level permission on the folder. Or just give "full control" to make someone the owner of that folder. | For SharePoint Online, go library settings and then find the link "Permission for this document library". Then you can stop inheriting and create unique permission for this library. Add all users who need to manage permission level to a certain group and then grant the group with enough permission.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/SfCoy.gif)
Note: It is always not recommended to give too many users the role to manage permission. |
534,675 | I've scoured the internet for 4 hours now trying to find how to get newer PHP Versions on Webmin. No luck!
Ideally, how do you get PHP 5.5 on Webmin/Virtualmin? If this is not available yet the latest possible version
This is for ubuntu server. (They have a tutorial for cent-os but not .deb based) | 2013/08/29 | [
"https://serverfault.com/questions/534675",
"https://serverfault.com",
"https://serverfault.com/users/187641/"
] | Before R2, pretty much everyone were using the free [Active Directory CmdLets from Quest](http://www.quest.com/powershell/activeroles-server.aspx), which are still available. IMHO, they're still easier to work with than Microsoft's, and don't require a 2008R2-level DC. | I found a powershell script that might be helpful:
<https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/Reset-password-for-all-412fbc72> |
4,528,608 | Greetings,
Does anyone know if I can use CSS to change the font size of elements when they are displayed in the iPhone spinner wheel?
The font within the spinner is enormous and my options all look like so: "Golden...AL,36034".
Thank you! | 2010/12/24 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/4528608",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/553600/"
] | I think what you really need is [Channel Messaging](http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/comms.html#channel-messaging), though as far as I'm aware no-one has implemented it yet. It allows arbitrary client side messaging between scripts. | There aren't any built-in. You'll have to come up with your own locking mechanism. You can off course use any of the existing methods that other people have come up with for other things (like locking in memcache for instance). |
4,528,608 | Greetings,
Does anyone know if I can use CSS to change the font size of elements when they are displayed in the iPhone spinner wheel?
The font within the spinner is enormous and my options all look like so: "Golden...AL,36034".
Thank you! | 2010/12/24 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/4528608",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/553600/"
] | Benjamin Dumke-von der Ehe recently came up with some (experimental) locking code for localStorage: <http://balpha.de/2012/03/javascript-concurrency-and-locking-the-html5-localstorage/>
**Update:** the code link in the article is broken, but [here on Github](https://github.com/elad/LockableStorage) is code, specifically mentioning the article. | There aren't any built-in. You'll have to come up with your own locking mechanism. You can off course use any of the existing methods that other people have come up with for other things (like locking in memcache for instance). |
4,528,608 | Greetings,
Does anyone know if I can use CSS to change the font size of elements when they are displayed in the iPhone spinner wheel?
The font within the spinner is enormous and my options all look like so: "Golden...AL,36034".
Thank you! | 2010/12/24 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/4528608",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/553600/"
] | Benjamin Dumke-von der Ehe recently came up with some (experimental) locking code for localStorage: <http://balpha.de/2012/03/javascript-concurrency-and-locking-the-html5-localstorage/>
**Update:** the code link in the article is broken, but [here on Github](https://github.com/elad/LockableStorage) is code, specifically mentioning the article. | I think what you really need is [Channel Messaging](http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/comms.html#channel-messaging), though as far as I'm aware no-one has implemented it yet. It allows arbitrary client side messaging between scripts. |
9,377 | <http://www.neutrik.com/us/en/audio/210_1950958334/NP2RX-TIMBRE_detail.aspx>
It says that it changes the timbre of the guitar so that seems cool but I can't seem to find any descriptions.
Has anybody ever heard the difference this plug makes? | 2011/07/30 | [
"https://sound.stackexchange.com/questions/9377",
"https://sound.stackexchange.com",
"https://sound.stackexchange.com/users/338/"
] | Well I guess that if you have a Gibson, a Marshall/Vox/Fender and a good guitar player, this plug won't be much of a change! | Neutrik generally doesn't come out with gimmicky crap, so this is a little surprising. I suppose it's smart - get a little cash out of the tone-obsessed guitar players, but even their graph does not show a huge different. It's not a scam (like Monster, Mogami....), but probably not really worth it.
You do KNOW that the super-premium cable makers have to be gunning to have exclusive rights to put these on their oxygen free cables! |
9,377 | <http://www.neutrik.com/us/en/audio/210_1950958334/NP2RX-TIMBRE_detail.aspx>
It says that it changes the timbre of the guitar so that seems cool but I can't seem to find any descriptions.
Has anybody ever heard the difference this plug makes? | 2011/07/30 | [
"https://sound.stackexchange.com/questions/9377",
"https://sound.stackexchange.com",
"https://sound.stackexchange.com/users/338/"
] | Well I guess that if you have a Gibson, a Marshall/Vox/Fender and a good guitar player, this plug won't be much of a change! | Never used the plug but impedance CAN make a big difference in how a guitar sounds. Dynamic mics and to a lesser extent condenser mics also.
It would be resistors in parallel to get the impedance change rather than capacitors.
Do some cables sound better than others? I dunno for sure but some cables do sound like ass compared to others in my experience.
The Radial Dragster is another device to alter guitar impedance for tone and profit <http://www.tonebone.com/tb-dragster.htm> |
9,377 | <http://www.neutrik.com/us/en/audio/210_1950958334/NP2RX-TIMBRE_detail.aspx>
It says that it changes the timbre of the guitar so that seems cool but I can't seem to find any descriptions.
Has anybody ever heard the difference this plug makes? | 2011/07/30 | [
"https://sound.stackexchange.com/questions/9377",
"https://sound.stackexchange.com",
"https://sound.stackexchange.com/users/338/"
] | I don't know for sure, but from my relatively cynical perspective, it seems like yet another gimmick to wring a couple more bucks out of gear obsessed guitarists.
I mean, surely if you're in a context where this precise kind of thing matters, you're either recording with access to EQ/amp/mixer channels/processors/DAW that can 'sweeten' your 'tone' to your liking — not just to some preset, arbitrarily predetermined setting — or you're performing with sound reinforcement of similar capability.
I don't know. Really seems like crap to me. | Neutrik generally doesn't come out with gimmicky crap, so this is a little surprising. I suppose it's smart - get a little cash out of the tone-obsessed guitar players, but even their graph does not show a huge different. It's not a scam (like Monster, Mogami....), but probably not really worth it.
You do KNOW that the super-premium cable makers have to be gunning to have exclusive rights to put these on their oxygen free cables! |
9,377 | <http://www.neutrik.com/us/en/audio/210_1950958334/NP2RX-TIMBRE_detail.aspx>
It says that it changes the timbre of the guitar so that seems cool but I can't seem to find any descriptions.
Has anybody ever heard the difference this plug makes? | 2011/07/30 | [
"https://sound.stackexchange.com/questions/9377",
"https://sound.stackexchange.com",
"https://sound.stackexchange.com/users/338/"
] | I don't know for sure, but from my relatively cynical perspective, it seems like yet another gimmick to wring a couple more bucks out of gear obsessed guitarists.
I mean, surely if you're in a context where this precise kind of thing matters, you're either recording with access to EQ/amp/mixer channels/processors/DAW that can 'sweeten' your 'tone' to your liking — not just to some preset, arbitrarily predetermined setting — or you're performing with sound reinforcement of similar capability.
I don't know. Really seems like crap to me. | Never used the plug but impedance CAN make a big difference in how a guitar sounds. Dynamic mics and to a lesser extent condenser mics also.
It would be resistors in parallel to get the impedance change rather than capacitors.
Do some cables sound better than others? I dunno for sure but some cables do sound like ass compared to others in my experience.
The Radial Dragster is another device to alter guitar impedance for tone and profit <http://www.tonebone.com/tb-dragster.htm> |
9,377 | <http://www.neutrik.com/us/en/audio/210_1950958334/NP2RX-TIMBRE_detail.aspx>
It says that it changes the timbre of the guitar so that seems cool but I can't seem to find any descriptions.
Has anybody ever heard the difference this plug makes? | 2011/07/30 | [
"https://sound.stackexchange.com/questions/9377",
"https://sound.stackexchange.com",
"https://sound.stackexchange.com/users/338/"
] | Looks to me like that rotary switch just cycles through different capacitors. It's tantamount to changing/adding capacitors to the circuits inside your instrument. I doubt it's a terribly complicated circuit, so you could probably build a more flexible one with a wider range of values pretty cheaply yourself. | Neutrik generally doesn't come out with gimmicky crap, so this is a little surprising. I suppose it's smart - get a little cash out of the tone-obsessed guitar players, but even their graph does not show a huge different. It's not a scam (like Monster, Mogami....), but probably not really worth it.
You do KNOW that the super-premium cable makers have to be gunning to have exclusive rights to put these on their oxygen free cables! |
9,377 | <http://www.neutrik.com/us/en/audio/210_1950958334/NP2RX-TIMBRE_detail.aspx>
It says that it changes the timbre of the guitar so that seems cool but I can't seem to find any descriptions.
Has anybody ever heard the difference this plug makes? | 2011/07/30 | [
"https://sound.stackexchange.com/questions/9377",
"https://sound.stackexchange.com",
"https://sound.stackexchange.com/users/338/"
] | Looks to me like that rotary switch just cycles through different capacitors. It's tantamount to changing/adding capacitors to the circuits inside your instrument. I doubt it's a terribly complicated circuit, so you could probably build a more flexible one with a wider range of values pretty cheaply yourself. | Never used the plug but impedance CAN make a big difference in how a guitar sounds. Dynamic mics and to a lesser extent condenser mics also.
It would be resistors in parallel to get the impedance change rather than capacitors.
Do some cables sound better than others? I dunno for sure but some cables do sound like ass compared to others in my experience.
The Radial Dragster is another device to alter guitar impedance for tone and profit <http://www.tonebone.com/tb-dragster.htm> |
427,339 | I'm wondering if it's possible to power a microcontroller (e.g. ATmega328) from a Ethernet RJ45 motherboard port. Unlike USB, there is no power line, all pins/lines seem to be data only.
I am guessing I don't have much hope?
Thanks | 2019/03/15 | [
"https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/427339",
"https://electronics.stackexchange.com",
"https://electronics.stackexchange.com/users/29921/"
] | [Power over Ethernet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_over_Ethernet) (PoE) is a standard way of powering things up to a few watts or more from an ethernet cable. You need to inject the power if your devices don't already support it. It's commonly used on things like IP telephones. | It depends what you are trying to achieve. The standard for power devices through a ethernet cable is PoE (Power Over Ethernet) which allow you to drain up to 15.4W, but if what you are after is to power your microcontroller without having ethernet communications, and just harvesting the power from the connector, then it is a different thing.
The voltage levels on the twisted pairs are +/- 2.5V, and potentially you can use them to drain power, but don't expect to be able to drain much current (10-15mA).
The question has already been asked before, and I cannot phrase the answer better than this guy has done: [How could I power an IC over the Ethernet?](https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/55617/how-could-i-power-an-ic-over-the-ethernet) |
427,339 | I'm wondering if it's possible to power a microcontroller (e.g. ATmega328) from a Ethernet RJ45 motherboard port. Unlike USB, there is no power line, all pins/lines seem to be data only.
I am guessing I don't have much hope?
Thanks | 2019/03/15 | [
"https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/427339",
"https://electronics.stackexchange.com",
"https://electronics.stackexchange.com/users/29921/"
] | [Power over Ethernet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_over_Ethernet) (PoE) is a standard way of powering things up to a few watts or more from an ethernet cable. You need to inject the power if your devices don't already support it. It's commonly used on things like IP telephones. | You can use middle Pins 4,5 for DC
4 blue solid DC+
5 white/blue stripe DC-
DC is used on 1Gbps NIC so not permitted but no connection(NC) for 100Mbps NIC may be used .
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/aGQ7D.png) |
427,339 | I'm wondering if it's possible to power a microcontroller (e.g. ATmega328) from a Ethernet RJ45 motherboard port. Unlike USB, there is no power line, all pins/lines seem to be data only.
I am guessing I don't have much hope?
Thanks | 2019/03/15 | [
"https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/427339",
"https://electronics.stackexchange.com",
"https://electronics.stackexchange.com/users/29921/"
] | It depends what you are trying to achieve. The standard for power devices through a ethernet cable is PoE (Power Over Ethernet) which allow you to drain up to 15.4W, but if what you are after is to power your microcontroller without having ethernet communications, and just harvesting the power from the connector, then it is a different thing.
The voltage levels on the twisted pairs are +/- 2.5V, and potentially you can use them to drain power, but don't expect to be able to drain much current (10-15mA).
The question has already been asked before, and I cannot phrase the answer better than this guy has done: [How could I power an IC over the Ethernet?](https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/55617/how-could-i-power-an-ic-over-the-ethernet) | You can use middle Pins 4,5 for DC
4 blue solid DC+
5 white/blue stripe DC-
DC is used on 1Gbps NIC so not permitted but no connection(NC) for 100Mbps NIC may be used .
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/aGQ7D.png) |
35,269 | I recently had to take almost a year long break from photography. Not sure how much I've missed, may be a few new equipment releases or some new technologies. However, I think I am willing and ready to get active in photography again but since I've been inactive for quite a while I am struggling with it. The local communities have all new faces and I don't think at this stage I can restart from zero. I bought a new lens hoping it'll kick me active, but nope!
I know this sounds too stupid, but may be someone out there has been in my shoes and can share his experience with me? | 2013/02/28 | [
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/35269",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/users/2476/"
] | I am not sure about this, but since no one appears to have mentioned it, here you go :
Take up teaching, if you are not fully qualified to teach or dont have time to invest in teaching, inspire/teach some one you know. Let them get bitten by shutter bug. In this process you will also learn more and "could" reignite your passion for photography. You will be surprised to hear many basic questions from them which you cannot answer. | I do not think it is smart to force yourself to like/do photography. You have to get the photography virus back in your veins. You don't get that by just looking at a screen or something like that.
Go outside, take a walk or get the bike. Do not rush yourself to your destination, enjoy your view and try to frame a picture in your head before using a camera. You could also use a camera while going to work or school. Just get off the bike or photograph outside the window of the train for example.
At home you could (digitally) improve your photos and/or print them. Try to give feedback to yourself, so the next time your pictures will be better. Eventually, just try to have fun. |
35,269 | I recently had to take almost a year long break from photography. Not sure how much I've missed, may be a few new equipment releases or some new technologies. However, I think I am willing and ready to get active in photography again but since I've been inactive for quite a while I am struggling with it. The local communities have all new faces and I don't think at this stage I can restart from zero. I bought a new lens hoping it'll kick me active, but nope!
I know this sounds too stupid, but may be someone out there has been in my shoes and can share his experience with me? | 2013/02/28 | [
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/35269",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/users/2476/"
] | 1. Grab your camera
2. Grab some film
3. Take a picture.
4. (optional) Repeat step #3
Also, consider not equating gear with photographing. Having a library card does not make someone a good reader. | I do not think it is smart to force yourself to like/do photography. You have to get the photography virus back in your veins. You don't get that by just looking at a screen or something like that.
Go outside, take a walk or get the bike. Do not rush yourself to your destination, enjoy your view and try to frame a picture in your head before using a camera. You could also use a camera while going to work or school. Just get off the bike or photograph outside the window of the train for example.
At home you could (digitally) improve your photos and/or print them. Try to give feedback to yourself, so the next time your pictures will be better. Eventually, just try to have fun. |
35,269 | I recently had to take almost a year long break from photography. Not sure how much I've missed, may be a few new equipment releases or some new technologies. However, I think I am willing and ready to get active in photography again but since I've been inactive for quite a while I am struggling with it. The local communities have all new faces and I don't think at this stage I can restart from zero. I bought a new lens hoping it'll kick me active, but nope!
I know this sounds too stupid, but may be someone out there has been in my shoes and can share his experience with me? | 2013/02/28 | [
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/35269",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/users/2476/"
] | Take a vacation with your camera. If the area around you isn't inspiring, try going somewhere that has more things that might inspire you. (Particularly if you prefer environments to people.) I always find I'm more hyped up about photography after getting a great set of photos on a vacation (cruises in particular I find helpful as the locations vary, but a road trip could also replicate the feeling). Granted, I think personally it also helps that vacations are one of the few times I get to do clear water underwater photography, which I personally love. | I do not think it is smart to force yourself to like/do photography. You have to get the photography virus back in your veins. You don't get that by just looking at a screen or something like that.
Go outside, take a walk or get the bike. Do not rush yourself to your destination, enjoy your view and try to frame a picture in your head before using a camera. You could also use a camera while going to work or school. Just get off the bike or photograph outside the window of the train for example.
At home you could (digitally) improve your photos and/or print them. Try to give feedback to yourself, so the next time your pictures will be better. Eventually, just try to have fun. |
35,269 | I recently had to take almost a year long break from photography. Not sure how much I've missed, may be a few new equipment releases or some new technologies. However, I think I am willing and ready to get active in photography again but since I've been inactive for quite a while I am struggling with it. The local communities have all new faces and I don't think at this stage I can restart from zero. I bought a new lens hoping it'll kick me active, but nope!
I know this sounds too stupid, but may be someone out there has been in my shoes and can share his experience with me? | 2013/02/28 | [
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/35269",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/users/2476/"
] | 1. Grab your camera
2. Grab some film
3. Take a picture.
4. (optional) Repeat step #3
Also, consider not equating gear with photographing. Having a library card does not make someone a good reader. | I am not sure about this, but since no one appears to have mentioned it, here you go :
Take up teaching, if you are not fully qualified to teach or dont have time to invest in teaching, inspire/teach some one you know. Let them get bitten by shutter bug. In this process you will also learn more and "could" reignite your passion for photography. You will be surprised to hear many basic questions from them which you cannot answer. |
35,269 | I recently had to take almost a year long break from photography. Not sure how much I've missed, may be a few new equipment releases or some new technologies. However, I think I am willing and ready to get active in photography again but since I've been inactive for quite a while I am struggling with it. The local communities have all new faces and I don't think at this stage I can restart from zero. I bought a new lens hoping it'll kick me active, but nope!
I know this sounds too stupid, but may be someone out there has been in my shoes and can share his experience with me? | 2013/02/28 | [
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/35269",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/users/2476/"
] | 1. Grab your camera
2. Grab some film
3. Take a picture.
4. (optional) Repeat step #3
Also, consider not equating gear with photographing. Having a library card does not make someone a good reader. | Take a vacation with your camera. If the area around you isn't inspiring, try going somewhere that has more things that might inspire you. (Particularly if you prefer environments to people.) I always find I'm more hyped up about photography after getting a great set of photos on a vacation (cruises in particular I find helpful as the locations vary, but a road trip could also replicate the feeling). Granted, I think personally it also helps that vacations are one of the few times I get to do clear water underwater photography, which I personally love. |
35,269 | I recently had to take almost a year long break from photography. Not sure how much I've missed, may be a few new equipment releases or some new technologies. However, I think I am willing and ready to get active in photography again but since I've been inactive for quite a while I am struggling with it. The local communities have all new faces and I don't think at this stage I can restart from zero. I bought a new lens hoping it'll kick me active, but nope!
I know this sounds too stupid, but may be someone out there has been in my shoes and can share his experience with me? | 2013/02/28 | [
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/35269",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/users/2476/"
] | 1. Grab your camera
2. Grab some film
3. Take a picture.
4. (optional) Repeat step #3
Also, consider not equating gear with photographing. Having a library card does not make someone a good reader. | I think a lot of people have given you excellent advice, and having taken breaks in the past, I can tell you this. Look at other people's work - go crazy and go wide - Ansel Adams to Ruth Bernhard to Henri Cartier Bresson. Then look at some fashion stuff. Peek into Facebook, Piccsy, 500px, Flickr and others. Flip through newspapers.
Then, maybe look at the DIY stuff - the new Pi camera, the cool time lapse stuff, or Project Mad I believe - where they reinstated the erstwhile Polaroid...
Volunteer - Humane Societies, Cancer Societies - several of these would love someone to take some photos for them!
And then, when you are back in full swing, come back and tell us what worked :). |
35,269 | I recently had to take almost a year long break from photography. Not sure how much I've missed, may be a few new equipment releases or some new technologies. However, I think I am willing and ready to get active in photography again but since I've been inactive for quite a while I am struggling with it. The local communities have all new faces and I don't think at this stage I can restart from zero. I bought a new lens hoping it'll kick me active, but nope!
I know this sounds too stupid, but may be someone out there has been in my shoes and can share his experience with me? | 2013/02/28 | [
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/35269",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/users/2476/"
] | I think the best thing to do here is find a project. It doesn't really matter *what* the project is, but it should be something where you feel like *you're making something*. It could be a series of photos on a certain theme, or portraits of a certain person, or prints for a local art exhibition.
The key thing is that you need a goal beyond "get back into photography", because that doesn't really have anything to hook you. Buying a new lens doesn't do it, because that's not an *end*. And something like committing *N* hours per week to photograph just makes it a chore. So, focus on some result. it could be a grand, sweeping multi-year project, but I think it's probably best to choose something relatively small and obtainable — but, something big enough that you'll be proud to show it to others. | I do not think it is smart to force yourself to like/do photography. You have to get the photography virus back in your veins. You don't get that by just looking at a screen or something like that.
