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Hello,
I am looking for carbon-doped rubber. Or an highly elastic material that changes its resistivity, or some
other electrical property when streched.
If you could email me any info you may have on material names or companies that make the stuff
it would be highly appreaciated.
Thanx
JP
Biomedical Engineering
Louisiana Tech University
| 12sci.electronics |
I don't know much about Hydrophones, so I'm looking for any information
that will help avoid problems I haven't thought of! I would like an
inexpensive hydrophone and amplifier with tape (line level) outputs...
something like Edmund sells for $250. They also sell just the microphone
(hydrophone) head for $24, but how does one construct the enclosure?
Any information would be greatly appreciated, Thanks!
Bill Mohler
bill@occs.cs.oberlin.edu
| 12sci.electronics |
Could anyone give me information on Umbilical hernias.
The patient is over weight and has a protruding hernia.
Surgery may be risky due to the obesity.
What other remedies could I try?
Thanx in advance
Dr. Gary Taylor
| 13sci.med |
Ben Liberman (ben@genesis.MCS.COM) wrote:
: What if clipper is fairly secure but leaves a distinct clipper signature...
: that is, what if it's not too difficult to tell that a msg. was clipper
: encrypted, even if you can't tell the contents? In that case, anyone
: who is trying to hide behind anther encryption scheme will stand out
: from all of the other traffic and raise a red flag to the NSA, etc.
I think the obvious answer (which may have been posted, but I haven't
seen it) is to encrypt your data with some other scheme, then run it
through clipper. The only way the police will be able to detect the
other encryption is through a wiretap, so even if they do notice with
an illegal wiretap, I have a hard time seeing a judge issuing a
warrant for a search to "confiscate" the illegal scheme (assuming that
at one day, it comes to this; a worse case) based on an illegal
wiretap. Then again, maybe I am an idealist. :>
: ------------ -------- ----------------------
: Ben Liberman INTERNET ben@genesis.MCS.COM
: ben@tai.chi.il.us
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| 11sci.crypt |
Hi netters,
Does anyone know have any info on the Ultrastor line of controller?
I'm especially interested in the 14F and 34F SCSI controllers.
Please email any info ASAP. I'm building a system and that's one
of the few conponents that is missing. Thanks.
Tri
| 6misc.forsale |
In the article "At last! Now you can talk to your computer." in the May
issue of FORTUNE magazine, it was mentioned that phoneme prediction
used Hidden Markov Modeling. This was the statistical method that Markov
developed to predict letter sequences in Pushkin's novel, _Eugene Onegin_.
It was then said that this technique worked so well that the NSA used
it to crack codes.
Does anyone have any references for HMM and how the NSA used it?
Or is this just an extension of the letter frequency tables that we
are all using anyway?
Joe pjhong@clio.rad.sunysb.edu
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <1qsum1INNg5k@shelley.u.washington.edu> jimh@carson.u.washington.edu (James Hogan) writes:
>
>I think you've missed the point. Take "alt.atheism" for instance.
>It's an exponent-based anagram. When fully extended, it translates
>to:
> Dig Tunnels Deep!
> Store Grain Everywhere!
> Prepare for the Coming Struggle!
>
>You'll no doubt recognize this as a quote from Chairman Mao.
>
>Thus, I think you'll have to admit that atheists have a lot
>more up their sleeve than you might have suspected.
>
>Agnostics will be sent to the gulag under the Mao-atheist new order.
Now where did I put my little red book? Or was that green?
Jim
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| 0alt.atheism |
Phill Hallam-Baker (hallam@dscomsa.desy.de) wrote:
: First off they could recognise Iraqu's responsibility in initiating the
: Iran/Iraq war. Providing technical assistance to Iran to get it's oil
: production back up to capacity would also be a smart move, at the moment
: Iran is above it's OPEC ceiling. If they had extra capacity they would
: use it and bring down the oild price further which is in our interests.
I agree with most of what Phill says, except the point about it being in
our interests to bring down the oil price. Consider that both the U.S.
and Great Britain have domestic sources to partly satisfy
their energy needs. Pricy OPEC oil impacts both Germany,
Japan and many other "industrial rivals" more than these two.
In addition, the proceeds from the sale (especially by Saudi Arabia, Kuwait
U.A.E. etc) are disproportionately reinvested in the U.S. and G.B.,
propping up these economies and further providing an incentive
to keep prices from falling too low.
Dan Epstein
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <1993May14.131657.24550@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> gfeygin@unicorn.eecg.toronto.edu (Gennady Feygin) writes:
> Actually Judea and Samaria are proper geographical names, just like
> Asia Minor or Lake Michigan. ...
Another name for this region is Cis-Jordan.
--
=Jim eggertj@ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <639@cfdd50.boeing.com> lry1219@cfdd50.boeing.com (Larry Yeagley) writes:
>I have an acquaintance who has been diagnosed as having blood clots and
>"compartment syndrome". I searched the latest edition of the Columbia medical
>encyclopedia and found nothing. Mosby's medical dictionary gives a very brief
>description which suggests it's an arterial condition. Can someone point me (an
Compartment syndrome occurs when swelling happens in a "compartment"
bounded by fascia. The pressure rises in the compartment and blood
supply and nerves are compromised. The treatment is to open the
compartment surgically. THe most common places for compartment
syndromes are the forearm and calf. It is an emergency, since
if the pressure is not relieved, stuff will die.
--
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| 13sci.med |
In article <C6BFLB.KEM@cs.columbia.edu> ethan@cs.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
>
> Three q's:
>
>1) is it reliable?
I use it all day every day (maintaining our ftp site and answering mail
via support@qdeck.com), and I can honestly say that in the last few
months I've never had my machine go down due to any sort of tcpip network
manager instability. (Of course, I've crashed my machine quite a few times
on purpose, during beta testing and that sort of thing, but the tcpip
portion is quite stable...)
However, keep in mind that DVX and the network managers are only going
to be as stable as the software they sit on top of (so if your underlying
network kernel is flakey, you can't expect DVX to be terribly stable...)
>2) how does it send the information from a MS Windows app over
>the X11 protocol? Does it just draw everything as graphics into
>one window, or does it use multiple windows and essentially work
>more cleverly?
It just goes as a window that has graphics drawn into it. (To vastly
over-simplify what goes on, we just take the windows graphics API calls,
and translate them directly to X-protocol; unfortunately, windows was
not really written to be network-aware, so sometimes we see a speed
penalty when an app does something stupid, like sending a big white bitmap
to erase something rather than just drawing a white box; fortunately,
that sort of thing is rare...)
>3) If I want to run MS Word, for example, remotely, do I have to
>run a separate copy of MS Windows remotely, and then start MS
>Word from that, or can MS Word be started remotely on its own?
You need to run MS windows, which Word then runs inside. You could run
multiple windows programs within the one WinX window, and windows has
ways to automagically start winapps when you start windows, so in practice
it's not really a major problem. I have my system set up so that I can
run WinX, which automatically starts Word Full-screen (for windows), so
I never see any part of windows but word...)
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| 5comp.windows.x |
punjabi@leland.Stanford.EDU (sanjeev punjabi) writes:
>Some evidence that is NOT working:
Take a look at the standings. It's REAL easy to get so focussed on
minutinae and forget that the Giants happen to be in first place. If it's
working, you don't SCREW IT UP by changing things, just because you think it
ought to be different.
Some folks like to argue about theoretical details. I prefer to watch teams
win. When the Giants slip to third, then we can talk about how to re-arrange
the batting order. Until then, I think it's stupid to focus on what's wrong,
for the simple fact that IT'S WORKING AS IT IS.
>P.S. Does the mailing list maintainer think that Will Clark is the best
>first baseman in the majors and that Matt Williams is a better power hitter
>than any other ballplayer?
In the majors? I don't follow AL, so I won't comment on "Majors". In the NL,
if I had my choice of any 1B in the league for my team, it'd be Clark, and
I'd hit him third. (My fantasy team has both Grace and Murray on it, because
I've never been able to GET Clark. I'd take any of the three without
hesitation in real life, but I think Clark is it).
Williams: Not even close. I much prefer his defense, but when he isn't
headcasing it, Matt has a good, solid swing and some real punch. If he drops
to .230, then he wanders out of cleanup, but according to the latest
Baseball Weekly, he's hitting .275, and in the last week, hitting .296.
That's not exactly chopped liver.
Mostly, though, the Giants are winning, and frankly, as long as that
continues, it's rather silly to second-guess their strategy. But evidently,
some folks would rather be right than be first.
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| 9rec.sport.baseball |
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| 6misc.forsale |
In article <1993Apr16.013145.8770@Princeton.EDU> roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig) writes:
>
>Right. So who cares which PLAYER gets credited, as long as the TEAM
>gets more runs? If a player helps the TEAM get more R and RBI, but
>doesn't score them all himself, who cares?
Amusing, isn't it? Seems only the SDCNs realize how much baseball is
a *team* game, combining efforts from every player for the win.
Consider the Red Sox game last night. The Sox won 4-3 in the bottom
of the 13th. Who won the game?
-Clemens pitched a strong nine (?) innings, allowing only two runs.
-Ryan pitched a couple shutout innings, though he needed some excellent
defensive plays behind him to do so.
-Quantrill pitched a couple of innings, gave up the go-ahead run, and
got credited with the win when the Sox scored two in the bottom of
the inning.
Looks like a team effort to me! Yet only Quantrill got credit for
the win.
How about the offense?
-Dawson and Vaughn hit (I think) HRs early in the game. Without either
one, the Sox would have lost in nine.
-Quintana led off the 13th with a solid single.
-Zupcic pinch-ran for Quintana, providing the speed to go from first
to third when...
-Cooper ripped a *second* single in the inning.
-Melvin avoided the DP, getting the run home with a sac fly. Not much of
a help, but it was something.
-Scrub Richardson then hit a double, scoring the speedy Cooper all the
way from first! (Hill's lack of defense helped.)
Cooper and Zupcic were credited with runs, Melvin and Richardson were
credited with RBIs. But it seems to me that it was Quintana's hit
that set up the whole inning! And did Melvin really contribute as
much as Richardson?
Furthermore, people seem to consider RBIs to be more significant than
runs. Did Melvin contribute more than Cooper? Cooper provided the
game-winning baserunner, and moved the tying run to third base with
only one out!
Assigning credit based on Runs and RBIs is clearly ridiculous. You
can argue that OBP and SLG don't show you who came through in the
clutch, but R&RBI don't do any better. At least OBP and SLG don't
*claim* to try to tell you that.
Here's to the Red Sox who contributed to last night's victory.
All 20 of them!
-Valentine
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <1qicep$obf@transfer.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
>In article <1993Apr14.232806.18970@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, graham@cs.washington.edu (Stephen Graham) writes:
>> In article <1qhpcn$b12@transfer.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
>> >As far as "John Q. Public with a gun," the Supreme Court has already
>> >ruled in cases such as US v. Miller (307 U.S. 175 (1939)), and US v.
>> >Verdugo-Urquidez (110 S. Ct. 1839 (1990)) that that is EXACTLY what
>> >the amendment protects. This interpretation can be found as far back
>> >as the Dred Scott case, in 1857.
>>
>> It's worth noting that US vs. Miller sustained Miller's conviction
>> of possession of an illegal firearm, noting that a sawed-off shotgun
>> was not a proper militia weapon.
>
>No, they noted that no one had CLAIMED that it was a proper militia
>weapon (despite having been used in at least two wars). This was true,
>since neither Miller nor his lawyer appeared before the Court.
Did they or did they not sustain Miller's conviction? I don't have the
text of the case handy.
Yes, shotguns had been used in WWI, the Spanish-American War, and the
US Civil War. That was not in question. The possession of a sawed-off
shotgun was, i.e., a weapon altered to improve concealibility.
>> Therefore, US vs. Miller supports limited government regulation of
>> firearms.
>
>Don't go arguing down this road unless you are willing to abide by
>the consequences that you find at the end of it -- mainly, that the
>law-abiding common man has a right to own any weapon that has a militia
>purpose, from handguns to sawed-off shotguns and fully automatic weapons.
>That, in fact, is what this decision says.
You are free to produce evidence that I'm not willing to abide with
all the implications of this.
Just because I don't whole-heartedly endorse the NRA position does not
mean that I oppose the RKBA. This attitude is what makes the NRA
unpopular.
--
Stephen Graham
graham@cs.washington.edu uw-beaver!june!graham
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1qcaueINNmt8@axon.cs.unc.edu> Andrew Brandt writes:
|> I looked into getting a/c installed on my 1987 Honda CRX Si.
|> The unit is $875 plus shipping, installation is like 5 1/2 hours on
|> top of that. This is a hunk of change.
|>
|> Does anyone know *any* place that does aftermarket a/c installation
|> (not with a Honda a/c unit, but some third party unit).
|>
|> I cannot seem to find anyone who can put a third party a/c unit in a
|> Honda. I am in No Carolina, so I would prefer some place nearby, but
|> any references would be handy.
|>
|> Thx, Andy (brandt@cs.unc.edu)
Sorry I can't help you with your question, but I do have a comment to
make concerning aftermarket A/C units. I have a Frost-King or Frost-Temp
(forget which) aftermarket unit on my Cavalier, and am quite unhappy with
it. The fan is noisy, and doesn't put out much air. I will never have
an aftermarket A/C installed in any of my vehicles again. I just can't
trust the quality and performance after this experience.
- les
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| 7rec.autos |
|
|Even 24Bit TrueColor machines are in most cases running an emulated
|8 bit PseudoColor visual, only to get standard x clients, motif apps and
|thelike to run. I strongly suppose you to emulate at least:
|
|> 24 Bit TrueColor. Should be no problem, only some translation. Rounding
| should not make big misfits
Depends on the nature of the "rounding." X allows the user to do bit
arithmetic on pixel values, (i.e., XOR foreground and backgroun pixel
values together to calculate a foreground color that when used with a
function of GXxor fill change foreground to background and vice-versa).
If your rounding does not preserve these types of calculations then
clients that use them will break.
Ken
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Santa Clara, CA. 95051
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <C5D05G.6xw@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> papresco@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) writes:
}In article <1993Apr10.155819.18237@sco.com> allanh@sco.COM (Allan J. Heim) writes:
}>Look, if you can figure out a reliable means of keeping guns away from
}>bad people, while not interfering with good people, I think we'd all be
}>for it. The problem is, the methods we're using now don't do the trick.
}
}Don't manufacture them. Don't sell them. Don't import them.
Japan did this. It required near-total isolation from the rest of the world
for 2 centuries.
}Some guns will get through, but far fewer, and far less people will
}die because of them. Hunting weapons could be allowed, of course, as
}long as they are big, and bulky, and require reloading after a few
}shots (how many times can you shoot at the same animal, anyways One
}assumes they are moving!)
Hunting weapons are great for extortionist sharpshooters. "Send me money or
else I'll pick you off from 2 miles away."
Tim Starr - Renaissance Now!
Assistant Editor: Freedom Network News, the newsletter of ISIL,
The International Society for Individual Liberty,
1800 Market St., San Francisco, CA 94102
(415) 864-0952; FAX: (415) 864-7506; 71034.2711@compuserve.com
Think Universally, Act Selfishly - starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu
| 16talk.politics.guns |
From article <1qvgu5INN2np@lynx.unm.edu>, by osinski@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Marek Osinski):
> Well, it did not take long to see how consequent some Greeks are in
> requesting that Thessaloniki are not called Solun by Bulgarian netters.
> So, Napoleon, why do you write about Konstantinople and not Istanbul?
>
> Marek Osinski
Thessaloniki is called Thessaloniki by its inhabitants for the last 2300 years.
The city was never called Solun by its inhabitants.
Instabul was called Konstantinoupolis from 320 AD until about the 1920s.