Go outside, take a walk or get the bike. Do not rush yourself to your destination, enjoy your view and try to frame a picture in your head before using a camera. You could also use a camera while going to work or school. Just get off the bike or photograph outside the window of the train for example.
At home you could (digitally) improve your photos and/or print them. Try to give feedback to yourself, so the next time your pictures will be better. Eventually, just try to have fun. |
35,269 | I recently had to take almost a year long break from photography. Not sure how much I've missed, may be a few new equipment releases or some new technologies. However, I think I am willing and ready to get active in photography again but since I've been inactive for quite a while I am struggling with it. The local communities have all new faces and I don't think at this stage I can restart from zero. I bought a new lens hoping it'll kick me active, but nope!
I know this sounds too stupid, but may be someone out there has been in my shoes and can share his experience with me? | 2013/02/28 | [
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/35269",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/users/2476/"
] | If you have trouble to get excited, I can understand that you took the option to get some new gear to get kicked into a new creative mood.
Unfortunately, this question needs a very personal answer, so allow me to try to throw a few options out here. I am a on-and-off shooter and take breaks sometimes for a month or more and then find something that kicks me back into the mood.
1. New gear - you mentioned that already but still - if you find something that really interests you from a challenge or technical point of view this can be really nice - provided that you have a chance to use it properly. Things like lens babies, T/S lenses or pinhole, filters, fish eyes etc can really get one dreaming what one could do with it, but it demands that you can actually apply it where and when you are using it. I normally see a photo shot with an effect first and then try to replicate it - and might get the gear for it.
2. New inspiration - I found that looking at new books and magazines that showcase others creative work always irks me to try something similar. I am mostly not good enough to replicate things, but I always can find some work that is just a margin away from mine and I want to try to move into that direction because I like what they do, and then try it
3. Old gear - we spend sometimes a lot of money on it but maybe do not use it. Reading reviews about the gear that I have often shows me examples and fields of usage that I have not used appropriately. It somehow 'guilts' me into using that gear, but often I find that those applications are promising, since the gear is recommended for this specific thing!
4. New places - If I look at my city's map and see places, restaurants or landscapes that I have not seen before or from where I do not have photos, it makes me think I should go there and take a look at it. The camera comes more along just in case, but I often end up to take at least some interesting shots - since I am interested in the place, not the photo.
5. New people - similar to point 2, when I talk to others about their work, I get inspired to try something similar or get my own ideas about what was mentioned. If the people around you changed, I would rather consider this an opportunity than anything else.
6. Downgrade - The risk of too much equipment makes me always think that I am almost too much in control. Going out with a simpler camera or only one lens can be very interesting.
7. challenges - there are those Photo challenge websites (like <http://www.dpchallenge.com/>) are something that can get you into gear since they throw you a phrase like "Absurdity" and their deadlines also can give you a small kick to get going.
I guess for myself the object is more important than the picture, and once I find something interesting, the drive to take a photo of it comes along. | I think a lot of people have given you excellent advice, and having taken breaks in the past, I can tell you this. Look at other people's work - go crazy and go wide - Ansel Adams to Ruth Bernhard to Henri Cartier Bresson. Then look at some fashion stuff. Peek into Facebook, Piccsy, 500px, Flickr and others. Flip through newspapers.
Then, maybe look at the DIY stuff - the new Pi camera, the cool time lapse stuff, or Project Mad I believe - where they reinstated the erstwhile Polaroid...
Volunteer - Humane Societies, Cancer Societies - several of these would love someone to take some photos for them!
And then, when you are back in full swing, come back and tell us what worked :). |
35,269 | I recently had to take almost a year long break from photography. Not sure how much I've missed, may be a few new equipment releases or some new technologies. However, I think I am willing and ready to get active in photography again but since I've been inactive for quite a while I am struggling with it. The local communities have all new faces and I don't think at this stage I can restart from zero. I bought a new lens hoping it'll kick me active, but nope!
I know this sounds too stupid, but may be someone out there has been in my shoes and can share his experience with me? | 2013/02/28 | [
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/35269",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/users/2476/"
] | I think a lot of people have given you excellent advice, and having taken breaks in the past, I can tell you this. Look at other people's work - go crazy and go wide - Ansel Adams to Ruth Bernhard to Henri Cartier Bresson. Then look at some fashion stuff. Peek into Facebook, Piccsy, 500px, Flickr and others. Flip through newspapers.
Then, maybe look at the DIY stuff - the new Pi camera, the cool time lapse stuff, or Project Mad I believe - where they reinstated the erstwhile Polaroid...
Volunteer - Humane Societies, Cancer Societies - several of these would love someone to take some photos for them!
And then, when you are back in full swing, come back and tell us what worked :). | I do not think it is smart to force yourself to like/do photography. You have to get the photography virus back in your veins. You don't get that by just looking at a screen or something like that.
Go outside, take a walk or get the bike. Do not rush yourself to your destination, enjoy your view and try to frame a picture in your head before using a camera. You could also use a camera while going to work or school. Just get off the bike or photograph outside the window of the train for example.
At home you could (digitally) improve your photos and/or print them. Try to give feedback to yourself, so the next time your pictures will be better. Eventually, just try to have fun. |
35,269 | I recently had to take almost a year long break from photography. Not sure how much I've missed, may be a few new equipment releases or some new technologies. However, I think I am willing and ready to get active in photography again but since I've been inactive for quite a while I am struggling with it. The local communities have all new faces and I don't think at this stage I can restart from zero. I bought a new lens hoping it'll kick me active, but nope!
I know this sounds too stupid, but may be someone out there has been in my shoes and can share his experience with me? | 2013/02/28 | [
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/35269",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com",
"https://photo.stackexchange.com/users/2476/"
] | If you have trouble to get excited, I can understand that you took the option to get some new gear to get kicked into a new creative mood.
Unfortunately, this question needs a very personal answer, so allow me to try to throw a few options out here. I am a on-and-off shooter and take breaks sometimes for a month or more and then find something that kicks me back into the mood.
1. New gear - you mentioned that already but still - if you find something that really interests you from a challenge or technical point of view this can be really nice - provided that you have a chance to use it properly. Things like lens babies, T/S lenses or pinhole, filters, fish eyes etc can really get one dreaming what one could do with it, but it demands that you can actually apply it where and when you are using it. I normally see a photo shot with an effect first and then try to replicate it - and might get the gear for it.
2. New inspiration - I found that looking at new books and magazines that showcase others creative work always irks me to try something similar. I am mostly not good enough to replicate things, but I always can find some work that is just a margin away from mine and I want to try to move into that direction because I like what they do, and then try it
3. Old gear - we spend sometimes a lot of money on it but maybe do not use it. Reading reviews about the gear that I have often shows me examples and fields of usage that I have not used appropriately. It somehow 'guilts' me into using that gear, but often I find that those applications are promising, since the gear is recommended for this specific thing!
4. New places - If I look at my city's map and see places, restaurants or landscapes that I have not seen before or from where I do not have photos, it makes me think I should go there and take a look at it. The camera comes more along just in case, but I often end up to take at least some interesting shots - since I am interested in the place, not the photo.
5. New people - similar to point 2, when I talk to others about their work, I get inspired to try something similar or get my own ideas about what was mentioned. If the people around you changed, I would rather consider this an opportunity than anything else.
6. Downgrade - The risk of too much equipment makes me always think that I am almost too much in control. Going out with a simpler camera or only one lens can be very interesting.
7. challenges - there are those Photo challenge websites (like <http://www.dpchallenge.com/>) are something that can get you into gear since they throw you a phrase like "Absurdity" and their deadlines also can give you a small kick to get going.
I guess for myself the object is more important than the picture, and once I find something interesting, the drive to take a photo of it comes along. | I do not think it is smart to force yourself to like/do photography. You have to get the photography virus back in your veins. You don't get that by just looking at a screen or something like that.
Go outside, take a walk or get the bike. Do not rush yourself to your destination, enjoy your view and try to frame a picture in your head before using a camera. You could also use a camera while going to work or school. Just get off the bike or photograph outside the window of the train for example.
At home you could (digitally) improve your photos and/or print them. Try to give feedback to yourself, so the next time your pictures will be better. Eventually, just try to have fun. |
34,517 | I am getting wildly conflicting information on mulch. Some sources say that it starves plants, keeps rainfall from reaching the soil, grows mold, rots tree trunks, and feeds termites. Other sources say it's critical in a desert environment like mine (15f-105f, 7" of rain per year on average)--that it prevents weeds, keeps moisture in the soil, and prevents erosion.
In the past few years I've tried various wood mulch strategies for large expanses of bare soil: deep (6"+) and shallow (1-2") wood mulch and pine straw. So far I have not gotten great results:
* The ground does not stay moist with any method. The mulch seems to soak up all the water and the ground is dry a day after rain.
* My worst weeds (Bindweed and Silver Nightshade) are not impacted, even with with deep heavy wood mulch. Less competitive weeds like Tribulus Terrestris are prevented, though (thank goodness).
* Termites like to eat the wood mulch, not so much the pine straw mulch.
However, in places where I water (like around trees), the mulch does break down and become great soil. But in places that receive only natural irrigation, it does not break down, and the weeds take over. Why do so many desert gardeners swear by heavy mulch? I don't get it. Why am I not getting their results? | 2017/07/15 | [
"https://gardening.stackexchange.com/questions/34517",
"https://gardening.stackexchange.com",
"https://gardening.stackexchange.com/users/2874/"
] | I think its Ballota nigra; its common name in the UK is Black Horehound, so called because it was once recommended as a herbal treatment for people who'd been bitten by mad dogs. Native to the mediterranean and central Asia, but can be found throughout Europe and parts of the USA. For images and information see here <http://www.naturalmedicinefacts.info/plant/ballota-nigra.html> | Perhaps Bamboo in England has different names...but this looks like HENBIT. Lamium amplexicaule. [Lamium amplexicaule or Henbit](http://www.ediblewildfood.com/henbit.aspx) If you gotta have a weed this is a cool plant. Dandelions and Henbit are totally edible and you could live off these two plants, for a long time. I'll go check out Bamboo's link. She is so rarely wrong that no one can remember those instances...!!
Well shoot. Same family; Lamiaceae...I think the difference is in the petioles or the 'stems' that support the leaves...one has them the other does not. Could you send a picture of a closeup of the leaves and stem of these plants? |
67,418 | I'm relatively new to coding side of salesforce admin. We are looking to automatically change the status of a lead if the last activity date is greater than 120 days.
I've tried a few things, but can't see to figure it out. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. | 2015/02/24 | [
"https://salesforce.stackexchange.com/questions/67418",
"https://salesforce.stackexchange.com",
"https://salesforce.stackexchange.com/users/17372/"
] | To create users in Salesforce from an external client (in this case your C# app), you will need to use one of the Salesforce APIs. Salesforce provides many type of apis (Enterprise API, Partner API, Rest API etc).
Using one of these API, you will insert a User record, that should create the user.
All of these APIs needs a session id, which you can get it from [Partner API Login method](https://www.salesforce.com/developer/docs/api/Content/sforce_api_calls_login.htm).
Here is [an example](https://www.salesforce.com/us/developer/docs/api_rest/Content/dome_sobject_create.htm) on how to create a record using Rest API. | In your code, you are Creating a LEAD instead of [USER](https://www.salesforce.com/developer/docs/api/Content/sforce_api_objects_user.htm) .
go thru the User object in the link and assign the fields in your UI to the fields of the user object and pass it to the CREATE method same way as u r doing for LEAD. |
80,373 | What are some of the ways to research a coin collection you inherited. | 2017/06/03 | [
"https://money.stackexchange.com/questions/80373",
"https://money.stackexchange.com",
"https://money.stackexchange.com/users/57204/"
] | Coin collections [or collectables] in general are very difficult to evaluate. There is very little information that is freely available. The prices are very volatile.
Given this, it is best you surf the internet and do some preliminary fact finding. For Coin Collection, most countries have coin societies / hobby clubs. You could contact them.
Auction house will only be interested if these are rare collections. If these are routine collections, it may not be of interest.
For example one can take effort to collect coin of every denomination, year, mint. There may be quite a few collectors who would collect such themes, however the sale value of this may not be great as these are collected for fun and not purchased.
So I guess you would have to do quite a bit of leg work by surfing internet, contacting a friend who knows little bit of coin collection, contacting local hobby clubs ... and if you determine these are of huge value; then go in for valuation services that large dealers / auction house provide for a fee. | At the pawn shop, you can find initial opinion.
After that you may want to talk to bullion dealer, auction house or professional collector (who has same collections).
Coins could have only sentimental value to the owner.
You can research it by yourself.
All I know is gold and silver coins with history worth a lot more then simple bullions. |
196,731 | I have a Java HashMap with a String key and POJO value in a long-running application, and it's taking up a large chunk of memory (over 500mb, and this number is expected to grow - I'm guesstimating that it will exceed 2GB in two to three months); this is used to memoize the results of an expensive calculation (typically 2-4 seconds, but up to 20 seconds), so I'd like to offload the HashMap to the hard drive rather than replace it with a [Soft/Weak]HashMap with the expectation that external lookup will be less expensive than recalculation; I'd also like to make the map persistent in case the app crashes.
My only experience with NoSql databases has been with DynamoDB, but I'd like a freeware database rather than trying to restrict myself to DynamoDB's free tier.
* The app is written in Java, so I'll need a Java API for the database
* The app runs on a single machine, with no expectation of migrating to a distributed architecture
* I prefer the database be strongly consistent, but eventual consistency is acceptable
* The machine has a traditional (non-SSD) hard drive
* The map's keys are strings (length < 40), and its values are POJOs; if need be I can serialize the POJOs to strings with Jackson before persisting them, though I'd prefer the database handle this
* The POJOs belong to several different subclasses with a common abstract parent class; all of the fields are in the parent class (the subclasses only add/override methods, any fields they add are transient)
* There aren't any security requirements - the data I'd be storing doesn't need to be password-protected or anything
* The values in the database won't expire (I'll take care of stale values in application code - if POJO.someProperty != someOtherProperty then I recalculate the POJO) | 2013/05/01 | [
"https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/196731",
"https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com",
"https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/users/88351/"
] | I use [Apache CouchDB](http://couchdb.apache.org) often, accessing it through [Ektorp](https://github.com/helun/Ektorp/). Ektorp uses Jackson JSON serialization and de-serialization natively. It makes reading and writing POJOs very easy. Each document's \_id would likely be your hash map key.
I don't know what your algorithm is, but you might even benefit from using CouchDB's [map-reduce views](http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/Introduction_to_CouchDB_views) to implement all or part of the algorithm. The results of a view in CouchDB are persisted, and the database handles updating the results for you.
You could probably use MongoDB just as well, but I've not used it personally.
Also, [Apache Cassandra](http://cassandra.apache.org) is a key-value store based on Amazon's Dynamo and Google's BigTable papers. So it fits the map paradigm well. It does not store data as JSON, but you can do this yourself by saving the data as a JSON string. It is similar to DynamoDB, but is freely available as open source. | [CouchDB](http://couchdb.apache.org/) and [MongoDB](http://docs.mongodb.org/ecosystem/drivers/java/) seem to be the leaders of the packs of NoSQL DBs today (IMHO, obviously).
Mongo has the backing of a company, but its still free - they make their money via support services. The documentation is good.
Couch is an Apache project, so free.
You could use PostgreSQL which has [hstore and a json data type column](http://blog.interlinked.org/tutorials/postgresql.html) that gives you a lot of noSql functionality. |
196,731 | I have a Java HashMap with a String key and POJO value in a long-running application, and it's taking up a large chunk of memory (over 500mb, and this number is expected to grow - I'm guesstimating that it will exceed 2GB in two to three months); this is used to memoize the results of an expensive calculation (typically 2-4 seconds, but up to 20 seconds), so I'd like to offload the HashMap to the hard drive rather than replace it with a [Soft/Weak]HashMap with the expectation that external lookup will be less expensive than recalculation; I'd also like to make the map persistent in case the app crashes.
My only experience with NoSql databases has been with DynamoDB, but I'd like a freeware database rather than trying to restrict myself to DynamoDB's free tier.
* The app is written in Java, so I'll need a Java API for the database
* The app runs on a single machine, with no expectation of migrating to a distributed architecture
* I prefer the database be strongly consistent, but eventual consistency is acceptable
* The machine has a traditional (non-SSD) hard drive
* The map's keys are strings (length < 40), and its values are POJOs; if need be I can serialize the POJOs to strings with Jackson before persisting them, though I'd prefer the database handle this
* The POJOs belong to several different subclasses with a common abstract parent class; all of the fields are in the parent class (the subclasses only add/override methods, any fields they add are transient)
* There aren't any security requirements - the data I'd be storing doesn't need to be password-protected or anything
* The values in the database won't expire (I'll take care of stale values in application code - if POJO.someProperty != someOtherProperty then I recalculate the POJO) | 2013/05/01 | [
"https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/196731",
"https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com",
"https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/users/88351/"
] | [CouchDB](http://couchdb.apache.org/) and [MongoDB](http://docs.mongodb.org/ecosystem/drivers/java/) seem to be the leaders of the packs of NoSQL DBs today (IMHO, obviously).
Mongo has the backing of a company, but its still free - they make their money via support services. The documentation is good.
Couch is an Apache project, so free.
You could use PostgreSQL which has [hstore and a json data type column](http://blog.interlinked.org/tutorials/postgresql.html) that gives you a lot of noSql functionality. | You just need a cache with disk persistence. EhCache is a glorified HashMap that supports disk persistence with a host of configuration options. It will probably be the simplest option because your code will change very little. |
196,731 | I have a Java HashMap with a String key and POJO value in a long-running application, and it's taking up a large chunk of memory (over 500mb, and this number is expected to grow - I'm guesstimating that it will exceed 2GB in two to three months); this is used to memoize the results of an expensive calculation (typically 2-4 seconds, but up to 20 seconds), so I'd like to offload the HashMap to the hard drive rather than replace it with a [Soft/Weak]HashMap with the expectation that external lookup will be less expensive than recalculation; I'd also like to make the map persistent in case the app crashes.
My only experience with NoSql databases has been with DynamoDB, but I'd like a freeware database rather than trying to restrict myself to DynamoDB's free tier.
* The app is written in Java, so I'll need a Java API for the database
* The app runs on a single machine, with no expectation of migrating to a distributed architecture
* I prefer the database be strongly consistent, but eventual consistency is acceptable
* The machine has a traditional (non-SSD) hard drive
* The map's keys are strings (length < 40), and its values are POJOs; if need be I can serialize the POJOs to strings with Jackson before persisting them, though I'd prefer the database handle this
* The POJOs belong to several different subclasses with a common abstract parent class; all of the fields are in the parent class (the subclasses only add/override methods, any fields they add are transient)
* There aren't any security requirements - the data I'd be storing doesn't need to be password-protected or anything
* The values in the database won't expire (I'll take care of stale values in application code - if POJO.someProperty != someOtherProperty then I recalculate the POJO) | 2013/05/01 | [
"https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/196731",
"https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com",
"https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/users/88351/"
] | I use [Apache CouchDB](http://couchdb.apache.org) often, accessing it through [Ektorp](https://github.com/helun/Ektorp/). Ektorp uses Jackson JSON serialization and de-serialization natively. It makes reading and writing POJOs very easy. Each document's \_id would likely be your hash map key.
I don't know what your algorithm is, but you might even benefit from using CouchDB's [map-reduce views](http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/Introduction_to_CouchDB_views) to implement all or part of the algorithm. The results of a view in CouchDB are persisted, and the database handles updating the results for you.
You could probably use MongoDB just as well, but I've not used it personally.
Also, [Apache Cassandra](http://cassandra.apache.org) is a key-value store based on Amazon's Dynamo and Google's BigTable papers. So it fits the map paradigm well. It does not store data as JSON, but you can do this yourself by saving the data as a JSON string. It is similar to DynamoDB, but is freely available as open source. | You just need a cache with disk persistence. EhCache is a glorified HashMap that supports disk persistence with a host of configuration options. It will probably be the simplest option because your code will change very little. |
334,022 | Is it OK to replace the optical drive with a hard drive or SSD on Macbook Pro 13-inch mid 2012 (non-retina)? I heard it's buggy.
I have already replaced the hard drive with an SSD and it's now much faster. I'm thinking of replacing the optical drive with a Hard drive or SSD and use it for secondary storage with a Kit you can get out there. However, I heard it's not a very reliable fix and disconnects all the time or something like that? Anyone could please give me any hints on this? | 2018/08/18 | [
"https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/334022",
"https://apple.stackexchange.com",
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] | I have heard of certain WD drives having hardware aggressive power saving features where the drive will shut down after a rather short period of inactivity. Worse, it doesn't tell the OS that it's doing so, so you get into a 'wait race' where the drive is waiting to be told to spin up, and the controller is waiting for the drive to signal 'ready'.
This usually isn't a problem if the computer shuts down the drive to save power: It then knows that the drive isn't ready, and sends the appropriate startup.
Try asking with more detail: Drive, kit, etc. | I have seen a lot of people taking this approach without any issues.
I can confidently say, that if you use reliable and compatible components you should be fine. |
334,022 | Is it OK to replace the optical drive with a hard drive or SSD on Macbook Pro 13-inch mid 2012 (non-retina)? I heard it's buggy.
I have already replaced the hard drive with an SSD and it's now much faster. I'm thinking of replacing the optical drive with a Hard drive or SSD and use it for secondary storage with a Kit you can get out there. However, I heard it's not a very reliable fix and disconnects all the time or something like that? Anyone could please give me any hints on this? | 2018/08/18 | [
"https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/334022",
"https://apple.stackexchange.com",
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] | I have done this on that model of MBP. You need a purpose-built 'caddy', which is designed to house the SSD and to be the same shape as the removed optical drive. (And to stop you poking things through the drive slot.) OWC sells one called 'Data Doubler'.
I had no issues whatsoever, and the Crucial SSD I used performed well. There is a problem with the SATA connection cables on these models becoming unreliable, which can cause data slow-downs or possible disconnections. That might be what you've heard. However, replacements for these internal cables are very cheap.
The other 'issue' is the task of disassembly to get the optical drive out and the new caddy in. If you do not reconnect the various little connectors (or if you break them), then obviously that will affect things. However, carefully following one of the many strip-down videos, such as on ifixit.com, should see you through. | I have seen a lot of people taking this approach without any issues.
I can confidently say, that if you use reliable and compatible components you should be fine. |
334,022 | Is it OK to replace the optical drive with a hard drive or SSD on Macbook Pro 13-inch mid 2012 (non-retina)? I heard it's buggy.
I have already replaced the hard drive with an SSD and it's now much faster. I'm thinking of replacing the optical drive with a Hard drive or SSD and use it for secondary storage with a Kit you can get out there. However, I heard it's not a very reliable fix and disconnects all the time or something like that? Anyone could please give me any hints on this? | 2018/08/18 | [
"https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/334022",
"https://apple.stackexchange.com",
"https://apple.stackexchange.com/users/235323/"
] | I have heard of certain WD drives having hardware aggressive power saving features where the drive will shut down after a rather short period of inactivity. Worse, it doesn't tell the OS that it's doing so, so you get into a 'wait race' where the drive is waiting to be told to spin up, and the controller is waiting for the drive to signal 'ready'.
This usually isn't a problem if the computer shuts down the drive to save power: It then knows that the drive isn't ready, and sends the appropriate startup.
Try asking with more detail: Drive, kit, etc. | The first question to answer would be the link speed capabilities between the controller and the optical drive. This can be view using the System Information application. For example, my 2011 iMac shows the following for the optical drive.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/WODr3.png)
Negotiated Link Speed is 1.5 Gigabit which is normal since most optical drives transfer data at less than this speed. What is important is the Link Speed of 3 Gigabit which is the maximum for the controller. HDD's require at least 3 Gigabit and SSD's require 6 Gigabit to operate at their maximum transfer rate. Anything less will often still work, but the drive will not be able to transfer date at its maximum speed. So, it would be worth the money to replace my optical drive with a HDD but not a SSD. (In my opinion)
My 2011 iMac shows the following for the HDD drive.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/jfkmM.png)
Here the Link Speed is 6 Gigabit, so a SDD replacement would be able to operate at its maximum transfer rate.
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> Note: I do know that 2011 iMac's can accommodate an internal SSD without removing the existing HDD or optical drive. I just used my iMac as an example to make the above images.
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334,022 | Is it OK to replace the optical drive with a hard drive or SSD on Macbook Pro 13-inch mid 2012 (non-retina)? I heard it's buggy.
I have already replaced the hard drive with an SSD and it's now much faster. I'm thinking of replacing the optical drive with a Hard drive or SSD and use it for secondary storage with a Kit you can get out there. However, I heard it's not a very reliable fix and disconnects all the time or something like that? Anyone could please give me any hints on this? | 2018/08/18 | [
"https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/334022",
"https://apple.stackexchange.com",
"https://apple.stackexchange.com/users/235323/"
] | I have done this on that model of MBP. You need a purpose-built 'caddy', which is designed to house the SSD and to be the same shape as the removed optical drive. (And to stop you poking things through the drive slot.) OWC sells one called 'Data Doubler'.
I had no issues whatsoever, and the Crucial SSD I used performed well. There is a problem with the SATA connection cables on these models becoming unreliable, which can cause data slow-downs or possible disconnections. That might be what you've heard. However, replacements for these internal cables are very cheap.
The other 'issue' is the task of disassembly to get the optical drive out and the new caddy in. If you do not reconnect the various little connectors (or if you break them), then obviously that will affect things. However, carefully following one of the many strip-down videos, such as on ifixit.com, should see you through. | The first question to answer would be the link speed capabilities between the controller and the optical drive. This can be view using the System Information application. For example, my 2011 iMac shows the following for the optical drive.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/WODr3.png)
Negotiated Link Speed is 1.5 Gigabit which is normal since most optical drives transfer data at less than this speed. What is important is the Link Speed of 3 Gigabit which is the maximum for the controller. HDD's require at least 3 Gigabit and SSD's require 6 Gigabit to operate at their maximum transfer rate. Anything less will often still work, but the drive will not be able to transfer date at its maximum speed. So, it would be worth the money to replace my optical drive with a HDD but not a SSD. (In my opinion)
My 2011 iMac shows the following for the HDD drive.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/jfkmM.png)
Here the Link Speed is 6 Gigabit, so a SDD replacement would be able to operate at its maximum transfer rate.
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> Note: I do know that 2011 iMac's can accommodate an internal SSD without removing the existing HDD or optical drive. I just used my iMac as an example to make the above images.
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> |
52,978 | I'm play primarily EDH and like to play jank ideas. One thing I've been thinking about is the card [Form of the Dragon](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bForm%20of%20the%20Dragon%5d). Is it possible to give Form of the Dragon the infect mechanic? | 2020/08/25 | [
"https://boardgames.stackexchange.com/questions/52978",
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] | **Yes, you can, but it's not trivial.**
While Infect works on objects of any type, you can generally only *grant* Infect to creatures. Therefore, you have to turn Form of the Dragon into a creature first. You can do that through e.g. [Liquimetal Coating](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bLiquimetal%20Coating%5d), then animate that artifact through e.g. [Skilled Animator](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bSkilled%20Animator%5d). Or you can turn it into a creature directly with [Opalescence](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bOpalescence%5d).
Then you can give the resulting creature Infect through e.g. [Grafted Exoskeleton](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bGrafted%20Exoskeleton%5d). | I searched Gatherer for cards with "infect" in their rules text, and "creature" neither in their rules text nor their type. [Results](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&text=+%5Binfect%5D+!%5Bcreature%5D&type=+!%5Bcreature%5D)
There are, at time of writing, only two results. One has reminder text telling us that damage causes loss of life (I guess someone at WotC thought we needed reminding of that fact), but with the qualification that this applies only to non-infect damage.
The other card is [Phyrexian Unlife](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bPhyrexian%20Unlife%5d), which has
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> You don't lose the game for having 0 or less life.
> As long as you have 0 or less life, all damage is dealt to you as though its source had infect. (Damage is dealt to you in the form of poison counters.)
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So if your opponent controls Phryxian Unlife, it could cause Form of the Dragon to deal damage *as if* it has infect, but it wouldn't technically have infect.
So it appears that there are no cards that grant non-creatures infect (there does seem to be a trend to allow abilities only on permanents for which they "make sense"), so you can't give FotD infect unless you make it a creature. One way to do so would be to use [Opalescence](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bOpalescence%5d), which has
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> Each other non-Aura enchantment is a creature in addition to its other types and has base power and base toughness each equal to its converted mana cost.
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Thus, this would make FoTD a 7/7 creature. You could then use a card such as [Tainted Strike](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bTainted%20Strike%5d), which has
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> Target creature gets +1/+0 and gains infect until end of turn.
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BTW, although you can't give non-creatures infect, AFAIK there's no rule that says you can't have a non-creature with infect. If you make FotD a creature and then cast Tainted Strike on it, and then it ceases to be a creature, it will still have infect. (With Hackworth's suggestion of using [Grafted Exoskeleton](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bGrafted%20Exoskeleton%5d), however, if FotD ceased to be a creature, then since Grafted Exoskelton is an equipment, it would fall off next time SBA are checked.) |
379,651 | I've seen and experienced several examples of mis-moderations. Cases where people with high reputation misuse their power to shut down the voice of others, even when there was no intended vandalism or verbal abuse. Such cases suggest that there is an ultimate authority of what is Truth -- those with the power.
For example, a moderator find an answer "low quality" or even "wrong" and they delete the post where no further input from the community is possible. How does one know if the moderator is wrong? No one gets to know.
It seems that with the right voting model, reputation could be allocated perfectly and no moderation would be needed -- even in cases where vandalism or intended misinformation is given.
Do people think it is possible and/or worth trying? To solve this problem solves a > $1Billion dollar problem for the world.
So:
1. Do you think it's possible?
2. Is the potential gain for the world as high as I think? | 2022/06/19 | [
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/379651",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com",
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] | No, impossible.
Moderators are exception handlers. Moderators handle cases normal users can't.
For example, Cleaning up spammers, sockpuppets, abusive accounts and harassment.
Normal users vote on content quality. Just as it doesn't take a helicopter pilot to see that a helicopter landing upside down is being piloted poorly, most bad questions don't require domain knowledge to determine they're of low quality, and what's wrong...
There's no magical system to suddenly make everything perfect. If that were anywhere close to possible, we'd already have it. | Yes, it is possible.
First, allocate votes based on tags, keeping track of where people have received recognition of authority by the crowd.
Second, reward the voter by keeping a "bank account" of how much they've given their vote. These "credits" can be used to get more power than the standard +/-1 for tags in which the user has a balance. In other words, if a person wants to use some power over a post tagged with "computer security" then they must have a positive balance on that tag in which to do so.
Comments get "claps", not the standard vote. These don't get recorded onto the commenter's reputation tags, but simply send a credit to their reputation account. This creates a distinction between "mental" value (posts and votes) and "social" value (comments and claps).
That's a start. |
379,651 | I've seen and experienced several examples of mis-moderations. Cases where people with high reputation misuse their power to shut down the voice of others, even when there was no intended vandalism or verbal abuse. Such cases suggest that there is an ultimate authority of what is Truth -- those with the power.
For example, a moderator find an answer "low quality" or even "wrong" and they delete the post where no further input from the community is possible. How does one know if the moderator is wrong? No one gets to know.
It seems that with the right voting model, reputation could be allocated perfectly and no moderation would be needed -- even in cases where vandalism or intended misinformation is given.
Do people think it is possible and/or worth trying? To solve this problem solves a > $1Billion dollar problem for the world.
So:
1. Do you think it's possible?
2. Is the potential gain for the world as high as I think? | 2022/06/19 | [
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/379651",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com",
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] | It's not a good idea to try to completely eliminate moderators.
Moderators have greater access to information than ordinary users. We can see voting patterns and view personally identifying information. We need this to be able to moderate effectively and identify sockpuppets/targeted voting, but it's also not information that *should* (or in many cases, legally *can*) be public.
Moderators perform large-scale cleanups targeted at users. It's not unusual for us to delete dozens or even hundreds of a user's posts in one fell swoop after discovering they plagiarized most of their content. A lot of this content was very well-received from a voting perspective, because the person who *actually* wrote it (who isn't the one who posted it and stole credit) did a good job. We correct what the voters got wrong.
Moderators provide a point of accountability. There are a small number of us, and we're accountable to the community. People complain all the time about inexplicable up/down voting. Now imagine that applied to *every* type of action that can be taken, without being able to appeal decisions with the moderation team.
---
That said, reducing dependence on moderators *is* a good idea, because it would allow the moderators to do their work more effectively. Increasing the amount of problematic content that can be handled by the community, while retaining the ability for moderators to step in as needed, is a good thing. | Yes, it is possible.
First, allocate votes based on tags, keeping track of where people have received recognition of authority by the crowd.
Second, reward the voter by keeping a "bank account" of how much they've given their vote. These "credits" can be used to get more power than the standard +/-1 for tags in which the user has a balance. In other words, if a person wants to use some power over a post tagged with "computer security" then they must have a positive balance on that tag in which to do so.
Comments get "claps", not the standard vote. These don't get recorded onto the commenter's reputation tags, but simply send a credit to their reputation account. This creates a distinction between "mental" value (posts and votes) and "social" value (comments and claps).
That's a start. |
379,651 | I've seen and experienced several examples of mis-moderations. Cases where people with high reputation misuse their power to shut down the voice of others, even when there was no intended vandalism or verbal abuse. Such cases suggest that there is an ultimate authority of what is Truth -- those with the power.
For example, a moderator find an answer "low quality" or even "wrong" and they delete the post where no further input from the community is possible. How does one know if the moderator is wrong? No one gets to know.
It seems that with the right voting model, reputation could be allocated perfectly and no moderation would be needed -- even in cases where vandalism or intended misinformation is given.
Do people think it is possible and/or worth trying? To solve this problem solves a > $1Billion dollar problem for the world.
So:
1. Do you think it's possible?
2. Is the potential gain for the world as high as I think? | 2022/06/19 | [
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/379651",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/306958/"
] | No, impossible.
Moderators are exception handlers. Moderators handle cases normal users can't.
For example, Cleaning up spammers, sockpuppets, abusive accounts and harassment.
Normal users vote on content quality. Just as it doesn't take a helicopter pilot to see that a helicopter landing upside down is being piloted poorly, most bad questions don't require domain knowledge to determine they're of low quality, and what's wrong...
There's no magical system to suddenly make everything perfect. If that were anywhere close to possible, we'd already have it. | It's not a good idea to try to completely eliminate moderators.
Moderators have greater access to information than ordinary users. We can see voting patterns and view personally identifying information. We need this to be able to moderate effectively and identify sockpuppets/targeted voting, but it's also not information that *should* (or in many cases, legally *can*) be public.
Moderators perform large-scale cleanups targeted at users. It's not unusual for us to delete dozens or even hundreds of a user's posts in one fell swoop after discovering they plagiarized most of their content. A lot of this content was very well-received from a voting perspective, because the person who *actually* wrote it (who isn't the one who posted it and stole credit) did a good job. We correct what the voters got wrong.
Moderators provide a point of accountability. There are a small number of us, and we're accountable to the community. People complain all the time about inexplicable up/down voting. Now imagine that applied to *every* type of action that can be taken, without being able to appeal decisions with the moderation team.
---
That said, reducing dependence on moderators *is* a good idea, because it would allow the moderators to do their work more effectively. Increasing the amount of problematic content that can be handled by the community, while retaining the ability for moderators to step in as needed, is a good thing. |
111,437 | I need to connect a bunch of Mass Flow Controllers on a RS485 (TIA-485-A) multipoint bus. I will use Modbus protocol to communicate with the devices.
As specified on modbus.org ([Specification and Implementation guidelines](http://www.modbus.org/docs/Modbus_over_serial_line_V1_02.pdf)), the serial bus infrastructure in a multipoint Serial Line system is like this:
In my project, I would need only the Passive TAP (no Active TAP), because the length of my cables are around 10 cm.
From the mechanical point of view, 2 types of connectors are specified. The RJ45, and the D-shell 9-pin, as depicted below.
My question is, **what can I found on the market as Passive TAP with either RJ45 or D-Shell 9-pin connectors?**
Something like this with RJ45/D-Shell instead M12 would be nice.  | 2014/05/22 | [
"https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/111437",
"https://electronics.stackexchange.com",
"https://electronics.stackexchange.com/users/30226/"
] | Likewise, L-Com (<http://www.l-com.com>) makes a DB9 Y splitter, available on the web. | There are RJ45 Y-splitters on the market, to be used for ISDN. These are completely passive and wired one-to-one. |
6,352,681 | I am just a beginner in the application development industry. I know the accelerometer can be used to return the current acceleration along three axis in meters per second squared (m/s2). But I have come to know that an accelerometer can also be use as speedometer.
I want to know how I can use accelerometer to determine distance traveled by Android device between points of interest. If it is possible, then how can I implement it? I have seen a similar question "how do I measure the distance traveled by an Iphone using accelerometer" [How do I measure the distance traveled by an iPhone using the accelerometer?](https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3707726/how-do-i-measure-the-distance-traveled-by-an-iphone-using-the-accelerometer). But I didn't come to a point.
Thank You,
Arslan | 2011/06/15 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/6352681",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
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] | You get position by integrating the linear acceleration twice but **the error is horrible. It is useless in practice.**
Here is [an explanation why (Google Tech Talk)](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7JQ7Rpwn2k) at 23:20. I highly recommend this video.
Similar questions:
[track small movements of iphone with no GPS](https://stackoverflow.com/q/6158176/341970)
[What is the real world accuracy of phone accelerometers when used for positioning?](https://stackoverflow.com/q/6027724/341970)
[how to calculate phone's movement in the vertical direction from rest?](https://stackoverflow.com/q/6291110/341970)
[iOS: Movement Precision in 3D Space](https://stackoverflow.com/q/5550453/341970) | You can combine it with GPS positioning, and filter data with [Kalman filter](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalman_filter).
GPS give rough but stable position, while accelerometer give more accerate but drifting position. |
108,430 | About a hour ago I received a call from a suspicious phone number. They explained that they had received an alert from my PC and needed to gain access to correct the problem before my PC was "downloaded" which was getting ready to start in a few minutes. I played along and they walked me to the event viewer where they proceeded to ask me to open the Administrative Events and asked me to see if there were any warnings or errors because this was supposed to show me that I was indeed already infected and they were there to help. At this point the phone was passed to another person on their end that didn't speak with as heavy an accent and then they muffled the phone and began to argue, at which time I hung up. After I hung up they called back a couple of minutes later but I didn't bother to answer.
My question is, now that I have this number whats the chance that it was spoofed, the number is from Saint Paul, Minnesota area. Also, has anyone come across this before and what was it they were going to ask me to do next to try and access my PC? I might be able to put something in place to lock out any other attempts. I wish so bad I had kept them on the line longer.
As an update, not much of an edit, I think what I found was in the second answer with the honey pot idea. Thank you Andre for the suggestion. | 2015/12/17 | [
"https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/108430",
"https://security.stackexchange.com",
"https://security.stackexchange.com/users/92456/"
] | This is a basic and quite popular scam that uses social engineering to make gullible people believe there's something wrong with their computer in order to sell them some fake security solution and/or possibly steal data from the machine in the process.
The scammers are often based in India and use VoIP providers to call at cheap rates and appear as a local number, and for card processing they obviously use shady payment gateways that don't mind this illegal activity.
Most of the social engineering works by making the user open the event viewer and telling him that the errors in there (which are often benign and to be expected on such a complex OS like Windows with so much services running) are critical and mean that remote attackers are trying to take over the computer. They will then get the user to download a Remote Desktop server like TeamViewer (but TV has a warning specifically against these social engineering attacks so they fall back to some other, less known remote desktop solutions that have no such warnings) to take control of the computer and further show that the machine is in bad shape, sometimes by opening a command prompt and copy/pasting some command that produces lots of output with something scary appended at the end like the "tree" command with the text *Warning: computer infected. Attacker's IP: 192.168.1.1* after it, which causes the window to list every single file of the system and display the text at the end as if it was part of the command's output, which unfortunately is an effective scare tactic. Once the user is convinced they make him go to their webpage to buy a solution which is often a fake security product, and assuming that's done I suppose they either just leave or install a rogue (fake antivirus). Note that most remote desktop services include a way to silently transfer files that can be used to exfiltrate confidential data from the victim's computer in addition to exfiltrating their money.
There are a lot of these scam calls posted on YouTube, you can look up "tech support scam" on there if you want. You can also play with them by setting up a virtual machine; just try to make it a bit fun (like creating actual malware, disguising it as a "passwords.txt.exe" with a text document icon and hope the idiots steal the file and run it on their computer). | >
> My question is, now that I have this number whats the chance that it was spoofed, the number is from Saint Paul, Minnesota area.
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**Spoofing, or registration tricks?**
It's very easy to "spoof" a number with any area code you want. It's not really spoofing, it's just a registration trick. You could walk into Wal-Mart and buy yourself a $30 disposable StraightTalk smartphone, go to an open WiFi, and register it. It will ask you where you're registering from, and where you plan on using it from the majority of the time.
After you create a Google Play account on the open WiFi, you can easily switch to a VPN to make it look like you're in that area.
After that, you will be asked to register the phone. You could enter any fake address and usage area, and it will give you an area code and phone number for that particular set of information you provided. You can register a fake name, fake address, new, fake email address, etc.
And it looks like you're coming from another state. Heck, even if you're in another state, most of your google search results will be for the area you registered in. Your IP address will be detected as being from that area, even if you aren't there. Geolocation will still show you to be in that general area, as long as apps aren't able to access your current location.
It works the same way in most countries as well. You'll appear to be from the registered area, even if you aren't.
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> Also, has anyone come across this before and what was it they were going to ask me to do next to try and access my PC? I might be able to put something in place to lock out any other attempts. I wish so bad I had kept them on the line longer.
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**What are they trying to do?**
Usually, this is a cheap social-engineering trick to get you to buy a faulty product, or steal your information, or both, but I can't really tell you for sure since you didn't stay in touch.