That's about 1600 years. There many people alive today who were born in a city
called Konstantinoupolis. How many people do you know that were born in a city
called Solun.
Napoleon
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1993Apr21.024036.7394@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> dnewman@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (David F. Newman) writes:
>Subject: arcade style buttons and joysticks
>Can anyone tell me where it is possible to purchase controls found
>on most arcade style games. Many projects I am working on would
What about the common joystick found in all computer shops?
- gerrit
| 12sci.electronics |
dt4%cs@hub.ucsb.edu (David E. Goggin) writes:
>1) Dreams and OOBEs are totally mental phenomena. In this case no morality
...
>2) Dreams and OOBEs have a reality of their own (i.e. are 'another plane')
...
>3) Like (2), but here we assume that though the dreeam and OOBE environs have
>a
>real existence, a different moral/ethics apply there, and no (or maybe
>different) moral laws apply there.
I can think of another alternative:
4) OOBE's are a form of contact with the demonic world, whereby one
intentionally or unintentionally surrenders control of his or her perceptions
to spiritual beings whose purpose is to deceive and entrap them.
- Mark
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In rec.food.cooking, packer@delphi.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
>Is there such a thing as MSG (monosodium glutamate) sensitivity?
>I saw in the NY Times Sunday that scientists have testified before
>an FDA advisory panel that complaints about MSG sensitivity are
>superstition. Anybody here have experience to the contrary?
>
I know that there is MSG sensitivity. When I eat foods with MSG I get
very thirsty and my hands swell and get a terrible itchy rash. I first
experienced this problem when I worked close to Chinatown and ate Chinese
food almost everyday for lunch. Now I can't tolerate MSG at all. I can
notice immediately when I have eaten any. I try to avoid MSG completely.
Interesting fact though is that all three of my children started experiencing
the exact same rash on their hands. I couldn't understand why because I
don't MSG in cooking and we ask for no MSG when we do eat Chinese (I still
love it). After some investigation I knew that Oodles of Noodles where
one of their favorite foods. One of the main ingredients in the flavor
packets is MSG. Now I look at all labels. You would be surprised at
places you find MSG.
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| 13sci.med |
In article <120399@netnews.upenn.edu> sepinwal@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Alan
Sepinwall) writes:
Thanks Alan, that was well thought out.
Even written in an entertaining style.
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
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| 6misc.forsale |
In article <rdippold.736035556@qualcom> rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) writes:
>george@tessi.com (George Mitchell) writes:
>>Guns are offensive. Cryptography is defensive. See the difference?
>No. They're both neutral. Whether they're offensive or defensive
>depends on how you use them.
Nonsense.
Mike, in Heinlein's "Moon is a Harsh Mistress" decides that a weapon is some
mechanism which allows you to deliver energy at a distance. (I don't
have the book handy or I'd find the exact quote).
Guns do that.
Cryptosystems do not.
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- <<Disclaimer: All opinions expressed are my own, of course.>>
- Carl Ellison cme@sw.stratus.com
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| 11sci.crypt |
cfl@buc.edu.au (Colin Linahan) writes:
>Hi,
> Sorry if this is a FAQ but : could someone please tell me where I
>can get the patch(es) for X11R5 so that I can compile it under Solaris2.1
export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib/R5.SunOS5.patch.tar.Z
Get Xsun.multi-screen.tar.Z while you're at it.
Casper
| 5comp.windows.x |
pkester@hooville.mitre.org (Peter Kester) writes:
>jpc@philabs.philips.com (John P. Curcio) writes:
>>The worst thing is that this is exactly what I did last year.
>>Yes, I'd rather have SC cover it, just for the amount of coverage.
>>
>So this year you had a game on SCNY, a game on SCA, a game on ESPN,
>and if the Rangers hadn't crashed and burned, you would have had a
>game on MSG. What are you complaining about?
The problem is that (by no fault of ESPN) ongoing games are not
covered 'til the final horn sounds. With two channels, SCNY and SCA,
late-finishing games (up to Pacific time) and overtimes elsewhere will
kick in at the end of local coverage. If SCNY is blocked by the Mets,
there is still some hockey on SCA (SCNY Plus).
With an ESPN 2, the current situation would be alleviated.
gld
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> gld@columbia.EDU GO Winnipeg Jets GO!!!
> gld@cunixc.BITNET Selanne + Domi ==> Stanley
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
TRry the SKywatch project in Arizona.
pat
| 14sci.space |
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Space Station, NASA has announced the names of representatives
from government and industry and academic experts from across the
country to participate in an independent review of the redesign
options being developed by NASA.
"I am extremely honored to have been selected to lead this
important review panel. America's future in science and
technology and as a world leader in space demands our utmost
attention and care," said Vest. "We have assembled a diverse
panel of experts that, I believe, will bring the appropriate
measures of insight, integrity and objectivity to this critical
task."
The advisory committee is charged with independently assessing
various redesign options of the space station presented by NASA's
redesign team, and proposing recommendations to improve
efficiency and effectiveness of the space station program. Space
station international partners also are being asked to
participate and will be named at a later date. The advisory
committee will submit its recommendations in June.
Advisory committee members named today include:
Dr. Charles Vest Dr. Bobby Alford
President, MIT Executive VP & Dean of Medicine
Baylor College of Medicine
Mr. Jay Chabrow Dr. Paul Chu
President, JMR Associates Director, Texas Center for
Superconductivity
University of Houston
Dr. Ed Crawley Dr. John Fabian
Prof of Aero & Astro President & CEO
MIT ANSER
Maj. Gen. James Fain Dr. Edward Fort
Deputy Chief of Staff for Chancellor
Requirements; Headquarters North Carolina AT&T
USAF Materials Command State University
Dr. Mary Good Mr. Frederick Hauck
Senior VP of Technology President, International Technical
Allied Signal, Inc. Underwriters
Dr. Lou Lanzerotti Mr. William Lilly
Chair, Space Sciences National Academy of Public
Board, National Research Administration
Council
Mr. Duane McRuer Dr. Brad Parkinson
President Systems Technology Prof of Astro & Aero
Stanford University
Dr. Robert Seamans Dr. Lee Silver
Former NASA Deputy Admin. W.M. Keck Foundation Professor
for Resource Geology
California Institute of
Technology
Dr. Albert "Bud" Wheelon
Retired CEO
Hughes Aircraft
| 14sci.space |
The above headline is much better than the original one.
read on..
In article <yugoslav-greeceU3A6430pe@clarinet.com> clarinews@clarinet.com (DEJAN ANASTASIJEVIC) writes:
> BELGRADE, Yugoslavia (UPI) -- Greek Prime Minister Constantine
>Mitsotakis visited the capital of the Serbia-Montenegro federation
>Tuesday in an apparent attempt to press Serbian leaders into accepting
>the international plan to end the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina.
So far so good...
> ``I came here as an old friend of this country...to help in solving
>the burning problem of Bosnia-Herzegovina,'' Mitsotakis told reporters
>after talking for two hours with President Slobodan Milosevic of Serbia.
Old friend, whatever....
> ``I did not come here to discuss any particular plan. I came to hear
>the Serbian point of view,'' he said, adding that Serbia is ``sincerely
>trying to bring peace to the region.''
That is a great attitude for someone who wants to pressure the Serbs to
accept a peace plan that gives them most of the territory they got by
force and terror.
> Milosevic said that Serbia and Greece had ``practically identical
>views'' on the Bosnian war, which started late in March 1992 when the
this is a good thing to hear. Anybody wondering why Serbia is not
really under any boycott? Anybody remembers the Gulf war? Did Saddam
kill 100,000 people and rape 50,000 women?
> In an effort to pressure Milosevic, who is considered to be the main
>patron of Serbian territorial conquest in Bosnia, the U.N. Security
>Council has threatened to impose new sanctions against Serbia and
>Montenegro and implement a no-fly zone over Bosnian skies.
Still in the threatening stage.. Maybe when there is no more Bosnians,
the UN will lift the arms Embargo on them! Military intervention? that
is reserved for Muslim countries.
NOW HEAR THIS:
> After meeting Milosevic, Mitsotakis had separate talks with Radovan
>Karadzic, the leader of Bosnian Serbs.
> ``I encouraged Mr. Karadzic to proceed with his efforts to achieve a
>just peace in the region,'' he said.
> ``We are ready to play a positive role in the Balkans,'' said
>Mitsotakis.
real positive I might add, in favor of his old freinds of course!
> Karadzic said that he was ``honored'' to meet the Greek premier.
> ``Greeks are not one sided, and they do not tend to condemn only one
You bet they are not!
>side in this war,'' said Karadzic.
> ``We will continue to negotiate on all levels,'' he said.
> Before meeting with Milosevic, Mitsotakis had talks with President
>Dobrica Cosic of the federal Yugoslav union of Serbia and Montenegro,
>and Patriarch Pavle, the head priest of the Serbian Orthodox Church.
Anybody is still convinced that this is not a religious war?
A psychopath like Karadzik is considered a peacelover.. Of course he
sent 100,000 muslims to permanent peace. With the blessings of Patriarch
Pavle.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1993Apr5.150031.3123@colorado.edu> ajteel@dendrite.cs.Colorado.EDU (A.J. Teel) writes:
>
> Q: Do you think that HIC et al really believe that the laws
>that they are trying to get passed are for the good or are they just
>lying through their teeth and trying to disarm the populace?
I think that HCI people honestly believe that passing more gun control
laws will be in the best interests of public safety. Why do I think
this? Because I used to buy the HCI line. During my freshman year (1987),
their line made so much sense -- only people who "need" guns should be
able to get them, and the people who "need" them are the police and
other elites. Unfortunately for us, this position is highly emotional
and not well thought-out. They never stop to think that HCI's position
basically says that the non-elite are incompetents (that's you and me,
folks!) and that the Second Amendment has absolutely nothing to do with
hunting or other "legitimate" uses (which excludes overthrowing tyrannical
governments and defending yourself when the police have proven they
can't protect you).
> We all know that the end result, regardless of the intention,
>will be to have a MUCH easier to subdue population for the UN/NWO.
>This is definitely a motivation of many in power, but I wonder to
>what degree this is planned vs just duped.
Every pro-control person I've talked to is always left stumped when I
simply argue the facts of gun control (that it has yet to be proven to
lower crime rates) and weapons terminology (and I'm no expert -- but
explaining exactly how an "evil" semiautomatic weapon really works
does wonders).
I hvae personally found well-reasoned arguments to be most effective
against the emotional pro-control people. The trick is to get them to
realize that the Second Amendment exists not for hunters but for the
oppressed and the terrorized.
Daryl
Daryl Biberdorf N5GJM d-biberdorf@tamu.edu
+ Sola Gratia + Sola Fide + Sola Scriptura
| 16talk.politics.guns |
hudson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Paul Hudson Jr) writes:
> In article <m0njXCg-0000VEC@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com writes:
>
> >Why don't we just stick to the positive and find ways to bring people
> >to Jesus istead of taking bullwhips and driving them away?
>
> Certainly we should not use a bullwhip to drive people from Jesus.
> But we shouldn't water down the gospel to draw people in.
Very well put. And, in the case of someone who calls himself a Christian
brother yet continues in his sin (and claims that his sin is not a sin at
all, but perfectly acceptable), what should be done? Should Christians
just ignore a sinful lifestyle in order to not offend the person? By
reaffirming that the lifestyle is sinful according to the Bible, are
they using "a bullwhip to drive people from Jesus"?
Frankly, I find the occurance of a homosexual Christian attempting to
pass himself off as a 'straight' Christian in order to have other
Christians accept his chastisement better a *lot* more serious than
people reaffirming that the Bible teaches homosexuality is a sin.
Walter
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1993Apr15.125245.12872@abo.fi> MANDTBACKA@FINABO.ABO.FI (Mats Andtbacka) writes:
|In <1qie61$fkt@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp writes:
|> In article <30114@ursa.bear.com> halat@pooh.bears (Jim Halat) writes:
|
|> #I'm one of those people who does not know what the word objective means
|> #when put next to the word morality. I assume its an idiom and cannot
|> #be defined by its separate terms.
|> #
|> #Give it a try.
|>
|> Objective morality is morality built from objective values.
|
| "And these objective values are ... ?"
|Please be specific, and more importantly, motivate.
I'll take a wild guess and say Freedom is objectively valuable. I base
this on the assumption that if everyone in the world were deprived utterly
of their freedom (so that their every act was contrary to their volition),
almost all would want to complain. Therefore I take it that to assert or
believe that "Freedom is not very valuable", when almost everyone can see
that it is, is every bit as absurd as to assert "it is not raining" on
a rainy day. I take this to be a candidate for an objective value, and it
it is a necessary condition for objective morality that objective values
such as this exist.
--
Frank O'Dwyer 'I'm not hatching That'
odwyer@sse.ie from "Hens", by Evelyn Conlon
| 0alt.atheism |
wpr@atlanta.dg.com (Bill Rawlins) writes:
>>[...] it is patently untrue (as has been demonstrated ad
>>nauseum) that the complexity of life is a contradiction of the second
>>law.
>My point is that order does not come from disorder.
It does not... or it can not? When you freze water, you've created an
ordered crystal from a disordered liquid. Overall, the entropy is
increased, but locally order is increased.
>... the creation od DNA by random processes is incalculably remote.
And, you find the idea of a god more likely?
Besides, we can apply the anthropic principle to circumvent any
probablilty problems.
keith
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <AfqlHmi00VB0IceMRm@andrew.cmu.edu> Nanci Ann Miller <nm0w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>trajan@cwis.unomaha.edu (Stephen McIntyre) writes:
>> It usually all has to do with how the child is
>> brought up. From the time he is born, the
>> theist is brought up with the notion of the
>> "truth" of some kind of scripture-- the Bible,
>> the Torah, the Qur'an, & etc. He is told
>> of this wondrous God who wrote (or inspired)
>> the scripture, of the prophets talked about in
>> the scripture, of the miracles performed, & etc.
>> He is also told that to question this (as
>> children are apt to do) is a sin, a crime
>> against God, and to lose belief in the scrip-
>> ture's truth is to damn one's soul to Hell.
>> Thus, by the time he is able to read the
>> scripture for himself, the belief in its "truth"
>> is so ingrained in his mind it all seems a
>> matter of course.
>You're missing something here. There are people who convert from
>non-theism to theism after being brought up in a non-theist household. (I
>don't have any statistics as to how many though. That would be an
>interesting thing to know.)
Well, I was raised as an athiest, and eventually took on a theistic
view. However I try to be a rationalist as well as a theist. Anyhow,
I will try to make some comments on your observations, just to
contribute some datapoints from a different perspective.
>I think that religion is a crutch. People are
>naturally afraid of the unknown and the unexplainable. People don't want
>to believe that when they die, they are dead, finished. That there is
>nothing else after that. And so religion is kind of a nice fantasy.
Religion _can_ be a crutch. Before going much further on that thread,
I would suggest that you take a closer look at the veriety of world
religions out there, though. There are athiestic religions as well as
theistic religions. There are religions that claim knowledge about
such things as an afterlife, and there are religions that make no such
claims.
My perspective is that lots of people talk, but all that means is that
talk is cheap. When someone gives me substantial evidence about an
afterlife, then I'll start believing in one. In the mean while, my
religion deals with what we know exists, that is life here and now.
>Religion also describes things we don't know about the universe (things
>science has not yet described) and it also gives people a feeling of
>security... that if they just do this one thing and everything will be ok.
Again, some religions do, and others do not. Some religions teach people
that life is chaotic and to accept it for what it is.
>That they are being watched over by a higher power and its minions. This
>has a very high psychological attraction for quite a few people and these
>people are willing to put up with a few discrepancies and holes in their
>belief system for what it gains them. This is why I think it's kind of
>useless to try too hard to convert theists to atheism. They are happy with
>their fantasy and they feel that other people will be happy with it too
>(they can't accept the fact that there are people who would rather accept
>the harsh reality that they are running from).