There could be a million different things that they wanted to do. Maybe they're trying to dial random numbers, and are looking for specific errors in your computer. If these errors show up, it may be vulnerable to a specific exploit. But then they'd have to be dumb because this can be automated with a mass scanner.
Maybe they want to sound professional, and since most people don't know about the EventLog, they can trick you into thinking they're knowledgeable and should be trusted.
Or maybe they're trolling you?
Who knows... but I'll leave you with this piece of advice:
**Never trust anyone who calls you up and wants to do something with your computer, if you haven't already asked them to do so.** |
4,314 | I'd like to know where I can turn for a good, gentle introduction to k-SAT (this may be for mathematicians that may not have a good computer science background). I'd also like to know papers that maybe survey or explain current methods used to solve k-SAT. Finally, I'm interested in the best known methods for solving k-SAT. I'd like to get an idea of the best average case and best worst case behavior.
In short, I'm looking for papers that will help someone in mathematics (not computer science) become much more of an expert in k-SAT. | 2011/01/14 | [
"https://cstheory.stackexchange.com/questions/4314",
"https://cstheory.stackexchange.com",
"https://cstheory.stackexchange.com/users/1549/"
] | From the Lecture Note reference thread, we have [this document](https://cstheory.stackexchange.com/questions/4074/what-lecture-notes-should-everyone-read/4075#4075). | This survey book, [Satisfiability Problem: Theory and Applications](http://www.ams.org/bookstore?fn=50&arg1=salelogic&ikey=DIMACS-35), is appropriate for introducing k-SAT to mathematicians. It is not very recent but still very valuable resource. |
107,803 | At the end of the Doctor Who episode Sleep No More, did the Doctor and Clara escape? | 2015/11/14 | [
"https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/107803",
"https://scifi.stackexchange.com",
"https://scifi.stackexchange.com/users/125726/"
] | Yes, at the end of Sleep No More, The Doctor and Clara are escaping on the TARDIS. The Sandmen are destroyed by the gravity of the planet, so they all die. As it all crashes, the TARDIS whooshes away to safety. In the end, The Doctor and his iconic heroics have saved the day...or have they?
***SPOILERS TO THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN IT, ANSWER TO THOSE WHO HAVE***
>
> The Doctor does escape, but he fails to stop the enemy. At the end, the narrator says the whole episode was a way to disguise the electro-magnetic pulses that can chemically change your brain (MORPHEUS process). He then plays a sound (the pulse) and promptly says, "It tingles, doesn't it?" This marks the end of the episode.
>
>
>
In all, the Doc gets away safely but fails to save the day. Talk about running... | Yes, they did. The last scene was the TARDIS dematerializing. The sandmen on the station (except the professor) were destroyed due to the Ge-Force. |
1,983,515 | I have an issue with UIViewController#presentModalViewController being called twice. I have a modal view, and I trying to bring up another modal view, but the second time nothing happens. I suspect it's hidden?
Anyone else ever do this? | 2009/12/31 | [
"https://Stackoverflow.com/questions/1983515",
"https://Stackoverflow.com",
"https://Stackoverflow.com/users/185387/"
] | You can't present two modal view controllers on the same parent controller. To show a second one, you should call presentModalViewController on your current modal controller (you may actually have to do it on a new UINavigationController, however, you CAN present a UINavigationController as a modal controller.) | If you present the same view controller twice, it appears to keep the first instance of the view controller (and the data in the current views), rather than re-load the view.
Note: I'm doing this in Swift 4.0, on Xcode 10.
The reason modal is being presented on top of itself, I was testing a modal triggered by a button in a (Today) widget. |
81,207 | 1. All five statements below are true.
2. None of the four statements below are true.
3. Both of the statements above are true.
4. Exactly one of the three statements above is true.
5. None of the four statements above are true.
6. None of the five statements above are true. | 2019/03/30 | [
"https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/81207",
"https://puzzling.stackexchange.com",
"https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/users/-1/"
] | True statement is
>
> 5th statement
>
>
>
**Reason**
>
> 1 is false(only 5 is true)
>
> 2 is false(5 is true)
>
> 3 is false(both above are false)
>
> 4 is false(all are false)
>
> 6 is false(5is true)
>
>
> | My Answer
>
> Statement 5 is the true statement.
>
>
>
Explanation
>
> If Statement 1 is true then Statement 6 is true; however, statements 1 and 6 cannot both be true as they are mutually contradictory; therefore, Statement 1 is false.
>
> If Statement 1 is false then Statement 3 is also false.
>
> If 2 is true then 4 would be false; However, if statement 4 is false then statement 2 is negated. It is logically impossible for statement 2 to be true.
>
> If 1, 2, and 3 are false then 4 is also false.
>
> If 1, 2, 3, and 4 are false then 5 is true.
>
> Finally, if 5 is true then 6 is false.
>
> Hence, statement 5 is the only true statement.
>
> edit: you can also eliminate statements 1 and 3 immediately because they imply that more than one statement is true while the questions states that there is only one true statement.
>
>
> |
81,207 | 1. All five statements below are true.
2. None of the four statements below are true.
3. Both of the statements above are true.
4. Exactly one of the three statements above is true.
5. None of the four statements above are true.
6. None of the five statements above are true. | 2019/03/30 | [
"https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/81207",
"https://puzzling.stackexchange.com",
"https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/users/-1/"
] | This is the line of thought I followed:
Statement #3
>
> is impossible because of #1 and #2 contradicting each other (let's consider only the last three statements, for simplicity). So, #3 must be false.
>
>
>
As a consequence,
>
> #1 must be false.
>
>
>
If #4 were true, then #2 must be true (by exclusion), but this would imply that #4 itself is false. Then,
>
> #4 is false.
>
>
>
If #5 were true,
>
> then #2 must be false. So far, this holds.
> If #5 were false, then #2, by exclusion, must be true. But this implies that #3 is true too, which is a contradiction, as seen above.
> Then #5 is true, and #2 is false.
>
>
>
Accordingly,
>
> #6 is false because it being true would imply that #5 is false.
>
>
>
In conclusion,
>
> there is only one true statement, as said in the title, and is #5.
>
>
> | The correct one is
>
> 5
>
>
>
Explanation:
>
> 1 is not possible, as only one is true.
>
> 2 is not possible, as it makes 4 true.
>
> 3 is not possible for similar reasons.
>
> 4 is not true as it makes one of 1, 2 or 3 true as well.
>
> 6 is self-contradictory.
>
>
> |
81,207 | 1. All five statements below are true.
2. None of the four statements below are true.
3. Both of the statements above are true.
4. Exactly one of the three statements above is true.
5. None of the four statements above are true.
6. None of the five statements above are true. | 2019/03/30 | [
"https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/81207",
"https://puzzling.stackexchange.com",
"https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/users/-1/"
] | Same answer as everyone else, slightly different reasoning
>
> 1 must be false (if true then 6 would be true and contradict it).
>
> => 3 is false.
>
>
>
> | My Answer
>
> Statement 5 is the true statement.
>
>
>
Explanation
>
> If Statement 1 is true then Statement 6 is true; however, statements 1 and 6 cannot both be true as they are mutually contradictory; therefore, Statement 1 is false.
>
> If Statement 1 is false then Statement 3 is also false.
>
> If 2 is true then 4 would be false; However, if statement 4 is false then statement 2 is negated. It is logically impossible for statement 2 to be true.
>
> If 1, 2, and 3 are false then 4 is also false.
>
> If 1, 2, 3, and 4 are false then 5 is true.
>
> Finally, if 5 is true then 6 is false.
>
> Hence, statement 5 is the only true statement.
>
> edit: you can also eliminate statements 1 and 3 immediately because they imply that more than one statement is true while the questions states that there is only one true statement.
>
>
> |
81,207 | 1. All five statements below are true.
2. None of the four statements below are true.
3. Both of the statements above are true.
4. Exactly one of the three statements above is true.
5. None of the four statements above are true.
6. None of the five statements above are true. | 2019/03/30 | [
"https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/81207",
"https://puzzling.stackexchange.com",
"https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/users/-1/"
] | This is the line of thought I followed:
Statement #3
>
> is impossible because of #1 and #2 contradicting each other (let's consider only the last three statements, for simplicity). So, #3 must be false.
>
>
>
As a consequence,
>
> #1 must be false.
>
>
>
If #4 were true, then #2 must be true (by exclusion), but this would imply that #4 itself is false. Then,
>
> #4 is false.
>
>
>
If #5 were true,
>
> then #2 must be false. So far, this holds.
> If #5 were false, then #2, by exclusion, must be true. But this implies that #3 is true too, which is a contradiction, as seen above.
> Then #5 is true, and #2 is false.
>
>
>
Accordingly,
>
> #6 is false because it being true would imply that #5 is false.
>
>
>
In conclusion,
>
> there is only one true statement, as said in the title, and is #5.
>
>
> | True statement is
>
> 5th statement
>
>
>
**Reason**
>
> 1 is false(only 5 is true)
>
> 2 is false(5 is true)
>
> 3 is false(both above are false)
>
> 4 is false(all are false)
>
> 6 is false(5is true)
>
>
> |
315,311 | Stack Overflow's ultimate goal is, with our community's help, to build a library of detailed answers to every programming question. Together with our brave users, we've gone on an amazing adventure as we've launched Stack Overflow sites in different languages over the past few years.
And it’s going well so far! If we look at the sites as one united international site, it is the second most active community after Stack Overflow in English (based on the question per day metric). Looking at our international sites and the rest of the Stack Exchange network, I clearly see a very important thing missing that every site on the network has except the international ones. I’m referring to the “*Bidirectional communication channel between the company and the community*”.
### How do communities and the company communicate currently?
Since 01/01/2018 (up to 06/15/2018) the following have been posted by employees of the company:
* Meta Stack Exchange: 282 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Russian: 48 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Spanish: 28 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Portuguese: 10 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Japanese: 1 answer.
* Meta Stack Overflow in English: 412 answers.
It seems to me that if someone from the company does not speak the language of a community, it becomes isolated from the rest of the network. We do not want that to happen. Our philosophy of success relies heavily on our community. We gradually make our sites the best place to ask and answer questions on the Internet based on your feedback. Without a way to talk to a community and listen to our users there is little chance for improving anything.
### What was the process?
At the start, there was one dedicated bilingual community manager for each international site. The way those community managers worked with communities differed from site to site. Each international site had different initiatives and different focuses which have almost never intersected. That means CM’s often did the same work in solving similar problems across the international sites. A lot of energy could have been saved by working together.
### Improvement of communications
What if we did things another way? What if we were able to share initiatives between international sites, reuse the experience of other communities, and act based on feedback from all the sites? The first step towards this goal is to set up a communication channel for exchanging ideas, initiatives, and feedback between the company and communities as well as between the communities themselves.
The biggest challenge in the situation is the fact that all of the communities, including the company, speak different languages. It's nobody's fault but that's the reality. Because of this, I'd like to share some thoughts about how the communication channel might work.
Feedback And Initiatives On International Sites
===============================================
>
> **TL;DR**
>
>
> * We need a channel for communication between the company and international communities as well as for international communities with one another. Currently, the best place for this is MSE.
> * English will be used on MSE discussions and international sites will keep discussions in their own localized languages.
> * Company initiatives will be shared in English on MSE and we will need the help of volunteer translators to post translated versions on their respective meta sites.
> * Community initiatives will be shared on their respective meta site and will need to be translated for MSE. Then, they can spread across all other international metas as mentioned above.
> * We will keep discussions on all meta sites synchronized.
> * When a discussion on an international meta site is almost completed we need the volunteers’ help again to make a summary of what the international community said and post it as an answer on MSE.
>
>
>
Over the last few years on SOru we have tried to implement a lot of interesting initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4857/6)), we started a lot of social initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4191/6)), we integrated / activated some interesting engine features ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7095/6)). It bothers me that most of those initiatives have not been even suggested to other international communities. I tend to believe that the situation is the same on the other sites: each site has its own set of initiatives that nobody knows about except the users of the site.
That might lead to a situation where very important features for international communities do not get implemented in the engine because the initiatives seem to be needed for a relatively small number of users (if we look at them in the context of individual international sites). Each of our international sites is not big alone, but, as it was said, together we are the second most active community in the network. If all communities need one feature in the engine, my hope is that it will get the right priority. The first step, however, is to start discussing initiatives together.
### How can we propagate an initiative across all international sites?
When we think about ways to communicate across the sites we need to consider the following:
* The process needs to be scalable. Imagine, that we had one hundred international sites. The process should work for any number of sites with no difficulties.
* The author of an initiative does not speak all the languages of our international sites.
* We want to have as many people looking at an initiative as possible, including our users from various English speaking communities and employees of the company.
* There should be a way for international communities to discuss an initiative in their own languages.
* The outcome of the discussions on international meta sites need to be shared with the rest of the network, and particularly with the other international sites.
With that in mind I’d like to share some thoughts about what the process might look like:
1. The author of an initiative (a CM or a user) needs to post a question on MSE with a special tag (let’s say [international-sites](/questions/tagged/international-sites "show questions tagged 'international-sites'")). The language of the post should always be English.
2. Users who know two languages can volunteer to translate the question and post the translated version on an international meta site.
3. When the translation gets posted on an international meta site, the volunteer adds a link to it to the question on MSE. Also, please add the link to the MSE question to the translated one. It should help us keep the discussion over metas synchronized.
4. After a community discusses the initiative, we need a volunteer who will post a summary of the international meta discussion as an answer to the question on MSE. The summary should be in English. I think it might be a good idea to have one wiki answer where there will be summaries of all international meta sites. In this case, we are able to keep the answer on top of other replies by accepting it.
5. If anyone has any thoughts about the initiative they can answer on any metas, including MSE.
In case of a community initiative, the process is almost the same with only one difference: the initiative gets started on an international meta site and needs to be translated into English and posted on MSE. After that everything is the same.
Having this process allows the company to understand what all international communities need. Also, the process should help our international communities exchange ideas about their own specific issues, share initiatives, and look at the amazing things that are happening with the International Stack Overflows.
Please, tell us what do you think
---------------------------------
We want to make our international sites the best place on the internet to ask programming questions in the users’ first languages. The first step is to create a way for communities to communicate with each other and with the company. If you have any ideas for how we can improve processes in regards to this goal, please share your thoughts!
The initiative on international metas
-------------------------------------
* Discussion on SOpt: [Feedback e Iniciativas nos Sites Internacionais](https://pt.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7308/112052)
* Discussion on SOes: [Comentarios e iniciativas en sitios internacionales](https://es.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/3658/324)
* Discussion on SOja: [多言語サイトにおける機能提案とフィードバックについて](https://ja.meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/2748/%E5%A4%9A%E8%A8%80%E8%AA%9E%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%83%88%E3%81%AB%E3%81%8A%E3%81%91%E3%82%8B%E6%A9%9F%E8%83%BD%E6%8F%90%E6%A1%88%E3%81%A8%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%90%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6)
* Discussion on SOru: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7847/15479)
* Discussion on Русский Язык: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://rus.meta.stackexchange.com/q/339/190033)
**An update about tag naming**
* [Internationalization and localization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalization_and_localization) are quite standard terms with well known meanings, which I think are not very suitable for this initiative.
* Stack Overflow international is a narrow term. The initiative is about international sites. In my understanding international sites are sites which UI is not in English. Today we have international Stack Overflows and [Русский язык](https://rus.stackexchange.com/).
* It seems to me that the shorter a tag name the better. I think, it should be "international" (or may be "international*s*") because of the same reason we do not use "stack-overflow-site".
We still have a lot of questions about naming. If you have any ideas how to improve tag names, please share what do you think! | 2018/09/11 | [
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315311",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/274323/"
] | **Tl;Dr**
The title on this question should be changed to be congruent with the content.
Instead of
>
> Feedback And Initiatives On International Sites
>
>
>
It could be
>
> Feedback And Initiatives On Stack Overflow International Sites
>
>
>
**Rationale**
1. The body of the question first paragraph clearly states that it's about Stack Overflow ecosystem
>
> Stack Overflow's ultimate goal is, with our community's help, to build a library of detailed answers to every programming question. Together with our brave users, we've gone on an amazing adventure as we've launched Stack Overflow sites in different languages over the past few years.
>
>
>
2. The same happens on other several parts of the post. The only reference to non SO site is the link to the traslation of the post made an editor.
3. "International Sites" is very ambigous
1. A site could be interational due to
* The scope, like [history.se], [politics.se], [travel.se] among others that aren't limite to the U.S.
* The geolocalization of the historic backgrounds like those of the sites about language, religions.
* The geolocalization of the community members.
* The nationality of the community members.
* The content like sports, vehicles, etc. that are played / available outside of the U.S. but not on the U.S.
2. A more specific term to refer to SE sites that have a non-English UI is "localized sites".
**Why this post**
1. The OP reverted the tag edit without giving any feedback. I'm afraid that the same will happen if I edit the title.
**Related**
* [Do posts have to be in English on Stack Exchange?](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/13676/289691)
* [Where in the world do Stack Overflow users say they are from?](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/25598/289691) | Please use edit summaries to highlight which edits should be "synced" across all "international" metas
Reference
[answer](https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/315799/289691) to [What is the "best way" to keep selected discussions on all meta sites synchronized?](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/315770/289691) |
315,311 | Stack Overflow's ultimate goal is, with our community's help, to build a library of detailed answers to every programming question. Together with our brave users, we've gone on an amazing adventure as we've launched Stack Overflow sites in different languages over the past few years.
And it’s going well so far! If we look at the sites as one united international site, it is the second most active community after Stack Overflow in English (based on the question per day metric). Looking at our international sites and the rest of the Stack Exchange network, I clearly see a very important thing missing that every site on the network has except the international ones. I’m referring to the “*Bidirectional communication channel between the company and the community*”.
### How do communities and the company communicate currently?
Since 01/01/2018 (up to 06/15/2018) the following have been posted by employees of the company:
* Meta Stack Exchange: 282 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Russian: 48 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Spanish: 28 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Portuguese: 10 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Japanese: 1 answer.
* Meta Stack Overflow in English: 412 answers.
It seems to me that if someone from the company does not speak the language of a community, it becomes isolated from the rest of the network. We do not want that to happen. Our philosophy of success relies heavily on our community. We gradually make our sites the best place to ask and answer questions on the Internet based on your feedback. Without a way to talk to a community and listen to our users there is little chance for improving anything.
### What was the process?
At the start, there was one dedicated bilingual community manager for each international site. The way those community managers worked with communities differed from site to site. Each international site had different initiatives and different focuses which have almost never intersected. That means CM’s often did the same work in solving similar problems across the international sites. A lot of energy could have been saved by working together.
### Improvement of communications
What if we did things another way? What if we were able to share initiatives between international sites, reuse the experience of other communities, and act based on feedback from all the sites? The first step towards this goal is to set up a communication channel for exchanging ideas, initiatives, and feedback between the company and communities as well as between the communities themselves.
The biggest challenge in the situation is the fact that all of the communities, including the company, speak different languages. It's nobody's fault but that's the reality. Because of this, I'd like to share some thoughts about how the communication channel might work.
Feedback And Initiatives On International Sites
===============================================
>
> **TL;DR**
>
>
> * We need a channel for communication between the company and international communities as well as for international communities with one another. Currently, the best place for this is MSE.
> * English will be used on MSE discussions and international sites will keep discussions in their own localized languages.
> * Company initiatives will be shared in English on MSE and we will need the help of volunteer translators to post translated versions on their respective meta sites.
> * Community initiatives will be shared on their respective meta site and will need to be translated for MSE. Then, they can spread across all other international metas as mentioned above.
> * We will keep discussions on all meta sites synchronized.
> * When a discussion on an international meta site is almost completed we need the volunteers’ help again to make a summary of what the international community said and post it as an answer on MSE.
>
>
>
Over the last few years on SOru we have tried to implement a lot of interesting initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4857/6)), we started a lot of social initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4191/6)), we integrated / activated some interesting engine features ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7095/6)). It bothers me that most of those initiatives have not been even suggested to other international communities. I tend to believe that the situation is the same on the other sites: each site has its own set of initiatives that nobody knows about except the users of the site.
That might lead to a situation where very important features for international communities do not get implemented in the engine because the initiatives seem to be needed for a relatively small number of users (if we look at them in the context of individual international sites). Each of our international sites is not big alone, but, as it was said, together we are the second most active community in the network. If all communities need one feature in the engine, my hope is that it will get the right priority. The first step, however, is to start discussing initiatives together.
### How can we propagate an initiative across all international sites?
When we think about ways to communicate across the sites we need to consider the following:
* The process needs to be scalable. Imagine, that we had one hundred international sites. The process should work for any number of sites with no difficulties.
* The author of an initiative does not speak all the languages of our international sites.
* We want to have as many people looking at an initiative as possible, including our users from various English speaking communities and employees of the company.
* There should be a way for international communities to discuss an initiative in their own languages.
* The outcome of the discussions on international meta sites need to be shared with the rest of the network, and particularly with the other international sites.
With that in mind I’d like to share some thoughts about what the process might look like:
1. The author of an initiative (a CM or a user) needs to post a question on MSE with a special tag (let’s say [international-sites](/questions/tagged/international-sites "show questions tagged 'international-sites'")). The language of the post should always be English.