I'll tell you that I moved from an athiestic perspective to a theistic
one because I believe that I observed phenomenon that was better
explained from the theistic perspective, while the athiestic perspective
could not explain it. However that does not mean that I'm willing to
accept a lot of fourth hand gobbly-gook that contridicts modern science
along with my theistic perspective.
>>
>> _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ * Atheist
>> _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ * Libertarian
>> _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ * Pro-individuality
>> _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ * Pro-responsibility
>> _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Jr. * and all that jazz...
>Nanci
eric
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <1qu03p$442@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
|> In article <1qsili$fme@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
|> #
|> #You're admitting a lot more than that. You are admitting that
|> #your morals are situational. You are admitting that the actions
|> #of other people and the situation you are in help to determine
|> #how you judge the moral significance of one of your own actions.
|>
|> Sure.
|>
|> #If you employ X degree of force, that's not moral, but if you employ
|> #X degree of force, but previously someone else has employed Y degree
|> #of force, and the situation is thus-and-so, that *is* moral.
|>
|> Sure, within the limits of what I know.
|>
|> #This is quite different from saying "Employing force on other people
|> #is immoral, period. Unfortunately, from time to time we are obliged
|> #to do this immoral thing for reasons of self-preservation, and so
|> #we have to bear the moral consequences of that.
|>
|> Since both statements, to all intents and purposes, say effectively
|> the same thing,
Are you serious? Two statements, one of which says that use of force
in the given situation is moral, and the other of which says it is
not moral "say effectively the same thing?"
Would you say this of any two statements, one saying "X is moral" and
the other saying "X is immoral?" How would you decided when two
statements "X is moral" "X is immoral" actually conflict, and when
they "say effectively the same thing".
|> and lead one to do precisely the same thing, then
|> either both statements are doublespeak, or none.
They might lead you to do the same thing, but the difference is what
motivates pacifism so they obviously don't lead pacifists to to the
same thing.
jon.
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Is Impulse shipping IMAGINE for the PC386/486? How close is it to the
Amiga's IMAGINE 2.0, in terms of features?
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| 1comp.graphics |
The Waco/Whacko Bar-B-Q caused me to remember an official explanation
from the Vietnam War. The 90s, liberal version is:
"It was necessary to incinerate the children in order to save them."
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Hartford 1 1 3--5
NY Rangers 1 2 1--4
First period
1, Hartford, Cunneyworth 5 (Janssens, Greig) 12:21.
2, NY Rangers, Graves 34 (Turcotte, Zubov) 18:39.
Second period
3, NY Rangers, Kovalev 19 (Turcotte, Graves) 2:12.
4, Hartford, Sanderson 44 (Cassels) pp, 4:54.
5, NY Rangers, Amonte 30 (Andersson, Vanbiesbrouck) pp, 19:13.
Third period
6, NY Rangers, M.Messier 25 (Amonte, Andersson) 2:26.
7, Hartford, Sanderson 45 (Cassels) sh, 5:23.
8, Hartford, Nylander 6 (Ladouceur) 8:35.
9, Hartford, Verbeek 36 (Zalapski) 17:43.
Hartford: 5 Power play: 4-1 Special goals: pp: 1 sh: 1 Total: 2
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Cassels 0 2 2
Cunneyworth 1 0 1
Greig 0 1 1
Janssens 0 1 1
Ladouceur 0 1 1
Nylander 1 0 1
Sanderson 2 0 2
Verbeek 1 0 1
Zalapski 0 1 1
NY Rangers: 4 Power play: 4-1
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Amonte 1 1 2
Andersson 0 2 2
Graves 1 1 2
Kovalev 1 0 1
Messier M 1 0 1
Turcotte 0 2 2
Vanbiesbrouck 0 1 1
Zubov 0 1 1
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <1rh2mi$ea4@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, bilan@cps.msu.edu (Thomas J
Bilan) writes:
> If I put LASTDRIVE = Z in my config.sys, NETX will run but I can't access
> drive f: to log in to Novell.
> If I don't put LASTDRIVE = Z in my config.sys I can't access other W4WG
> drives from the file-manager.
>
> It seems that there should be a way to make NETX work with the LASTDRIVE =
> statement in my Config.Sys.
First off, I haven't used W4WG (but I think that's about to change!).
The problem is the LASTDRIVE command and the way NetWare in general (and
in this case NETX in particular) adds drives to the device chain.
Setting LASTDRIVE=Z means there are no "unassigned" (as opposed to
"unused") drive letters for NetWare to use, as it tacks its drive
mappings -onto the end- of the existing list of drives. W4WG obviously
attaches its network drives to "existing, unused" drive letters.
I'd guess the next thing I'd try is something like LASTDRIVE=M, which on
most machines will leave a fair swathe of drives for W4WG and still
allow up to 13 NetWare drive mappings as well.
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
Nick FitzGerald, PC Applications Consultant, CSC, Uni of Canterbury, N.Z.
n.fitzgerald@csc.canterbury.ac.nz TEL:+64(3)364 2337, FAX:+64(3)364 2332
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <13MAY93.02285380@edison.usask.ca> f54oguocha@edison.usask.ca writes:
>In a previous article, josip@eng.umd.edu (Josip Loncaric) wrote:
>>
>>Actually, just after the FIRST world war, many Muslims were killed by Serbs.
>>Under Serbian-led regime between the two world wars, many Croats were
>>also killed (especially during the dictatorship introduced on Jan. 6, 1929).
>>
>Josip,
>
>please, don't be offended at this question: Who are the "Muslims" in the
>Bosnian context? i know that a moslem/muslim is a believer in Islam. Islam
>is a religion and it is practised in many parts of the world. But it is not
>, yes definitely not, an ethinic group. ok! so, these Bosnian Muslims, who
>are they? to which ethnic group do they belong? what language(s) do they
>speak? do they have a different language from that of the Serbs or Croats?
>the way the western press use the word 'muslim' in this Bosnian debacle has
>kept me wondering when the meaning of muslim/moslem i knew from childhood was
>changed in the dictionary. this is just a question. no flames intended!
>
>oguocha
>
Mr. Oguocha,
"Muslims" in the Bosnian context are in fact "Turks"... In fact, correct
me if I am wrong, Serbs are attacking Bosnians with their battle cries
"Death to the Turks!".
Is this so shocking? Years of communism apparently suppressed their
hatred and anger towards the Turks. But such hatred is obviously one that
dies hard.
Serbs must understand, Turks are no longer the good old barbarians world
has come to know by propaganda after propaganda.
Serbs must further understand that barbarism does not work.
Serbs must even further understand that barbarism would one day have
to face counter-barbarism. So, I urge those people [Serbs] to stop
killing Bosnian women and children. And they must never forget that
Turks in the motherland are watching...patiently.
Cordially,
Erol Esen
esen@mozart.cs.colostate.edu
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <C6xqJz.B6o@news.cso.uiuc.edu> narain@uiuc.edu writes:
>Mark Ira Kaufman writes
>> It is your responsibility for posting quotes in context. Your
>> phony 'research center' is the source of the most unscholarly,
>> out-of-context, agenda-ridden, and sophmoric propaganda that I
>> have ever seen.
>
>Take a look in the mirror, Mark.
Whatever.
Anyway, Elias should take a look at my quotes to find real, effective
ways of getting your point across. Notice that all the quotes are
recent. Buy a clue, Nazi man from up north.
Pete
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
dhartung@chinet.chi.il.us (Dan Hartung) writes:
>gt6511a@prism.gatech.EDU (COCHRANE,JAMES SHAPLEIGH) writes:
>>On the subject of CS/CN/tear gas: when I received my initial introduction to
>>tear gas, the first thing that came to mind was the location of the exit. If
>>there had been anything in the way, corners to negotiate, doors to open, or
>>any other obstacles to movement, I would have had a difficult time exiting
>You couldn't find a window after six hours?
I'd bet cash 90% of the people couldn't find the window after six
minutes! Ask anybody who's taken basic training in the military. It is
not at all uncommon for a few soldiers who have not properly attached
and cleared their masks to require assistance exiting the chamber. Since
that chamber has a door, not just a window, it's likely a hell of a lot
easier to exit than a multi-room, damaged house.
< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
< ISU only censors what I read, not what I say. Don't blame them. >
< USENET: Post to exotic, distant machines. Meet exciting, >
< unusual people. And flame them. >
| 16talk.politics.guns |
I have the following IBM hardware forsale
ATI VgaWonderXl24 - This is a great card, it supports 1024x768 256 colors, 800x600 32k colors, and 640x480 16 million colors. I found that it also speed up windows considerably. I'm asking $100 o.b.o. for this card.
I also have 2 2400 baud modems. I have Docs for both but I don't have the original boxes. Both work fine and I'd like to get $25 each or $40 for both.
Please e-mail all replies to jth@bach.udel.edu
Thanks,
Jay
| 6misc.forsale |
In article <1993Apr15.173851.25846@convex.com>, tobias@convex.com (Allen
Tobias) wrote:
>
>
> Society, as we have known it, it coming apart at the seams! The basic reason
> is that human life has been devalued to the point were killing someone is
> "No Big Deal". Kid's see hundreds on murderous acts on TV, we can abort
> children on demand, and kill the sick and old at will. So why be surprised
> when some kids drop 20 lbs rocks and kill people. They don't care because the
> message they hear is "Life is Cheap"!
>
I think this is getting a little overheated. Highway robbers have been a
part of life since the Middle Ages at least. It's human nature to look
at history through rose colored glasses, but random acts of violence have
been a ceaseless part of our heritage. Overall, life is better now than it
ever was then. It's just that random individual acts of violence have
never
been historically significant, and record keeping in the past was never
good
enough to retain them all.
Steve Wall
| 7rec.autos |
In article <1qug3sINN90g@rave.larc.nasa.gov> kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) writes:
>I have a MOSFET pulled out of a Trygon power supply, for which I have no
>manual. It's a Motorola part with a 1972 date code and the number
> 285-4
>which the Motorola folks assure me is a house number, which they can't
>help me with. Any suggestions from folks out there? I can't put it on
>a curve tracer to try to get an equivalent, since it's completely shot.
>--scott
Since your MOSFET is a 1972 vintage, it's probably not a very good one by
today's standards. If you have an idea about its voltage and current
ratings, e.g. 60VDC @ 6A, you can probably get away with replacing it with
anything with better specs. Early MOSFETS had a gate-source voltage rating
of approximately +/- 20 VDCmax, and they would usually turn completely "ON"
at +10VDC. Otherwise, MOSFETS are not really mysterious -- they're more or
less voltage controlled current sources. If the MOSFET in your circuit is
used as an open-loop, voltage controlled current source, you may have to
experiment with various gain-altering techniques.
Bill Willis willisw@coe-nw.clemson.edu
(803) 656-5550
| 12sci.electronics |
This discussion on viewing .ps files undex X11 seems rather interesting
but I fail to understand the reason it is not contained in 2 at most
newsgroups.
I am subscribed to comp.text.interleaf and I could care less about
.ps viewing under X11. I am sure that members of this group interested in
the topic can followup by looking at other newsgroups.
Could you please remove the comp.text.interleaf from your distribution?
Just as a nettish sort of courtesy.
Best regards.
--
Leo J Irakliotis irakliot@longs.lance.colostate.edu
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Electrical Engineering l.irakliotis@ieee.org
Colorado State U
(303) 491-2021 Optical Computing Lab
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <1993Apr23.091337@staff.dccs.upenn.edu> filinuk@staff.dccs.upenn.edu (Geoff Filinuk) writes:
> GET OFF ESPN'S BACK AND STOP POSTING ARTICLES ON THIS SUBJECT!!!
>There have been to many f****n complainers about this game that it's making me
>sick.
Generally I agree with you. However, (1) last night ESPN cut away to Baseball
Tonite, which looks like SportsCenter tailored to baseball, and they cut
away at 7:40 pacific. That's quite a contract they have there. (2) if
ESPN couldn't deliver, they should have had a transistion plan to
let SportsChannel pick up the slack.
Nonetheless, it is ultimately the fault of the US-American public that regular
season baseball has precedence over playoff hockey in the U.S.
Support your team; support your game.
Somebody in r.s.h. had an excellent idea that we should write Chrysler
to thank them for supporting hockey with their ads and that we would
consider their products. Here's an equally excellent idea, watch
baseball for 10 minutes (I know I'm asking a lot, but that's what spew
bags are for), write down who is advertising, and write them letters
complaining that they are supporting baseball to your displeasure and
that you won't consider buying their products because of it.
--
Mike Eisler, mre@Eng.Sun.Com ``Not only are they [Leafs] the best team, but
their fans are even more intelligent and insightful than Pittsburgh's. Their
players are mighty bright, too. I mean, he really *was* going to get his
wallet back, right?'' Jan Brittenson 3/93, on Leaf/Pen woofers in
rec.sport.hockey
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <13MAY93.02285380@edison.usask.ca> f54oguocha@edison.usask.ca writes:
>
>please, don't be offended at this question: Who are the "Muslims" in the
>Bosnian context?
Bosnian Muslims are citizens od Bosnia-Herzegovina who identify themselves
with Bosnian Muslim cultural and religious tradition.
>i know that a moslem/muslim is a believer in Islam. Islam
>is a religion and it is practised in many parts of the world. But it is not
>, yes definitely not, an ethinic group. ok! so, these Bosnian Muslims, who
>are they? to which ethnic group do they belong? what language(s) do they
>speak? do they have a different language from that of the Serbs or Croats?
In Bosnia, "Muslim" is not merely a religious category, but an ethnic
one as well. Actually, here are the two contradictory arguments
made by people on this subject:
(1) There is only Serbian and Croatian nationality, and Bosnian Muslims
are simply Croats and Serbs of Islamic faith.
(2) Bosnian Muslims are a separate nationality since they do not feel
themselves to be Croats nor Serbs.
In 1968, argument (2) was accepted by former Yugoslavia as valid,
and (1) was soundly rejected. The reasons are pragmatic: even if
Bosnian Muslims are Croats and Serbs who converted to Islam under
Turkish rule centuries ago, none of the present generation has any
clue what was their ancestor's actual nationality. In fact, although
Bosnian Muslims have felt drawn to Croatian or Serbian national
allegiance, most of them feel they have a separate cultural and
historic identity. So, arguments like "yes, but your ancestors were
Croats or Serbs" carry very little weight. Regardless of what
their ancestors might have been, as long as Bosnian Muslims feel
that they are a separate national group, that ends the debate.
What outsiders say is simply not relevant.
>the way the western press use the word 'muslim' in this Bosnian debacle has
>kept me wondering when the meaning of muslim/moslem i knew from childhood was
>changed in the dictionary. this is just a question. no flames intended!
In the case of former Yugoslavia, the date is 1971, when "Muslim nationality"
appeared as a census category for the first time. This was the result
of a sequence of decisions over the past decade, from recognizing
"Bosniaks" as an ethnic group (1961) to February 1968 resolution (in B-H)
declaring that Muslims are a separate nation, to formal endorsement
of this in January 1969, and eventually to the 1971 inclusion of
"Muslim nationality" choice in census forms.
For comparison, in 1948 census there were three national categories
available to Muslims in Bosnia-Herzegovina:
Serb-Muslims: 71,991
Croat-Muslims: 25,295
Muslims, ethnically undeclared: 788,403
This clearly demonstrates that Muslims feel themselves to be their own
nationality. Only a tiny minority felt able to choose Serb or Croat
nationality. Census results show that Bosnian Muslims have
consistently opted for a third category: in 1948 they chose "undeclared",
in 1953 they chose "Yugoslavs", in 1961 both "Yugoslavs" and "Bosniak
ethnic group", and in 1971, 1981 and 1991 they chose "Muslim nationality".
Perhaps the term "Bosnian Muslim nationality" is too confusing for
the rest of the world. But, in the present context, we ARE talking
about Muslims as nationality; not as a religous group within some
separate national identity. The reasons are mostly historical and
cultural. Religion plays a smaller role, as a part of culture in general,
because the area is simply not known for religious fanaticism. Political
fanaticism, yes; religious fanaticism, no. Group security and survival
dominate people's thinking; not fine points of theology. In fact,
Bosnia-Herzegovina is as well known for religious tolerance in peacetime
as it is known for terrible carnage in wartime.
Sincerely,
-Josip
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
Providing safety and security for one's own people is the most
fundamental responsibility of any political entity. For the Palestinian
leadership to refuse to accept this responsibility, i.e. take the
responsibility to protect their people from radical Palestinian elements
who are opposed to the peace process, is reprehensible. To argue that a
Palestinian police force would be established in order to control peaceful
political groups only reinforces the reality that the Palestinian
leadership, so far, can not exercise control over radical Palestinian
elements nor effectively deal with the killing of Palestinians by
Palestinians. This is a problem that can only be solved by the
Palestinian people.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1993Apr20.165132.9777@adobe.com>, snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
|> In article <1993Apr20.085337.27224@leland.Stanford.EDU> terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong) writes:
|> >I think that Jack Ferreira's firing eventually led to Kingston's
|> >firing. You mention consistency of vision. I think the
|> >Sharks lost that with the loss of Ferreira. There has never
|> >been a 3 headed G.M. that has ever worked. You need one
|> >person making the personnel decisions at the top, not
|> >management by committee. The conventional wisdom
|> >from around the league is that Ferreira would have
|> >made the moves that would have fielded a better product
|> >on the ice.
|>
|> How exactly would Ferreira accomplished this? The three-headed GM-ship has
|> taken a lot of heat, but nobody's explained how things would have been any
|> different had Ferreira still been there. Would Ferreira have made more
|> trades? Who would have he had traded? Would he have made fewer trades?
|> Who should not have been traded?
I think the three-headed GM's guiding principle was to keep veterans
in favor of youngsters only if they offered a "significant" advantage.
At the end of last season, the contracts of several veterans with somewhat
maginal contributions (Fenton, Bozek, Anderson, and a couple others I
can't remember) were bought out. The idea was that youngsters could
play almost as well, and had the potential to improve where these
older guys did not.
And they traded Mullen, because he wanted to go, not because he
wasn't good enough, but I think they were a bit too optimistic
in thinking they could make up for his contributions.
An example from this season, Skriko was brought in on a trial basis
but not kept, because of his age. I thought he was a decent
contributor worth keeping around.
The youth movement has its advantages; look at Gaudreau who
might still be in KC if more veterans had been kept around. But
you have to find the right balance.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Cole (steve@sep.stanford.edu, apple!sep!steve)
Department of Geophysics, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
If anyone has any information about the upcoming new computers
(Cyclone and Tempest), I am in need of some info. Anything would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
-Shawn
breedsa@wkuvx1.bitnet
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <1993Apr26.174538.1@vms.ocom.okstate.edu>
banschbach@vms.ocom.okstate.edu writes:
>oxygen(just like it does in the vagina). As much stuff as there is in the
>lay press about L. acidophilus and vaginal yeast infections, I'm really
>amazed that someone has not done a clinical trial yet to check it out.
I've mentioned this study a couple of times now: Ingestion of yogurt
containing Lactobacillus acidophilus as prophylaxis for candidal
vaginitis, Annals of Internal Medicine, 3/1/92 116(5):353-7. Do you
have a problem with the study because they used yogurt rather than
capsules of lactobacillus (even though it had positive results)?
The study was a crossover trial of daily ingestion of 8 ounces of
yogurt. There was a marked decrease in infections while women were
ingesting the yogurt. Problems with the study included very small
numbers (33 patients enrolled) and many protocol violations (only
21 patients were analyzed). Still, the difference in rates of infection
between the two groups was so large that the study remains fairly
believable.
--
David Rind
rind@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu
| 13sci.med |
I have a 5 1/4" drive as drive A. How can I make the system boot from
my 3 1/2" B drive? (Optimally, the computer would be able to boot
from either A or B, checking them in order for a bootable disk. But
if I have to switch cables around and simply switch the drives so that
it can't boot 5 1/4" disks, that's OK. Also, boot_b won't do the trick
for me.)
Thanks,
Davebo
--
David Weisberger | Q: Mr. President, do you care to say any more about the
| operational details of the airlift?
djweisbe | THE PRESIDENT: No.
@unix.amherst.edu | Q: How about explaining to the American people why it's
| an important issue for the United States to undertake?
| THE PRESIDENT: What?
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
The Libertarian Second Amendment Caucus in Fort Collins, Colorado,
submitted this as a questionnaire to the city council candidates
in the upcoming election. As expected, very few of the candidates
(3 of 13) responded, but they know we're watching.
Feel free to use any and all of these questions that strike your
fancy or use them as inspiration for your own.
*****
1. Would you be willing to state, in writing, that if you are
publicly demonstrated to have violated your oath of office
you would resign and never run for office again?
2. Under what circumstances do the rights of the group come
before the rights of the individual?
3. Would you support a city charter amendment prohibiting the
city government, its officials, agents, and employees from
initiating force against any human being for any reason?
4. Please put the following list in order of precedence (from
lowest to highest): a) city ordinance, b) city resolution,
c) state law, d) federal statute, e) U.S. Constitution,
f) state constitution.
5. Do you believe that it's appropriate for any city official or
employee to be paid more than his or her average private
sector constituent?
6. Do you believe that involuntary contributions are a legitimate
means of funding council programs?
7. Would you support a program recognizing the right of
taxpayers to "earmark" their taxes (either as "must be used"
or "must not be used") for specific programs?
8. In the event that the candidate "None of the Above" were to
win a city election, which option do you believe most
appropriate? a) The candidate with the next highest vote total
fills the office. b) A special election is held to fill the
office, with none of the previous candidates eligible to run
again. c) Let the office remain unfilled and unfunded until
the next election. d) Abolish the office.
Please return your questionnaire to: [address of your choice]
A signature and date line were added here.
Thank you for taking the time to fill out this questionnaire.
******
The questionnaires were sent with self-addressed, stamped envelopes.
P.S. One person _did_ get a perfect score on the questionnaire, and,
no, he didn't help write it.
Cathy Smith
My opinions are, of course, my own.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Bob Gajarsky - Hobokenite writes:
>jayson stark (i trhink that's him) fits perfectly in this category.
>
>anyone who writes "dean palmer has 2 homers - at this pace, he'll
> have 324 home runs!" should be shot.
Bob, I think that Stark does this sort of thing as a joke, not as a
serious prediction. I don't really see why we should shoot him for
that. The guys who ought to be shot are the ones who keep claiming
how great the Royals' chances are in the AL West, since all evidence
indicates that they aren't joking and actually believe it.
Bob Davis rbd@thor.ece.uc.edu
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
Brian Day (bday@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov) wrote:
: On December 29, 1992, it was illegal to operate a radar detector
: in the state of Virginia. If one got caught, one got fined $65.00.
: Ask me how I know.
The Federal Communications Act of 1934 made it *legal* for you to
operate a radio receiver of any kind, on any frequency (including
X, K, and Ka bands) in the United States. The Electronic
Communications Privacy Act of 1989(?) restricted the FCA of 1934
by making it illegal to receive the land-mobile telephone service,
including (I believe) cellular phones. No restriction was placed
on receiving RADAR (or, curiously, cordless phones.) Enforcement
of the Virginia law is in violation of the FCA of 1934. If you have
lots of time and money (and a lawyer, which I'm *not*,) you can
argue this in a federal court and try to have the law overturned.
I can hardly wait to see the responses to this one, but somebody
had to say it...
--
Lockheed Sanders may disagree so these are solely the opinions of:
Scott L. Babb - babb@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com
"We didn't inherit the Earth from our parents,
we are borrowing it from our children."
| 12sci.electronics |
Frank, I tried to mail this but it bounced. It is fast moving out
of t.a scope, but I didn't know if t.a was the only group of the three
that you subscribed to.
Apologies to regular t.a folks.
In article <1qjahh$mrs@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>Science ("the real world") has its basis in values, not the other way round,
>as you would wish it.
You must be using 'values' to mean something different from the way I
see it used normally.
And you are certainly using 'Science' like that if you equate it to
"the real world".
Science is the recognition of patterns in our perceptions of the Universe
and the making of qualitative and quantitative predictions concerning
those perceptions.
It has nothing to do with values as far as I can see.
Values are ... well they are what I value.
They are what I would have rather than not have - what I would experience
rather than not, and so on.
Objective values are a set of values which the proposer believes are
applicable to everyone.
>If there is no such thing as objective value, then science can not
>objectively be said to be more useful than a kick in the head.
I don't agree.
Science is useful insofar as it the predictions mentioned above are
accurate. That is insofar as what I think *will be* the effect on
my perceptions of a time lapse (with or without my input to the Universe)
versus what my perceptions actually turn out to be.
But values are about whether I like (in the loosest sense of the word) the
perceptions :-)
>Simple theories with accurate predictions could not objectively be said
>to be more useful than a set of tarot cards.
I don't see why.
'Usefulness' in science is synonomous with 'accuracy' - period.
Tarot predictions are not useful because they are not accurate - or
can't be shown to be accurate.
Science is useful because it is apparently accurate.
Values - objective or otherwise - are beside the point.
No?
tommy
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Is there a comp.graphics FAQ and if so, where?
--
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/ Academic Computing Services / VOICE: (403)220-7937
/ University of Calgary / MESSAGE: (403)220-6201
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| 1comp.graphics |
In article <JVIGNEAU.93Apr5182106@cs.ulowell.edu> jvigneau@cs.ulowell.edu (Joe Vigneau) writes:
>
>If anything, the BSA has taught me, I don't know, tolerance or something.
>Before I met this guy, I thought all gays were 'faries'. So, the BSA HAS
>taught me to be an antibigot.
I could give much the same testimonial about my experience as a scout
back in the 1960s. The issue wasn't gays, but the principles were the
same. Thanks for a well put testimonial. Stan Krieger and his kind who
think this discussion doesn't belong here and his intolerance is the
only acceptable position in scouting should take notice. The BSA has
been hijacked by the religious right, but some of the core values have
survived in spite of the leadership and some scouts and former scouts
haven't given up. Seeing a testimonial like this reminds me that
scouting is still worth fighting for.
On a cautionary note, you must realize that if your experience with this
camp leader was in the BSA you may be putting him at risk by publicizing
it. Word could leak out to the BSA gestapo.
Bill Mayne
| 0alt.atheism |
In article romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu (Ella I Baff) writes:
> >If anybody, doctors included, said to me to my face that there is no
> >evidence of the 'yeast connection', I cannot guarantee their safety.
> >For their incompetence, ripping off their lips is justified as far as
> >I am concerned.
>
>This doesn't sound like Candida Albicans to me.
No, just a little anger. Normally I don't rip people's lips off, except
when my candida has overcolonized and I become: "Fungus Man"! :^)
Jon
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Who are you? Read alt.psychology.personality! That's where the action is.
| 13sci.med |
jbrown@batman.bmd.trw.com writes:
>"Will" is "self-determination". In other words, God created conscious
>beings who have the ability to choose between moral choices independently
>of God. All "will", therefore, is "free will".
The above is probably not the most representative paragraph, but I
thought I'd hop on, anyway...
What strikes me as self-contradicting in the fable of Lucifer's
fall - which, by the way, I seem to recall to be more speculation
than based on biblical text, but my ex RCism may be showing - is
that, as Benedikt pointed out, Lucifer had perfect nature, yet he
had the free will to "choose" evil. But where did that choice come
from?
We know from Genesis that Eve was offered an opportunity to sin by a
tempter which many assume was Satan, but how did Lucifer discover,
invent, create, call the action what you will, something that God
had not given origin to?
Also, where in the Bible is there mention of Lucifer's free will?
We make a big fuss about mankind having free will, but it strikes me
as being an after-the-fact rationalisation, and in fact, like
salvation, not one that all Christians believe in identically.
At least in my mind, salvation and free will are very tightly
coupled, but then my theology was Roman Catholic...
Still, how do theologian explain Lucifer's fall? If Lucifer had
perfect nature (did man?) how could he fall? How could he execute an
act that (a) contradicted his nature and (b) in effect cause evil to
exist for the first time?
--
Lucio de Re (lucio@proxima.Alt.ZA) - tab stops at four.
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <sundaram.737186206@msuinfo> sundaram@egr.msu.edu (Divya Sundaram) writes:
>jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer) writes:
>
>[much BS deleted for brevity]
>
>>Again, my point was that not all microsofties are here to "sell"
>>readers on our products (which would conflict with the "no-ads"
>>philosophy of usenet). Nor do we necessarily have access to info
>>that others have.
>
>It certainly smacks of that! Remember the "POLL" that you quoted
>saying that you had seen a 95% of users being satisfied with DOS 6.0?
It was 93%-94%, and actually another msdos team member posted it.
Note that people not on the msdos team would not necessarily know
about that, or...
>Care to recall how unbiased the sample set was?
When I heard those numbers I wondered how they got them (having
worked in product support and knowing that the typical support caller
has very little positive to say about the product, I figured it wasn't
from there...) so I wandered over to the marketing folks and asked.
And I was told it was from a survey of registered users. And I
posted that on the net when people asked where the 93% figure came
from.
>That post sure looked like FUD....and coming from a microsoftie
>.... well, it sure seemed like something was not on level.
Hmm. I figured, if Chuck posted the numbers, why not include where
they came from? (I also find it interesting that postitive info is
"fear, uncertainty & doubt".)
>Advocacy is GOOD - but spreading FUD to advocate your favorite OS is very
>unethical - especially when you have a vested interest in the success
>of that OS.
???? I think you've got me confused with someone else. I don't
pretend that MSDOS provides what all people need, or that other
OSes (including unix & OS/2) don't provide useful and/or necessary
features. I also don't push people to use MSDOS; I even posted in
comp.os.msdos.misc that I suggest _waiting_ before installing a
new os, esp if you have trouble (support is always overloaded
during release, unless the sales are a total bomb).
>>I also get tired of people assuming that microsofties are, like,
>>members of the BORG.
>
>That is because their actions seem to invite this opinion - never seen more
>defensive people in my life.
I ain't saying some of us don't get defensive sometimes. Do you *really*
think msdos gets any more respect within microsoft than outside it?
I just mean we all aren't cut out of the same dough with the same cookie
cutter. We don't all think alike. Yeah, ChuckSt and I have some "inside"
info on MSDOS - doesn't mean that everyone else does :)
>Seriously speaking, it is a shame that MS techie employees get the heat for
>MS's actions - most of which are perpetrated by the Management and marketing.
>I am sure that they ARE very talented etc ... I have not doubts about their
>abilities, just about the ethics of their marketing practices.
-jen
--
#include <stdisclaimer> // jenk@microsoft.com // msdos testing
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Hello, I've raytraced and rendered and the only difference I've found
is that raytracing takes a hell of a lot longer. Am I missing
something?
Later,
Z.
| 1comp.graphics |
stolk@fwi.uva.nl writes:
>>
>> A problem occurs when I try to create a window with a visual that is different
>> from the visual of the parent (which uses the default visual which is TC24).
>>
You've got to set border_pixel in your window attributes. The default
is CopyFromParent which gives the BadMatch. Do this:
...
unsigned long valuemask;
...