2. Users who know two languages can volunteer to translate the question and post the translated version on an international meta site.
3. When the translation gets posted on an international meta site, the volunteer adds a link to it to the question on MSE. Also, please add the link to the MSE question to the translated one. It should help us keep the discussion over metas synchronized.
4. After a community discusses the initiative, we need a volunteer who will post a summary of the international meta discussion as an answer to the question on MSE. The summary should be in English. I think it might be a good idea to have one wiki answer where there will be summaries of all international meta sites. In this case, we are able to keep the answer on top of other replies by accepting it.
5. If anyone has any thoughts about the initiative they can answer on any metas, including MSE.
In case of a community initiative, the process is almost the same with only one difference: the initiative gets started on an international meta site and needs to be translated into English and posted on MSE. After that everything is the same.
Having this process allows the company to understand what all international communities need. Also, the process should help our international communities exchange ideas about their own specific issues, share initiatives, and look at the amazing things that are happening with the International Stack Overflows.
Please, tell us what do you think
---------------------------------
We want to make our international sites the best place on the internet to ask programming questions in the users’ first languages. The first step is to create a way for communities to communicate with each other and with the company. If you have any ideas for how we can improve processes in regards to this goal, please share your thoughts!
The initiative on international metas
-------------------------------------
* Discussion on SOpt: [Feedback e Iniciativas nos Sites Internacionais](https://pt.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7308/112052)
* Discussion on SOes: [Comentarios e iniciativas en sitios internacionales](https://es.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/3658/324)
* Discussion on SOja: [多言語サイトにおける機能提案とフィードバックについて](https://ja.meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/2748/%E5%A4%9A%E8%A8%80%E8%AA%9E%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%83%88%E3%81%AB%E3%81%8A%E3%81%91%E3%82%8B%E6%A9%9F%E8%83%BD%E6%8F%90%E6%A1%88%E3%81%A8%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%90%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6)
* Discussion on SOru: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7847/15479)
* Discussion on Русский Язык: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://rus.meta.stackexchange.com/q/339/190033)
**An update about tag naming**
* [Internationalization and localization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalization_and_localization) are quite standard terms with well known meanings, which I think are not very suitable for this initiative.
* Stack Overflow international is a narrow term. The initiative is about international sites. In my understanding international sites are sites which UI is not in English. Today we have international Stack Overflows and [Русский язык](https://rus.stackexchange.com/).
* It seems to me that the shorter a tag name the better. I think, it should be "international" (or may be "international*s*") because of the same reason we do not use "stack-overflow-site".
We still have a lot of questions about naming. If you have any ideas how to improve tag names, please share what do you think! | 2018/09/11 | [
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315311",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/274323/"
] | Tl;Dr
=====
[international](/questions/tagged/international "show questions tagged 'international'") is a bad tag
UPDATE: [international](/questions/tagged/international "show questions tagged 'international'") was renamed as [international-sites](/questions/tagged/international-sites "show questions tagged 'international-sites'")
Description
===========
This already was mentioned on other answers ([from me](https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/315461/289691),[from Glorfindel](https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/315312/289691)) but it's was requested to me to elaborate.
[international](/questions/tagged/international "show questions tagged 'international'") is a bad tag for MSE because among other things, it's a meta-tag not because is a tag of MSE but because **it's ambiguous**.
* Stack Exchange users and valued associates are international
+ From <https://stackoverflow.blog/2010/06/09/welcome-stack-overflow-valued-associates-00006-and-00007/>
- >
> As [I alluded to in a recent blog post](http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2010/05/on-working-remotely.html), the way we build the Stack Exchange network should be genuinely reflective of what it already is — **websites with avid international users all over the globe**.
>
>
>
* Meetups are held internationally
Ref. <https://stackoverflow.blog/2012/05/03/highlights-from-stack-overflow-worldwide-meetups/>
* Stack Exchange sites are international (already mentioned on [another of my answers](https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/315500/289691))
+ We have several sites that their scope include international topics
- Language sites:
* English Language & Usage( [international](https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/international)),
* English Learners
* Spanish Language
* ...
- Religion sites
* Christianity ([new-international-version](https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/niv))
* ...
- Travel ([international-travel](https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/international-travel))
- History ([international-relations](https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/international-relations))
- Politics ([international](https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/international), [international-law](https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/international-law), [international-relations](https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/international-relations), ...)
- Seasoned Advice (mexican-cuisine,...)
- Motor Vehicle Maintenance and Repair (nissan, volkswagen, ...)
- ...
---
From [What are tags, and how should I use them?](https://meta.stackexchange.com/help/tagging)
>
> ### Avoid meta-tags
>
>
> Do not use meta-tags in questions. Here are some tips to help you determine whether a tag is a meta-tag:
>
>
> * **If the tag can’t work as the only tag on a question, it’s probably a meta-tag**. Every tag you use should be able to work, more or less, as the only tag on a question. Meta-tags, like [beginner], [subjective], and [best-practices], are not helpful by themselves – they do not communicate anything about the content of the question.
> * **If the tag commonly means different things to different people, it’s probably a meta-tag**. For example, the meaning of the tag [subjective] is, itself, subjective; the same is true for tags like [best-practices] and [beginner]. Best practices to whom? Beginner by what criteria? Use only tags that have a broadly accepted, objective definition.
>
>
> | Please use edit summaries to highlight which edits should be "synced" across all "international" metas
Reference
[answer](https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/315799/289691) to [What is the "best way" to keep selected discussions on all meta sites synchronized?](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/315770/289691) |
315,311 | Stack Overflow's ultimate goal is, with our community's help, to build a library of detailed answers to every programming question. Together with our brave users, we've gone on an amazing adventure as we've launched Stack Overflow sites in different languages over the past few years.
And it’s going well so far! If we look at the sites as one united international site, it is the second most active community after Stack Overflow in English (based on the question per day metric). Looking at our international sites and the rest of the Stack Exchange network, I clearly see a very important thing missing that every site on the network has except the international ones. I’m referring to the “*Bidirectional communication channel between the company and the community*”.
### How do communities and the company communicate currently?
Since 01/01/2018 (up to 06/15/2018) the following have been posted by employees of the company:
* Meta Stack Exchange: 282 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Russian: 48 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Spanish: 28 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Portuguese: 10 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Japanese: 1 answer.
* Meta Stack Overflow in English: 412 answers.
It seems to me that if someone from the company does not speak the language of a community, it becomes isolated from the rest of the network. We do not want that to happen. Our philosophy of success relies heavily on our community. We gradually make our sites the best place to ask and answer questions on the Internet based on your feedback. Without a way to talk to a community and listen to our users there is little chance for improving anything.
### What was the process?
At the start, there was one dedicated bilingual community manager for each international site. The way those community managers worked with communities differed from site to site. Each international site had different initiatives and different focuses which have almost never intersected. That means CM’s often did the same work in solving similar problems across the international sites. A lot of energy could have been saved by working together.
### Improvement of communications
What if we did things another way? What if we were able to share initiatives between international sites, reuse the experience of other communities, and act based on feedback from all the sites? The first step towards this goal is to set up a communication channel for exchanging ideas, initiatives, and feedback between the company and communities as well as between the communities themselves.
The biggest challenge in the situation is the fact that all of the communities, including the company, speak different languages. It's nobody's fault but that's the reality. Because of this, I'd like to share some thoughts about how the communication channel might work.
Feedback And Initiatives On International Sites
===============================================
>
> **TL;DR**
>
>
> * We need a channel for communication between the company and international communities as well as for international communities with one another. Currently, the best place for this is MSE.
> * English will be used on MSE discussions and international sites will keep discussions in their own localized languages.
> * Company initiatives will be shared in English on MSE and we will need the help of volunteer translators to post translated versions on their respective meta sites.
> * Community initiatives will be shared on their respective meta site and will need to be translated for MSE. Then, they can spread across all other international metas as mentioned above.
> * We will keep discussions on all meta sites synchronized.
> * When a discussion on an international meta site is almost completed we need the volunteers’ help again to make a summary of what the international community said and post it as an answer on MSE.
>
>
>
Over the last few years on SOru we have tried to implement a lot of interesting initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4857/6)), we started a lot of social initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4191/6)), we integrated / activated some interesting engine features ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7095/6)). It bothers me that most of those initiatives have not been even suggested to other international communities. I tend to believe that the situation is the same on the other sites: each site has its own set of initiatives that nobody knows about except the users of the site.
That might lead to a situation where very important features for international communities do not get implemented in the engine because the initiatives seem to be needed for a relatively small number of users (if we look at them in the context of individual international sites). Each of our international sites is not big alone, but, as it was said, together we are the second most active community in the network. If all communities need one feature in the engine, my hope is that it will get the right priority. The first step, however, is to start discussing initiatives together.
### How can we propagate an initiative across all international sites?
When we think about ways to communicate across the sites we need to consider the following:
* The process needs to be scalable. Imagine, that we had one hundred international sites. The process should work for any number of sites with no difficulties.
* The author of an initiative does not speak all the languages of our international sites.
* We want to have as many people looking at an initiative as possible, including our users from various English speaking communities and employees of the company.
* There should be a way for international communities to discuss an initiative in their own languages.
* The outcome of the discussions on international meta sites need to be shared with the rest of the network, and particularly with the other international sites.
With that in mind I’d like to share some thoughts about what the process might look like:
1. The author of an initiative (a CM or a user) needs to post a question on MSE with a special tag (let’s say [international-sites](/questions/tagged/international-sites "show questions tagged 'international-sites'")). The language of the post should always be English.
2. Users who know two languages can volunteer to translate the question and post the translated version on an international meta site.
3. When the translation gets posted on an international meta site, the volunteer adds a link to it to the question on MSE. Also, please add the link to the MSE question to the translated one. It should help us keep the discussion over metas synchronized.
4. After a community discusses the initiative, we need a volunteer who will post a summary of the international meta discussion as an answer to the question on MSE. The summary should be in English. I think it might be a good idea to have one wiki answer where there will be summaries of all international meta sites. In this case, we are able to keep the answer on top of other replies by accepting it.
5. If anyone has any thoughts about the initiative they can answer on any metas, including MSE.
In case of a community initiative, the process is almost the same with only one difference: the initiative gets started on an international meta site and needs to be translated into English and posted on MSE. After that everything is the same.
Having this process allows the company to understand what all international communities need. Also, the process should help our international communities exchange ideas about their own specific issues, share initiatives, and look at the amazing things that are happening with the International Stack Overflows.
Please, tell us what do you think
---------------------------------
We want to make our international sites the best place on the internet to ask programming questions in the users’ first languages. The first step is to create a way for communities to communicate with each other and with the company. If you have any ideas for how we can improve processes in regards to this goal, please share your thoughts!
The initiative on international metas
-------------------------------------
* Discussion on SOpt: [Feedback e Iniciativas nos Sites Internacionais](https://pt.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7308/112052)
* Discussion on SOes: [Comentarios e iniciativas en sitios internacionales](https://es.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/3658/324)
* Discussion on SOja: [多言語サイトにおける機能提案とフィードバックについて](https://ja.meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/2748/%E5%A4%9A%E8%A8%80%E8%AA%9E%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%83%88%E3%81%AB%E3%81%8A%E3%81%91%E3%82%8B%E6%A9%9F%E8%83%BD%E6%8F%90%E6%A1%88%E3%81%A8%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%90%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6)
* Discussion on SOru: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7847/15479)
* Discussion on Русский Язык: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://rus.meta.stackexchange.com/q/339/190033)
**An update about tag naming**
* [Internationalization and localization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalization_and_localization) are quite standard terms with well known meanings, which I think are not very suitable for this initiative.
* Stack Overflow international is a narrow term. The initiative is about international sites. In my understanding international sites are sites which UI is not in English. Today we have international Stack Overflows and [Русский язык](https://rus.stackexchange.com/).
* It seems to me that the shorter a tag name the better. I think, it should be "international" (or may be "international*s*") because of the same reason we do not use "stack-overflow-site".
We still have a lot of questions about naming. If you have any ideas how to improve tag names, please share what do you think! | 2018/09/11 | [
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315311",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/274323/"
] | We used to have one CM per site and now we will have only a CM. Many interesting things could have been done in the old days, since we had more resources assigned to every site. However, to me it looked like not much synchronization was done among CMs and so every little initiative needed to start from scratch in every site.
One good point of having a unique CM is that he can have a good overview of all the international sites and try to implement things in all of those that do not have it, while others do.
For example, in [SOes we have been asking to have audits for years](https://es.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/854/83), while [this is in place in SOpt](https://pt.meta.stackoverflow.com/a/4839/28073) for years.
So I think that good points can arise from new debates blabla, but we should firstly stabilise what every community has and try to fix the historical shortages we have.
There is also an historical list of bugs that are critical to the international sites (we cannot edit questions with tags in the mobile site, for example, as reported as long as three years ago in [Accented tags not displayed properly on edit page on mobile web site](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/268826/209901)) and have been there for ages ([see the list we reporte to the CM of SOes many months ago as per his request](https://es.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/3630/83)). | For the Tl;Dr version see <https://meta.stackexchange.com/revisions/315461/3>
Tags
====
We need better tags on Meta SE for this discussion and [New Resources for Our Stack Exchange Network - Part 2](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/313084/289691), maybe for other threads (discussions, feature requests, support and bug reports) too.
Why do we need better tags
--------------------------
We need better tags because IMHO current tags aren't good enough to properly follow / filter matters about international sites:
* [international](/questions/tagged/international "show questions tagged 'international'") looks to be too ambiguous.
* [internationalization](/questions/tagged/internationalization "show questions tagged 'internationalization'") and [languages](/questions/tagged/languages "show questions tagged 'languages'") look to be too broad.
* [localization](/questions/tagged/localization "show questions tagged 'localization'") looks to be too specific as it's about UI related issues.
* AFAIK at this time there are [russian-stackoverflow](/questions/tagged/russian-stackoverflow "show questions tagged 'russian-stackoverflow'"), [portuguese-stackoverflow](/questions/tagged/portuguese-stackoverflow "show questions tagged 'portuguese-stackoverflow'") but there aren't tags for Spanish and Japanese sites.
Proposal
--------
Please checkout <https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/315479/289691>
Status tracking
===============
We need status tracking "tools" for the new communication processes to clearly and timely identify which topics should be translated and the back and forth discussion between English speaking people and those who don't speak it.
Why do we need status tracking tools for the new communication processes
------------------------------------------------------------------------
At this time there is no way to easily know that there is a post that should be translated, if it was alredy translated, the translation quality, if the international community already participated, if there is a conclusion or if there is something that is waiting for an answer from the English speaking people that doesn't speak the international community language.
Chat Rooms
==========
We need an specific and official chat room to synchronously chat about the international sites.
Why do we need an specific and official chat roomo for the new communication process
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Because the new communication process is new. By the other hand, I read about the existence of a "Terminal Chat Room" on a comment on another answer but I didn't hear about it before. Today I wasn't able to find it.
Ambassadors
===========
We need elected international sites ambassadors. They could be the actual diamond moderators but we should know if they accept the resposability to represent their community on specific tasks related to the new communication processes. They should help on disputes / flags, "wrong voting" (i.e. votes about international sites issues from people that don't care about them / didn't notice the thread scope) and inter-cultural sensibility issues.
Why do we need a new role for elected people
--------------------------------------------
Because on the Spanish site election was done one year ago and the new communication process is new. We should know if the current diamond moderators have time and want to help on the tasks of the new communication processes if they aren't able to do the new tasks more people should be added and should be some to identify them as elected representants of an international site.
At this time we don't have badges and we don't have good tags to know if the participation of volunteer really represents an international community. |
315,311 | Stack Overflow's ultimate goal is, with our community's help, to build a library of detailed answers to every programming question. Together with our brave users, we've gone on an amazing adventure as we've launched Stack Overflow sites in different languages over the past few years.
And it’s going well so far! If we look at the sites as one united international site, it is the second most active community after Stack Overflow in English (based on the question per day metric). Looking at our international sites and the rest of the Stack Exchange network, I clearly see a very important thing missing that every site on the network has except the international ones. I’m referring to the “*Bidirectional communication channel between the company and the community*”.
### How do communities and the company communicate currently?
Since 01/01/2018 (up to 06/15/2018) the following have been posted by employees of the company:
* Meta Stack Exchange: 282 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Russian: 48 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Spanish: 28 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Portuguese: 10 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Japanese: 1 answer.
* Meta Stack Overflow in English: 412 answers.
It seems to me that if someone from the company does not speak the language of a community, it becomes isolated from the rest of the network. We do not want that to happen. Our philosophy of success relies heavily on our community. We gradually make our sites the best place to ask and answer questions on the Internet based on your feedback. Without a way to talk to a community and listen to our users there is little chance for improving anything.
### What was the process?
At the start, there was one dedicated bilingual community manager for each international site. The way those community managers worked with communities differed from site to site. Each international site had different initiatives and different focuses which have almost never intersected. That means CM’s often did the same work in solving similar problems across the international sites. A lot of energy could have been saved by working together.
### Improvement of communications
What if we did things another way? What if we were able to share initiatives between international sites, reuse the experience of other communities, and act based on feedback from all the sites? The first step towards this goal is to set up a communication channel for exchanging ideas, initiatives, and feedback between the company and communities as well as between the communities themselves.
The biggest challenge in the situation is the fact that all of the communities, including the company, speak different languages. It's nobody's fault but that's the reality. Because of this, I'd like to share some thoughts about how the communication channel might work.
Feedback And Initiatives On International Sites
===============================================
>
> **TL;DR**
>
>
> * We need a channel for communication between the company and international communities as well as for international communities with one another. Currently, the best place for this is MSE.
> * English will be used on MSE discussions and international sites will keep discussions in their own localized languages.
> * Company initiatives will be shared in English on MSE and we will need the help of volunteer translators to post translated versions on their respective meta sites.
> * Community initiatives will be shared on their respective meta site and will need to be translated for MSE. Then, they can spread across all other international metas as mentioned above.
> * We will keep discussions on all meta sites synchronized.
> * When a discussion on an international meta site is almost completed we need the volunteers’ help again to make a summary of what the international community said and post it as an answer on MSE.
>
>
>
Over the last few years on SOru we have tried to implement a lot of interesting initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4857/6)), we started a lot of social initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4191/6)), we integrated / activated some interesting engine features ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7095/6)). It bothers me that most of those initiatives have not been even suggested to other international communities. I tend to believe that the situation is the same on the other sites: each site has its own set of initiatives that nobody knows about except the users of the site.
That might lead to a situation where very important features for international communities do not get implemented in the engine because the initiatives seem to be needed for a relatively small number of users (if we look at them in the context of individual international sites). Each of our international sites is not big alone, but, as it was said, together we are the second most active community in the network. If all communities need one feature in the engine, my hope is that it will get the right priority. The first step, however, is to start discussing initiatives together.
### How can we propagate an initiative across all international sites?
When we think about ways to communicate across the sites we need to consider the following:
* The process needs to be scalable. Imagine, that we had one hundred international sites. The process should work for any number of sites with no difficulties.
* The author of an initiative does not speak all the languages of our international sites.
* We want to have as many people looking at an initiative as possible, including our users from various English speaking communities and employees of the company.
* There should be a way for international communities to discuss an initiative in their own languages.
* The outcome of the discussions on international meta sites need to be shared with the rest of the network, and particularly with the other international sites.
With that in mind I’d like to share some thoughts about what the process might look like:
1. The author of an initiative (a CM or a user) needs to post a question on MSE with a special tag (let’s say [international-sites](/questions/tagged/international-sites "show questions tagged 'international-sites'")). The language of the post should always be English.
2. Users who know two languages can volunteer to translate the question and post the translated version on an international meta site.
3. When the translation gets posted on an international meta site, the volunteer adds a link to it to the question on MSE. Also, please add the link to the MSE question to the translated one. It should help us keep the discussion over metas synchronized.
4. After a community discusses the initiative, we need a volunteer who will post a summary of the international meta discussion as an answer to the question on MSE. The summary should be in English. I think it might be a good idea to have one wiki answer where there will be summaries of all international meta sites. In this case, we are able to keep the answer on top of other replies by accepting it.
5. If anyone has any thoughts about the initiative they can answer on any metas, including MSE.
In case of a community initiative, the process is almost the same with only one difference: the initiative gets started on an international meta site and needs to be translated into English and posted on MSE. After that everything is the same.
Having this process allows the company to understand what all international communities need. Also, the process should help our international communities exchange ideas about their own specific issues, share initiatives, and look at the amazing things that are happening with the International Stack Overflows.
Please, tell us what do you think
---------------------------------
We want to make our international sites the best place on the internet to ask programming questions in the users’ first languages. The first step is to create a way for communities to communicate with each other and with the company. If you have any ideas for how we can improve processes in regards to this goal, please share your thoughts!