/*
* if border_width is non-zero you'd better alloc a colour from cmap
* rather than use any old pixel value. Also, use valuemask, it makes
* the code more obvious.
*/
attr.colormap = cmap;
attr.border_pixel = 0;
valuemask = CWColormap | CWBorderPixel;
win = XCreateWindow(
dpy,
DefaultRootWindow(dpy),
10,10,
width,height,
0, /* border width. see comment below */
8, /* depth */
InputOutput, /* class */
vinfo.visual, /* visual */
valuemask,
&attr
);
A note on border_width: your code looked like this:
>> win = XCreateWindow(
>> dpy,
>> DefaultRootWindow(dpy),
>> 10,10,
>> width,height,
>> CopyFromParent, /* border width */
>> 8, /* depth */
>> InputOutput, /* class */
>> vinfo.visual, /* visual */
>> CWColormap,
>> &attr
>> );
border_width set to CopyFromParent works but doesn't make sense.
border_width should be an unsigned int. You get away with it because
CopyFromParent is #define'ed to be zero in X.h. If it happened to be
defined as -1 you'd get a very interesting looking window!
Gerard O'Driscoll (gerard.odriscoll@dps.co.uk)
Du Pont Pixel Systems Ltd.
| 5comp.windows.x |
al@escom.COM (Al Donaldson) writes:
>amolitor@nmsu.edu (Andrew Molitor) writes:
>>Yes, those evil guys in the FBI can probably, with some
>>effort, abuse the system. I got news for you, if the evil guys in
>>the FBI decide they want to persecute you, they're gonna, ...
>
>And if Richard Nixon had had this kind of toy, he wouldn't have had
>to send people into the Watergate.
>
This appears to be generic calling upon the name of the anti-christ.
Just for the hell of it, let's destroy this remark. Let us imagine that
the executive branch actually could extract keys from the escrow houses
without anyone knowing, or telling. Now what? Dick has 80 bits of data.
What the hell's he gonna do with it?
1) Trot around to the telco and say 'we'd like an unauthorised
decrypting tap'. Uh huh.
2) Break in to watergate and install his own tap (so his people still
do have to break in, neat, huh?) record some noise, then get the Executive
Branch Phone Decryption Box (huh? they've got one? Goodness, wait 'til the
washington post gets hold of this) and decrypt the noise.
3) More likely, stare at the key, and say 'Oh, hell it's not
worth all this bloody hassle'
Truth is, even granted *lots* of covert power on the part of
the Executive Branch, this system is *more* difficult to tap with than
POTS gear. The fact that it is easier to tap than some hypothetical
system neither you nor I am going to place on our phones is neither
here nor there.
The only rational concerns I am seeing raised are:
a) is the key really just chopped in half, and not some XOR
arrangement? That is, has some egregious technical error been built
in to the plan?
b) is this is the first step toward strict regulation of strong
encryption?
>But that's not really the issue. The real issue is whether this
>will be used to justify a ban against individuals' use of private
>(i.e., anything else) encryption methods.
This is b), of course. I suspect not. If the government actually
wanted to make such regs, they'd just do it. A few hundred people on Usenet
yelling about it wouldn't even slow the machine down.
Besides, who is this mysterious 'they' who's going to take away
all our rights the instant we let our guard down? Congress? That gang
of buffoons can't even balance their checkbooks. The FBI? But.. they
don't make the laws. The NSA? Ditto. The white house? Bill Clinton
is probably still looking for the bathroom. It's a big place, after all.
Andrew
>
>Al
| 11sci.crypt |
Can someone tell me the maximum horizontal and vertical refresh rates of the
NEC 5fgx.(not the 5fge)
Thanks.
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <Apr.9.01.10.38.1993.16892@athos.rutgers.edu> evensont@spot.Colorado.EDU (EVENSON THOMAS RANDALL) writes:
>Which brings me around to asking an open question. Is the Bible a closed
>book of Scripture? Is it okay for us to go around saying "God told
>me this" and "Jesus told me that"? Wouldn't that imply that God is STILL
>pouring out new revelation to us? I know that some people will feel
>that is okay, and some will not. The concept of a closed canon would
>certainly cast a shadow on contemporary prophets. On the other hand,
>an open canon seems to be indicated sometimes.
There are a lot of people running around saying "God told me this" and
"God told me that" these days. Some people really have heard God, and others
heard their glands. Mario Murrillo mentioned this in a sermon once. He
said someone told him, "The Lord gave me a song." He said that it was
the worst song he had ever heard.
"I know why he gave you that song," Murillo said, "He didn't want it anymore."
But God does still speak to His people today, and the idea is contrary to the
idea of a closed cannon. Ireneaus wrote about all the gifts of the Spirit
in the church of His day (2nd and 3rd century) and he was one of the first
to put forth a New Testament cannon, which was almost identical to the one
we have today. He believed in a closed cannon.
Many prophets prophesied prophecies which were not recorded in the Scriptures.
For example, one prophet in Kings, whose name starts with an "M" who
prophecied that the king would lose a battle. That is the only prophecy
he gave recorded in Scripture, and we no that he had given other prophecies
because the king complained before he heard the prophecy, "He never prophesies
anything good about me." Yet only one little paragraph of all of his
lifetime of prophecies are recorded in Scripture. There are numerous examples.
Barnabas was a prophet, Acts says, before he was even sent out as an
apostle. Yet his writings are not recorded in Scripture. Only two of
Agabus prophecies are mentioned in Scripture. He was already a prophet
before he gave them.
So prophecy may be genuine and from God, but that does not make it
Scripture.
>Also interesting to note is that some so called prophecies are nothing new
>but rather an inspired translation of scripture. Is it right to call
>that prophecy? Misleading? Wouldn't that be more having to do with
>knowledge?
I don't know about translations of Scripture, but I am familiar with
prophecies that give applications for Scripture. There are also
similar examples in the Bible. Several times Peter interprets prophecies
in a seemingly prophetic way, for example, "And his bishoprick let another
take" concerning Judas office.
A clearer example can be found in Matthew 24. Jesus is prophesying about
what will happen before His return and He quotes a passage out of Joel
about the sun being darkened and the moon turning to blood. So Scriptural
prophecy can be used in later prophecy.
Sometimes this sort of thing can cross over into being a word of knowledge,
but gifts of the Spirit seem to overlap. Words of knowledge and wisdom
can overlap. The word of knowledge and prophecy can overlap.
Interpretation of tounges is very similar to prophecy. Healings are often
considered miracles. So sometimes the distinction between gifts is a
bit hazy. Imho, it doesn't usually matter that much if we are able to
label a phenomenon, as long as we recognize them as the work of the
Spirit, and use them according to His leading.
Link Hudson.
| 15soc.religion.christian |
This is probably a stupid question but as I am new to the motorcycle scene
I don't really know anything about it. What is DoD?
Thanks,
Jonathan D. Fields
fields@cis.ohio-state.edu
| 8rec.motorcycles |
cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
>Your "lite" posting for the day, from rec.humor.funny:
>In article <S539.2adf@looking.on.ca>, bellas@tti.com (Pete Bellas) writes:
>>
>> There is a new Ice Cream Flavor inspired by the incident at Waco.
>>
>> It's called Mount Caramel, it's full of nuts but you can't get it out
>> of the carton.
>--
>cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company,
>OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
Even though I find this to be funny on the surface, the original poster of the
joke has tried and convicted the members of the BD to be a bunch of "nuts".
This may be a dangerous thing to do. It is my opinion that most educated
or well informed people of this country have some distrust of the government.
This should exist because as a bureaucracy, any government given enough time
will tend to exist for it self and not for the original purpose it was
created for. This distrust by the people should keep those in power in-line.
That and a properly functioning press. When a sensationalism oriented press
portrays a group of people as "nuts" or crazies, a violation of those
people's civil rights seem justified. Since we, as American's, have the
gurantee of rights as enumerated in the constitution, to include the
2nd ammendment, the government must appease the public's opinion or risk
voted out of existance, or if it has become corrupt enough to tamper with
domocratic process itself, being thrown out by force.
Our government as it stands, must appease the public. Therefore the
official press releases portray the BD's as fanatics who are a threat to
public safety. We must not prejudge people based on one sided information.
So far the only information that we are being given is comming from the very
agency that was embarrased by the BD(Branch Davidians sp?). It is to their
advantage to make the BD's as fanatical and dangerous as possible. If they
were portrayed as law-abiding citizen's, then they(ATF) had no justification
what so ever of doing what they did.
So let's keep an open mind. Jokes like above, even though it may be funny,
may mislead the public from the truth of the matter.
Just as an aside, my understanding of U.S. vs Rock Island and U.S. vs Dalton
leads me to believe that the National Firearms Act, which allows the Fed's
(in this case ATF) to regulate firearms(machine guns), has been deemed to be
unconstitutional since 1986.(By two federal district courts at least).
And since, I believe the only reason ATF was involved
in this case is because of firearms violations, it would be interesting to
find out whether or not the search warrent was based on the NFA.
It would be very embarrassing indeed if a search warrent based on a possibly
unconstitutional law has resulted in 4 deaths(Law enforcement).
****************************************************************************
The above opinions are mine and mine only.
I'm solely responsible for my opinions and my actions. If you must flame
then flame away, but a well constructed argument will be much more respected.
Young-hoon Yoon yoony@rpi.edu
211 North Hall n6zud@hibp1.ecse.rpi.edu
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute N6ZUD/2 HL9KMT(former)
Troy, NY 12180
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <930420.100544.6n0.rusnews.w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:
#frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
#> In article <930415.112838.9p4.rusnews.w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew@mantis.co.uk
#> (mathew) writes:
#> #The other is to ask you what you think is wrong with relativism, so that we
#> #can correct your misconceptions :-)
#>
#> Well I can cut to the chase and admit that what I find least attractive about
#> realtivism is that it elevates the heinous to the level of the good, by
#> saying in effect "to each his own", or "what's good for you, isn't good
#> for me". Thus the terrorist is elevated to the same level as the man
#> of peace.
#
#This is complete nonsense. Relativism means saying that there is no absolute
#standard of morality; it does NOT mean saying that all standards of morality
#are equally good.
Presumably this means that some moral systems are better than others?
How so? How do you manage this without an objective frame of reference?
And what weasel word do you use to describe that frame of reference, if
it isn't an objective reality for values?
--
Frank O'Dwyer 'I'm not hatching That'
odwyer@sse.ie from "Hens", by Evelyn Conlon
| 0alt.atheism |
My apologies. I really didn't have the time to chase down a slew of
references from 10-20 years ago when I was looking at these issues.
>The mother church of Jerusalem disappeared when the Romans took the city.
>Despite some pious legends, the evidence seems to be that the members of
>the church died fighting the Romans during what they believed to be the
>last days. We know that certain Apostles had nicknames connecting them to
>Jewish terrorist groups. For the average inhabitant of the Roman Empire
>(especially after centuries of political instability and terror), the
>Roman policies in Palestine were heartily approved of. When studied with
a
>knowledge of cult psychology, Acts is eerily familiar, especially today.
1. The mother church did disappear at the time of the Roman attack. James
the Just was judicially murdered a few years earlier, but there is
evidence that the church survived him. There is no evidence that it still
existed after the assault on the city. The individuals historically
associated with that church disappear at that time.
2. The followers of Jesus included a number of individuals whose nicknames
suggested connections with the Jewish terrorism of the time (Zealotes,
Iscariot, "Sons of Thunder").
3. For cult psychology, there's an extensive literature.
4. For an understanding of the motivation of the members of the Jerusalem
church, there is a mixed collection of sources. The Anchor Bible has some
interesting articles, but one thing I've noticed about biblical
scholarship is that intellectual honesty and a skeptical approach are
notably lacking. You basically have to spread your net wide and then
winnow. (For example, Allegro and Schoenfeld have some interesting ideas,
but they were both "over the top.") Many interesting ideas have not been
followed up, mostly due to religious reasons. What was the connection of
early Christian theology to Samaritan dualism and proto-gnosticism? (See
Stephen's speech in Acts for a Samaritan interpretation of the
crucifixion.) Schweitzer's interpretation of Jesus's motivations could be
updated, especially now that we have the Essene and Chenoboskian
materials. And so it goes. (For instance, the convincing statistical
evidence concerning the authorship of the Pauline materials has been
completely ignored by biblical scholars.)
I don't track this area much any more. (My coursework is 20 years old.) I
have a personal theory that the synoptics were written in Syria during the
course of the Jewish Revolt. I suspect Mark was written before the fall of
Jerusalem as an apology to get the Romans and Roman-sympathizers off the
back of the local Greek Christians. Matthew and Luke were written with
similar goals, but incorporating additional materials. Given the evidence
in the Gospel of Thomas (Chenoboskien), I suspect Q came from a Samaritan
(proto-gnostic) milieu. In any case, they were written in an environment
cut off by time or circumstances from Jerusalem, not expecting further
contact, and not wanting to be connected by outsiders to the themes of the
doctrines held by the Jerusalem church.
Sorry about the lack of documentation, but the time is hard to find.
--
Harry Erwin
Internet: erwin@trwacs.fp.trw.com
Have found some interesting work...
| 18talk.politics.misc |
I have two brand new Dayna Etherprint Adapters (10baset) for sale.
They convert ethertalk to localtalk. This is useful when wanting to
hook up a localtalk network printer to a ethertalk(10baset) network.
They sell for $350 each in Mac Warehouse. Will take $100 each.
Guaranteed.
email response to atg@virginia.edu
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(804)979-3235
| 6misc.forsale |
Found it! Thanks. I got several offers for help. I appreciate it and
will be contacting those people via e-mail.
Thanks again...
jennise
| 14sci.space |
Robert C Hite (philly@bach.udel.edu) wrote:
: I think most of the problems mainly arose from Manager Gene Mauch's
: ineptitude in managing the pitching staff. Down the stretch, he
: abused Jim Bunning, Chris Short, and Robin Roberts (I think those
: are the three) pitching each on only 2 days rest for quite some
: time. By the time they hit the last 2 weeks of the season,
: obviously none of these guys had an ounce left in their arm. Oh
: well.
Roberts was long gone -- he was probably an Oriole in 1964. Or maybe a
Colt .45. The 3rd starter was Art Mahaffey, the previous year's ace.
Dennis Bennett was the 4th starter.
They were indeed 6.5 up with 12 to go, but they won their final two
games after the horrid 10-loss streak. The final game victory
(Bunning's 19th win, if memory serves) kept the Reds from tying for the
title; they and the Phils were both 1 game behind the Cards, with the
Giants(?) another game back. The Mets couldn't hold an early lead
against the Cards that final Sunday, or there would have been a 3-way
tie. Too bad they couldn't have saved some of the 15 or so runs they
scored on Saturday when they crushed St. Louis.
--
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neal traven+@pitt.edu You're only young once, but you can be
traven@vms.cis.pitt.edu immature forever. -- Larry Andersen
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
FORSALE: 1980 Honda Maxima 650
15,000 miles
New tires, new battery, in excellent shape.
Asking $1300.00 obo.
I'm posting this for a friend so contact him for details. His name is
Ray Keys, and you can contact him at (803) 639-4469.
Thanks....
Barry...
--
Personal Theory: Socks are the larval form of wire coat-hangers.
Barry Johnson, Clemson University, CTS. cyclist@hubcap.clemson.edu
| 6misc.forsale |
In article <27APR199320210230@stdvax.gsfc.nasa.gov> abdkw@stdvax.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Ward) writes:
>Given that fact, and the spacecraft attitude knowledge
>of approx. 2 arcmin, we might be able to figure out how well BATSE can
>determine the location (rotational) of a Gamma Ray burster from knowledge
>of the all-sky map's accuracy. PR material for the other three instruments
>give accuracies on the order of "fractions of a degree", if that's
>any help.