The initiative on international metas
-------------------------------------
* Discussion on SOpt: [Feedback e Iniciativas nos Sites Internacionais](https://pt.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7308/112052)
* Discussion on SOes: [Comentarios e iniciativas en sitios internacionales](https://es.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/3658/324)
* Discussion on SOja: [多言語サイトにおける機能提案とフィードバックについて](https://ja.meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/2748/%E5%A4%9A%E8%A8%80%E8%AA%9E%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%83%88%E3%81%AB%E3%81%8A%E3%81%91%E3%82%8B%E6%A9%9F%E8%83%BD%E6%8F%90%E6%A1%88%E3%81%A8%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%90%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6)
* Discussion on SOru: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7847/15479)
* Discussion on Русский Язык: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://rus.meta.stackexchange.com/q/339/190033)
**An update about tag naming**
* [Internationalization and localization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalization_and_localization) are quite standard terms with well known meanings, which I think are not very suitable for this initiative.
* Stack Overflow international is a narrow term. The initiative is about international sites. In my understanding international sites are sites which UI is not in English. Today we have international Stack Overflows and [Русский язык](https://rus.stackexchange.com/).
* It seems to me that the shorter a tag name the better. I think, it should be "international" (or may be "international*s*") because of the same reason we do not use "stack-overflow-site".
We still have a lot of questions about naming. If you have any ideas how to improve tag names, please share what do you think! | 2018/09/11 | [
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315311",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/274323/"
] | We used to have one CM per site and now we will have only a CM. Many interesting things could have been done in the old days, since we had more resources assigned to every site. However, to me it looked like not much synchronization was done among CMs and so every little initiative needed to start from scratch in every site.
One good point of having a unique CM is that he can have a good overview of all the international sites and try to implement things in all of those that do not have it, while others do.
For example, in [SOes we have been asking to have audits for years](https://es.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/854/83), while [this is in place in SOpt](https://pt.meta.stackoverflow.com/a/4839/28073) for years.
So I think that good points can arise from new debates blabla, but we should firstly stabilise what every community has and try to fix the historical shortages we have.
There is also an historical list of bugs that are critical to the international sites (we cannot edit questions with tags in the mobile site, for example, as reported as long as three years ago in [Accented tags not displayed properly on edit page on mobile web site](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/268826/209901)) and have been there for ages ([see the list we reporte to the CM of SOes many months ago as per his request](https://es.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/3630/83)). | This community-wiki answer translates and summarizes posts from international sites.
Posts from SOja
---------------
Original posts: [多言語サイトにおける機能提案とフィードバックについて](https://ja.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/2748/19110)
* We decided a tag for translated international posts in SOja Meta: [他言語サイトでの提案] ([initiative-from-other-language-sites]). It's a long tag-name in English, but short in Japanese.
* It's a difficult problem that the translation will be late. We considered about a deadline, but Nic-san said it will not work well on metas in [this comment](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315311/feedback-and-initiatives-on-international-sites#comment1033461_315311). |
315,311 | Stack Overflow's ultimate goal is, with our community's help, to build a library of detailed answers to every programming question. Together with our brave users, we've gone on an amazing adventure as we've launched Stack Overflow sites in different languages over the past few years.
And it’s going well so far! If we look at the sites as one united international site, it is the second most active community after Stack Overflow in English (based on the question per day metric). Looking at our international sites and the rest of the Stack Exchange network, I clearly see a very important thing missing that every site on the network has except the international ones. I’m referring to the “*Bidirectional communication channel between the company and the community*”.
### How do communities and the company communicate currently?
Since 01/01/2018 (up to 06/15/2018) the following have been posted by employees of the company:
* Meta Stack Exchange: 282 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Russian: 48 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Spanish: 28 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Portuguese: 10 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Japanese: 1 answer.
* Meta Stack Overflow in English: 412 answers.
It seems to me that if someone from the company does not speak the language of a community, it becomes isolated from the rest of the network. We do not want that to happen. Our philosophy of success relies heavily on our community. We gradually make our sites the best place to ask and answer questions on the Internet based on your feedback. Without a way to talk to a community and listen to our users there is little chance for improving anything.
### What was the process?
At the start, there was one dedicated bilingual community manager for each international site. The way those community managers worked with communities differed from site to site. Each international site had different initiatives and different focuses which have almost never intersected. That means CM’s often did the same work in solving similar problems across the international sites. A lot of energy could have been saved by working together.
### Improvement of communications
What if we did things another way? What if we were able to share initiatives between international sites, reuse the experience of other communities, and act based on feedback from all the sites? The first step towards this goal is to set up a communication channel for exchanging ideas, initiatives, and feedback between the company and communities as well as between the communities themselves.
The biggest challenge in the situation is the fact that all of the communities, including the company, speak different languages. It's nobody's fault but that's the reality. Because of this, I'd like to share some thoughts about how the communication channel might work.
Feedback And Initiatives On International Sites
===============================================
>
> **TL;DR**
>
>
> * We need a channel for communication between the company and international communities as well as for international communities with one another. Currently, the best place for this is MSE.
> * English will be used on MSE discussions and international sites will keep discussions in their own localized languages.
> * Company initiatives will be shared in English on MSE and we will need the help of volunteer translators to post translated versions on their respective meta sites.
> * Community initiatives will be shared on their respective meta site and will need to be translated for MSE. Then, they can spread across all other international metas as mentioned above.
> * We will keep discussions on all meta sites synchronized.
> * When a discussion on an international meta site is almost completed we need the volunteers’ help again to make a summary of what the international community said and post it as an answer on MSE.
>
>
>
Over the last few years on SOru we have tried to implement a lot of interesting initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4857/6)), we started a lot of social initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4191/6)), we integrated / activated some interesting engine features ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7095/6)). It bothers me that most of those initiatives have not been even suggested to other international communities. I tend to believe that the situation is the same on the other sites: each site has its own set of initiatives that nobody knows about except the users of the site.
That might lead to a situation where very important features for international communities do not get implemented in the engine because the initiatives seem to be needed for a relatively small number of users (if we look at them in the context of individual international sites). Each of our international sites is not big alone, but, as it was said, together we are the second most active community in the network. If all communities need one feature in the engine, my hope is that it will get the right priority. The first step, however, is to start discussing initiatives together.
### How can we propagate an initiative across all international sites?
When we think about ways to communicate across the sites we need to consider the following:
* The process needs to be scalable. Imagine, that we had one hundred international sites. The process should work for any number of sites with no difficulties.
* The author of an initiative does not speak all the languages of our international sites.
* We want to have as many people looking at an initiative as possible, including our users from various English speaking communities and employees of the company.
* There should be a way for international communities to discuss an initiative in their own languages.
* The outcome of the discussions on international meta sites need to be shared with the rest of the network, and particularly with the other international sites.
With that in mind I’d like to share some thoughts about what the process might look like:
1. The author of an initiative (a CM or a user) needs to post a question on MSE with a special tag (let’s say [international-sites](/questions/tagged/international-sites "show questions tagged 'international-sites'")). The language of the post should always be English.
2. Users who know two languages can volunteer to translate the question and post the translated version on an international meta site.
3. When the translation gets posted on an international meta site, the volunteer adds a link to it to the question on MSE. Also, please add the link to the MSE question to the translated one. It should help us keep the discussion over metas synchronized.
4. After a community discusses the initiative, we need a volunteer who will post a summary of the international meta discussion as an answer to the question on MSE. The summary should be in English. I think it might be a good idea to have one wiki answer where there will be summaries of all international meta sites. In this case, we are able to keep the answer on top of other replies by accepting it.
5. If anyone has any thoughts about the initiative they can answer on any metas, including MSE.
In case of a community initiative, the process is almost the same with only one difference: the initiative gets started on an international meta site and needs to be translated into English and posted on MSE. After that everything is the same.
Having this process allows the company to understand what all international communities need. Also, the process should help our international communities exchange ideas about their own specific issues, share initiatives, and look at the amazing things that are happening with the International Stack Overflows.
Please, tell us what do you think
---------------------------------
We want to make our international sites the best place on the internet to ask programming questions in the users’ first languages. The first step is to create a way for communities to communicate with each other and with the company. If you have any ideas for how we can improve processes in regards to this goal, please share your thoughts!
The initiative on international metas
-------------------------------------
* Discussion on SOpt: [Feedback e Iniciativas nos Sites Internacionais](https://pt.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7308/112052)
* Discussion on SOes: [Comentarios e iniciativas en sitios internacionales](https://es.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/3658/324)
* Discussion on SOja: [多言語サイトにおける機能提案とフィードバックについて](https://ja.meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/2748/%E5%A4%9A%E8%A8%80%E8%AA%9E%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%83%88%E3%81%AB%E3%81%8A%E3%81%91%E3%82%8B%E6%A9%9F%E8%83%BD%E6%8F%90%E6%A1%88%E3%81%A8%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%90%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6)
* Discussion on SOru: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7847/15479)
* Discussion on Русский Язык: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://rus.meta.stackexchange.com/q/339/190033)
**An update about tag naming**
* [Internationalization and localization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalization_and_localization) are quite standard terms with well known meanings, which I think are not very suitable for this initiative.
* Stack Overflow international is a narrow term. The initiative is about international sites. In my understanding international sites are sites which UI is not in English. Today we have international Stack Overflows and [Русский язык](https://rus.stackexchange.com/).
* It seems to me that the shorter a tag name the better. I think, it should be "international" (or may be "international*s*") because of the same reason we do not use "stack-overflow-site".
We still have a lot of questions about naming. If you have any ideas how to improve tag names, please share what do you think! | 2018/09/11 | [
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315311",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/274323/"
] | I would use a tag which is slightly more specific than the ambiguous [international](/questions/tagged/international "show questions tagged 'international'"). Perhaps [international-stack-overflow](/questions/tagged/international-stack-overflow "show questions tagged 'international-stack-overflow'"), [international-sites](/questions/tagged/international-sites "show questions tagged 'international-sites'") or even [international-site-initiatives](/questions/tagged/international-site-initiatives "show questions tagged 'international-site-initiatives'")? And give it the red moderator-only tag formatting, this makes it more recognizable and official. (The same goes for [announcements](/questions/tagged/announcements "show questions tagged 'announcements'"), BTW.)
Between step 1. and 2., you could post a stub on each of the local metas announcing the MSE post and asking for translators. Make it [featured](/questions/tagged/featured "show questions tagged 'featured'") so that local users are sure to read it even if they don't visit MSE; not everybody does and even if they do, they might not be able or willing to do the translation. | Please use edit summaries to highlight which edits should be "synced" across all "international" metas
Reference
[answer](https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/315799/289691) to [What is the "best way" to keep selected discussions on all meta sites synchronized?](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/315770/289691) |
315,311 | Stack Overflow's ultimate goal is, with our community's help, to build a library of detailed answers to every programming question. Together with our brave users, we've gone on an amazing adventure as we've launched Stack Overflow sites in different languages over the past few years.
And it’s going well so far! If we look at the sites as one united international site, it is the second most active community after Stack Overflow in English (based on the question per day metric). Looking at our international sites and the rest of the Stack Exchange network, I clearly see a very important thing missing that every site on the network has except the international ones. I’m referring to the “*Bidirectional communication channel between the company and the community*”.
### How do communities and the company communicate currently?
Since 01/01/2018 (up to 06/15/2018) the following have been posted by employees of the company:
* Meta Stack Exchange: 282 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Russian: 48 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Spanish: 28 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Portuguese: 10 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Japanese: 1 answer.
* Meta Stack Overflow in English: 412 answers.
It seems to me that if someone from the company does not speak the language of a community, it becomes isolated from the rest of the network. We do not want that to happen. Our philosophy of success relies heavily on our community. We gradually make our sites the best place to ask and answer questions on the Internet based on your feedback. Without a way to talk to a community and listen to our users there is little chance for improving anything.
### What was the process?
At the start, there was one dedicated bilingual community manager for each international site. The way those community managers worked with communities differed from site to site. Each international site had different initiatives and different focuses which have almost never intersected. That means CM’s often did the same work in solving similar problems across the international sites. A lot of energy could have been saved by working together.
### Improvement of communications
What if we did things another way? What if we were able to share initiatives between international sites, reuse the experience of other communities, and act based on feedback from all the sites? The first step towards this goal is to set up a communication channel for exchanging ideas, initiatives, and feedback between the company and communities as well as between the communities themselves.
The biggest challenge in the situation is the fact that all of the communities, including the company, speak different languages. It's nobody's fault but that's the reality. Because of this, I'd like to share some thoughts about how the communication channel might work.
Feedback And Initiatives On International Sites
===============================================
>
> **TL;DR**
>
>
> * We need a channel for communication between the company and international communities as well as for international communities with one another. Currently, the best place for this is MSE.
> * English will be used on MSE discussions and international sites will keep discussions in their own localized languages.
> * Company initiatives will be shared in English on MSE and we will need the help of volunteer translators to post translated versions on their respective meta sites.
> * Community initiatives will be shared on their respective meta site and will need to be translated for MSE. Then, they can spread across all other international metas as mentioned above.
> * We will keep discussions on all meta sites synchronized.
> * When a discussion on an international meta site is almost completed we need the volunteers’ help again to make a summary of what the international community said and post it as an answer on MSE.
>
>
>
Over the last few years on SOru we have tried to implement a lot of interesting initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4857/6)), we started a lot of social initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4191/6)), we integrated / activated some interesting engine features ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7095/6)). It bothers me that most of those initiatives have not been even suggested to other international communities. I tend to believe that the situation is the same on the other sites: each site has its own set of initiatives that nobody knows about except the users of the site.
That might lead to a situation where very important features for international communities do not get implemented in the engine because the initiatives seem to be needed for a relatively small number of users (if we look at them in the context of individual international sites). Each of our international sites is not big alone, but, as it was said, together we are the second most active community in the network. If all communities need one feature in the engine, my hope is that it will get the right priority. The first step, however, is to start discussing initiatives together.
### How can we propagate an initiative across all international sites?
When we think about ways to communicate across the sites we need to consider the following:
* The process needs to be scalable. Imagine, that we had one hundred international sites. The process should work for any number of sites with no difficulties.
* The author of an initiative does not speak all the languages of our international sites.
* We want to have as many people looking at an initiative as possible, including our users from various English speaking communities and employees of the company.
* There should be a way for international communities to discuss an initiative in their own languages.
* The outcome of the discussions on international meta sites need to be shared with the rest of the network, and particularly with the other international sites.
With that in mind I’d like to share some thoughts about what the process might look like:
1. The author of an initiative (a CM or a user) needs to post a question on MSE with a special tag (let’s say [international-sites](/questions/tagged/international-sites "show questions tagged 'international-sites'")). The language of the post should always be English.
2. Users who know two languages can volunteer to translate the question and post the translated version on an international meta site.
3. When the translation gets posted on an international meta site, the volunteer adds a link to it to the question on MSE. Also, please add the link to the MSE question to the translated one. It should help us keep the discussion over metas synchronized.
4. After a community discusses the initiative, we need a volunteer who will post a summary of the international meta discussion as an answer to the question on MSE. The summary should be in English. I think it might be a good idea to have one wiki answer where there will be summaries of all international meta sites. In this case, we are able to keep the answer on top of other replies by accepting it.
5. If anyone has any thoughts about the initiative they can answer on any metas, including MSE.
In case of a community initiative, the process is almost the same with only one difference: the initiative gets started on an international meta site and needs to be translated into English and posted on MSE. After that everything is the same.
Having this process allows the company to understand what all international communities need. Also, the process should help our international communities exchange ideas about their own specific issues, share initiatives, and look at the amazing things that are happening with the International Stack Overflows.
Please, tell us what do you think
---------------------------------
We want to make our international sites the best place on the internet to ask programming questions in the users’ first languages. The first step is to create a way for communities to communicate with each other and with the company. If you have any ideas for how we can improve processes in regards to this goal, please share your thoughts!
The initiative on international metas
-------------------------------------
* Discussion on SOpt: [Feedback e Iniciativas nos Sites Internacionais](https://pt.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7308/112052)
* Discussion on SOes: [Comentarios e iniciativas en sitios internacionales](https://es.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/3658/324)
* Discussion on SOja: [多言語サイトにおける機能提案とフィードバックについて](https://ja.meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/2748/%E5%A4%9A%E8%A8%80%E8%AA%9E%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%83%88%E3%81%AB%E3%81%8A%E3%81%91%E3%82%8B%E6%A9%9F%E8%83%BD%E6%8F%90%E6%A1%88%E3%81%A8%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%90%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6)
* Discussion on SOru: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7847/15479)
* Discussion on Русский Язык: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://rus.meta.stackexchange.com/q/339/190033)
**An update about tag naming**
* [Internationalization and localization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalization_and_localization) are quite standard terms with well known meanings, which I think are not very suitable for this initiative.
* Stack Overflow international is a narrow term. The initiative is about international sites. In my understanding international sites are sites which UI is not in English. Today we have international Stack Overflows and [Русский язык](https://rus.stackexchange.com/).
* It seems to me that the shorter a tag name the better. I think, it should be "international" (or may be "international*s*") because of the same reason we do not use "stack-overflow-site".
We still have a lot of questions about naming. If you have any ideas how to improve tag names, please share what do you think! | 2018/09/11 | [
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315311",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/274323/"
] | It is good to see the company looking closer at its international sites, and one cannot disagree that a "bidirectional communication channel between the company and the community" is missing. I believe the process you are suggesting has its problems, but I appreciate your attention.
I will speak for myself as a moderator at Stack Overflow in Português, but it may partially apply to other international sites too – yes, as you said, those sites and communities could really benefit from more integration.
When we had a dedicated CM, communication with the company existed, which was good, but still it wasn't like MSO and MSE, because all company opinion was filtered by a single employee. We missed the diversity of opinions and the process unfolding that you see on the "mother" metas, which in my opinion is an important part of the Stack Overflow experience. Now that we have a single CM for all international sites, I am glad to see you try to avoid that single-channel issue.
The meta cross-posting procedure you suggest could work for some discussions, but translation is the weak spot, specially for answers. This very question has been translated into MSOpt and there are no answers there still.
I am asking myself if MSE is the best or rather the only place to discuss issues specific to international sites. Your suggestion addresses one level of cross-community and company-community exchanges, which is the public level. In fact we always had MSE for that, minus a protocol and the official incentive you're adding. But we're still missing a place for international mod-mod and company-mod exchanges. The existing places for that, the Teacher's Lounge chat room and Stack Moderators, feel too noisy to me. The SOpt mod team rarely use those. I don't know about the mods of other international sites, but I'd like to hear from them.
So, I believe you should consider improving on those missing channels of communication too. Maybe a separate Stack Moderators instance only for international sites? Maybe including some other, regular, users too (by rep, activity, whatever)? Or even a chat room, focused on integrating those sites and communities. Those would have to be in English, while most users would not be native speakers, but I think it could work. | This community-wiki answer translates and summarizes posts from international sites.
Posts from SOja
---------------
Original posts: [多言語サイトにおける機能提案とフィードバックについて](https://ja.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/2748/19110)
* We decided a tag for translated international posts in SOja Meta: [他言語サイトでの提案] ([initiative-from-other-language-sites]). It's a long tag-name in English, but short in Japanese.
* It's a difficult problem that the translation will be late. We considered about a deadline, but Nic-san said it will not work well on metas in [this comment](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315311/feedback-and-initiatives-on-international-sites#comment1033461_315311). |
315,311 | Stack Overflow's ultimate goal is, with our community's help, to build a library of detailed answers to every programming question. Together with our brave users, we've gone on an amazing adventure as we've launched Stack Overflow sites in different languages over the past few years.
And it’s going well so far! If we look at the sites as one united international site, it is the second most active community after Stack Overflow in English (based on the question per day metric). Looking at our international sites and the rest of the Stack Exchange network, I clearly see a very important thing missing that every site on the network has except the international ones. I’m referring to the “*Bidirectional communication channel between the company and the community*”.
### How do communities and the company communicate currently?
Since 01/01/2018 (up to 06/15/2018) the following have been posted by employees of the company:
* Meta Stack Exchange: 282 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Russian: 48 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Spanish: 28 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Portuguese: 10 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Japanese: 1 answer.
* Meta Stack Overflow in English: 412 answers.
It seems to me that if someone from the company does not speak the language of a community, it becomes isolated from the rest of the network. We do not want that to happen. Our philosophy of success relies heavily on our community. We gradually make our sites the best place to ask and answer questions on the Internet based on your feedback. Without a way to talk to a community and listen to our users there is little chance for improving anything.
### What was the process?
At the start, there was one dedicated bilingual community manager for each international site. The way those community managers worked with communities differed from site to site. Each international site had different initiatives and different focuses which have almost never intersected. That means CM’s often did the same work in solving similar problems across the international sites. A lot of energy could have been saved by working together.
### Improvement of communications
What if we did things another way? What if we were able to share initiatives between international sites, reuse the experience of other communities, and act based on feedback from all the sites? The first step towards this goal is to set up a communication channel for exchanging ideas, initiatives, and feedback between the company and communities as well as between the communities themselves.
The biggest challenge in the situation is the fact that all of the communities, including the company, speak different languages. It's nobody's fault but that's the reality. Because of this, I'd like to share some thoughts about how the communication channel might work.
Feedback And Initiatives On International Sites
===============================================
>
> **TL;DR**
>
>
> * We need a channel for communication between the company and international communities as well as for international communities with one another. Currently, the best place for this is MSE.
> * English will be used on MSE discussions and international sites will keep discussions in their own localized languages.
> * Company initiatives will be shared in English on MSE and we will need the help of volunteer translators to post translated versions on their respective meta sites.