But I believe that there is a fundamental difference here. The other x
three instruments are focusing instruments, that, more or less, form
an image, so positional errors are limited by craft attitude and the
resolving power of the optics. BATSE is an altogether different
beast, effectively just 8 coincidence counters, one on each corner of
the craft. Positional information is triangulated from the
differential signal arrival times at each of the detectors.
Positional error would be predominantly determined by timing errors
and errors in craft attitude. Since none of the 8 BASTE detectors have
any independant angular resolution whatsoever, they can not be used to
determine parallax. Indeed, parallax would just add a very small
component to the positional error.
Demonstrating that these puppies are beyond the oort cloud would
require resolution on the order of arcseconds, since the oort
cloud is postulated to extend to about 0.5 parsec (all together
now: "Parallax ARc SECond", a parsec is the distance of an object
that demonstrates one arc second of parallax with a 2 AU base line).
If the 3 degree accuracy reported above is true, we're going to
have to add a BASTE to the pluto fast flyby to get enough baseline.
The beauty of BASTE is that it both gives positional information and
watches the entire sky simultaneously, a realy handy combination
when you have no idea where the next burst is coming from.
-Kevin
| 14sci.space |
Hi Netters!
I'm looking at purchasing some sort of backup solution. After you read about
my situation, I'd like your opinion. Here's the scenario:
1. There are two computers in the house. One is a small 286 (40MB IDE drive).
The other is a 386DX (213 SCSI drive w/ Adaptec 1522 controller). Both
systems have PC TOOLS and will use Central Point Backup as the backup /
restore program. Both systems have 3.5" and 5.25" floppies.
2. The computers are not networked (nor will they be anytime soon).
From what I have seen so far, there appear to be at least 4 possible
solutions (I'm sure there are others I haven't thought about). For these
options, I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has tried them or sees
any flaws (drive type X won't coexist with device Y, etc.) in my thinking
(I don't know very much about these beasts):
1. Put 2.88MB floppy drives (or a combination drive) on each system.
Can someone supply cost and brand information? What's a good brand?
What do the floppies themselves cost?
2. Put an internal tape backup unit on the 386 using my SCSI adapter, and
continue to back up the 286 with floppies. Again, can someone recommend a
few manufacturers? The only brand I remember is Colorado Memories. Any
happy or unhappy users (I know about the compression controversy)?
3. Connect an external tape backup unit on the 386 using my SCSI adapter, and
(maybe?) connect it to the 286 somehow (any suggestions?)
4. Install a Floptical drive in each machine. Again, any gotcha's or
recommendations for manufacturers?
I appreciate your help. You may either post or send me e-mail. I will
summarize all responses for the net.
Thanks,
George
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| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Is there anyone out there in NetLand that has/has had one of these?
Can someone give me a non-Consumer Reports review (or point me to a source) ???
Thanks
Scott
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Computer Science Undergraduate,
University of California, Riverside
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" You say its gonna happen "now"
What exactly do you mean?
You see I've already waited too long,
And all my hope is gone "
- The Smiths
| 7rec.autos |
From article <1993Apr26.110250.5243@nmt.edu>, by erickson@azure.nmt.edu (Alan Erickson):
> I'm trying to bring in 8+ bits to a PC, and would like
> to use interrupt-driven routines. Without buying an IO
> board or making a new port, _where_ can I bring in these
> bits? LPT seems to have only a few inputs, but I've heard
> rumours that some LPTs have bidirectional lines. Anybody
> know fer sure? If any bi-d LPTs, which boards have them
> (I'll be running a new 386DX-33)?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Alan Erickson erickson@baltic.nmt.edu
>
> to all SunRayce '93 competitors: I hope you're getting
> about as much sleep as I am.....
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
I'M WATCHING ONE BEING BUILT RIGHT HERE AT UVM AND THE TEAM IS
SHAGGIN' IT THESE DAYS.
ME170PJD@UVM.EDU
| 12sci.electronics |
Please excuse the length of this post, but for personal reasons,
I must go on at some length.
In article <1r9dd7INNqfk@ctron-news.ctron.com>, king@ctron.com (John E. King) writes:
|>
|> scharle@lukasiewicz.cc.nd.edu (scharle) writes:
|>
|> > For your information, I checked the Library of Congress catalog,
|> >and they list the following books by Francis Hitching:
|>
|>
|> I believe I've just discovered an anthopological parallel. In my many
|> "discussions" with the fundies, their main tactic is to discredit
|> my sources. They shrilly bleat:
|>
|> "Barclay's claims are bogus; McKenzie's arguements are a sham,
|> Oehler position is specious, Jouon's ideas are fiction, Darby is a
|> fraud, Howard is a counterfeit, Rotherham's claims are vapid."
|>
|> Ahha...Now with the Branch Athiests zealots we have the following:
|>
|> "Hitching`s claims are bogus, Gorman argument's are a sham,
|> Jastrow's position is specious, Stanley's ideas are fiction, Durant
|> is a fraud, Thorpe is a counterfeit, Hoyle's claims are vapid."
|>
|> Are we witnessing the founding of a new major religion.... or has
|> it really been there all along?!
[...more deleted...]
Perhaps it would be instructive to see what my original post had
to say:
In article <1993Apr22.121931.2533@news.nd.edu>, scharle@lukasiewicz.cc.nd.edu (scharle) writes:
|> In article <1r4dglINNkv2@ctron-news.ctron.com>, king@ctron.com (John E. King) writes:
|> |>
|> |>
|> |> kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub) writes:
|> |>
|> |>
|> |>
|> |> > Neither I, nor Webster's has ever heard of Francis Hitchings. Who is he?
|> |> >Please do not answer with "A well known evolutionist" or some other such
|> |> >informationless phrase.
|> |>
|> |> He is a paleontologist and author of "The Neck of the Giraffe". The
|> |> quote was taken from pg. 103.
|> |>
|> |> Jack
|>
|> For your information, I checked the Library of Congress catalog,
|> and they list the following books by Francis Hitching:
|>
|> Earth Magic
|>
|> The Neck of the Giraffe, or Where Darwin Went Wrong
|>
|> Pendulum: the Psi Connection
|>
|> The World Atlas of Mysteries
[followed by my signature]
I was extremely careful in this posting not to say anything which
was not factual. I made no judgement about Hitching or the quality of
the quotation attributed to him. I have not read any of the books
listed (although I did glimpse briefly at "Earth Magic", I saw nothing
that I would care to comment on). It was solely in response to an
inquiry by Warren about Hitching, and your assertion that he is a
paleontologist. I do not know whether he is or is not a paleontologist.
I do not claim to know anything about him, except this listing of his
publications.
However, I get the decided impression that I am being included
among the "Branch Atheists" on the basis of this post. If that
impression is mistaken, please let me know. Otherwise, I should let
you know that the implications are very offensive to me, and I
would certainly appreciate a clarification of your posting.
--
Tom Scharle |scharle@irishmvs
Room G003 Computing Center |scharle@lukasiewicz.cc.nd.edu
University of Notre Dame Notre Dame, IN 46556-0539 USA
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1993Apr17.213553.2181@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>,
krueger@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (theodore r krueger) wrote:
> Isn't it funny that a white person calls comeone a "nigger" and gets banned
> for a year, but a black person calls someone a "faggot" and there is no
> consequence?
> Ted
Ted, you're missing a vital point. As Roger Lustig pointed out in a
previous response, the reason why Schott was banned from baseball was
because she had been known to call and think in a racially biased manner on
a constant basis. Such thoughts affected her hiring practices. Bonilla,
on the other hand, was found to have mentioned this one word a single time.
If he had been known to go around, criticizing homosexuals, it would be a
different story. Furthermore, he is merely an athlete. He doesn't have to
hire anyone as Schott had to do. Dave Pallone, the former NL umpire who is
an admitted homosexual, has decided to assist in a protest before a Mets
game at Shea. He, like you, thinks that Bonilla should be suspended from
baseball. Pallone is hoping for a year's suspension. In my opinion,
that's downright ludicrous. As Howie Rose on WFAN said, if you start
suspending athletes who have mentioned a derogatory word even a single time
under whatever conditions, then you'd probably have enough people remaining
to play a three-on-three game. Now, honestly, if you truly analyze the
differences between the two cases that you bring up in your article, I
would think that you'd reconsider your thoughts.
-Sean
*******************************************************************************
"Behind the bag!"
- Vin Scully
*******************************************************************************
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
Does anyone know the phone number to a place where i can get
a VGA passthrough?
I want to hook up my VGA card to my XGA card (whcih you can can).
All I need is the cable that connects them. It is the same type of
cable that you would connect from your VGA card to say a Video Blaster
or something.
Thanks.
-Brad
| 1comp.graphics |
Alison J Wyld wrote to All:
AJW> Does anyone know of an English language edition that does not show the
AJW> verse (or even chapter) numbers.
[...]
clh> [The original NEB put verse numbers only in the margin [...]
Kenneth Wuest's expanded translation of the New Testament does the same - it puts the range of verse numbers next to the top of each paragraph. Being an expanded translation it is quite verbose though - more suitable for detailed study than for quick reading.
Mike
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| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <C5JrDE.M4z@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb) writes:
>Theory of Creationism: MY theistic view of the theory of creationism, (there
>are many others) is stated in Genesis 1. In the beginning God created
>the heavens and the earth.
Wonderful, now try alittle imaginative thinking!
| 0alt.atheism |
On 5 Apr 93 23:27:26 GMT, vida@mdavcr.mda.ca (Vida Morkunas) said:
Vida> Can one develop inner-ear problems from too much flying? I hear
Vida> that pilots and steward/esses have a limit as to the maximum
Vida> number of flying hours -- what are these limits? What are the
Vida> main problems associated with too many long-haul (over 4 hours)
Vida> trips?
The crew rest requirements are to prevent undue fatigue. The cockpit
crew (pilot) limits are somewhat more stringent than the cabin crew
limits for this reason. Crew rest requirements address amount of time
on duty plus rest time. A tired crew is an accident-prone crew.
The only limits I know of for inner-ear problems are in military
aircraft, which are frequently unpressurized or less reliably
pressurized. Not being able to clear the ears renders aircrew members
DNIF (duties not involving flying) or grounded until the ears clear.
Flying can accentuate problems if ears don't clear. If you don't have
big pressure changes, you may not know that you've got a problem. But
if you zip up to 5,000 or 6,000 ft (the usual cabin altitude in an
airliner) and then back down to sea level, you may discover a problem.
Ears don't clear readily because of allergies, colds, infections, and
anatomical problems. The last won't change; the first three can.
Medication (decongestants or antihistimines, usually) can help.
Chewing gum, sucking hard candy (or a bottle for babies),
yawning--these will help all four causes.
--
Mary Shafer DoD #0362 KotFR NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA
shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov Of course I don't speak for NASA
"A MiG at your six is better than no MiG at all." Unknown US fighter pilot
| 13sci.med |
In article <tcmayC5rs6n.Lz8@netcom.com> tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May) writes:
>
>After the Waco Massacre and the Big Brother Wiretap Chip, any tactic
>is fair.
This is pernicious nonsense!
David
--
David Sternlight Great care has been taken to ensure the accuracy of
our information, errors and omissions excepted.
| 11sci.crypt |
nnget 93122.1300541
In article <C6BJyt.A1K@ssr.com>, sdb@ssr.com (Scott Ballantyne) says:
>
>In article <93111.145432ICGLN@ASUACAD.BITNET> <ICGLN@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>
>
>Moss is People Against Cancer's Director of Communications. People
>Against Cancer seems to offer pretty questionable information, not
>exactly the place a cancer patient should be advised to turn to.
And where do you advise people to turn for cancer information?
Most
>(maybe all) of the infomation in their latest catalogue concern
>treatments that have been shown to be ineffective against cancer, and
>many of the treatments are quite dangerous as well.
It seems to me you've offered a circular refutation of Moss's organization. Who
has shown the information in the latest book of PAC to be questionable? Could
it be those 'regulatory' agencies and medical industries which Moss is showing
to be operating with *major* vested interests. Whether one believes that these
vested interests are real or not, or whether or not they actually shape medical
research is a seperate argument. If one sees a possibility, however, that these
interests exist, then the 'fact' that some of the information put out by PAC
has been refuted by the medical industry doesn't hold much weight.
As for the ineffectiveness of antineoplasteons, the fact that the NIH didn't
find them effective doesn't make much sense here. Of course they didn't! I
tend to have more faith in the word of the patients who are now alive after
being told years ago that they would be dead of cancer soon. They are fighting
like hell to keep that clinic open, and they credit his treatment with their
survival. Anyone who looks at the NIH's record for investigation of 'alterna-
tive' cancer therapies will easily see that they have a strange knack for find-
ing relatively cheap and nontoxic therapies dangerous or useless.
gn
| 13sci.med |
In article <1993Apr15.152424.5899@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil.Idriss:) writes:
>
>Arab leaders don't have to cheat, they are actually allowed to have four wives.
>Are you implying above that Arab leaders are gays? Aren't there Jewish gays too?
Arab leaders are now following by Islamic rules? (Or is it only applicable
in cases like this?) :-
I remember an article of about a year ago which stated that besides his wife,
Saddam also has a mistress. Assad's brother has a wife and *several*
mistresses, and those 'emirs' in the Gulf have, within their lifetimes,
wives in the double digitas (only they manage to keep four at a time).
This is all irrelevant. It takes a *lot* more than infidelity to make these
leaders ruthless and corrupt. Maybe Netanyahu thought he could 'cleanse'
himself by making such a public confession. Does the average secular Israeli
care, though? The Mossad probably applauded him. :-)
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| 17talk.politics.mideast |
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
_____________________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release April 14, 1993
PRESS BRIEFING
BY GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS
The Briefing Room
12:40 P.M. EDT
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I guess I'm just prepared to take
questions today.
Q George, Bob Dole says that the Clinton
administration's policy on Bosnia is a failure and that he wants the
United States to take the lead in lifting the arms embargo so that
the Bosnian Muslims can defend themselves.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: As you know, President Clinton has
said that that suggestion is under active consideration. Obviously,
this is a tragic situation in Bosnia. And if the Bosnian Serbs don't
come to the negotiating table in a constructive way, we'll look
seriously at pressing for lifting the arms embargo. In the meantime,
we're going to continue to press for a tough sanctions resolution in
the U.N. We're going to continue to work on the Serbs to come to the
negotiating table. But the prospect of an arms embargo is something
the President certainly will consider if the Serbs don't come to the
table.
Q How much longer are you going to give them to come
to the table, George?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: We're working on that right now.
Q It's been a long time.
Q On February 19th, the President mentioned the value
added tax in Ohio. And when he was asked about it later by
reporters, he said -- quote -- "That is a radical change in the tax
system of the United States. It's something I think we may have to
look at in the years ahead." Questioned again about it later he
says, "It is not something that is now under consideration. If we
start considering it, I'll tell you." It wasn't a trial balloon or
anything, he said. I was just discussing the tax response to a
question. Donna Shalala, quoted in USA Today this morning -- quote -
- "Certainly we're looking at a VAT." What's gone on?
Q The same with Alice Rivlin this morning.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: The health care task force is
reviewing a number of options. They haven't made any decisions yet.
And as I have said from this podium time and time again, we're not
going to comment on decisions that haven't been made.
Q But you have also said from this podium time and
time again --
Q Wait a minute. Whoa, Nelly. Whoa.
Q that that was not under consideration.
Q Yes. Clinton says, "It is not something that is
now under consideration." Is that no longer true?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I believe the working group, as Ms.
Shalala says, has looked at this prospect, but no decisions have been
made of any kind.
Q Well, I know. But he said he'd tell us about it if
it was ever under consideration. I take it that now he is and he
didn't tell us about it or --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Did he say if it was under
consideration or if it was something to be proposed?
Q "If we start considering I'll tell you."
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: If it's something to be proposed?
Q "If we start considering it, I'll tell you."
That's a direct quote.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: The task force has looked at a
number of different options. They have not made any decisions yet.
The President has not made any decisions yet. This is -- one of the
proposals under consideration by the task force was to go out and
cast as wide a net as possible for different ideas on how to reform
the health care system. They have cast a very wide net. They have
looked at hundreds of different proposals -- probably thousands of
different proposals. But the President has not made any decisions.
Q Well, is the President aware of their consideration
of this option?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I don't know if he's been briefed
on any preliminary conclusions or anything like that from the task
force on this specific proposal of any kind. I don't know that
that's gotten to his level. He started yesterday to go through with
the task force a very wide range of decisions and I don't believe
that that's been presented to him, no.
Q Well, he's not relying on the USA Today to tell him
what his task force is considering in the way of taxes.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: No, he's going through it in a very
deliberate fashion. There are a number of decisions that have to be
made. I don't know that this proposal has reached that decision-
making point.
Q If this is still under consideration, that's a
change, at least from what we've been told by Dee Dee, I think about
three weeks ago or so. She said, that is not an option, talking
about the -- had a big argument with somebody over this, so I
remember it specifically -- and said it not once, but twice. Is that
not the case?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Again, I don't know if this has
been presented to the President as something that is being looked at
at some level in the task force.
Q It was ruled it out, though. I mean, unlike other
options that you've kept in the mix, this one specifically was ruled
out.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Again, this is something that is
being looked at, but no decision has been made of any kind. I mean,
it doesn't -- it's not necessarily material until you get to the
decision-making phase. The working groups are looking at hundreds of
different options.
Q If it was ruled out before and it's not ruled out
now, then something has changed, George. Yes, no?
Q When a guy says in February --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, the working groups are
looking at the widest possible range of options.
Q So something's changed. They weren't looking at it
before; they're looking at it now.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, I don't know if the working
groups have gotten to that point yet. They are casting a very wide
net.
Q How was it possible that you and Dee Dee were able
to sell -- definitively rule it out as an option previously and now
are saying that, in fact, it is being considered?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Again, the working groups are
looking at a wide range of options. They have not --
Q Do you deny that you and Dee Dee ruled it -- flatly
ruled it out on several occasions in the past month?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I don't deny that -- I mean, those
are the President's words. Those are very clear.
Q Subsequent to the President's words, do you deny
that within the last month you and Dee Dee have both publicly ruled
it out?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I don't know about the timing. I
think what we did was refer back to the President's words and say
they stand.
Q So don't they stand any longer?
Q March 25th, Clinton said for the next four to five
years it was ruled out.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, those words -- the President
did say that in February. The working groups are on a separate
track, and as I said, I don't believe --
Q Separate from the President?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I don't believe this has been
presented to the President.
Q Are they considering something that the President
--
Q Has ruled out?
Q has ruled out? I mean, will the President
consider a VAT tax?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Again, the working groups have not
presented this to the President. They have looked at a wide range of
options. I suppose that if an argument is made, he will clearly
listen to it. That does not mean he has decided to do it.
Q Can we put this another way? In his answer in
Ohio, he looked at the VAT in terms of restructuring the whole tax
system. Under those -- that was the circumstance that he said it
might be considered at some future point. Is that no longer the
case, or is that the only way that he can see a VAT emerging?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I guess I'm not sure exactly what
you're asking.
Q He talked about the VAT in the context of a
restructured tax system, not as a specific way to finance health
care, for example.
Q Or anything else.
Q Or anything else.
Q It was always in the context of substituting for
other taxes at a time of a dramatic overhaul of the whole tax system.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Right.
Q Has that change, too?
Q Is that still his view?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I haven't spoken about those
specific comments. I think -- I can just go back to it -- are the
working groups -- have they examined the possibility of a VAT? Yes,
they have.
Q Certainly we're looking at a VAT, she said.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: They have examined the possibility
of a VAT. Has it been presented to the President? Has he made a
decision? No, he has not.
Q What kind of a deal do you have when you've got the
President's appointed task force, obviously not oblivious to his
ruling something out except in the context of some huge down the line
reform, goes ahead on its own and considers a tax which he has
specifically ruled out in any context other than much later, and then
goes ahead and announces that that's what they're looking at? Is the
President concerned about that sort of thing?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I think that the President's
concern is to make sure he gets the best health care proposal
possible. He's concerned with making sure that they have the most
thorough process for examining all the possible alternatives, all the
different alternatives. If a decision is made to go forward with
something like that it's certainly something the President will
explain and justify. But no decision has been made along those
lines.
Q What does it mean exactly, though, when the
President rules something out? Does it mean it can get back on the
table later if a more persuasive argument is made?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: That's just -- that's indisputably
true. If you -- but, at the same time, he has not ruled it in. He
has not made a proposal.
Q What makes him open to it now when he wasn't open
to it before?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: He's certainly willing to listen to
the argument.
Q Was he willing to listen to the argument for a
short-term tax this year, and he wasn't willing to listen to it in
Chilicothe? He's now open to it --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: The context of his comments was
that it was not something -- he wanted to be clear that this is not
something he was proposing, not something he was floating.
Q Not something he was considering. Those are his
words -- "It's not something that's now under consideration. If we
start considering it, I'll tell you." You're now acknowledging, are
you not, that it is under consideration and --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I'm acknowledging that the task
force has studied this proposal. I am also stating that the
President has not made a decision on it.
Q But the door is open for the President to
reconsider including this as part of --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Obviously, the working groups are
looking at it. Again, but the President has not made a decision.
Q Do you know if they will make a presentation on
behalf of the VAT to him?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I don't know that. I assume that
if -- I don't know what stage they are it in proposing. I don't know
that they're going to make the conclusion that this is something they
should present to him. I know this is something the working groups
are looking at.
Q Do you understand, George, that none of us are
asking these questions in context of a decision that the President
has made, only about what the President is considering?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I understand that, and I am
acknowledging that the working groups have examined the issue of a
VAT.
Q And the President will consider it?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I assume that he will consider the
argument if it is presented to him.
Q Does that mean the President -- that working groups
think that when the President says no, he means maybe? (Laughter.)
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I think that means that the working
groups are trying to do the most thorough job possible.
Q George, can I ask you another question about
Bosnia?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Sure. (Laughter.)
Q No, he wants us to stay on this.
Q Let's do gays in the military. (Laughter.)
Q No, he got out of that swamp.
Q I think we've gotten the bottom line on that VAT.
Reggie Bartholomew, your Special Ambassador in Belgrade, today said
that if the Serbs do not accept the agreement that has been worked
out -- quote -- "We will do our part to pursue the lifting of the
arms embargo together with our allies." That seems to go a bit
further than what you've just said --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Sounds almost exactly what I just
said.
Q Well, do you accept -- in other words, you accept
what Reggie --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, the President has said that
this is something that's under consideration. It is something he
will consider if the current actions don't bring the Serbs to the
table.
Q Isn't there some kind of timetable here?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Yes, there is a timetable. There's
going to be a vote on the U.N. resolution in about 10 days.
Q That's on sanctions, that's on tightening the
sanctions.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: That's right, that's sanctions.
And we believe that that will ratchet up the pressure, and we hope
that that will bring the Serbs to the table. As you know, Mr.
Bartholomew also met with Mr. Churkin of Russia, and they are also
working on ways to bring the Serbs to the table. We will continue to
pressure them in many different ways and this is one possible option
as well.
Q The question is whether there's a timetable for
consideration or a vote on a decision on lifting the arms embargo,
not the sanctions.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: The next vote in the U.N. is on
sanctions. As far as I know, there are no votes scheduled on lifting
the arms embargo. But it is something that we have discussed both
internally and with our allies.
Q Why did Reggie Bartholomew tell the Serbs that the
U.S. would do that? What was the point of his telling them that?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, clearly, I mean, this is
something that's under consideration, and this is something that we
take quite seriously if they do not come to the table. They should
know the consequences of failing to come to the table.
Q Have they been given a deadline?
Q Warren Christopher has been saying the same thing
and it hasn't seemed to change the Serbs' behavior in the least. Why
should the Serbs take any heed of a threat to lift the arms embargo
when so far everything that's been done has had no effect on the
fighting in Bosnia?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I just don't accept the premise of
your question. It has had an effect; the embargo is having an
effect.
Q What effect?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: If the Serbians choose not to heed
our warnings, then they will face the consequences.
Q What effect has it had in Bosnia?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, the effect that it has had on
the Serbians, it has tightened up -- they are not getting their
shipments through. We can brief more fully --
Q In Bosnia, George. In Bosnia what effect has it
had?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, it's hard to say if it's
stopped the aggression to date. That is why we're continuing to
press for the Serbians to stop. But we believe that over time we
will continue to weaken the Serbs and that will have an effect.
I'm not saying it's going to happen overnight; it clearly hasn't
happened overnight. But we believe that over time the sanctions can
weaken the Serbs. If it fails to work and if the Serbs fail to come
to the negotiating table, we'll move forward with the embargo.
Q Isn't there a working deadline, George, of the 24th
-- the same date as the U.N. -- the scheduled U.N. vote? Hasn't the
United States said, along with many of the other NATO allies, that if
the Serbs aren't willing to sign on to the peace accord by then, that
we'll seek -- haven't we said that we will seek --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: We've said continually we're going
to --
Q But on that deadline?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I don't have a specific date, but
we're going to move forward with the resolution, the U.N. resolution,
by around that time. And if that fails to take effect, if that fails
to bring the Serbs to the table, we will clearly consider other
actions.
Q Isn't this awfully incremental?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: We're taking a step-by-step
approach. We're ratcheting up the pressure and we're going to
continue to do that.
Q Is there a possibility, George, that by the time
all these incremental steps are taken the Serbs will have achieved
their goals and then what's the purpose?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I think the purpose is to get the
Serbs to stop the aggression. We are pursuing that goal on many
different fronts. We are pursuing it through the U.N.; we're
pursuing it through direct talks; we are pursuing it through
tightening the sanctions. And we will consider lifting the arms
embargo. We are turning the screws up on the Serbs and we will
continue to do that.
Q But if the efforts have been unsuccessful in
getting the Serbs to stop the aggression how effective will any
campaign be to have the Serbs give back what they've gained? I mean,
once they're entrenched --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I can't speculate on that. We're
going to continue to press for them to come to the table now. We're
going to continue to find ways to stop the aggression. But I can't
see into the future.
Q George, on the stimulus package, House Republicans
say they're going to hold a series of town meetings on Saturday to
try and explain the details of your package. They cite polls which
show that the more people learn about it, the less they like it.
What's your strategy to counter that?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: The strategy we have is the one
we're going to continue. As you saw, the President today pointed up
the very real benefits of the summer jobs program that this package
will provide: 700,000 new summer jobs this summer for kids in inner
cities and suburbs to do productive work. We are also going to point
out the benefits of the highway money, the investments in highways.
We're going to point up the benefits of immunization. We're going to
point up the benefits of Head Start. We are going to say that the
Republicans have a choice: they can take action to create jobs or
they can perpetuate the gridlock of the last four years.
Q Does it concern you, though, that the House now,
the House Republicans are after you as well as the Senate?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: The House Republicans voted against
it before. They made a mistake then; they're making a mistake now.
Q George, does it strike anybody in the
administration that it's a bit strong to describe, as the President
did this morning, the summer jobs program as -- quote -- "a
reaffirmation of a promise of America"?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Not at all. I think it's the
promise of America to give kids a chance to reach their full
potential.
Q Government-funded jobs?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: To give people a chance to work?
Absolutely. That is the promise of America.
Q I want to follow up on something I asked yesterday
-- where does 700,000 summer jobs, where does that figure come from?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: That is on top of. I did look at
it. There are currently 600,000 summer jobs in the pipeline. This
will be on top of the 600,000, so it will be a total of 1.3 million.
Q The 700,000 would be created by the stimulus
package?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Yes.
Q Where does that number come from? Because we've
been told all along that the stimulus package would create 500,000
new jobs. And according to Panetta, that breaks down to something
like 200,000 full-time jobs and 150,000 summer jobs.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Yes, but the summer -- that's when
you do their full-time equivalence. I mean, 700,000 individuals will
receive jobs this summer. When you calculate it for the full-time
job effect, you have to do -- I don't know what the exact formula is.
Q Seven hundred thousand part-time jobs --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: -- 150,000 or --
Q One to four because it's three months.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Thank you.
Q Can I follow up on that? Did the President
misspeak this morning when he said that some of the government money
for these summer jobs will pay for private -- for kids to work in the
private sector?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Not necessarily. I mean, I think
that there will be grants available. That's one of the ways that you
pay for the jobs. At the same time, he's also issued a challenge to
the private sector to hire kids on their own as well.
Q Tax dollars, for instance, would pay for kids to
work at Time-Warner?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I think the Time-Warner is actually
somebody coming forward and actually doing a grant. That's going to
be the bulk of it. There could be isolated instances, though, where
there would be grants to businesses.
Q Has the President spoken with any Senate
Republicans this week?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:
No, but there's been a lot of contact with Senate Republicans in the
White House.
Q At a lower level. But the President hasn't?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: The President has not, no.
Q Getting any closer to get the votes?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: We're continuing to work on it.
Q Anybody leaning your way?
Q On Haiti, The New York Times seems to be reporting
something of a breakthrough in Aristide's attitude towards the coup
leaders. Can you confirm that there has been this change, and what
impact will it have on the process? And what did Pezzullo have to
say yesterday in his report?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Pezzullo did brief the principals.
I can't confirm what's actually happening in the talks. I would
leave that to the negotiators themselves. But Mr. Caputo has
returned to Haiti. We have received a briefing here at the White
House from Ambassador Pezzullo. And as we have said time and time
again, we believe that assurances of security are important to a
final resolution to a broader political settlement.
Q George, yesterday you offered some selective
breakdowns of how the stimulus would impact some states and cities.
Can we get a complete breakdown by state of how these jobs would be
impacted?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I think we have it for most states,
yes. And I think we can get it out.
Q Could you make that generally available?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I believe we can.
Q And could you do it by the component of the
stimulus? In other words --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I don't know if we can do -- I know
that we can do it by summer jobs and other jobs. I don't know how
deeply it can be broken down. But clearly, we can break it down into
summer jobs and other jobs.
Q And can I follow up? Is this the information that
Jeff Eller and the rest of the White House is using in the ads in the
states?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I don't know if they're ads, but
they're press releases.
Q Can you describe what those press releases contain?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: All we're doing is pointing out the
benefits of this package to various states. For instance, I know
that today Senator Dole is heading up to Vermont and New Hampshire.
And I would point out that the stimulus package, the jobs package
creates 1,000 jobs in Vermont. It creates 2,000 jobs in New
Hampshire. And the people of those states should remind him that
this is important.
Q Where are the releases going?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: They go to the states.
Q To whom?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: We can get them. It's no problem.
Q Can we get it?
Q Why don't you put them out here as well?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I think we can.
Q This afternoon? Would that be possible?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I'll have to check. I don't know.
But as soon as we can.
Q Are you focusing these press releases on states
where there are moderate or pragmatic Republican senators?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I think we're trying to get as many
as we can. It's actually quite difficult to pull this together and
we're doing our best. We're putting them out as we get them.
Q Why are you so closely tracking Senator Dole's
schedule?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I was just following it.
Q Are press releases going along to states where he's
visiting?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I'm not sure. I think that
probably there are press releases going to Vermont. (Laughter.)
Q Will there be a man in a chicken suit waiting?
(Laughter.)