> * Community initiatives will be shared on their respective meta site and will need to be translated for MSE. Then, they can spread across all other international metas as mentioned above.
> * We will keep discussions on all meta sites synchronized.
> * When a discussion on an international meta site is almost completed we need the volunteers’ help again to make a summary of what the international community said and post it as an answer on MSE.
>
>
>
Over the last few years on SOru we have tried to implement a lot of interesting initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4857/6)), we started a lot of social initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4191/6)), we integrated / activated some interesting engine features ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7095/6)). It bothers me that most of those initiatives have not been even suggested to other international communities. I tend to believe that the situation is the same on the other sites: each site has its own set of initiatives that nobody knows about except the users of the site.
That might lead to a situation where very important features for international communities do not get implemented in the engine because the initiatives seem to be needed for a relatively small number of users (if we look at them in the context of individual international sites). Each of our international sites is not big alone, but, as it was said, together we are the second most active community in the network. If all communities need one feature in the engine, my hope is that it will get the right priority. The first step, however, is to start discussing initiatives together.
### How can we propagate an initiative across all international sites?
When we think about ways to communicate across the sites we need to consider the following:
* The process needs to be scalable. Imagine, that we had one hundred international sites. The process should work for any number of sites with no difficulties.
* The author of an initiative does not speak all the languages of our international sites.
* We want to have as many people looking at an initiative as possible, including our users from various English speaking communities and employees of the company.
* There should be a way for international communities to discuss an initiative in their own languages.
* The outcome of the discussions on international meta sites need to be shared with the rest of the network, and particularly with the other international sites.
With that in mind I’d like to share some thoughts about what the process might look like:
1. The author of an initiative (a CM or a user) needs to post a question on MSE with a special tag (let’s say [international-sites](/questions/tagged/international-sites "show questions tagged 'international-sites'")). The language of the post should always be English.
2. Users who know two languages can volunteer to translate the question and post the translated version on an international meta site.
3. When the translation gets posted on an international meta site, the volunteer adds a link to it to the question on MSE. Also, please add the link to the MSE question to the translated one. It should help us keep the discussion over metas synchronized.
4. After a community discusses the initiative, we need a volunteer who will post a summary of the international meta discussion as an answer to the question on MSE. The summary should be in English. I think it might be a good idea to have one wiki answer where there will be summaries of all international meta sites. In this case, we are able to keep the answer on top of other replies by accepting it.
5. If anyone has any thoughts about the initiative they can answer on any metas, including MSE.
In case of a community initiative, the process is almost the same with only one difference: the initiative gets started on an international meta site and needs to be translated into English and posted on MSE. After that everything is the same.
Having this process allows the company to understand what all international communities need. Also, the process should help our international communities exchange ideas about their own specific issues, share initiatives, and look at the amazing things that are happening with the International Stack Overflows.
Please, tell us what do you think
---------------------------------
We want to make our international sites the best place on the internet to ask programming questions in the users’ first languages. The first step is to create a way for communities to communicate with each other and with the company. If you have any ideas for how we can improve processes in regards to this goal, please share your thoughts!
The initiative on international metas
-------------------------------------
* Discussion on SOpt: [Feedback e Iniciativas nos Sites Internacionais](https://pt.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7308/112052)
* Discussion on SOes: [Comentarios e iniciativas en sitios internacionales](https://es.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/3658/324)
* Discussion on SOja: [多言語サイトにおける機能提案とフィードバックについて](https://ja.meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/2748/%E5%A4%9A%E8%A8%80%E8%AA%9E%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%83%88%E3%81%AB%E3%81%8A%E3%81%91%E3%82%8B%E6%A9%9F%E8%83%BD%E6%8F%90%E6%A1%88%E3%81%A8%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%90%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6)
* Discussion on SOru: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7847/15479)
* Discussion on Русский Язык: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://rus.meta.stackexchange.com/q/339/190033)
**An update about tag naming**
* [Internationalization and localization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalization_and_localization) are quite standard terms with well known meanings, which I think are not very suitable for this initiative.
* Stack Overflow international is a narrow term. The initiative is about international sites. In my understanding international sites are sites which UI is not in English. Today we have international Stack Overflows and [Русский язык](https://rus.stackexchange.com/).
* It seems to me that the shorter a tag name the better. I think, it should be "international" (or may be "international*s*") because of the same reason we do not use "stack-overflow-site".
We still have a lot of questions about naming. If you have any ideas how to improve tag names, please share what do you think! | 2018/09/11 | [
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315311",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/274323/"
] | This community-wiki answer translates and summarizes posts from international sites.
Posts from SOja
---------------
Original posts: [多言語サイトにおける機能提案とフィードバックについて](https://ja.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/2748/19110)
* We decided a tag for translated international posts in SOja Meta: [他言語サイトでの提案] ([initiative-from-other-language-sites]). It's a long tag-name in English, but short in Japanese.
* It's a difficult problem that the translation will be late. We considered about a deadline, but Nic-san said it will not work well on metas in [this comment](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315311/feedback-and-initiatives-on-international-sites#comment1033461_315311). | Please use edit summaries to highlight which edits should be "synced" across all "international" metas
Reference
[answer](https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/315799/289691) to [What is the "best way" to keep selected discussions on all meta sites synchronized?](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/315770/289691) |
315,311 | Stack Overflow's ultimate goal is, with our community's help, to build a library of detailed answers to every programming question. Together with our brave users, we've gone on an amazing adventure as we've launched Stack Overflow sites in different languages over the past few years.
And it’s going well so far! If we look at the sites as one united international site, it is the second most active community after Stack Overflow in English (based on the question per day metric). Looking at our international sites and the rest of the Stack Exchange network, I clearly see a very important thing missing that every site on the network has except the international ones. I’m referring to the “*Bidirectional communication channel between the company and the community*”.
### How do communities and the company communicate currently?
Since 01/01/2018 (up to 06/15/2018) the following have been posted by employees of the company:
* Meta Stack Exchange: 282 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Russian: 48 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Spanish: 28 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Portuguese: 10 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Japanese: 1 answer.
* Meta Stack Overflow in English: 412 answers.
It seems to me that if someone from the company does not speak the language of a community, it becomes isolated from the rest of the network. We do not want that to happen. Our philosophy of success relies heavily on our community. We gradually make our sites the best place to ask and answer questions on the Internet based on your feedback. Without a way to talk to a community and listen to our users there is little chance for improving anything.
### What was the process?
At the start, there was one dedicated bilingual community manager for each international site. The way those community managers worked with communities differed from site to site. Each international site had different initiatives and different focuses which have almost never intersected. That means CM’s often did the same work in solving similar problems across the international sites. A lot of energy could have been saved by working together.
### Improvement of communications
What if we did things another way? What if we were able to share initiatives between international sites, reuse the experience of other communities, and act based on feedback from all the sites? The first step towards this goal is to set up a communication channel for exchanging ideas, initiatives, and feedback between the company and communities as well as between the communities themselves.
The biggest challenge in the situation is the fact that all of the communities, including the company, speak different languages. It's nobody's fault but that's the reality. Because of this, I'd like to share some thoughts about how the communication channel might work.
Feedback And Initiatives On International Sites
===============================================
>
> **TL;DR**
>
>
> * We need a channel for communication between the company and international communities as well as for international communities with one another. Currently, the best place for this is MSE.
> * English will be used on MSE discussions and international sites will keep discussions in their own localized languages.
> * Company initiatives will be shared in English on MSE and we will need the help of volunteer translators to post translated versions on their respective meta sites.
> * Community initiatives will be shared on their respective meta site and will need to be translated for MSE. Then, they can spread across all other international metas as mentioned above.
> * We will keep discussions on all meta sites synchronized.
> * When a discussion on an international meta site is almost completed we need the volunteers’ help again to make a summary of what the international community said and post it as an answer on MSE.
>
>
>
Over the last few years on SOru we have tried to implement a lot of interesting initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4857/6)), we started a lot of social initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4191/6)), we integrated / activated some interesting engine features ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7095/6)). It bothers me that most of those initiatives have not been even suggested to other international communities. I tend to believe that the situation is the same on the other sites: each site has its own set of initiatives that nobody knows about except the users of the site.
That might lead to a situation where very important features for international communities do not get implemented in the engine because the initiatives seem to be needed for a relatively small number of users (if we look at them in the context of individual international sites). Each of our international sites is not big alone, but, as it was said, together we are the second most active community in the network. If all communities need one feature in the engine, my hope is that it will get the right priority. The first step, however, is to start discussing initiatives together.
### How can we propagate an initiative across all international sites?
When we think about ways to communicate across the sites we need to consider the following:
* The process needs to be scalable. Imagine, that we had one hundred international sites. The process should work for any number of sites with no difficulties.
* The author of an initiative does not speak all the languages of our international sites.
* We want to have as many people looking at an initiative as possible, including our users from various English speaking communities and employees of the company.
* There should be a way for international communities to discuss an initiative in their own languages.
* The outcome of the discussions on international meta sites need to be shared with the rest of the network, and particularly with the other international sites.
With that in mind I’d like to share some thoughts about what the process might look like:
1. The author of an initiative (a CM or a user) needs to post a question on MSE with a special tag (let’s say [international-sites](/questions/tagged/international-sites "show questions tagged 'international-sites'")). The language of the post should always be English.
2. Users who know two languages can volunteer to translate the question and post the translated version on an international meta site.
3. When the translation gets posted on an international meta site, the volunteer adds a link to it to the question on MSE. Also, please add the link to the MSE question to the translated one. It should help us keep the discussion over metas synchronized.
4. After a community discusses the initiative, we need a volunteer who will post a summary of the international meta discussion as an answer to the question on MSE. The summary should be in English. I think it might be a good idea to have one wiki answer where there will be summaries of all international meta sites. In this case, we are able to keep the answer on top of other replies by accepting it.
5. If anyone has any thoughts about the initiative they can answer on any metas, including MSE.
In case of a community initiative, the process is almost the same with only one difference: the initiative gets started on an international meta site and needs to be translated into English and posted on MSE. After that everything is the same.
Having this process allows the company to understand what all international communities need. Also, the process should help our international communities exchange ideas about their own specific issues, share initiatives, and look at the amazing things that are happening with the International Stack Overflows.
Please, tell us what do you think
---------------------------------
We want to make our international sites the best place on the internet to ask programming questions in the users’ first languages. The first step is to create a way for communities to communicate with each other and with the company. If you have any ideas for how we can improve processes in regards to this goal, please share your thoughts!
The initiative on international metas
-------------------------------------
* Discussion on SOpt: [Feedback e Iniciativas nos Sites Internacionais](https://pt.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7308/112052)
* Discussion on SOes: [Comentarios e iniciativas en sitios internacionales](https://es.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/3658/324)
* Discussion on SOja: [多言語サイトにおける機能提案とフィードバックについて](https://ja.meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/2748/%E5%A4%9A%E8%A8%80%E8%AA%9E%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%83%88%E3%81%AB%E3%81%8A%E3%81%91%E3%82%8B%E6%A9%9F%E8%83%BD%E6%8F%90%E6%A1%88%E3%81%A8%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%90%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6)
* Discussion on SOru: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7847/15479)
* Discussion on Русский Язык: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://rus.meta.stackexchange.com/q/339/190033)
**An update about tag naming**
* [Internationalization and localization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalization_and_localization) are quite standard terms with well known meanings, which I think are not very suitable for this initiative.
* Stack Overflow international is a narrow term. The initiative is about international sites. In my understanding international sites are sites which UI is not in English. Today we have international Stack Overflows and [Русский язык](https://rus.stackexchange.com/).
* It seems to me that the shorter a tag name the better. I think, it should be "international" (or may be "international*s*") because of the same reason we do not use "stack-overflow-site".
We still have a lot of questions about naming. If you have any ideas how to improve tag names, please share what do you think! | 2018/09/11 | [
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315311",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/274323/"
] | >
> The first step towards this goal is to set up a communication channel
> for exchanging ideas, initiatives, and feedback between the company
> and communities as well as between the communities themselves
>
>
>
The first step - convey the idea that there are sites besides sites **in major language (c)**. A lot of requests from localized sites are ignored and postponed for later. And sometimes it seems that local sites aren't taken seriously.
>
> Community initiatives will be shared on their respective meta site and
> will need to be translated for MSE. Then, they can spread across all
> other international metas as mentioned above.
>
>
>
By whom? Many of the MSE conversation comes to ru SO too late (if at all). For example, the discussion about the CoC. We didn't have a chance to say anything. Yeah, you can say that "it's our fault, we have to monitor MSE", but I thought that a CM should do this.
Right now there is no CM anymore. So, who will be responsible for this?
>
> We will keep discussions on all meta sites synchronised.
>
>
> When a discussion on an international meta site is almost completed we
> need the volunteers’ help again to make a summary of what the
> international community said and post it as an answer on MSE.
>
>
>
Already mentioned, but, people are scared to speak English (especially Russians). So, even if we translate MSE questions on local metas, the real problem is synchronization. I'm not sure who will be doing this hard work and translating posts between local metas and MSE. Even if someone does it, there will be big delay. And the original discussion will be prolonged for a long long time.
At least, to resolve this problem with information, we can automate the posting process of new important discussions on local metas. Such important discussions could use a special tag. The posts with this tag will be automatically posted on local metas in English. Probably, all local sites' chats can be subscribed to a feed. So, the most of the active users will see this post in time. | Tl;Dr
=====
[international](/questions/tagged/international "show questions tagged 'international'") is a bad tag
UPDATE: [international](/questions/tagged/international "show questions tagged 'international'") was renamed as [international-sites](/questions/tagged/international-sites "show questions tagged 'international-sites'")
Description
===========
This already was mentioned on other answers ([from me](https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/315461/289691),[from Glorfindel](https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/315312/289691)) but it's was requested to me to elaborate.
[international](/questions/tagged/international "show questions tagged 'international'") is a bad tag for MSE because among other things, it's a meta-tag not because is a tag of MSE but because **it's ambiguous**.
* Stack Exchange users and valued associates are international
+ From <https://stackoverflow.blog/2010/06/09/welcome-stack-overflow-valued-associates-00006-and-00007/>
- >
> As [I alluded to in a recent blog post](http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2010/05/on-working-remotely.html), the way we build the Stack Exchange network should be genuinely reflective of what it already is — **websites with avid international users all over the globe**.
>
>
>
* Meetups are held internationally
Ref. <https://stackoverflow.blog/2012/05/03/highlights-from-stack-overflow-worldwide-meetups/>
* Stack Exchange sites are international (already mentioned on [another of my answers](https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/315500/289691))
+ We have several sites that their scope include international topics
- Language sites:
* English Language & Usage( [international](https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/international)),
* English Learners
* Spanish Language
* ...
- Religion sites
* Christianity ([new-international-version](https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/niv))
* ...
- Travel ([international-travel](https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/international-travel))
- History ([international-relations](https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/international-relations))
- Politics ([international](https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/international), [international-law](https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/international-law), [international-relations](https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/international-relations), ...)
- Seasoned Advice (mexican-cuisine,...)
- Motor Vehicle Maintenance and Repair (nissan, volkswagen, ...)
- ...
---
From [What are tags, and how should I use them?](https://meta.stackexchange.com/help/tagging)
>
> ### Avoid meta-tags
>
>
> Do not use meta-tags in questions. Here are some tips to help you determine whether a tag is a meta-tag:
>
>
> * **If the tag can’t work as the only tag on a question, it’s probably a meta-tag**. Every tag you use should be able to work, more or less, as the only tag on a question. Meta-tags, like [beginner], [subjective], and [best-practices], are not helpful by themselves – they do not communicate anything about the content of the question.
> * **If the tag commonly means different things to different people, it’s probably a meta-tag**. For example, the meaning of the tag [subjective] is, itself, subjective; the same is true for tags like [best-practices] and [beginner]. Best practices to whom? Beginner by what criteria? Use only tags that have a broadly accepted, objective definition.
>
>
> |
315,311 | Stack Overflow's ultimate goal is, with our community's help, to build a library of detailed answers to every programming question. Together with our brave users, we've gone on an amazing adventure as we've launched Stack Overflow sites in different languages over the past few years.
And it’s going well so far! If we look at the sites as one united international site, it is the second most active community after Stack Overflow in English (based on the question per day metric). Looking at our international sites and the rest of the Stack Exchange network, I clearly see a very important thing missing that every site on the network has except the international ones. I’m referring to the “*Bidirectional communication channel between the company and the community*”.
### How do communities and the company communicate currently?
Since 01/01/2018 (up to 06/15/2018) the following have been posted by employees of the company:
* Meta Stack Exchange: 282 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Russian: 48 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Spanish: 28 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Portuguese: 10 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Japanese: 1 answer.
* Meta Stack Overflow in English: 412 answers.
It seems to me that if someone from the company does not speak the language of a community, it becomes isolated from the rest of the network. We do not want that to happen. Our philosophy of success relies heavily on our community. We gradually make our sites the best place to ask and answer questions on the Internet based on your feedback. Without a way to talk to a community and listen to our users there is little chance for improving anything.
### What was the process?
At the start, there was one dedicated bilingual community manager for each international site. The way those community managers worked with communities differed from site to site. Each international site had different initiatives and different focuses which have almost never intersected. That means CM’s often did the same work in solving similar problems across the international sites. A lot of energy could have been saved by working together.
### Improvement of communications
What if we did things another way? What if we were able to share initiatives between international sites, reuse the experience of other communities, and act based on feedback from all the sites? The first step towards this goal is to set up a communication channel for exchanging ideas, initiatives, and feedback between the company and communities as well as between the communities themselves.
The biggest challenge in the situation is the fact that all of the communities, including the company, speak different languages. It's nobody's fault but that's the reality. Because of this, I'd like to share some thoughts about how the communication channel might work.
Feedback And Initiatives On International Sites
===============================================
>
> **TL;DR**
>
>
> * We need a channel for communication between the company and international communities as well as for international communities with one another. Currently, the best place for this is MSE.
> * English will be used on MSE discussions and international sites will keep discussions in their own localized languages.
> * Company initiatives will be shared in English on MSE and we will need the help of volunteer translators to post translated versions on their respective meta sites.
> * Community initiatives will be shared on their respective meta site and will need to be translated for MSE. Then, they can spread across all other international metas as mentioned above.
> * We will keep discussions on all meta sites synchronized.
> * When a discussion on an international meta site is almost completed we need the volunteers’ help again to make a summary of what the international community said and post it as an answer on MSE.
>
>
>
Over the last few years on SOru we have tried to implement a lot of interesting initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4857/6)), we started a lot of social initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4191/6)), we integrated / activated some interesting engine features ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7095/6)). It bothers me that most of those initiatives have not been even suggested to other international communities. I tend to believe that the situation is the same on the other sites: each site has its own set of initiatives that nobody knows about except the users of the site.
That might lead to a situation where very important features for international communities do not get implemented in the engine because the initiatives seem to be needed for a relatively small number of users (if we look at them in the context of individual international sites). Each of our international sites is not big alone, but, as it was said, together we are the second most active community in the network. If all communities need one feature in the engine, my hope is that it will get the right priority. The first step, however, is to start discussing initiatives together.
### How can we propagate an initiative across all international sites?
When we think about ways to communicate across the sites we need to consider the following:
* The process needs to be scalable. Imagine, that we had one hundred international sites. The process should work for any number of sites with no difficulties.
* The author of an initiative does not speak all the languages of our international sites.
* We want to have as many people looking at an initiative as possible, including our users from various English speaking communities and employees of the company.
* There should be a way for international communities to discuss an initiative in their own languages.
* The outcome of the discussions on international meta sites need to be shared with the rest of the network, and particularly with the other international sites.
With that in mind I’d like to share some thoughts about what the process might look like:
1. The author of an initiative (a CM or a user) needs to post a question on MSE with a special tag (let’s say [international-sites](/questions/tagged/international-sites "show questions tagged 'international-sites'")). The language of the post should always be English.
2. Users who know two languages can volunteer to translate the question and post the translated version on an international meta site.
3. When the translation gets posted on an international meta site, the volunteer adds a link to it to the question on MSE. Also, please add the link to the MSE question to the translated one. It should help us keep the discussion over metas synchronized.
4. After a community discusses the initiative, we need a volunteer who will post a summary of the international meta discussion as an answer to the question on MSE. The summary should be in English. I think it might be a good idea to have one wiki answer where there will be summaries of all international meta sites. In this case, we are able to keep the answer on top of other replies by accepting it.
5. If anyone has any thoughts about the initiative they can answer on any metas, including MSE.
In case of a community initiative, the process is almost the same with only one difference: the initiative gets started on an international meta site and needs to be translated into English and posted on MSE. After that everything is the same.
Having this process allows the company to understand what all international communities need. Also, the process should help our international communities exchange ideas about their own specific issues, share initiatives, and look at the amazing things that are happening with the International Stack Overflows.
Please, tell us what do you think
---------------------------------
We want to make our international sites the best place on the internet to ask programming questions in the users’ first languages. The first step is to create a way for communities to communicate with each other and with the company. If you have any ideas for how we can improve processes in regards to this goal, please share your thoughts!