Q George, as the President goes about the business of
defending what's in his stimulus package, he doesn't address what
seems to be the Republicans' main point, that you're funding it with
deficit spending rather than "if it's so important, why not come up
with the funding for it" seems to be the Republican argument. And
how do you answer that?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: What was answer is, we are paying
for it over time. And if you look at our budget, we pay for this
package over time. We believe right now the economy needs a jump-
start for jobs.
Q You're not claiming, are you, that that doesn't add
to the deficit this year?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I'm saying we're paying for it over
time. I didn't say that.
Q I know that, George. But I mean, from the
beginning, the question -- we do have annual budgets and things --
deficit spending will pay for that this year, will it not?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: This year they clearly will. But
over time our budget fully pays for this program.
Q What you're saying is that there are savings that
would cover this if it were this year in future years?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Absolutely. That's exactly what I
said.
Q I know that, but there is going to be outstanding
debt, it will add to the national debt from this year --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: No, we're reducing the deficit by
$500 billion -- $514 billion over the next four years.
Q You mean you're reducing it below what it would
have been?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Exactly.
Q In fact, you're adding a very large amount to the
national debt over the period of --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: But we're reducing it far more from
what it would have been. That's true.
Q Washington-type reduction. (Laughter.)
Q You're getting to be a grumpy old man.
Q George, has any decision been made about the White
House or the President's participation in the gay rights march coming
up in a week and a half?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: We're working on the President's
schedule now. I believe he's going to be at the Senate Democratic
retreat in Jamestown that weekend.
Q Will he address it by phone?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I don't know about that. It's a
little far out, but I believe he's going to be in the Senate retreat.
Q So will he have the leaders in a day or two before
the speech?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I don't know. I would expect that
at some point he would meet with the leaders of some of these groups.
I don't know the schedule on it, though.
Q Will there be an AIDS czar appointed prior to or in
conjunction with the event?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I'm just not sure.
Q April 22nd is Earth Day. What is the President
going to do to mark that, and is it the case that he is going to sign
the biodiversity treaty that day?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I know there's been some work on
the biodiversity treaty. I don't know about signing it that day, but
I would expect he'll have a statement on Earth Day or right around
then.
Q Where is the work on the biodiversity treaty?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I'd have to check with Katie
McGinty. I just know that there's been some work done, but I don't
know exactly what.
Q When is Earth Day?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: The 22nd, I think.
Q Why is it you know that he is going to have a
statement on Earth Day but you don't know if he's going to have a
statement on the gay rights march?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I said I don't know if he's going
to meet or when he's going to meet.
Q Do you have a statement on the gay rights march?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I don't, actually, no. I wouldn't
be surprised if he did, though.
Q Do you have some details on the Miyazawa visit?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: It's a working visit on Friday and
the President is looking forward to that in discussing a number of
issues including Russian aid and the Japanese stimulus package and
the trade issues between the two countries.
Q There was some expectations that a second aid
package to Russia was going to be unveiled at the G-7 meeting and, if
I understand, it hasn't happened. Why is that or what's the status
on that?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: The G-7 meeting is still going on
and, as you know, Secretaries Bentsen and Christopher have talked
about the outlines of a possible package. But we're going to
continue to consult with Congress and our G-7 allies on that.
Q? We will not then make any kind of announcement
during the two-day meeting?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: The meeting's not over yet.
Q Is that when you're going to make one?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I'm not ruling out the possibility.
Q the President's going to announce it tomorrow.
Q Bentsen said that.
Q Yes, Bentsen said it would be tomorrow.
Q So did Christopher.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I'd have to look at that, but I
believe it is more likely that the announcement will come out of
Tokyo.
Q George, has there been further consideration here
about going to -- sending the President out to Los Angeles?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I don't know that there's -- it's
not something we've ruled out. We don't have a date set for it.
Q George, you all have a position or do you support
Immigration's plan to settle 4,000 Iraqi prisoners in the United
States?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: It's the first I've heard of it.
Q George, there was a report today about the --
Q Fortunately. (Laughter.)
Q about the pace of appointments and says that
President Clinton is behind President Bush in the number of positions
that people have been nominated for. Are you going to speed up the
pace of nominations or where do you stand with it?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: We filled 814 of the President's
appointments. And it's broken down -- we have 384 Schedule C; 147
noncareer SES; 213 PAS full-time. I'm not sure what that means --
(laughter) -- 70 PA full-time. And this is about the same -- it's
about the same pace of President Bush. Obviously, as you move along
farther, once you -- each level of appointment actually has a
multiplier effect and frees up far more appointments. So we expect
the process to speed up. But we're at the pace of Bush. Obviously
we'd like to get these done as quickly as possible.
I would point out that the FBI background checks and the
background check is far more comprehensive and it takes more time
than our predecessors, and that is part of the holdup. But we're
working on it.
Q Is that because of Nannygate?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I think that's an awful big part of
it, yes.
Q In the story this morning, you were at
approximately the same pace as Bush in making appointments, but way
behind in winning confirmations.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: That's where the background checks
comes into play. That's the problem.
Q That's the background checks problem? Because I
mean, you have a Democratic Senate --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: No, that's not the -- you make the
appointments, and then it takes quite a bit of time to fill out all
the forms and have the background checks done. That's exactly where
the problem is.
Q What's the President doing this afternoon, and
what's on the plan for tomorrow?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: He's got some meetings -- just
office meetings this afternoon for the most part, on a variety of
issues that -- probably a half-dozen different issues. And then
he'll be -- tomorrow we'll have an event, probably again focused on
the stimulus and jobs package out of here at the White House. And
Friday is the Miyazawa meeting.
Q Will you be releasing his tax return tomorrow,
George?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Either tomorrow or Friday.
Q Is there going to be a pre-briefing regarding the
Japanese Prime Minister's visit tomorrow?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I don't know about tomorrow, but
we'll probably get something done, as we usually do, for these
visits.
Q Was Reverend Jackson here this morning and do you
know what that was about?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: He was here. He met with a group
of us here at the White House, including Mack McLarty.
Q Who?
Q Reverend Jackson.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Reverend Jackson. Mack McLarty,
me, Gene Sperling, Bruce Reed, Jeff Watson, Mark Gearan.
Q Talking about Haiti?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: We talked about general urban
policy. He is about to go to Los Angeles. He was just back from
Mississippi, where we had a good victory last night; and he's going
on to Los Angeles.
Q Did he request the meeting?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Actually, no. He's in continual
contact with the President. He had written a letter on a variety of
issues, and so we asked him to come in and talk about it.
Q George, Dole is having a fundraiser for Jeffords
tonight in Vermont. Have you guys been in contact with Jeffords at
all on this?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I think there's been some contact,
sure.
Q Can you tell us about the contacts?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I'm not sure --
Q Do you know who contacted him or what was said?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I know that Howard Paster talked to
him and they just has a general talk about the package.
Q And did he express his support for it now, or is he
--
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I can't divulge the details of the
conversation, but there have been conversations.
Q The L.A. Times is reporting that abortion --
elective abortions is likely to be included in the basic health care
package. Is this something the President is considering?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Again --
Q Along with the VAT? (Laughter.)
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: It's certainly something that's
been looked at, but no decisions have been made.
Q What was the question?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: The L.A. Times story on whether
abortions will be covered by the President's health plan.
Q Did the President in his meeting -- did you in your
meeting with Reverend Jackson ask his advice, solicit his advice
about what kind of stance the White House should take in the wake of
the verdict in L.A.?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, we certainly talked about the
situation in Los Angeles and the long-term prospects for economic
development and other issues.
Q For instance, did you discuss whether it would be
helpful for the President to go there or not?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, we discussed a wide range of
issues related to Los Angeles. That was certainly one of them.
Q Letting you perhaps go out on the way you came in,
I need to go back to Bosnia just for a second and ask --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Oh, good.
Q your reaction to Margaret Thatcher's comments
that you're just sitting by and watching a massacre.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, we've been pushing very hard
on a number of fronts for more aggressive action. We will continue
to do that.
Q Can you tell us if you've made any progress in your
talks on the stimulus package getting a compromise? I mean, we don't
have any feel except talks are ongoing. Have you talked to like 20
people or --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I don't know the numbers. We've
talked to several people and we've had wide-ranging sessions.
Q Anyone leaning your way?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I can't get into that. We're just
going to keep working through Tuesday.
THE PRESS: Thank you.
END 1:10 P.M. EDT
#56-04/14
| 18talk.politics.misc |
With all the talk about this Clipper chip, I have developed one question...
HOW DOES IT WORK???
If you use this, then how does it get decrypted on the other end? Does the
other party (receiving the phone call/mail/etc) have to know some code to
undo it? Do I use a different method for calling one party than I would for
another?. If the other party can decrypt it, doesn't that mean that someone
else could also? I assume that if everyone has a different key, the only use
would be storing secure data for later retrieval by the same key. This seems
like a fundamental question to me, but I have very little experience with
cryptosystems, other than DES. If someone could give me an explanation as
to how it would be used (remember that I have had little experience with
this sort of thing) it would be very much appreciated.
Justin York
jyork@iastate.edu
| 11sci.crypt |
Ed McCreary (edm@twisto.compaq.com) wrote:
: >>>>> On 16 Apr 93 05:10:18 GMT, bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine) said:
: RB> In article <ofnWyG600WB699voA=@andrew.cmu.edu> pl1u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Patrick C Leger) writes:
: >EVER HEAR OF
: >BAPTISM AT BIRTH? If that isn't preying on the young, I don't know what
: >is...
: >
: RB>
: RB> No, that's praying on the young. Preying on the young comes
: RB> later, when the bright eyed little altar boy finds out what the
: RB> priest really wears under that chasible.
Does this statement further the atheist cause in some way, surely it's
not intended as wit ...
Bill
| 0alt.atheism |
A friend of mine is in the market for a 486 system
Should have: 8 M of RAM
170+ M HD
SVGA Monitor and Card
5 1/4 & 3 1/2 FD"s
200+W PS
If you have one for sale then email me and I will forward to him.
Thanks,
-Jonathan
johnw@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu
| 6misc.forsale |
I've seen people in their forties and fifties become disoriented and
demented during hospital stays. In the examples I've seen, drugs were
definitely involved.
My own father turned into a vegetable for a short time while in the
hospital. He was fifty-three at the time, and he was on 21 separate
medications. The family protested, but the doctors were adamant, telling
us that none of the drugs interact. They even took the attitude that, if
he was disoriented, they should put him on something else as well! With
the help of an MD friend of the family, we had all his medication
discontinued. He had a seizure that night, and was put back on one drug.
Two days later, he was his old self again. I guess there aren't many
medical texts that address the subject of 21-way interactions.
I don't mean this as a cheap shot at the medical profession. It is an
aspect of hospitals that is very frightening to me. Docs seem to believe
that, because they have close control of you, it's quite all right to
take your bodily equilibria into their own hands. That control reduces
the chance that the patient will make a mistake, but health care
providers can make mistakes too, and mistakes can be deadly under those
circumstances.
I grant you that sometimes there's no choice. Nevertheless, I suggest
you procure a list of the drugs your grandmother is getting, and discuss
it with an independent doc. Her problems may not be the effect of HALDOL
at all. HALDOL may have been used validly, or it may have been
prescribed because OTHER medication confused her, and because the
hospital normally prescribes HALDOL for the confused elderly.
Just my opinion,
-Larry (obviously not a doc) C.
| 13sci.med |
hello there
ican anyone who has handson experience on riding the Yamaha v-max, pls kindly
comment on its handling .
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Kenneth Ng (ken@sugra.uucp) wrote:
: In article <1993Apr12.114727.7059@walter.cray.com: huot@cray.com (Tom Huot) writes:
: :Peter Clark (pclark@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu) wrote:
: :: Interesting. You seem to be the only person I have ever heard of who
: :: has had a problem with MAG like that. I have a MAG MX15F myself, no
: :: problems. I liked it so much I showed it to a bunch of my friends: 6 of
: :: them went out and bought them, no problems. All Gateway 2000 Crystal
: :: Scan monitors are MAG Innovisions. I've not heard many Gateway people
: :: griping about their monitors. Seems like you got the bad apple.
I wrote:
: :You haven't heard Gateway customers griping about their monitors?
: :Where have you been? I have never seen as many complaints on the
: :net about anything else above the famous GW CS monitor flamefest.
: The bulk of the GW CS monitor complaints (to which I can add my complaint)
: is for the older monitor that really comes from Tatung. After getting mine
: repaired by Tatung a year ago, it is starting to flake out again. I'll be
: looking into NEC3DS and MAG 15F for my next monitors.
Does anyone know when they stopped using those Tatung monitors? I
bought my system in Feb. '91 and it definitely had the Mag monitor.
That one, and it's replacement failed within 16 months. I gave up
and went to a CompuAdd store and bought a 15" monitor there. I have
no idea who makes those. No problems in about a year so far. (Knock
of Wood!)
So, does anyone know who makes the CompuAdd 15" flat screen monitor?
--
_____________________________________________________________________________
Tom Huot
huot@cray.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Gateway service has confirmed my suspicion, echoed by a couple of people
who responded to the original request for help. The ATI VLB video board
uses the addresses for COM 4. They could suggest no work around.
I will be returning the DF IO card they supplied for COM 4 (even though it
could not possibly work) for credit against a bus mouse. This will free
up the COM port I need - too bad the original salesman who suggested either
the DF IO card or the bus mouse would solve my need for a port didn't know
enough about the hardware.
Otherwise I must say that the 486DX2/66 system has worked very well - no
problems with any other hardware or software.
John Siegel
k4bnc@cbnewsh.att.com
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <1993Apr19.132847.23755@hemlock.cray.com> rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson) writes:
>Authorities are saying that Branch Davidian members were
>seen starting the fire. It looks like there will no
>witnesses to dispute that claim.
The FBI says that some of the survivors claim to have seen the leaders
of the cult talking about setting a fire, and to have smelt kerosene.
I assume this will come out at any trial that occurs as a result
of these events.
Ed
ed@wente.llnl.gov
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Desiree_Bradley@mindlink.bc.ca (Desiree Bradley) writes:
>And, from my meagre knowledge of the Bible, it seems that Christians have
>been hard on the Jews of Christ's day for being cautious about accepting
>somebody that their religious authorities didn't accept as the Messiah.
This is a good point. Christ was hardly the only person who claimed to be
the Messiah--in fact, a number of "Messiahs" were active in the area from the
time of the Roman conquest to after the fall of Masada.
Many of the statements made by the apostles--especially their repeated
attempts to give Jesus a sword (give him military power) point to the fact that
they didn't realize the true nature of his reign until after the fact. Many of
the statements in the Bible can be seen as being oriented toward explaining
this new definition of "Messiah" to the Jews who were being preached to.
Alan Terlep "...and the scorpion says, 'it's
Oakland University, Rochester, MI in my nature.'"
atterlep@vela.acs.oakland.edu
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <adrian.735624685@tasman> adrian@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Adrian Lewis) writes:
> Just a quick question. What standard lab solvents can be used to
>clean electronic equipment and components safely (ie not corrode, dissolve,
>short-out, etc the equipment)?
> water? :-)
> methanol?
> CCl4?
You don't say what kind of "electronic equipment" you mean. It's hard
to give a generic answer. There is essentially no solvent that won't
do things like washing lubricant out of switches.
When we've needed to do an emergency cleaning job on things, we've just
used distilled water. The key thing to remember is to make sure the gear
is *completely* dry before powering it up again. We let it dry for
several days to be damn sure.
I doubt that methanol has significant advantages over water. I would
be very wary of CCl4, not least because it is dangerous to *you* even
if it's not going to harm the equipment -- not only is it poisonous,
but I believe it's now known to be carcinogenic.
--
SVR4 resembles a high-speed collision | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
between SVR3 and SunOS. - Dick Dunn | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
| 12sci.electronics |
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