The initiative on international metas
-------------------------------------
* Discussion on SOpt: [Feedback e Iniciativas nos Sites Internacionais](https://pt.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7308/112052)
* Discussion on SOes: [Comentarios e iniciativas en sitios internacionales](https://es.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/3658/324)
* Discussion on SOja: [多言語サイトにおける機能提案とフィードバックについて](https://ja.meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/2748/%E5%A4%9A%E8%A8%80%E8%AA%9E%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%83%88%E3%81%AB%E3%81%8A%E3%81%91%E3%82%8B%E6%A9%9F%E8%83%BD%E6%8F%90%E6%A1%88%E3%81%A8%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%90%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6)
* Discussion on SOru: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7847/15479)
* Discussion on Русский Язык: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://rus.meta.stackexchange.com/q/339/190033)
**An update about tag naming**
* [Internationalization and localization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalization_and_localization) are quite standard terms with well known meanings, which I think are not very suitable for this initiative.
* Stack Overflow international is a narrow term. The initiative is about international sites. In my understanding international sites are sites which UI is not in English. Today we have international Stack Overflows and [Русский язык](https://rus.stackexchange.com/).
* It seems to me that the shorter a tag name the better. I think, it should be "international" (or may be "international*s*") because of the same reason we do not use "stack-overflow-site".
We still have a lot of questions about naming. If you have any ideas how to improve tag names, please share what do you think! | 2018/09/11 | [
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315311",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/274323/"
] | >
> 1. The author of an initiative (a CM or a user) needs to post a question on MSE with a special tag (let’s say [international](/questions/tagged/international "show questions tagged 'international'")). The language of the post should always be English.
> 2. Users who know two languages can volunteer to translate the question and post the translated version on an international meta site.
> 3. When the translation gets posted on a international meta site, the volunteer adds a link to it to the question on MSE. Also, please add the link to the MSE question to the translated one. It should help us keep the discussion over metas synchronised.
> 4. After a community discusses the initiative, we need a volunteer who will post a summary of the international meta discussion as an answer to the question on MSE. The summary should be in English. I think it might be a good idea to have one wiki answer where there will be summaries from all international meta sites. In this case we are able to keep the answer on top of other replies by accepting it.
> 5. If anyone has any thoughts about the initiative they can answer on any metas, including MSE.
>
>
>
There are several problems in this proccess:
1. What if a random low-rep user have one of that "brillant" ideas that makes no sense at all and would screw up everything very hard if implemented but his question has the [international](/questions/tagged/international "show questions tagged 'international'") tag (and is not mistagged nor something off-topic)?
Translating such question into other sites just to have the idea/proposal/whatever downvoted into hell everywhere (including here on MSE) is just a wasteful effort.
I think that some sort of filter is needed to assure that the initiative is worth to be shared (or at least has a minimal chance in being so). It don't need to be something hard black-and-white, I think that just adding a guideline "*don't bother to translate crap into international meta sites*" suffice. On the other hand, if someone thinks that a post might be worth to translate in some international site (and is able to do so or convince someone else to do) he/she is allowed to proceed.
2. Many ideas, critiques and suggestions about internationalization are born in international site metas. The proccess should be flexible enough to allow that without requiring that it must be born in MSE and then be translated. This also have the advantage that stupid ideas given by low-rep users do not spread out to pollute other international metas. If the idea/critique/suggestion is worth, it should be translated everywhere else, with MSE serving as the English-speaking site.
3. Many important things that are discussed here in MSE are missed in international sites, but they have nothing to do with internationalization. As concrete examples, the Code of Conduct and the arbitration clause can be cited. People on international sites became aware of that only at a late stage, if at all, and when they became aware, it is frequently only with partial, incorrect, mistranslated or misinterpreted information. Your proposed process seems to not remedy this situation. Adding the tag [international](/questions/tagged/international "show questions tagged 'international'") in a MSE question about say, a change in the "be nice" policy, is not ok because that tag would have nothing to do with the question. A simple "*please, crosspost this into international sites*" remainder into the text of those MSE questions would suffice to at least make people on international sites aware of the issue (and the lack of a link added back serves as evidence that it was not done yet).
4. Many users (mostly English-speaking ones) do not understands the needs that international sites have (or even care about) and might even downvote proposals about that here in MSE. Also, in some cases, the people that have those needs do not communicate in English fluently, risking into getting downvotes or close-votes in MSE. This means that there is a barrier into posting such things in the MSE-first approach and that the [specific international site meta]-first approach should be considered as equally valid. | I think it might be worth not thinking of the internationalised site as "something different".
A lot of initiatives tend to "start" on meta.se (or even meta.so) and perculate through the communities through the mods or "regular" users who find that news is useful.
The trick here is to identify what people need to know about across meta, and find an efficient way to disseminate it to folks who can try to repackage it for language specific sites.
In a sense - build the communities and the rest deals with itself.
In the "anglophone" SE world - quite a lot of this is within the spaces mods hang out in and things on meta tend to get *discussed* organically. As a meta and SU regular I've often gone "hey, so this thing affects us - what do you guys think?" on the main Super User chatroom (Root access) and sometimes our site meta. Mods also often talk to each other about such things, and that might result in related meta posts aimed at and tailored to the communities in question
Personally it feels like this is part of what a moderator needs to do - to act as a bridge between the community and the folks - though I do recall that there's a mysterious 1 rep user doing these sort of things in Ja.SO. There's also an active russian translation and bug hunting community on MSE so it might be worth leveraging them too. The trick here I suppose is not to get stuff from english language meta to elsewhere but working out to get ideas from say SO.ru to SO.Jp. It might be useful to have periodic "town hall" style discussions in some common language with mods to see what's worked/not worked in the past period. Seems a bit tricky, since I don't know what would work best as a common method of communication.
In addition to that, this may be a great use for a site/language specific chatroom, should interest exist where folks can drop in posts of interest for translation. It might be worth using tags and RSS feeds to automate these too.
And of course, if the translation process for such things is formalised or there's people doing a super awesome job at it, it might be worth showing appreciation in some way - maybe with a badge or a swag package of some sort ;) |
315,311 | Stack Overflow's ultimate goal is, with our community's help, to build a library of detailed answers to every programming question. Together with our brave users, we've gone on an amazing adventure as we've launched Stack Overflow sites in different languages over the past few years.
And it’s going well so far! If we look at the sites as one united international site, it is the second most active community after Stack Overflow in English (based on the question per day metric). Looking at our international sites and the rest of the Stack Exchange network, I clearly see a very important thing missing that every site on the network has except the international ones. I’m referring to the “*Bidirectional communication channel between the company and the community*”.
### How do communities and the company communicate currently?
Since 01/01/2018 (up to 06/15/2018) the following have been posted by employees of the company:
* Meta Stack Exchange: 282 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Russian: 48 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Spanish: 28 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Portuguese: 10 answers.
* Meta Stack Overflow in Japanese: 1 answer.
* Meta Stack Overflow in English: 412 answers.
It seems to me that if someone from the company does not speak the language of a community, it becomes isolated from the rest of the network. We do not want that to happen. Our philosophy of success relies heavily on our community. We gradually make our sites the best place to ask and answer questions on the Internet based on your feedback. Without a way to talk to a community and listen to our users there is little chance for improving anything.
### What was the process?
At the start, there was one dedicated bilingual community manager for each international site. The way those community managers worked with communities differed from site to site. Each international site had different initiatives and different focuses which have almost never intersected. That means CM’s often did the same work in solving similar problems across the international sites. A lot of energy could have been saved by working together.
### Improvement of communications
What if we did things another way? What if we were able to share initiatives between international sites, reuse the experience of other communities, and act based on feedback from all the sites? The first step towards this goal is to set up a communication channel for exchanging ideas, initiatives, and feedback between the company and communities as well as between the communities themselves.
The biggest challenge in the situation is the fact that all of the communities, including the company, speak different languages. It's nobody's fault but that's the reality. Because of this, I'd like to share some thoughts about how the communication channel might work.
Feedback And Initiatives On International Sites
===============================================
>
> **TL;DR**
>
>
> * We need a channel for communication between the company and international communities as well as for international communities with one another. Currently, the best place for this is MSE.
> * English will be used on MSE discussions and international sites will keep discussions in their own localized languages.
> * Company initiatives will be shared in English on MSE and we will need the help of volunteer translators to post translated versions on their respective meta sites.
> * Community initiatives will be shared on their respective meta site and will need to be translated for MSE. Then, they can spread across all other international metas as mentioned above.
> * We will keep discussions on all meta sites synchronized.
> * When a discussion on an international meta site is almost completed we need the volunteers’ help again to make a summary of what the international community said and post it as an answer on MSE.
>
>
>
Over the last few years on SOru we have tried to implement a lot of interesting initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4857/6)), we started a lot of social initiatives ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4191/6)), we integrated / activated some interesting engine features ([for example](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7095/6)). It bothers me that most of those initiatives have not been even suggested to other international communities. I tend to believe that the situation is the same on the other sites: each site has its own set of initiatives that nobody knows about except the users of the site.
That might lead to a situation where very important features for international communities do not get implemented in the engine because the initiatives seem to be needed for a relatively small number of users (if we look at them in the context of individual international sites). Each of our international sites is not big alone, but, as it was said, together we are the second most active community in the network. If all communities need one feature in the engine, my hope is that it will get the right priority. The first step, however, is to start discussing initiatives together.
### How can we propagate an initiative across all international sites?
When we think about ways to communicate across the sites we need to consider the following:
* The process needs to be scalable. Imagine, that we had one hundred international sites. The process should work for any number of sites with no difficulties.
* The author of an initiative does not speak all the languages of our international sites.
* We want to have as many people looking at an initiative as possible, including our users from various English speaking communities and employees of the company.
* There should be a way for international communities to discuss an initiative in their own languages.
* The outcome of the discussions on international meta sites need to be shared with the rest of the network, and particularly with the other international sites.
With that in mind I’d like to share some thoughts about what the process might look like:
1. The author of an initiative (a CM or a user) needs to post a question on MSE with a special tag (let’s say [international-sites](/questions/tagged/international-sites "show questions tagged 'international-sites'")). The language of the post should always be English.
2. Users who know two languages can volunteer to translate the question and post the translated version on an international meta site.
3. When the translation gets posted on an international meta site, the volunteer adds a link to it to the question on MSE. Also, please add the link to the MSE question to the translated one. It should help us keep the discussion over metas synchronized.
4. After a community discusses the initiative, we need a volunteer who will post a summary of the international meta discussion as an answer to the question on MSE. The summary should be in English. I think it might be a good idea to have one wiki answer where there will be summaries of all international meta sites. In this case, we are able to keep the answer on top of other replies by accepting it.
5. If anyone has any thoughts about the initiative they can answer on any metas, including MSE.
In case of a community initiative, the process is almost the same with only one difference: the initiative gets started on an international meta site and needs to be translated into English and posted on MSE. After that everything is the same.
Having this process allows the company to understand what all international communities need. Also, the process should help our international communities exchange ideas about their own specific issues, share initiatives, and look at the amazing things that are happening with the International Stack Overflows.
Please, tell us what do you think
---------------------------------
We want to make our international sites the best place on the internet to ask programming questions in the users’ first languages. The first step is to create a way for communities to communicate with each other and with the company. If you have any ideas for how we can improve processes in regards to this goal, please share your thoughts!
The initiative on international metas
-------------------------------------
* Discussion on SOpt: [Feedback e Iniciativas nos Sites Internacionais](https://pt.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7308/112052)
* Discussion on SOes: [Comentarios e iniciativas en sitios internacionales](https://es.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/3658/324)
* Discussion on SOja: [多言語サイトにおける機能提案とフィードバックについて](https://ja.meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/2748/%E5%A4%9A%E8%A8%80%E8%AA%9E%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%83%88%E3%81%AB%E3%81%8A%E3%81%91%E3%82%8B%E6%A9%9F%E8%83%BD%E6%8F%90%E6%A1%88%E3%81%A8%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%90%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6)
* Discussion on SOru: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7847/15479)
* Discussion on Русский Язык: [Обратная связь и инициативы на интернациональных сайтах](https://rus.meta.stackexchange.com/q/339/190033)
**An update about tag naming**
* [Internationalization and localization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalization_and_localization) are quite standard terms with well known meanings, which I think are not very suitable for this initiative.
* Stack Overflow international is a narrow term. The initiative is about international sites. In my understanding international sites are sites which UI is not in English. Today we have international Stack Overflows and [Русский язык](https://rus.stackexchange.com/).
* It seems to me that the shorter a tag name the better. I think, it should be "international" (or may be "international*s*") because of the same reason we do not use "stack-overflow-site".
We still have a lot of questions about naming. If you have any ideas how to improve tag names, please share what do you think! | 2018/09/11 | [
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315311",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com",
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/274323/"
] | People have a fear to start writing in English and that's one of the reasons why all international activities concentrated on local metas, not on MSE.
Maybe we need to set a #SoReadyToTranslate hashtag in user profiles on MSE and local metas like a [Soreadytohelp](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/294943/348096)? | Please use edit summaries to highlight which edits should be "synced" across all "international" metas
Reference
[answer](https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/315799/289691) to [What is the "best way" to keep selected discussions on all meta sites synchronized?](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/315770/289691) |
103,792 | We're planing a trip to Japan next year, and wanted to include the firefly squids of Toyama bay too. My problem is that I can't find any more information about the location/timing/possibilities besides that it's at night, probably on the eastern side of the bay and there is a museum that does cruises to which tickets sell out fast.
So here are some questions to start with:
Is it enough to get to the shore after dark, or does it need to be way into the night just like as the cruise leaves (at 3 am)?
Is it possible to see the squid from the shore or you must out on sea?
Are there other possibilities to get out or just the museum's cruise and where to find them?
Anyone got some experience with this and willing to share?
Thanks! | 2017/10/16 | [
"https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/103792",
"https://travel.stackexchange.com",
"https://travel.stackexchange.com/users/7390/"
] | You're asking for stations within the UK.
For any station in Northern Ireland, you'd need to change from train to ferry and from ferry to train. On either side, (direct) trains do not connect all the way to the ferry terminal, so that means more than one change even to reach Belfast, and more than two to reach any other destination in Northern Ireland. | Marlow in Buckinghamshire can only be reached via Bourne End, which can only be reached via Maidenhead - 2 changes from London Paddington.
I suspect this *could* be the nearest, about 30 miles away and less than 1 hour total journey time from London Paddington. |
103,792 | We're planing a trip to Japan next year, and wanted to include the firefly squids of Toyama bay too. My problem is that I can't find any more information about the location/timing/possibilities besides that it's at night, probably on the eastern side of the bay and there is a museum that does cruises to which tickets sell out fast.
So here are some questions to start with:
Is it enough to get to the shore after dark, or does it need to be way into the night just like as the cruise leaves (at 3 am)?
Is it possible to see the squid from the shore or you must out on sea?
Are there other possibilities to get out or just the museum's cruise and where to find them?
Anyone got some experience with this and willing to share?
Thanks! | 2017/10/16 | [
"https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/103792",
"https://travel.stackexchange.com",
"https://travel.stackexchange.com/users/7390/"
] | Firstly the undisputed ones:
* Clitheroe to Hall i’ th’ Wood (excluding Blackburn)
* Barton branch as previously mentioned
* Baildon
Then there are Merseyrail stations from Cressington to Birkdale/Aughton Park/Fazakerley (excluding Moorfields and Liverpool Central). There are sometimes engineering works meaning that London trains run direct from Liverpool South Parkway.
Next there's the stations reachable from London with 1 change, but not To London
* Kirkby to Pemberton (with an overnight stop), thanks to 1 train a day that runs from Buxton via Manchester Picadilly to Kirkby (additionally Wigan Walgate is only 100m from Wigan North Western)
* Reddish South and Denton are reachable from Stockport (no overnight
stop needed)
however all those stations meet your criteria as there is no way to get TO London from them with one change.
Finally stations that don't count:
* The Wrexham Central to Bidston branch doesn't count thanks to 1 train a day from Wrexham General, although an overnight stop is required.
* Blaenau Ffestiniog branch doesn't count as there are a handful of London trains that call at Llandudno Junction
* Ashton-under-Lyne has a service to Leeds, and one from Preston, so doesn't count
* I think all Glasgow services call at either Glasgow Central or Glasgow Queen Street, the latter being served by the Calledonian sleeper, so they don't count, indeed I can't find a single service in Scotland that is more than 1 change from London thanks to the sleeper.
* The Whitby - Great Ayton line has summer services to Darlington as previously mentioned (Nunthorpe to James Cook have regular services to Newcastle) | Marlow in Buckinghamshire can only be reached via Bourne End, which can only be reached via Maidenhead - 2 changes from London Paddington.
I suspect this *could* be the nearest, about 30 miles away and less than 1 hour total journey time from London Paddington. |
103,792 | We're planing a trip to Japan next year, and wanted to include the firefly squids of Toyama bay too. My problem is that I can't find any more information about the location/timing/possibilities besides that it's at night, probably on the eastern side of the bay and there is a museum that does cruises to which tickets sell out fast.
So here are some questions to start with:
Is it enough to get to the shore after dark, or does it need to be way into the night just like as the cruise leaves (at 3 am)?
Is it possible to see the squid from the shore or you must out on sea?
Are there other possibilities to get out or just the museum's cruise and where to find them?
Anyone got some experience with this and willing to share?
Thanks! | 2017/10/16 | [
"https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/103792",
"https://travel.stackexchange.com",
"https://travel.stackexchange.com/users/7390/"
] | Living in Liverpool, I can't believe I missed the obvious fact the Merseyrail Northern Line trains don't go through Liverpool Lime Street - they run from Hunts Cross to either Southport or Ormskirk via Liverpool Central (and so you have to do 1 stop on the Wirral Line or walk to Lime Street). No station on this line has a normal service to London. (However, Lime Street is currently undergoing major renovation, and so London trains are terminating at Liverpool South Parkway, meaning that London with 1 connection is possible for 3 weeks only.) | I think the stations between Kirkby and Wigan Wallgate don't have one-change services to London.
ie Rainford, Upholland, Orrell and Pemberton.
Their services run between Kirkby and Blackburn, via Wigan Wallgate and Manchester Victoria. There's no direct service from any of those stations to London, you can change at Wigan Wallgate for Wigan North Western or at Manchester Victoria for Manchester Piccadilly.
Stations from Wigan Wallgate to Manchester along that line also have a service to Manchester Airport via Manchester Piccadilly (which originates at Southport) and you can change at Piccadilly for London.
I can't find any other line through Manchester Victoria that doesn't also have trains to Piccadilly, or have access to another station like Wigan North Western, Leeds, Brighouse, Bradford Interchange or Preston. |
103,792 | We're planing a trip to Japan next year, and wanted to include the firefly squids of Toyama bay too. My problem is that I can't find any more information about the location/timing/possibilities besides that it's at night, probably on the eastern side of the bay and there is a museum that does cruises to which tickets sell out fast.
So here are some questions to start with:
Is it enough to get to the shore after dark, or does it need to be way into the night just like as the cruise leaves (at 3 am)?
Is it possible to see the squid from the shore or you must out on sea?
Are there other possibilities to get out or just the museum's cruise and where to find them?
Anyone got some experience with this and willing to share?
Thanks! | 2017/10/16 | [
"https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/103792",
"https://travel.stackexchange.com",
"https://travel.stackexchange.com/users/7390/"
] | Firstly the undisputed ones:
* Clitheroe to Hall i’ th’ Wood (excluding Blackburn)
* Barton branch as previously mentioned
* Baildon
Then there are Merseyrail stations from Cressington to Birkdale/Aughton Park/Fazakerley (excluding Moorfields and Liverpool Central). There are sometimes engineering works meaning that London trains run direct from Liverpool South Parkway.
Next there's the stations reachable from London with 1 change, but not To London
* Kirkby to Pemberton (with an overnight stop), thanks to 1 train a day that runs from Buxton via Manchester Picadilly to Kirkby (additionally Wigan Walgate is only 100m from Wigan North Western)
* Reddish South and Denton are reachable from Stockport (no overnight
stop needed)
however all those stations meet your criteria as there is no way to get TO London from them with one change.
Finally stations that don't count:
* The Wrexham Central to Bidston branch doesn't count thanks to 1 train a day from Wrexham General, although an overnight stop is required.
* Blaenau Ffestiniog branch doesn't count as there are a handful of London trains that call at Llandudno Junction
* Ashton-under-Lyne has a service to Leeds, and one from Preston, so doesn't count
* I think all Glasgow services call at either Glasgow Central or Glasgow Queen Street, the latter being served by the Calledonian sleeper, so they don't count, indeed I can't find a single service in Scotland that is more than 1 change from London thanks to the sleeper.
* The Whitby - Great Ayton line has summer services to Darlington as previously mentioned (Nunthorpe to James Cook have regular services to Newcastle) | The **West Highland Line** is famously about as remote as you can get and have a direct train to London, but it qualifies *one day a week* - there is a night sleeper service to Fort William through Glasgow Queen Street, but it doesn't run on Saturday nights. Queen Street has no other direct connections to London so you'd have to make a short walk to Glasgow Central to change, and I'm guessing this would count as more than a simple change for your question.
More prosaically, trains on the [Maryhill Line](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryhill_Line) would also qualify - they only seem to serve Glasgow Queen Street. |
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